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Title: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Dirt Roads on July 18, 2024, 05:19:03 PM
Today marks the opening of the Scott Miller Hill Bypass on US-33, a 4.3-mile realignment which is mostly in western Roane County, West Virginia.  This project was first planned about 40 years ago, and WVDOH has called this project a "bypass" for at least 30 years.  But the route bypasses no villages or other populated areas. 

I am not familiar with any other named "bypasses" that do not bypass a town (typically to avoid reduced speed limits).  In the eastern part of West Virginia (as in much of the Northeast), the term "Cutoff" is generally used.  In some parts of North Carolina, the term "Shortcut" is also used.  Looking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 18, 2024, 05:22:01 PM
Back when Otis Bowen was governor of Indiana, he pushed through a US 6 bypass of Bremen, a town of under 5,000 with all of two stoplights. I was an 8 year old living on US 6 in town when it became IN 106, thus my avatar.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: TheStranger on July 18, 2024, 07:45:22 PM
The East Nicolaus, CA bypass along Route 70 in Sutter County (opened in the early 2010s) was designed mostly to avoid one intersection with a stop sign, though the area was developed enough that simply building on top of the old alignment would have been challenging:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9088043,-121.5486505,15.92z?entry=ttu
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: 1995hoo on July 18, 2024, 08:19:43 PM
US-70 Bypass near Selma, North Carolina, comes to mind because it's not a bypass of the designated business route and rather serves as a bypass of an interchange.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: roadman65 on July 18, 2024, 08:25:39 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 18, 2024, 08:19:43 PMUS-70 Bypass near Selma, North Carolina, comes to mind because it's not a bypass of the designated business route and rather serves as a bypass of an interchange.

When I-42 gets completed I'm sure the bypass shields will go.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Rothman on July 18, 2024, 08:48:23 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 18, 2024, 08:19:43 PMUS-70 Bypass near Selma, North Carolina, comes to mind because it's not a bypass of the designated business route and rather serves as a bypass of an interchange.

Nope.  There's a traffic light there and a good Cook Out location at that intersection.  Speaking from experience.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: hbelkins on July 19, 2024, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 18, 2024, 05:19:03 PMLooking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important.

The Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265/KY 841/IN 265).
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: bwana39 on July 19, 2024, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 19, 2024, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 18, 2024, 05:19:03 PMLooking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important.

The Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265/KY 841/IN 265).

This is not a bypass. It is a loop. In the best of cases, these outer loops might make transition from one inbound freeway to a different outbound freeway shorter / more convenient, but all in all, they have more local utility than use for through traffic.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: PColumbus73 on July 19, 2024, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 18, 2024, 08:48:23 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 18, 2024, 08:19:43 PMUS-70 Bypass near Selma, North Carolina, comes to mind because it's not a bypass of the designated business route and rather serves as a bypass of an interchange.

Nope.  There's a traffic light there and a good Cook Out location at that intersection.  Speaking from experience.

US 70 Bypass bypasses the Cook Out to the south, mainline US 70 goes through the traffic light.
 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cook+Out/@35.5195986,-78.3050838,3752m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89ac12ab4bd176bd:0x419cdc2be9d75da9!8m2!3d35.5221008!4d-78.2926742!16s%2Fg%2F11x9l4jdy?entry=ttu
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Rothman on July 19, 2024, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on July 19, 2024, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 18, 2024, 08:48:23 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 18, 2024, 08:19:43 PMUS-70 Bypass near Selma, North Carolina, comes to mind because it's not a bypass of the designated business route and rather serves as a bypass of an interchange.

Nope.  There's a traffic light there and a good Cook Out location at that intersection.  Speaking from experience.

US 70 Bypass bypasses the Cook Out to the south, mainline US 70 goes through the traffic light.
 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cook+Out/@35.5195986,-78.3050838,3752m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89ac12ab4bd176bd:0x419cdc2be9d75da9!8m2!3d35.5221008!4d-78.2926742!16s%2Fg%2F11x9l4jdy?entry=ttu

Thanks for the echo.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2024, 01:32:38 PM
I personally don't consider a Cook Out to be something "special," but I guess if you really like their food....
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Rothman on July 19, 2024, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2024, 01:32:38 PMI personally don't consider a Cook Out to be something "special," but I guess if you really like their food....

Heh.  Fair enough.  Point is that the bypass does serve a purpose.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2024, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2024, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2024, 01:32:38 PMI personally don't consider a Cook Out to be something "special," but I guess if you really like their food....

Heh.  Fair enough.  Point is that the bypass does serve a purpose.

Yeah, I know why it's there. The cigar outlet is at that interchange as well. Back in the early 1990s there was a Nathan's a few doors down from the cigar outlet (by far the furthest-south Nathan's I ever remember encountering).

I was more focused on the final sentence in the original post: "Looking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts[,] and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important." I viewed it mainly as the bypass serving to let people avoid a few traffic lights and businesses and so I didn't view it as anything all that "important," even though it's certainly "useful" for thru traffic.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: TheStranger on July 19, 2024, 03:33:26 PM
I-215 and Old 215 (originally old US 395/TEMP I-15E) near Alessandro Boulevard in Moreno Valley.

The 215 realignment to the west (opened ca. 1994) seems to have been created for a railroad track in the area...that is no longer in use and has been removed, in favor of warehouses built since the newer freeway opened.  Historicaerials shows the area around the old alignment being semi-rural in the 1980s.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9210153,-117.2862229,2752m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Road Hog on July 19, 2024, 03:55:30 PM
When TxDOT expanded US 380 to a 4-lane divided in Hunt County about 2 decades ago, they straightened a curve and bypassed the unincorporated community of Floyd, leaving a half-mile loop of Business 380. Only thing that was there was an elementary school and (I think) a church.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: algorerhythms on July 19, 2024, 04:53:29 PM
Yeah, but if we didn't build bypasses around nothing special, then how are the Vogons going to demolish Arthur Dent's house?
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: roadman65 on July 19, 2024, 05:44:21 PM
In New Orleans, though not signed a Bypass, US 90 mainline between the end points of US 90 Business bypasses nothing as the business route is expressway grade.  In essence, US 90 Business is a better route than the mainline it loops around.

So what does mainline US 90 on Clairborn Avenue really bypass? ( Rhetorical  question ) A freeway that's faster.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Dirt Roads on July 19, 2024, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 18, 2024, 05:19:03 PMLooking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 19, 2024, 10:47:34 AMThe Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265/KY 841/IN 265).

Quote from: bwana39 on July 19, 2024, 11:31:39 AMThis is not a bypass. It is a loop. <snipped>

Rickroll!  Better check out hbelkins' avatar.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Dirt Roads on July 19, 2024, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: algorerhythms on July 19, 2024, 04:53:29 PMYeah, but if we didn't build bypasses around nothing special, then how are the Vogons going to demolish Arthur Dent's house?

Is that meant to be another reference to Future I-42 in North Carolina?   :hmmm:
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Rothman on July 20, 2024, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: algorerhythms on July 19, 2024, 04:53:29 PMYeah, but if we didn't build bypasses around nothing special, then how are the Vogons going to demolish Arthur Dent's house?

That was Mr. Prosser.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: hbelkins on July 22, 2024, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 19, 2024, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 18, 2024, 05:19:03 PMLooking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 19, 2024, 10:47:34 AMThe Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265/KY 841/IN 265).

Quote from: bwana39 on July 19, 2024, 11:31:39 AMThis is not a bypass. It is a loop. <snipped>

Rickroll!  Better check out hbelkins' avatar.


 :rofl:

Seriously, how about the short four-lane section of US 52 between Kenova and Fort Gay? It bypasses Prichard, but Prichard is just a wide spot in the road.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Rothman on July 22, 2024, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 22, 2024, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 19, 2024, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 18, 2024, 05:19:03 PMLooking for other modern-day cutoffs, shortcuts and bypasses that don't really bypass anything important.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 19, 2024, 10:47:34 AMThe Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265/KY 841/IN 265).

Quote from: bwana39 on July 19, 2024, 11:31:39 AMThis is not a bypass. It is a loop. <snipped>

Rickroll!  Better check out hbelkins' avatar.


 :rofl:

Seriously, how about the short four-lane section of US 52 between Kenova and Fort Gay? It bypasses Prichard, but Prichard is just a wide spot in the road.

Heh.  Reminds me of one time when my family was driving along KY 122.  Locals have all sorts of names for little places out there that aren't marked.  Upper Burton, Lower Burton, Jack's Creek, Mead Hill, etc.  So, that one time, we were driving along, I think just on the north side of Mead Hill (old route before the new "bypass" was built) and my mother made the remark, "Eh, this wide spot in the road had a name, but I can't remember it now."
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Quillz on May 04, 2025, 09:35:20 PM
The new US-395 bypass around Olancha. Not exactly the most crowded place in the world, but the bypass has more to do with maintaining the expressway-like standards of 395.

About a decade ago, a bypass was built on US-101 around Willits. (And like the new one with 395, CA-20 was extended a little bit to junction with the new bypass). Willits is another community that isn't exactly New York in terms of traffic, but I guess the logic was having a freeway bypass was better for safety.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: pderocco on May 04, 2025, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: Quillz on May 04, 2025, 09:35:20 PMThe new US-395 bypass around Olancha. Not exactly the most crowded place in the world, but the bypass has more to do with maintaining the expressway-like standards of 395.

About a decade ago, a bypass was built on US-101 around Willits. (And like the new one with 395, CA-20 was extended a little bit to junction with the new bypass). Willits is another community that isn't exactly New York in terms of traffic, but I guess the logic was having a freeway bypass was better for safety.
I think the Olancha/Cartago Bypass is the first time they've significantly rerouted US-395 in California since they bypassed Crowley Lake in 1970 (unless you count moving the road over 200 feet around Manzanar, which was silly and pointless). I'm not sure why they bothered with this major project, because it looked like there was room to widen the road to four lanes.

Willits had plenty of precedent. Most significant towns along US-101 have gotten bypassed over the years. I hate the fact that it's only two lanes, made stupidly expensive by being a viaduct for over a mile, and not having any intersections for its entire length. I'd rather drive through Willits.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 04, 2025, 11:32:58 PM
For some reason CA 99 (formerly US 99) bypasses the site of Quail siding at Exit 73 north of Pixley.  The former surface grade of US 99 in Quail was never removed and is very easy to access from the southbound off-ramp.  Quail was dead as a place people lived even by the 1950s. 
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: jlam on May 04, 2025, 11:40:32 PM
I nominate the two-year-old Mentone Bypass, a four-lane bypass of the town of 22. The bypass directs trucks around the town to the oil fields in the north.

(https://i.postimg.cc/90jh6sKY/mentone.png)

Kinda looks like the beginnings of a Cities: Skylines world.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Bruce on May 04, 2025, 11:53:01 PM
US 195 skirts around Plaza (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3164782,-117.3764799,4781m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), a tiny spot in the Palouse with a handful of homes and many more cows. The interchange is probably a bit overkill.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 05, 2025, 12:16:11 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 04, 2025, 11:53:01 PMUS 195 skirts around Plaza (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3164782,-117.3764799,4781m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), a tiny spot in the Palouse with a handful of homes and many more cows. The interchange is probably a bit overkill.

What's up with this road stub?
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3100494,-117.3886839,3a,36.7y,170.21h,87.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1surdur3-z-bBqK0KCFqJ7ug!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.6022741416608426%26panoid%3Durdur3-z-bBqK0KCFqJ7ug%26yaw%3D170.2148528556944!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Over here in Alabama, you have AL 201, which serves as a bypass/cutoff between US 29 and AL 93 for the tiny town of Banks:
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8056863,-85.8266547,3800m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Bruce on May 05, 2025, 12:20:03 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 05, 2025, 12:16:11 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 04, 2025, 11:53:01 PMUS 195 skirts around Plaza (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3164782,-117.3764799,4781m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), a tiny spot in the Palouse with a handful of homes and many more cows. The interchange is probably a bit overkill.

What's up with this road stub?
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3100494,-117.3886839,3a,36.7y,170.21h,87.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1surdur3-z-bBqK0KCFqJ7ug!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.6022741416608426%26panoid%3Durdur3-z-bBqK0KCFqJ7ug%26yaw%3D170.2148528556944!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

The north half of the bypass was constructed first, so it rejoined the old alignment using that stub. Once the section south of Cheney Plaza Road was completed, it wasn't needed anymore.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 05, 2025, 12:24:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 05, 2025, 12:20:03 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 05, 2025, 12:16:11 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 04, 2025, 11:53:01 PMUS 195 skirts around Plaza (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3164782,-117.3764799,4781m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), a tiny spot in the Palouse with a handful of homes and many more cows. The interchange is probably a bit overkill.

What's up with this road stub?
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3100494,-117.3886839,3a,36.7y,170.21h,87.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1surdur3-z-bBqK0KCFqJ7ug!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.6022741416608426%26panoid%3Durdur3-z-bBqK0KCFqJ7ug%26yaw%3D170.2148528556944!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

The north half of the bypass was constructed first, so it rejoined the old alignment using that stub. Once the section south of Cheney Plaza Road was completed, it wasn't needed anymore.

Ah, that makes sense. Surprised it wasn't at least partially repurposed into a ramp.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: GaryV on May 05, 2025, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 22, 2024, 03:57:51 PMis just a wide spot in the road

It's really a small town when a "wide spot in the road" isn't any wider.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: vdeane on May 05, 2025, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: jlam on May 04, 2025, 11:40:32 PMKinda looks like the beginnings of a Cities: Skylines world.
It's missing the highway carriageways randomly turning into a pair of two-way two-lane roads.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Molandfreak on May 05, 2025, 01:35:43 PM
Low-hanging fruit, but I-57 around Cairo. :bigass:
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 05, 2025, 01:40:24 PM
Ruins porn is always special.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: RobbieL2415 on May 05, 2025, 03:14:25 PM
How about a bypass of sand?

This one was needed due to coastal erosion.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6146374,-75.4662982,3810m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6146374,-75.4662982,3810m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQzMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2025, 03:27:01 PM
NC 42 around Wilson, NC is nothing special, but to make Ward Blvd part of the state road system.  It's shorter to drive through Wilson.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: formulanone on May 05, 2025, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: jlam on May 04, 2025, 11:40:32 PMI nominate the two-year-old Mentone Bypass, a four-lane bypass of the town of 22. The bypass directs trucks around the town to the oil fields in the north.

(https://i.postimg.cc/90jh6sKY/mentone.png)

Kinda looks like the beginnings of a Cities: Skylines world.

Thread over, you win.

I'm surprised there hadn't been jokes about the Mentone Bypass on this forum.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2025, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 05, 2025, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: jlam on May 04, 2025, 11:40:32 PMI nominate the two-year-old Mentone Bypass, a four-lane bypass of the town of 22. The bypass directs trucks around the town to the oil fields in the north.

(https://i.postimg.cc/90jh6sKY/mentone.png)

Kinda looks like the beginnings of a Cities: Skylines world.

Thread over, you win.

I'm surprised there hadn't been jokes about the Mentone Bypass on this forum.

Now THAT is overbuilding to a comical extreme. Of course, Mentone IS an important...ish...place, as it's the largest population center and county seat of Loving County with its immense population of 64 (why does this county even exist?).
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: PColumbus73 on May 06, 2025, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2025, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 05, 2025, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: jlam on May 04, 2025, 11:40:32 PMI nominate the two-year-old Mentone Bypass, a four-lane bypass of the town of 22. The bypass directs trucks around the town to the oil fields in the north.

(https://i.postimg.cc/90jh6sKY/mentone.png)

Kinda looks like the beginnings of a Cities: Skylines world.

Thread over, you win.

I'm surprised there hadn't been jokes about the Mentone Bypass on this forum.

Now THAT is overbuilding to a comical extreme. Of course, Mentone IS an important...ish...place, as it's the largest population center and county seat of Loving County with its immense population of 64 (why does this county even exist?).

Rest assured that a Texas politician will designate a future I-20N corridor to ensure such an important town is connected to the interstate system.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Rothman on May 06, 2025, 11:04:04 AM
Makes me wonder if turning radii or other maneuvering concerns led to that.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: elsmere241 on May 06, 2025, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2025, 03:27:01 PMNC 42 around Wilson, NC is nothing special, but to make Ward Blvd part of the state road system.  It's shorter to drive through Wilson.

At least North Carolina has built bypasses over the years.  Delaware could and should have built them for Newark, Middletown, and Dover when they had the chance.  Now each has a piece of one, and it's too late to do anything more.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2025, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: elsmere241 on May 06, 2025, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2025, 03:27:01 PMNC 42 around Wilson, NC is nothing special, but to make Ward Blvd part of the state road system.  It's shorter to drive through Wilson.

At least North Carolina has built bypasses over the years.  Delaware could and should have built them for Newark, Middletown, and Dover when they had the chance.  Now each has a piece of one, and it's too late to do anything more.

What about the US 301 Freeway?
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: elsmere241 on May 06, 2025, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 06, 2025, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: elsmere241 on May 06, 2025, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2025, 03:27:01 PMNC 42 around Wilson, NC is nothing special, but to make Ward Blvd part of the state road system.  It's shorter to drive through Wilson.

At least North Carolina has built bypasses over the years.  Delaware could and should have built them for Newark, Middletown, and Dover when they had the chance.  Now each has a piece of one, and it's too late to do anything more.

What about the US 301 Freeway?

I meant full-loop bypasses.  They could have been built when each place started to grow . . .
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2025, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: elsmere241 on May 06, 2025, 06:14:40 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 06, 2025, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: elsmere241 on May 06, 2025, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2025, 03:27:01 PMNC 42 around Wilson, NC is nothing special, but to make Ward Blvd part of the state road system.  It's shorter to drive through Wilson.

At least North Carolina has built bypasses over the years.  Delaware could and should have built them for Newark, Middletown, and Dover when they had the chance.  Now each has a piece of one, and it's too late to do anything more.

What about the US 301 Freeway?

I meant full-loop bypasses.  They could have been built when each place started to grow . . .

Well talking about a state dead against E-W full highways.   IMO DE 404 should be a four lane expressway with a full limited access bypass around Georgetown.  However they won't build or upgrade east West routes. This coming from someone I know knowing DelDots aspirations.
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: jgb191 on May 06, 2025, 11:30:28 PM
I never saw anything "special" about Encino, Texas bypassed by US-281 (eventually-to-be I-69C).  Same goes for Pierce and Hungerford, Texas bypassed by US-59 (eventually-to-be I-69).
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 06, 2025, 11:47:47 PM
The Cross Keys Bypass is a county bypass of the small Cross Keys section of Washington Twp, Gloucester County NJ.  But its main purpose was to bypass a 6-way intersection that was becoming increasingly congested.  It created several 4 way intersections, and all function normally.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ay8cYmfLKEq9nQAK6
Title: Re: "Bypasses" around Nothing Special
Post by: Quillz on May 07, 2025, 01:27:46 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 06, 2025, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 05, 2025, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: jlam on May 04, 2025, 11:40:32 PMI nominate the two-year-old Mentone Bypass, a four-lane bypass of the town of 22. The bypass directs trucks around the town to the oil fields in the north.

(https://i.postimg.cc/90jh6sKY/mentone.png)

Kinda looks like the beginnings of a Cities: Skylines world.

Thread over, you win.

I'm surprised there hadn't been jokes about the Mentone Bypass on this forum.

Now THAT is overbuilding to a comical extreme. Of course, Mentone IS an important...ish...place, as it's the largest population center and county seat of Loving County with its immense population of 64 (why does this county even exist?).
The history was county seats had to be reachable within a day so farmers could vote but still have harvest time. Thus why Texas has 254 counties, and most are small. 

As the country expanded west, the railroads made it easier to reach county seats.