TDOT is in the finishing stages of the I-55/Crump Blvd. interchange revamp in Memphis.
A TDOT rep told me the interchange should fully open sometime this spring.
They've already put up signage -- including signs showing all FIVE U.S. shields on Crump Blvd.
(https://i.imgur.com/a1zXz5E.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NX4DDmN.jpeg)
Oh, good. Another thread on this project as it's apparently wrapping up.
^^ The arrows on that first sign are hideous (and I'd suspect that style is not MUTCD-compliant)...
Quote from: froggie on March 10, 2025, 11:44:37 AM^^ The arrows on that first sign are hideous (and I'd suspect that style is not MUTCD-compliant)...
It's definitely noncompliant. WTF were they thinking? Plus, I'm surprised that there's no option lane at that split, assuming that the signage is correct in that regard.
I have never seen a sign with five US Highway designations posted on it. The most I have seen is four US Highway designations on the same sign (on the US 12/14/18/151 Beltline Highway here in Madison between Exits 258 and 261).
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on March 10, 2025, 02:33:44 PMI have never seen a sign with five US Highway designations posted on it. The most I have seen is four US Highway designations on the same sign (on the US 12/14/18/151 Beltline Highway here in Madison between Exits 258 and 261).
There are some along I-65 in Montgomery, AL:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3241201,-86.335573,3a,15y,33.75h,101.23t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sP5nuJXxAoU3FOySWkZQq_g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-11.225946635221987%26panoid%3DP5nuJXxAoU3FOySWkZQq_g%26yaw%3D33.7523017067273!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Quote from: ericlipford on March 09, 2025, 09:16:02 PMTDOT is in the finishing stages of the I-55/Crump Blvd. interchange revamp in Memphis.
A TDOT rep told me the interchange should fully open sometime this spring.
They've already put up signage -- including signs showing all FIVE U.S. shields on Crump Blvd.
Tried to post images -- but they're not embedding for some reason.
Link is below and if the photos show up, they'll be below that.
https://imgur.com/a/Cxy9OuM
(https://imgur.com/a1zXz5E)
(https://imgur.com/NX4DDmN)
Well, at least their not clearview. The gantries, themselves, appear identical to ones used in MA in the seventies. Good to see, a standard truss gantry for a change, instead of ubiquitous mono tubes.
I cannot read it. I need my Clearview......
On a more serious note: Other than the licensing costs, why does everyone hate Clearview so much?
Quote from: froggie on March 10, 2025, 11:44:37 AM^^ The arrows on that first sign are hideous (and I'd suspect that style is not MUTCD-compliant)...
Agreed, plus on a shared APL style sign panel (the use of which is also questionable here) the Exit Only arrow should be pointing upwards.
I agree with bwana39. What's wrong with Clearview signage anyway? I don't mind it.
Quote from: bwana39 on March 13, 2025, 02:46:37 PMOn a more serious note: Other than the licensing costs, why does everyone hate Clearview so much?
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on March 13, 2025, 04:18:09 PMI agree with bwana39. What's wrong with Clearview signage anyway? I don't mind it.
From what I recall hearing, a lot of the earlier Clearview signage wasn't designed super well, and had replaced some much better-looking signage in the process.
Plus, there's always a certain amount "it's different and I hate it because of that" and "it's new and I hate it because of that" among any large enough group of people.
Why is it hated? Frankly it (the whole clearview deal) was unnecessary. The original FHWA fonts were developed in the forties and early fifties. The idea was to "standardize" signage, and fonts at that time. The deviation away from that, was wrong. Personally have viewed a lot of "modern" cluttered signage erected in Texas, since roughly 2000. What existed prior, was frankly better.
(https://i.imgur.com/a1zXz5E.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NX4DDmN.jpeg)
Is the speed limit still 25 on the curve or was it raised back to 45?
Quote from: bwana39 on March 13, 2025, 02:46:37 PMOn a more serious note: Other than the licensing costs, why does everyone hate Clearview so much?
Because it's ugly, particularly the numerals, especially when the guidelines aren't followed (and they often aren't, because states that use Clearview tend to go all-in on Clearview even though it's only supposed to be used for destination legends).
Quote from: vdeane on March 13, 2025, 09:13:30 PMQuote from: bwana39 on March 13, 2025, 02:46:37 PMOn a more serious note: Other than the licensing costs, why does everyone hate Clearview so much?
Because it's ugly, particularly the numerals, especially when the guidelines aren't followed (and they often aren't, because states that use Clearview tend to go all-in on Clearview even though it's only supposed to be used for destination legends).
Weren't Clearview's benefits were overstated when compared with Highway Gothic?
Quote from: Tom958 on March 13, 2025, 07:54:25 PM(https://i.imgur.com/a1zXz5E.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NX4DDmN.jpeg)
If this were North Carolina, those US shields would be on two rows versus what's shown.
Quote from: PColumbus73 on March 14, 2025, 12:34:00 PMWeren't Clearview's benefits were overstated when compared with Highway Gothic?
That too, though it's not the first thing I think of when I see something like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8408482,-78.7930542,3a,24y,173h,94.23t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sUO2Vzu09UKQ8F_ZqOeBMTw!2e0!5s20170801T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.225463761211401%26panoid%3DUO2Vzu09UKQ8F_ZqOeBMTw%26yaw%3D172.99504325782723!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D).
Quote from: vdeane on March 14, 2025, 12:47:03 PMQuote from: PColumbus73 on March 14, 2025, 12:34:00 PMWeren't Clearview's benefits were overstated when compared with Highway Gothic?
That too, though it's not the first thing I think of when I see something like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8408482,-78.7930542,3a,24y,173h,94.23t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sUO2Vzu09UKQ8F_ZqOeBMTw!2e0!5s20170801T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.225463761211401%26panoid%3DUO2Vzu09UKQ8F_ZqOeBMTw%26yaw%3D172.99504325782723!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D).
Virginia and Illinois might be the only states that do Clearview well. Pennsylvania Clearview is on par with everyday Oklahoma
Quote from: PColumbus73 on March 14, 2025, 07:59:29 PMQuote from: vdeane on March 14, 2025, 12:47:03 PMQuote from: PColumbus73 on March 14, 2025, 12:34:00 PMWeren't Clearview's benefits were overstated when compared with Highway Gothic?
That too, though it's not the first thing I think of when I see something like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8408482,-78.7930542,3a,24y,173h,94.23t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sUO2Vzu09UKQ8F_ZqOeBMTw!2e0!5s20170801T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-4.225463761211401%26panoid%3DUO2Vzu09UKQ8F_ZqOeBMTw%26yaw%3D172.99504325782723!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D).
Virginia and Illinois might be the only states that do Clearview well. Pennsylvania Clearview is on par with everyday Oklahoma
I can't say I've seen much complaints about Alabama's Clearview, though I'm only aware of maybe one sign in the entire state with a Clearview shield as well, so...
Same goes for Kentucky, in regards to their use of Clearview.