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Title: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: kurumi on October 23, 2024, 05:57:47 PM
https://www.tripgeo.com/scrambledmaps

A city-level map is broken into about 18 tiles and scrambled. Put the map back together in as few moves as possible.

(not my code or site; found on a non-roads forum)
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PM
That was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Henry on October 23, 2024, 10:47:49 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PMThat was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.
In my first attempt, I was able to solve the puzzle in 31 moves. My second time, it was 22.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Rothman on October 24, 2024, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: Henry on October 23, 2024, 10:47:49 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PMThat was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.
In my first attempt, I was able to solve the puzzle in 31 moves. My second time, it was 22.

My first time was 22 and I thought that was pretty pathetic. :D
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: epzik8 on October 24, 2024, 09:32:46 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PMThat was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.

If it was Damascus, Maryland, perhaps I'd be able to solve it in no time.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 1995hoo on October 24, 2024, 09:38:56 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PMThat was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.

The boldfaced text that shows up when you click the link does say, "Today's city to unscramble is Damascus, Syria."
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CtrlAltDel on October 24, 2024, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 24, 2024, 09:38:56 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PMThat was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.

The boldfaced text that shows up when you click the link does say, "Today's city to unscramble is Damascus, Syria."

I wish I had seen that. Now I just feel silly.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on October 24, 2024, 12:50:53 PM
It's possible to pick cities to play with the link where it mentions that today's city is Damascus.  I've been averaging 14-16 moves on the ones I've tried.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Rothman on October 24, 2024, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 24, 2024, 12:50:53 PMIt's possible to pick cities to play with the link where it mentions that today's city is Damascus.  I've been averaging 14-16 moves on the ones I've tried.

I couldn't get other map scrambles to come up.  It just popped up with a weird info page per city.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on October 24, 2024, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 24, 2024, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 24, 2024, 12:50:53 PMIt's possible to pick cities to play with the link where it mentions that today's city is Damascus.  I've been averaging 14-16 moves on the ones I've tried.

I couldn't get other map scrambles to come up.  It just popped up with a weird info page per city.
You have to hit "game" after you get to the info page.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Rothman on October 24, 2024, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 24, 2024, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 24, 2024, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 24, 2024, 12:50:53 PMIt's possible to pick cities to play with the link where it mentions that today's city is Damascus.  I've been averaging 14-16 moves on the ones I've tried.

I couldn't get other map scrambles to come up.  It just popped up with a weird info page per city.
You have to hit "game" after you get to the info page.

That just took me back to the overall map of possible cities.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 1995hoo on October 25, 2024, 12:04:15 PM
The way I got to other cities: Click on the "Visit the Cities page" link on the first page that comes up (right below where it refers to today's city). In the orange bar on the left, "Cities" is selected. Scroll the map to zoom in on a city (let's use New York). There are dots all over the place. Click on one of them. I just clicked the orange dot located in City Hall Park and then I clicked the blue "Game" button. When I did that, it takes me back to the original screen, but it says "The city to unscramble is New York City NY, United States," rather than telling me today's city is the capital of Togo. Then you click "Start Game."
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Bruce on October 25, 2024, 02:22:15 PM
Lomé's map was way too easy. I got 13 but probably could have been even lower with some strategic swapping.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Henry on October 25, 2024, 10:53:01 PM
This time, we have Valladolid, Spain, and I was able to get it in 25 moves!
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 25, 2024, 11:50:57 PM
Valladolid, Spain in 16 moves
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 26, 2024, 05:51:25 AM
Why your guys are solving it with only 18 tiles when you can set it to as many as 81? :sombrero:
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Hunty2022 on October 26, 2024, 02:58:03 PM
Got Valladolid in 15 moves.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: dlsterner on October 27, 2024, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 24, 2024, 09:32:46 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 23, 2024, 10:19:59 PMThat was kind of fun. My first city was Damascus. My second city was also Damascus.

If it was Damascus, Maryland, perhaps I'd be able to solve it in no time.

epzik8, here you go!

Damascus, MD (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/damascus-md-us)
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 28, 2024, 04:54:21 PM
Among the places I've unscrambled already are two of my "example towns" (Aschersleben, Germany and Isernia, Italy), one "supplementary town" (Halluin at the top of La France), as well as former "example town" Belvidere. I've also done some really out of the beaten path, such as Jamestown, St. Helena or Tamanrasset, Algeria.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Henry on October 28, 2024, 10:37:27 PM
May I suggest these five cities to you?

Chicago, IL (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/chicago-il-us) (the hometown of me and my brother Jeff)
Los Angeles, CA (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/los-angeles-ca-us) (the city where I lived for 12 years)
Seattle, WA (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/seattle-wa-us) (the city I where currently live)
San Diego, CA (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/san-diego-ca-us) (my wife's hometown)
Denver, CO (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/denver-co-us) (the city where Jeff currently lives)
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: hobsini2 on October 29, 2024, 07:09:19 PM
Did Chicago in 85 moves
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PM
I dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: hobsini2 on October 30, 2024, 08:19:53 AM
Potsdam in 79
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: hobsini2 on October 30, 2024, 08:30:06 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D
What a bitch of a map. But I did it in 72.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2024, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

I got it in 11 moves.  I do not think I got an error.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: hobsini2 on October 30, 2024, 08:41:22 AM
I would guess that everyone's hometown (or a nearby one) is available. I suggest doing your own maps of your birthplace, current home city and 1 other significant city to you personally such as college town, childhood hometown, etc.  So here are my maps:
Birthplace - Oshkosh, WI: https://tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/oshkosh-wi-us
Current Home - Bolingbrook, IL: https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/bolingbrook-il-us
College Town - St Paul, MN: https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/saint-paul-mn-us
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Hunty2022 on October 30, 2024, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2024, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

I got it in 11 moves.  I do not think I got an error.

I assume your starter tile was on land.

Quote from: hobsini2 on October 30, 2024, 08:41:22 AMI would guess that everyone's hometown (or a nearby one) is available.

I've been doing Charlottesville, VA perfectly multiple times a day on 9x9 format now.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2024, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 30, 2024, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2024, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

I got it in 11 moves.  I do not think I got an error.

I assume your starter tile was on land.

Oh I used the 6x3 setting, but I got it in 16 moves starting on water.

I got the 9x9 version in 129 moves.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on October 30, 2024, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2024, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 30, 2024, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2024, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

I got it in 11 moves.  I do not think I got an error.

I assume your starter tile was on land.

Oh I used the 6x3 setting, but I got it in 16 moves starting on water.

I got the 9x9 version in 129 moves.

I actually got it in 12 (default size, not 9x9).  Starter was entirely ocean, but I was able to figure out where the I-264 tile was supposed to go based on the tiles featuring major roads and use that like a starter.  Got lucky and had all the ocean tiles sort themselves out while I was working on unscrambling the land ones.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 30, 2024, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

Dang, I took 92 moves. I find small places harder to do. And it seems there's a cutoff at 15,000 or so unless it is a capital of an entity (otherwise places like Longyearbyen wouldn't be included).
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 30, 2024, 03:34:47 PM
Brazzaville in 15.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2024, 05:15:55 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

In general puzzles centered near the coastline are a PITA. I've done Ajaccio, Krotone and Termoli, all of them with a significant share of sea, and it was a pain worse than childbirth when starting on water.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 06, 2024, 08:47:55 AM
There's a new puzzle launched this week: https://www.tripgeo.com/scrambledhexmaps. It's like the original but with hexagonal tiles. Have fun!
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on November 06, 2024, 12:39:59 PM
Did the city selection break for anyone else?  No cities load on the map.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 1995hoo on November 06, 2024, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 06, 2024, 12:39:59 PMDid the city selection break for anyone else?  No cities load on the map.

Yup. Sometime yesterday.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 10, 2024, 08:57:44 AM
So now if you have already solved the map of the day you can select a random city without having to go to the map. I've already gotten places all over the world, from the best known places to some really off the beaten path settlement in North Korea. As well as maps ranging from the very detailed to the poor ones, and even some glitched ones consisting of just a boundary and nothing else, like a bunch of 16 sites in the middle of Siberia.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Henry on November 12, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 06, 2024, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 06, 2024, 12:39:59 PMDid the city selection break for anyone else?  No cities load on the map.

Yup. Sometime yesterday.
Same for me, I've just given up on it outright.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 12, 2024, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2024, 05:15:55 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 29, 2024, 10:40:52 PMI dare each and every one of y'all to unscramble this city (https://www.tripgeo.com/ScrambledMaps/virginia-beach-va-us) perfectly on 9x9, no errors  :-D

In general puzzles centered near the coastline are a PITA. I've done Ajaccio, Krotone and Termoli, all of them with a significant share of sea, and it was a pain worse than childbirth when starting on water.

Today's was Majuro, in the Marshall Islands. 9 tiles were just water. I got it in 20 moves, but there was definitely some luck involved.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 13, 2024, 02:31:42 AM
For me it was 66 out of 81 tiles (I play on a 9x9 grid). Many of them were already in place (as most are interchangeable anyway), so I only needed 14 moves to solve it (usually I need 90-100 if not more).
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 1995hoo on November 13, 2024, 07:37:03 AM
Quote from: Henry on November 12, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 06, 2024, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 06, 2024, 12:39:59 PMDid the city selection break for anyone else?  No cities load on the map.

Yup. Sometime yesterday.
Same for me, I've just given up on it outright.

Yesterday I found the city selection map would load, but if I tried to play a city in Europe the map itself would have two-thirds blank tiles. That game is quite addictive.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on November 13, 2024, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 13, 2024, 02:31:42 AMFor me it was 66 out of 81 tiles (I play on a 9x9 grid). Many of them were already in place (as most are interchangeable anyway), so I only needed 14 moves to solve it (usually I need 90-100 if not more).
For me the water tiles don't end up interchangeable; it actually wants them to go in their correct locations, even though that can only be determined through trial and error.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 1995hoo on November 15, 2024, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 13, 2024, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 13, 2024, 02:31:42 AMFor me it was 66 out of 81 tiles (I play on a 9x9 grid). Many of them were already in place (as most are interchangeable anyway), so I only needed 14 moves to solve it (usually I need 90-100 if not more).
For me the water tiles don't end up interchangeable; it actually wants them to go in their correct locations, even though that can only be determined through trial and error.

Sometimes the water tiles are not all the same color. There's a subtle darker blue shading on some maps and you have to match up the different shades. It can be fairly difficult to discern the difference, especially if your monitor is dusty (mine is). If you try unscrambling the map of Hamilton, Bermuda, you'll encounter that issue.

Then there are the obvious situations where the water tiles include ferry routes or similar, but those are less difficult to match up because the lines help.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 15, 2024, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 13, 2024, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 13, 2024, 02:31:42 AMFor me it was 66 out of 81 tiles (I play on a 9x9 grid). Many of them were already in place (as most are interchangeable anyway), so I only needed 14 moves to solve it (usually I need 90-100 if not more).
For me the water tiles don't end up interchangeable; it actually wants them to go in their correct locations, even though that can only be determined through trial and error.

Sometimes the water tiles are not all the same color. There's a subtle darker blue shading on some maps and you have to match up the different shades. It can be fairly difficult to discern the difference, especially if your monitor is dusty (mine is). If you try unscrambling the map of Hamilton, Bermuda, you'll encounter that issue.

Then there are the obvious situations where the water tiles include ferry routes or similar, but those are less difficult to match up because the lines help.
Not to mention that the matched tiles have a different color shade from the unmatched ones.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 15, 2024, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 15, 2024, 12:52:11 PMSometimes the water tiles are not all the same color. There's a subtle darker blue shading on some maps and you have to match up the different shades. It can be fairly difficult to discern the difference, especially if your monitor is dusty (mine is). If you try unscrambling the map of Hamilton, Bermuda, you'll encounter that issue.

Then there are the obvious situations where the water tiles include ferry routes or similar, but those are less difficult to match up because the lines help.

Yeah, I've tried Hamilton and other coastal places with reefs (which is what the subtly darker blue means) and at first it is a pain, but once one realizes it's not that hard.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 10:25:15 PM
It's worth noting that I was speaking of the solid blue ocean tiles, not the dotted blue that appears around some coastlines.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: 1995hoo on November 16, 2024, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 10:25:15 PMIt's worth noting that I was speaking of the solid blue ocean tiles, not the dotted blue that appears around some coastlines.

I was as well. I find it quite hard to discern the different shade of blue that appears on some of the tiles, though as I said it could certainly be due to the dust on my screen. I suppose I could try using my iPad to load a city I know to have slightly different shades of blue in the ocean squares to see whether it's more discernable.

Edited to add: The game wouldn't load on my iPad. Oh well.

Edited again: I tried a second time on my iPad using a different browser and this time the game loaded. I asked for the map of Hamilton, Bermuda. The different blue shading was slightly easier to discern on here than on my PC, but only slightly.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: dlsterner on November 16, 2024, 01:15:37 PM
I've been enjoying Scrambled Maps - but some of these are diabolical!  Asked for a random map and got Uttaradit, Thailand.  Took me 203 moves!  I usually play 6 rows by 9 columns and typically solve in 50-55.  Almost went for a different random map, but dammit I'm stubborn.

https://tripgeo.com/scrambledmaps/uttaradit-th (https://tripgeo.com/scrambledmaps/uttaradit-th)

QuoteI played Scrambled Maps and unscrambled the map of Uttaradit, Thailand in 203 moves! (9 x 6 map) Visit  and see if you can do better!
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 17, 2024, 04:19:52 AM
Heavy forested puzzles are a royal PITA. There may be a pattern to that, but I haven't found it yet, resulting in me taking 547 moves, or six times what it normally takes me on a 9x9 grid, to solve one somewhere deep in China, as I had to do a lot of trial and error after placing all the tiles containing something else.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Scott5114 on November 18, 2024, 05:11:47 AM
Their map of Las Vegas is a little funky because it centers on downtown, which is fine, but it means that you get to try and remember the road layout in some of the crappiest parts of town, while the Strip is off the edge of the map. It's probably a bitch for most people.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: mrsman on November 21, 2024, 03:16:59 PM
Go to the cities map page:

https://www.tripgeo.com/cities?lat=22.5&lng=0&zoom=2

Zoom in on any area.  There are tons of choices.

If you simply type in a city name, you will get the Downtown (especially for larger cities).  But this can really hone in on very local areas.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: vdeane on February 20, 2025, 10:51:01 PM
They came out with a new version today.  I was ready to complain about them taking away the ability to set your grid size, but it turns out it's still there, just buried in settings.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Henry on February 20, 2025, 11:19:45 PM
Hope it works this time, because it's been awhile since the last time I tried and just gave up on it entirely.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: hobsini2 on February 25, 2025, 07:34:15 PM
I just redid Oshkosh - 9x9. Got it in 78 moves.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: Road Hog on February 26, 2025, 11:23:41 PM
I got an easy one to start: El Reno OK. Did it in 15 moves. Easy because it was a grid and there were railroad lines that were a dead tipoff.
Title: Re: Map game: Scrambled Maps
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on February 28, 2025, 06:12:28 AM
Well, for me the American grids are a pain to solve, since many tiles look the same to me.