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Title: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Streetman on November 15, 2024, 07:53:52 PM
To be clear, this is not about a road, or bridge, etc., referred to by a former name (Tappan Zee / Mario Cuomo) but by a name it never had.
Not too long ago, a newspaper had a headline about an accident on the Merritt Parkway in Woodbridge, CT:
https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/State-police-One-dead-in-crash-on-Merritt-16338355.php
It should, of course, be the Wilbur Cross Parkway. I've seen it often referred to as the Merritt in social media.
The problem may be that there are prominent "Welcome to the Merritt Parkway" signs at each end and "Merritt Parkway" shields along with the Route 15 reassurance markers, but no Wilbur Cross signs or markers.
Are there any other often misnamed roads, and any ideas why they are misnamed?
Apologies if this has been asked before. I tried searching for the question.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: hotdogPi on November 15, 2024, 07:55:54 PM
128 has occasionally been applied to the standalone portions of I-95, such as in Attleboro. These were never part of 128.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: jp the roadgeek on November 15, 2024, 08:35:54 PM
CT SR 695 being identified as I-695

I've seen maps where CT and RI 2 are connected via a concurrency with US 1 from Pawcatuck to Charlestown. 
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PM
The segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Henry on November 15, 2024, 09:48:05 PM
I've often seen and heard IL 394 being referred to as I-394.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: PNWRoadgeek on November 15, 2024, 09:52:55 PM
Read the post incorrectly, was gonna say I-84 and I-5 with their technical freeway names in Portland. But names that a highway never had.. I can't really think of any over here.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 09:58:40 PM
"Alternate Route 7" north of Albany - it's actually just NY 7.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Mr. Matté on November 15, 2024, 10:15:35 PM
Philly traffic reports: "The 42 Freeway heading into the Walt Whitman Bridge." I can't tell if 42 was ever applied to the freeway north of I-295, it seems to have been in construction contracts / state laws that the North-South Freeway all the way to Camden, but don't know if when it opened it was signed as such or if it started out as 80S or 76.

The traffic report mistakes are just logical inaccuracies though.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Rothman on November 15, 2024, 10:16:59 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 09:58:40 PM"Alternate Route 7" north of Albany - it's actually just NY 7.

But it was ALT 7 previously.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Rothman on November 15, 2024, 10:17:46 PM
People get I-690 and NY 695 mixed up in the Syracuse area just because of the numbers being close together.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 15, 2024, 10:16:59 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 15, 2024, 09:58:40 PM"Alternate Route 7" north of Albany - it's actually just NY 7.

But it was ALT 7 previously.
Wasn't it NY 7 from the time it opened?  Although a look at the wiki does show the source of the confusion:
Quote from: AARoads WikiThe initial plan was for the highway to be labelled as a true alternate to the surface alignment, but this was later changed to have the old surface alignment designated as an extension of NY 2. On December 12, 1985, NY 7 "Alternate" opened, becoming part of a realigned NY 7.[35] The old alignment still bore NY 7 signs through 1986 with the intent to ease the transition, but the change only caused more confusion for motorists in the interim.[36]
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: TheStranger on November 16, 2024, 02:20:02 AM
I've seen before online that people refer to the part of I-90 between I-71 and the Shoreway/OH 2 in Cleveland as part of I-71, but not sure the source of that (I've only been to that city and through that setion once) - I recall this may be a side effect of that segment originally being planned as a portion of 71.

Would need confirmation if this was or is how that north-south freeway stretch is referred to.

Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: epzik8 on November 16, 2024, 08:52:34 AM
I've heard people call MD 24 north of the Bel Air Bypass "924" which is the post-1987 numbering of old MD 24 south of the bypass, but part of the same continual roadway.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 16, 2024, 09:25:16 AM
I've seen people use "Route 136" to refer to A-720. I don't know why.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
In California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: 1995hoo on November 16, 2024, 07:55:44 PM
A surprising number of people swear that the entire New Jersey Turnpike is I-95.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: epzik8 on November 17, 2024, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 16, 2024, 07:55:44 PMA surprising number of people swear that the entire New Jersey Turnpike is I-95.

Poor Philly
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Rothman on November 17, 2024, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on November 17, 2024, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 16, 2024, 07:55:44 PMA surprising number of people swear that the entire New Jersey Turnpike is I-95.

Poor Philly

It really isn't surprising since before the gap was completed I-95 either was just not marked or a couple of shields in the median of the NJTP turned up (1990s), so the NJTP certainly seemed like I-95 given the actual function of the road and despite the stretch through Wilmington and Philly (long distance travellers didn't really care about that and Trenton functioned as a "dead end").
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 17, 2024, 12:33:17 PM
How about CA-60 Moreno Valley and Pomona Freeways get mistaken for a former alignment for US-60. As mentioned here we talked about the San Bernardino Freeway I-10 as a former alignment of US-60, US-99 and US-70 prior to the 1964 renumbering and CA-60 is on a completely different alignment from US-60. 



https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27406.msg2523862#msg2523862

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32984.0

Also we mentioned about a hidden CA-10 at the East LA interchange but most drivers ID this road as either US-101 or I-10 due to the fact that they saw signs on this route as I-10 or US-101. 
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: kurumi on November 17, 2024, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 15, 2024, 08:35:54 PMI've seen maps where CT and RI 2 are connected via a concurrency with US 1 from Pawcatuck to Charlestown. 

I've wondered about that. There's a (possibly false) childhood memory about 1 and 2 signed at the border on the RI side. And, in the "Other_RI_1933__" doc at https://grmservices.grmims.com/vsearch/portal/public/na4/aashto/default, there are handwritten markings on a 1933 state map about a proposed change in Westerly:
* US 1 is routed along 1A
* RI 2 is extended along 1 to nearly the border

Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on November 17, 2024, 02:26:27 PM
This seems to have died down in recent years, but the standalone US 12 freeway west of I-494 was often labeled as "I-394" in Minnetonka.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: roadman65 on November 17, 2024, 03:57:40 PM
In Merit Island, FL the part of SR 528 there is called the Beachline when in reality it's the Emory L. Bennet Causeway.

Traffic reporters like to refer to FL TOLL 417 as the Greeneway when the Seminole County part is The Seminole Expressway and the part south of Exit 6 is the Southern Connector.


Then there is the West Side Highway in NYC above 72nd street which is actually the Henry Hudson Parkway.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: TheStranger on November 17, 2024, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 17, 2024, 12:33:17 PMHow about CA-60 Moreno Valley and Pomona Freeways get mistaken for a former alignment for US-60. As mentioned here we talked about the San Bernardino Freeway I-10 as a former alignment of US-60, US-99 and US-70 prior to the 1964 renumbering and CA-60 is on a completely different alignment from US-60.



https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27406.msg2523862#msg2523862

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32984.0

Also we mentioned about a hidden CA-10 at the East LA interchange but most drivers ID this road as either US-101 or I-10 due to the fact that they saw signs on this route as I-10 or US-101.

1. This thread is about the public referring to roads by an incorrect name, not misconceptions from road enthusiasts
2. That being said, the Moreno Valley Freeway is a former US 60 alignment (especially near the Jackrabbit Trail intersection), contrary to what you posted. (As for the Pomona Freeway, the section from Riverside to I-15 does parallel the 1962-era alignment of US 60, see https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~239531~5511854:State-Highway-Map,-California,-1962 )  Only the portion of freeway from around I-15 west to near Monterey Park represents true new-terrain alignment that was never signed as US 60 in any form.  (The portion of Valley Boulevard near Monterey Park was a state legislative highway but not sure this was ever signed US 60)
3. IIRC, the FHWA considers "CA 10" as just a segment of the interstate.  That portion of freeway has been signed in-the-field as I-10 since the 1960s.

Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 17, 2024, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on November 17, 2024, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 17, 2024, 12:33:17 PMHow about CA-60 Moreno Valley and Pomona Freeways get mistaken for a former alignment for US-60. As mentioned here we talked about the San Bernardino Freeway I-10 as a former alignment of US-60, US-99 and US-70 prior to the 1964 renumbering and CA-60 is on a completely different alignment from US-60.



https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27406.msg2523862#msg2523862

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32984.0

Also we mentioned about a hidden CA-10 at the East LA interchange but most drivers ID this road as either US-101 or I-10 due to the fact that they saw signs on this route as I-10 or US-101.

1. This thread is about the public referring to roads by an incorrect name, not misconceptions from road enthusiasts
2. That being said, the Moreno Valley Freeway is a former US 60 alignment (especially near the Jackrabbit Trail intersection), contrary to what you posted. (As for the Pomona Freeway, the section from Riverside to I-15 does parallel the 1962-era alignment of US 60, see https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~239531~5511854:State-Highway-Map,-California,-1962 )  Only the portion of freeway from around I-15 west to near Monterey Park represents true new-terrain alignment that was never signed as US 60 in any form.  (The portion of Valley Boulevard near Monterey Park was a state legislative highway but not sure this was ever signed US 60)
3. IIRC, the FHWA considers "CA 10" as just a segment of the interstate.  That portion of freeway has been signed in-the-field as I-10 since the 1960s.


Now I seen details of former US-60 east of Pomona going on the current CA-60 for the Moreno Valley Segment. 
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Quillz on November 17, 2024, 07:11:49 PM
A minor example: many people also refer to "Mulholland Drive" as being the entire thing from the Pacific Ocean to the Hollywood Hills. In fact, the specific drive is relatively short, less than 10 miles or so. The much longer segment is "Highway," and also thinly populated. They are two distinct roads but obviously sharing the same first name leads to confusion. (It also doesn't help the highway terminates at the drive).
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PM
Many folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: JayhawkCO on November 18, 2024, 02:34:11 PM
I think the only possible example for CO is a lot of signs having C-470 (way more so than E-470) be shown in an interstate shield. No one calls it I-470 out loud though.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 18, 2024, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PMMany folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Especially those from Sacramento and Bay Area visiting LA we call the entire section from the south end of CA-99 @ I-5 interchange to Santa Clarita Grapevine.  But once I got here I heard of locals calling it Ridge Route. 
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: pderocco on November 19, 2024, 02:03:42 AM
Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PMMany folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Well, Ridge Route Road does run right along the SB side of I-5 (in the section where the sides are swapped), so I can see referring to that piece of freeway as the Ridge Route too. It's one of the few places where you can drive on a freeway frontage road and have cars coming in the other direction on your left.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: hbelkins on November 19, 2024, 04:45:44 PM
Two examples from Estill County, KY. KY 1645 (Kirkland Avenue) is frequently referred to as "Old Pike." KY 1571 (Millers Creek Road) is often called "River Road," although that's mostly by residents of Lee and Owsley counties who use the route as an alternate to a mountainous stretch of KY 52.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: DTComposer on November 19, 2024, 06:17:44 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 18, 2024, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PMMany folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Especially those from Sacramento and Bay Area visiting LA we call the entire section from the south end of CA-99 @ I-5 interchange to Santa Clarita Grapevine.  But once I got here I heard of locals calling it Ridge Route.

To be fair, the media (particularly traffic reporters) in L.A. use The Grapevine for that whole stretch, so it makes sense that the public follows along.

And I wouldn't be surprised if some people thought grapevine referred to the cross-over section of I-5 just north of Castaic (twisted up like two strands of a vine).
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 19, 2024, 11:30:54 PM
https://www.dailyrepublic.com/news/vacaville-dixon-winters/section-of-i-505-dedicated-to-kirk-hollywood-griess/article_39e6bd90-107c-5ded-bf7b-9ed34f8eeea0.html

This is not a mistake I-505 Vacaville is also known as the Hollywood Freeway because it's named after a former CHP officer from Vacaville named Kirk Griess whose nickname was Hollywood. Note locals call this freeway I-505 or Highway 505. But if you do a search on Hollywood Freeway the history would focus more on the history of CA-170 and US-101 in the Los Angeles area.

Quote"I think about him every day," Lyman said Thursday at a private memorial highway dedication ceremony for Kirk A. Griess held at the Valley Church in Vacaville.
The event was streamed live on the CHP Facebook page.

The section of Interstate 505 between Vaca Valley Parkway and the Interstate 80 interchange will forever now be known as the CHP Officer Kirk "Hollywood" Griess Memorial Highway.
Assemblyman Jim Frazier, D-Fairfield, who introduced the resolution that paved the way for the dedication, chuckled at the legislative fight to include the nickname "Hollywood" on the sign, and quipped that it is his greatest legislative achievement.

(https://solanopublictransitfans.neocities.org/IMG_0506.JPG)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahuenga,_California

Here is the original name for Hollywood, California and its Cahuenga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Freeway

Here is the Original Hollywood Freeway before I-505 used the name for a different reason.

(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images170/ca-170_sb_exit_010_05.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1260/5107732838_dd173f1044_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AM
The Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: roadman65 on November 20, 2024, 08:16:27 AM
In Orange County, FL people so much referred to Old Dixie Highway as Orange Avenue the county renamed their part of Old Dixie as Orange Avenue.

Both Old Dixie Highway and Orange Avenue were both CR 527 so that is why the reference. However both roads were misaligned at Zell Drive until the current realignment connected the two directly adding a bridge over the CSX tracks, and yet people considered the turns at Zell as part of Orange Avenue.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 20, 2024, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.
Yes I had relatives from LA when they visit me here in Fairfield and they are on a tour from Davis to San Francisco I heard them refer to I-505 as "The 505 Freeway" because I-505 sounds like it belongs in Southern California. But locals call it I-505 or Highway 505.  Also technically Vacaville is west of Sacramento.

Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: DTComposer on November 20, 2024, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

The San Diego Freeway name officially includes both all of I-405 and I-5 from Irvine to CA-94 in San Diego, so it's technically correct (although I don't recall seeing the San Diego Freeway name being signed on I-5).
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 21, 2024, 10:49:36 AM
https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/before-the-carmageddon-a-photographic-look-at-the-construction-of-5-socal-freeways

It turns out the Hollywood freeways original name is Cahuenga Freeway before Caltrans renamed it the Hollywood Freeway for the LA district. 

QuoteConstruction for the new Cahuenga Freeway causes a traffic jam in the pass, 1939. The Cahuenga Freeway opened in 1940, connecting Hollywood to the San Fernando Valley. In the 1950s, the freeway was widened, extended to downtown Los Angeles, and renamed the Hollywood Freeway. Courtesy of the Los Angeles Examiner Collection, USC Libraries.

https://lamag.com/news/citydig-when-trolley-tracks-divided-the-101

Also the Cahuenga Freeway had a trolley line at its median before it was renamed Hollywood Freeway now "The 170" and "The 101" freeways by current locals. Yes this is 5 decades before I-105 had a light rail line at its median. 
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: bing101 on November 21, 2024, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on November 20, 2024, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

The San Diego Freeway name officially includes both all of I-405 and I-5 from Irvine to CA-94 in San Diego, so it's technically correct (although I don't recall seeing the San Diego Freeway name being signed on I-5).
Interestingly I-405 Los Angeles was originally going to be named as Sepulveda Freeway.

https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ca/i-405/

http://www.gribblenation.org/2019/05/interstate-405-carmageddon-on-san-diego.html

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/how-sepulveda-canyon-became-the-405

That's until the entire freeway of I-405 was completed from the El Toro Y to Sylmar this is when San Diego freeway became the name now simply as "The 405" by current locals.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: DTComposer on November 21, 2024, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 21, 2024, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on November 20, 2024, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

The San Diego Freeway name officially includes both all of I-405 and I-5 from Irvine to CA-94 in San Diego, so it's technically correct (although I don't recall seeing the San Diego Freeway name being signed on I-5).
Interestingly I-405 Los Angeles was originally going to be named as Sepulveda Freeway.

https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ca/i-405/

http://www.gribblenation.org/2019/05/interstate-405-carmageddon-on-san-diego.html

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/how-sepulveda-canyon-became-the-405

That's until the entire freeway of I-405 was completed from the El Toro Y to Sylmar this is when San Diego freeway became the name now simply as "The 405" by current locals.

To be completely accurate, Caltrans named it the San Diego Freeway in 1954, nearly 15 years before the Orange County section of I-405 was completed:

http://cahighways.org/ROUTE405.html

http://cahighways.org/maps-sc-fwy-pt2.html
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: gonealookin on November 21, 2024, 09:42:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

Quote from: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PMIn California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).

Sigh.  We tried twice to tell you and you still whiffed on it.  Today's SFGate article on SR 1 flooding (https://www.sfgate.com/northcoast/article/highway-1-closed-mendocino-flooding-storm-impact-19935430.php)

Quote from: Matt LaFever, North Coast Contributing Editor of SFGateCalifornia's iconic Highway 1, also known as the Pacific Coast Highway, is fully closed in Mendocino County due to flooding. Officials announced this afternoon that the closure is "north of Point Arena near the Garcia River," with no estimated reopening time.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: chrisg69911 on November 21, 2024, 09:54:21 PM
Radio news reporters call the I-95 approach to the GWB "80/95" even though I-80 ends at its intersection with I-95
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Quillz on November 22, 2024, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: gonealookin on November 21, 2024, 09:42:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

Quote from: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PMIn California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).

Sigh.  We tried twice to tell you and you still whiffed on it.  Today's SFGate article on SR 1 flooding (https://www.sfgate.com/northcoast/article/highway-1-closed-mendocino-flooding-storm-impact-19935430.php)

Quote from: Matt LaFever, North Coast Contributing Editor of SFGateCalifornia's iconic Highway 1, also known as the Pacific Coast Highway, is fully closed in Mendocino County due to flooding. Officials announced this afternoon that the closure is "north of Point Arena near the Garcia River," with no estimated reopening time.

Good timing on my part. Was just up there about a month ago. Planning to go back to the redwoods in January since it's usually the rainy season. Might have to detour. (Although the last time that part of the highway flooded, it reopened fairly quickly).
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: plain on December 03, 2024, 05:02:17 AM
I've heard people refer to I-195 in Richmond as the Powhite Pkwy, even though the Parkway doesn't begin until just south of VA 147 where the interstate branches off of the physical roadway.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: DTComposer on December 03, 2024, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: gonealookin on November 21, 2024, 09:42:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

Quote from: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PMIn California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).

Sigh.  We tried twice to tell you and you still whiffed on it.  Today's SFGate article on SR 1 flooding (https://www.sfgate.com/northcoast/article/highway-1-closed-mendocino-flooding-storm-impact-19935430.php)

Quote from: Matt LaFever, North Coast Contributing Editor of SFGateCalifornia's iconic Highway 1, also known as the Pacific Coast Highway, is fully closed in Mendocino County due to flooding. Officials announced this afternoon that the closure is "north of Point Arena near the Garcia River," with no estimated reopening time.

Even more annoying considering that's a Bay Area news site, and the reporter is from the North Coast (a Humboldt State Cal Poly Humboldt grad). I'd understand a little more if it was an L.A. Times article.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: roadman65 on December 03, 2024, 02:31:28 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on November 21, 2024, 09:54:21 PMRadio news reporters call the I-95 approach to the GWB "80/95" even though I-80 ends at its intersection with I-95

Some people would call Route 139 in Jersey City as one and nine when giving out traffic on air for the Holland Tunnel. There were two approaches to the Holland. The Turnpike ( Newark Bay Extension) or the One and Nine.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: boilerup25 on December 19, 2024, 05:43:25 PM
More New Jersey here:

Calling US 46 in Ledgewood between I-80 and NJ 10 "Route 10"
Calling NJ 495 "Route 3"
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: TheStranger on December 19, 2024, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2024, 02:31:28 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on November 21, 2024, 09:54:21 PMRadio news reporters call the I-95 approach to the GWB "80/95" even though I-80 ends at its intersection with I-95

Some people would call Route 139 in Jersey City as one and nine when giving out traffic on air for the Holland Tunnel. There were two approaches to the Holland. The Turnpike ( Newark Bay Extension) or the One and Nine.

IIRC, 139 is former (Business) 1 and 9 though.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Big John on December 19, 2024, 06:23:34 PM
WI 441 gets an unknown promotion: https://www.nbc26.com/appleton/trash-continuing-to-accumulate-along-i-441-wisdot-monitoring-the-situation
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Takumi on December 19, 2024, 07:18:13 PM
When my dad lived in Greensboro in the early 2000s, he worked on one of the early segments of I-73 there and knew about the then-upcoming I-840, but thought the latter was an existing surface road. I don't remember which road he thought was 840, but it wasn't even in the area of the metro where it ended up getting built. I think it was a road in the Jamestown area, possibly what was then High Point Road, now Gate City Boulevard.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: democraticnole on December 19, 2024, 09:08:32 PM
Many people in Tampa incorrectly call the I-275 bridge over Tampa Bay the "Howard Franklin Bridge" when it is the "Howard Frankland Bridge."
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Rothman on December 19, 2024, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: democraticnole on December 19, 2024, 09:08:32 PMMany people in Tampa incorrectly call the I-275 bridge over Tampa Bay the "Howard Franklin Bridge" when it is the "Howard Frankland Bridge."

Not sure I'd be able to tell the difference when spoken, especially down there.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: cwf1701 on December 24, 2024, 11:35:19 PM
In Detroit, a lot of the mile roads have alternative names and  xx mile (road) is often used instead of the name on the street signs. the most common example is McNichols the correct name and 6 Mile Road is what most people call it inside the city limits of Detroit, Big Beaver/Metropolitan Parkway is often referred to as 16 mile road, and Hall road/M-59 is often called 20 Mile road
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: GaryV on December 25, 2024, 07:11:16 AM
I've never heard "20 Mile" - maybe because no part of it is actually called that.

Most of the others, from 15 Mile north, often get called their "Macomb name" in Oakland County. Plus McNichols.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: JustDrive on December 28, 2024, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

There is a sign on SB 101 in Pismo Beach calling it the "Pacific Coast Highway," in addition to all sign blades on Dolliver Street (CA 1) within city limits having both names. Oddly enough, you start seeing Cabrillo Highway signs south of Grover Beach.
Title: Re: Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 28, 2024, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: JustDrive on December 28, 2024, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

There is a sign on SB 101 in Pismo Beach calling it the "Pacific Coast Highway," in addition to all sign blades on Dolliver Street (CA 1) within city limits having both names. Oddly enough, you start seeing Cabrillo Highway signs south of Grover Beach.

Having to account for Pismo Beach street signage every time I write about 1 in the area on Facebook is a PIA.