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Title: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: bugo on September 09, 2024, 05:16:24 PM
https://www.news9.com/story/66de5a210f777d2716719867/odot-to-replace-tribal-boundary-signs-with-new-ones-that-all-look-the-same
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 09, 2024, 06:08:20 PM
Ah yes, looking the same. It's almost as if that's how road signs were meant to be.
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: Scott5114 on September 09, 2024, 11:27:48 PM
ODOT can make signs that all look the same? I didn't know they could do that.
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: Bobby5280 on September 09, 2024, 11:46:12 PM
Oh yeah, ODOT can make signs that look the same. They'll even keep oddball errors in the original sign layout intact when replacing aged vinyl lettering on a big green sign panel. We have a few examples here in Lawton, like this beauty:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6288502,-98.3873449,3a,75y,194.85h,84.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srASZmsxgtx030dMB253Uhg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Notice the oversized "l" in "Great Plains" or the big "r" in "Auditorium." ODOT has replaced the reflective vinyl lettering on the panel at least a couple times since it got switched to Clearview over a decade ago. The layout error has nothing to do with the font choice. The ransom note look is someone not giving a damn about details.
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: jdingus on September 10, 2024, 12:55:14 PM
Still waiting on them to sign 240,344,335   :D
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: I-35 on September 10, 2024, 01:24:49 PM
Is the MUTCD clear that tribal boundaries should be on brown signs?  ODOT is stating that as a fact, but I'm not so sure.  I think they probably should be on green signs given the outcome of McGirt.
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: Road Hog on September 10, 2024, 02:29:15 PM
Native American tribes are absolutely a political subdivision of the U.S. so they deserve green signs as present. The only way Oklahoma could slap them in the face harder is to make the signs red.
Title: Re: ODOT to replace Indian reservation signs
Post by: SoonerCowboy on September 12, 2024, 08:28:25 PM
I had wondered who was responsible for the signs in the first place. There are multiple signs that are missing or was never there to begin with. There was a sign on I-40 that said "entering Kickapoo nation" that disappeared after one of the tornados in Shawnee. The sign north of the Red river on US 271 that lets you know that you are entering the Choctaw nation has always been brown as long as I can remember.