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Title: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: BJ59 on November 05, 2024, 07:03:34 PM
Just noticed on Google Maps that I-69E has been labeled on US-77 from Brownsville to Riviera, and then again from Corpus Christi to Victoria. On the maps it still looks like there are still at-grade entrances to the highway, and that the highway (aka US 77) runs straight through the town of Odem. So I'm assuming these stretches are not completely up to interstate standards yet. Anyone know why the roads are being labeled as interstate?

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9491007,-97.5815937,14.5z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Title: Re: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: GaryV on November 05, 2024, 07:39:45 PM
Because Google?
Title: Re: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: vdeane on November 05, 2024, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: BJ59 on November 05, 2024, 07:03:34 PMJust noticed on Google Maps that I-69E has been labeled on US-77 from Brownsville to Riviera, and then again from Corpus Christi to Victoria. On the maps it still looks like there are still at-grade entrances to the highway, and that the highway (aka US 77) runs straight through the town of Odem. So I'm assuming these stretches are not completely up to interstate standards yet. Anyone know why the roads are being labeled as interstate?

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9491007,-97.5815937,14.5z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
To elaborate on @GaryV: Google does this kind of stuff all the time, for pretty much no rhyme or reason.  Google Maps is good with thing like directions, looking at street view, or finding businesses.  For actual map data, OSM is almost always better.
Title: Re: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: Henry on November 06, 2024, 03:21:00 PM
Most of those towns will definitely be bypassed, so yeah, it's very premature to label highways that will never be part of the new freeway, such as the one running through downtown, as it is in the example cited here. I have a suspicion that FritzOwl may have been feeding information to Google, which leads to things like that.
Title: Re: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: The Ghostbuster on November 06, 2024, 04:05:19 PM
I wonder why they skipped the Riviera to Driscoll segment? Are they going to mark more of US 281 Interstate 69C, US 59 between Laredo and Victoria Interstate 69W, and US 59 between Victoria and Beasley mainline Interstate 69 next? How about US 59 beyond Cleveland? I know these are unanswerable questions, but it makes one wonder what's up with the premature map markings.
Title: Re: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: BJ59 on November 06, 2024, 08:43:27 PM
Yeah that's part of why I was confused because not only are the markings wrong but they are also inconsistent.

Quote from: Henry on November 06, 2024, 03:21:00 PMI have a suspicion that FritzOwl may have been feeding information to Google, which leads to things like that.

 :-D
Title: Re: I-69E on Google Maps
Post by: english si on November 12, 2024, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: BJ59 on November 05, 2024, 07:03:34 PMJust noticed on Google Maps that I-69E has been labeled on US-77 from Brownsville to Riviera, and then again from Corpus Christi to Victoria. On the maps it still looks like there are still at-grade entrances to the highway, and that the highway (aka US 77) runs straight through the town of Odem. So I'm assuming these stretches are not completely up to interstate standards yet. Anyone know why the roads are being labeled as interstate?

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9491007,-97.5815937,14.5z?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
With Google maps, you can request changes. All you would need is to link to some official document from a while back saying that US77 will become I-69E and say 'its now done' and the person working for peanuts in Bangalore or Benin City where labour costs are low will approve the change as they neither know any better (not having been anywhere near Brownsville) nor are fussed about having accurate data as they aren't paid enough for that.

And then people with knowledge seeking to say "no it isn't" end up with a higher barrier of proof (like proper field trip photos or the like) so the error remains in place until that bar is met.

And then back to square one - lower burden of proof for adding stuff that's garbage than for removing stuff that's garbage.



I used to work opposite a swimming pool/gym complex that was being replaced by building one further away and then demolishing the old one that kept asking me for reviews of it even after the new place nearby had opened and Google Maps had changed the name to the new name. Despite me constantly saying that I didn't go there when it was still open over the road, it still asked me for reviews of this new place as I had apparently spent hours there (it was well outside a GPS rounding error issue after moving) as it thought it was still in the building that was being turned into car parking despite changing both name and address. Google seems very quick to bring in incorrect changes, and insanely slow to bring in correct ones.