UNC offers coaching job to former Patriots coach Bill Belichick
The 72-year-old Belichick, who won six Super Bowls with the Patriots, has never coached in college football.
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College job to go along with the 24 year old girlfriend.
*Belichick shakes cane at those stupid kids who won't listen to him and get off his lawn*
The topic title is misleading because it is not even approved by the UNC Board of Trustees.
Having stated that, if this happens, this might actually get me interested in going to a Virginia Tech game when they play UNC.
New Englanders watching the bloated corpse of a team he left behind are happy for him...
He will accept it only if UNC agrees to his terms - which he reportedly outlayed in a 400 page proposal that would require them to devote significanly more resources to the football program.
This is truly a terrible idea for UNC. He's 72 years old, wasn't great to end his career in New England, and wants his kid to succeed him.
I really hope this happens because no matter how it goes it will be entertaining.
Between this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.
Quote from: Henry on December 10, 2024, 10:44:30 PMBetween this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.
Incredibly few pro coaches make it in the NCAA. Recruiting is a whole different animal to dealing with pros. Examples off the top of my head - Dave Wannstedt, Charlie Weis, Chan Gailey, Bill Callahan, etc.
Wow. Just wow.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on December 11, 2024, 02:58:59 AMQuote from: Henry on December 10, 2024, 10:44:30 PMBetween this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.
Incredibly few pro coaches make it in the NCAA. Recruiting is a whole different animal to dealing with pros. Examples off the top of my head - Dave Wannstedt, Charlie Weis, Chan Gailey, Bill Callahan, etc.
Pete Carroll was an obvious exception. And I think NFL coaches could learn a lot from what he did at USC. Recruit your a$$ off and make the concepts simple. Too many NFL coaches think that you can win with scheme. That just doesn't really work with 18-22 year olds who won in high school because they were so much better than anyone else.
Putting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.
Quote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.
Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AMQuote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.
Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)
Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 11, 2024, 12:06:45 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AMQuote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.
Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)
Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.
They had to. They were under a court order. Anyway, the big schools are running things now.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 01:07:30 PMQuote from: SectorZ on December 11, 2024, 12:06:45 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AMQuote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.
Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)
Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.
They had to. They were under a court order. Anyway, the big schools are running things now.
I'm fine with the NCAA being running into the ground or irrelevance. It was a long time coming way before NIL was a reality.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 11, 2024, 01:12:16 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 01:07:30 PMQuote from: SectorZ on December 11, 2024, 12:06:45 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on December 11, 2024, 10:52:33 AMQuote from: davewiecking on December 11, 2024, 10:36:56 AMPutting a college team together is much more like putting a pro team together than it used to be. NIL$ talks.
Except college players aren't tied to a team via a draft (so you have to attract them) and can transfer after year one (so you have to keep them.)
Amazing with the NIL $ that the NCAA still left the wide open transfer system in place. I swear Charlie Baker was hired to run the NCAA purposefully into the ground.
They had to. They were under a court order. Anyway, the big schools are running things now.
I'm fine with the NCAA being running into the ground or irrelevance. It was a long time coming way before NIL was a reality.
The NCAA has been poorly run. It was poorly run way before Charlie Baker got there. Basically its good for putting on championships and a recruiting calendar together. That's about it.
Now the title of the thread is accurate. (https://goheels.com/news/2024/12/11/football-icon-bill-belichick-named-north-carolina-head-coach)
Wow. Never thought it would actually happen.
Chapel Bill is now a thing.
It's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm
I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 AMQuote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm
I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.
What do you mean by "college habits?" I think college coaches are really good at coaching college athletes - many have adapted quite well to the new landscape.
I just don't know if BB can teach NFL-like concepts to athletes who are less knowledgeable than NFL players. Furthermore, does he know how to motivate these athletes and keep them engaged even if they aren't playing.
And let's see what staff he buildings. If he simply brings back his NFL staff, I don't think it works at all. He needs to add people who understand college football better.
IMO he should have just retired
Quote from: epzik8 on December 12, 2024, 01:23:07 PMIMO he should have just retired
There is absolutely zero chance I will be working at the age of 72.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on December 12, 2024, 11:36:42 AMQuote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 AMQuote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm
I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.
What do you mean by "college habits?" I think college coaches are really good at coaching college athletes - many have adapted quite well to the new landscape.
I just don't know if BB can teach NFL-like concepts to athletes who are less knowledgeable than NFL players. Furthermore, does he know how to motivate these athletes and keep them engaged even if they aren't playing.
And let's see what staff he buildings. If he simply brings back his NFL staff, I don't think it works at all. He needs to add people who understand college football better.
College habits as in coaching under the rules of the old landscape.
It really sounds like he's getting a job for his kid. He's 72 and his career didn't end that well in New England, he's never coached college football. I don't think this is a good idea for UNC.
Quote from: Henry on December 10, 2024, 10:44:30 PMBetween this and Juan Soto signing the richest contract ever (with a New York team, but not the one you'd expect!), it's already becoming the most interesting winter in the sports world. Although the guy has it ass-backward, as usually it would be great college coaches going on to the NFL (Bill Walsh, Barry Switzer, etc.), and not the other way around. Nonetheless, we'll see how it all unfolds next season, and if his abundant success in Foxboro can translate to Chapel Hill. As it's often said, time will tell.
I'll just say that even if they win the World Series the Mets are one of the most stupidly run teams in sports. I hope he turns out to be a bust for them.
Quote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 04:46:41 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on December 12, 2024, 11:36:42 AMQuote from: SectorZ on December 12, 2024, 09:42:42 AMQuote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 12, 2024, 06:48:21 AMIt's hard to know if he will succeed. His age, lack of college coaching experience, and the implosion of the traditional college football model are huge wildcards. It's a real question as to how he will handle the transfer portal and NIL. But I'm sure he's thought of all this, and his cachet will be beneficial for recruiting and fundraising. BTW, I would love to read his 400-page manifesto that led to his hiring mm
I think him never coaching college before helps. He doesn't walk into the job with all the college habits one had in the old landscape. He's old but apparently not obsolete.
What do you mean by "college habits?" I think college coaches are really good at coaching college athletes - many have adapted quite well to the new landscape.
I just don't know if BB can teach NFL-like concepts to athletes who are less knowledgeable than NFL players. Furthermore, does he know how to motivate these athletes and keep them engaged even if they aren't playing.
And let's see what staff he buildings. If he simply brings back his NFL staff, I don't think it works at all. He needs to add people who understand college football better.
College habits as in coaching under the rules of the old landscape.
OK thanks for that. But as I said, there are plenty of experienced college coaches who have adapted just fine to the new landscape.
As far as celebrity college coaches go, Prime at Colorado has been a roaring success (don't argue, 1-11 to 9-3 in two years doesn't lie). Belichick is 100x the football coach Prime is. I think it's a very good hire.
Quote from: thspfc on December 12, 2024, 07:36:26 PMAs far as celebrity college coaches go, Prime at Colorado has been a roaring success (don't argue, 1-11 to 9-3 in two years doesn't lie). Belichick is 100x the football coach Prime is. I think it's a very good hire.
Prime is a fantastic recruiter, a good coach, and has surrounded himself with an excellent staff. BB is a better football coach no doubt, but IMO he is going to need to get some people who understand and who have taught at the college level and not just bringing the old Patriot band back together. College football is different.
The hiring of Michael Lombardi is as UNC's GM is an example of what would concern me if I were a UNC fan. He has been hooked in with BB for most of his career, but when he has had any responsibility on his own, he's been pretty mediocre if not really bad. He hasn't even worked in football for almost a decade.
He was definitely like Bobby Bowden (RIP) in his last few years in terms of his personnel choices. Loyalty and kinship appeared to matter over winning, especially since 2019. He will definitely need to hire assistants who are well versed in the college game.
NIL has changed the game more than anybody knows. It has turned college sports into semipro sports. The liberal transfer portal has weaponized the series of one-year contracts that used to empower the coaches..
You still have to recruit and it remains to be seen whether Belichick can do so, but let's face it, there's more money on Tobacco Road for football than basketball. Football is King.
Some in the sports media world are now wondering how long BB will last in college, as the head coaching market in the NFL remains underwhelming and he has outs on his contract should a team come knocking.