https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE_DwiDumuP/?igsh=MXQwZHI0dTI3azJybg==
Don't know where this location was, but it's kind of funny, but screwing the people who need the machine for cash.
That forklift operator is going to wind up with a ton of worthless ink covered bills.
I'm having visions of the video of the song Cabriolet by the Russian group Leningrad. :bigass:
Quote from: kernals12 on March 28, 2025, 08:28:23 PMThat forklift operator is going to wind up with a ton of worthless ink covered bills.
Doubtful. Ink dye packs are usually added manually, by the tellers, to bags of cash given to robbers. Cash loaded into automatic cash dispensing machines like ATMs is generally packed into locked cassettes (which are then put in the locked machine). The cassettes are spring-loaded and tightly packed so that the machine can pull bills out one by one—they operate very much like a napkin dispenser at a restaurant. There just isn't any room in the cassette to accommodate a dye pack.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 29, 2025, 02:06:33 PMQuote from: kernals12 on March 28, 2025, 08:28:23 PMThat forklift operator is going to wind up with a ton of worthless ink covered bills.
Doubtful. Ink dye packs are usually added manually, by the tellers, to bags of cash given to robbers. Cash loaded into automatic cash dispensing machines like ATMs is generally packed into locked cassettes (which are then put in the locked machine). The cassettes are spring-loaded and tightly packed so that the machine can pull bills out one by one—they operate very much like a napkin dispenser at a restaurant. There just isn't any room in the cassette to accommodate a dye pack.
The internet says ATM machines have die packs
Quote from: kernals12The internet says ATM machines have die packs
Does the "die pack" look like this?
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/633683/files/51542729/chessex-polyhedral-dice-set-vortex-purple-gold-7.jpg)
Was he forklift certified? Can't have an unlicensed MHE operator running around.
Quote from: kernals12 on March 29, 2025, 05:11:30 PMThe internet says ATM machines have die packs
That's cool. My eyes when I was watching the vault refill them at work said they didn't.
I'm not saying some machines don't have dye packets, but none that I've seen worked on have had them.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2025, 05:45:21 PMI'm not saying some machines don't have dye packets, but not that I've seen worked on have had them.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they existed somewhere, but they're definitely not the norm. They would be sort of impractical. The whole point of using cassettes is so that they can be refilled at a more secure location and brought to the machine, where the only thing that needs to be done is swapping an empty box out for a full one. Inevitably there will be a legitimate reason to open a cassette with money in it (replacing a not-quite-empty cassette, clearing a jam, emptying a machine that will be offline for a while), which would mean you'd need to have some kind of mechanism to prevent the dye pack from going off. Which would obviate the purpose of the dye pack since a halfway-smart thief could learn how to use that mechanism as well. It would add a lot of complexity for not a lot of additional security.
With something like this you're far better off installing measures that slow the thief down enough that cameras can get an ID on them or someone passing by can see them and call the cops. You could do that by just locking the door to the ATM, the cassette to the ATM, and the cassette door closed.
Quote from: hotdogPi on March 29, 2025, 05:15:26 PMQuote from: kernals12The internet says ATM machines have die packs
Does the "die pack" look like this?
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/633683/files/51542729/chessex-polyhedral-dice-set-vortex-purple-gold-7.jpg)
No. That's clearly a dice pack.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 28, 2025, 08:19:26 PMhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/DE_DwiDumuP/?igsh=MXQwZHI0dTI3azJybg==
Don't know where this location was, but it's kind of funny, but screwing the people who need the machine for cash.
Nowhere near the first or last time this happens.
Quote from: bmorrill on March 29, 2025, 12:54:33 PMI'm having visions of the video of the song Cabriolet by the Russian group Leningrad. :bigass:
I prefer "Samaya Lyubimaya," if only because it shows how Russian is much more efficient at naming in-laws.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 29, 2025, 02:06:33 PMQuote from: kernals12 on March 28, 2025, 08:28:23 PMThat forklift operator is going to wind up with a ton of worthless ink covered bills.
Doubtful. Ink dye packs are usually added manually, by the tellers, to bags of cash given to robbers. Cash loaded into automatic cash dispensing machines like ATMs is generally packed into locked cassettes (which are then put in the locked machine). The cassettes are spring-loaded and tightly packed so that the machine can pull bills out one by one—they operate very much like a napkin dispenser at a restaurant. There just isn't any room in the cassette to accommodate a dye pack.
Also, ATM cash is normally edge marked with recorded marks (you've seen them). If someone is found to be in possession of a stack of bills with all the same edge marks, the marks are compared with recorded marks of bills that are reported 'short'.
Mike
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2025, 05:25:00 PMWas he forklift certified? Can't have an unlicensed MHE operator running around.
Hope he wore his seat belt properly and didn't just sit on the buckle.
Quote from: Road Hog on March 30, 2025, 10:25:00 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2025, 05:25:00 PMWas he forklift certified? Can't have an unlicensed MHE operator running around.
Hope he wore his seat belt properly and didn't just sit on the buckle.
Of course only after completing a daily pre-use safety inspection sheet.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 29, 2025, 08:14:15 PMQuote from: hotdogPi on March 29, 2025, 05:15:26 PMQuote from: kernals12The internet says ATM machines have die packs
Does the "die pack" look like this?
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/633683/files/51542729/chessex-polyhedral-dice-set-vortex-purple-gold-7.jpg)
No. That's clearly a dice pack.
HICKORY DICKORY DOCK! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Quote from: mgk920 on March 30, 2025, 10:16:29 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on March 29, 2025, 02:06:33 PMQuote from: kernals12 on March 28, 2025, 08:28:23 PMThat forklift operator is going to wind up with a ton of worthless ink covered bills.
Doubtful. Ink dye packs are usually added manually, by the tellers, to bags of cash given to robbers. Cash loaded into automatic cash dispensing machines like ATMs is generally packed into locked cassettes (which are then put in the locked machine). The cassettes are spring-loaded and tightly packed so that the machine can pull bills out one by one—they operate very much like a napkin dispenser at a restaurant. There just isn't any room in the cassette to accommodate a dye pack.
Also, ATM cash is normally edge marked with recorded marks (you've seen them). If someone is found to be in possession of a stack of bills with all the same edge marks, the marks are compared with recorded marks of bills that are reported 'short'.
Mike
Oh, that's what causes those? Since the whole purpose of currency is to give it to someone else eventually, it is annoying when people permanently mark it, no matter what their reason is. (Tellers that write, e.g. "17" on a bill to show that it's a stack of 17 bills are also annoying, because it's not likely that's going to be the 17th bill in a stack ever again, but everyone else that ever gets that bill has to have a 17 on it.)
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 30, 2025, 11:41:07 PMQuote from: mgk920 on March 30, 2025, 10:16:29 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on March 29, 2025, 02:06:33 PMQuote from: kernals12 on March 28, 2025, 08:28:23 PMThat forklift operator is going to wind up with a ton of worthless ink covered bills.
Doubtful. Ink dye packs are usually added manually, by the tellers, to bags of cash given to robbers. Cash loaded into automatic cash dispensing machines like ATMs is generally packed into locked cassettes (which are then put in the locked machine). The cassettes are spring-loaded and tightly packed so that the machine can pull bills out one by one—they operate very much like a napkin dispenser at a restaurant. There just isn't any room in the cassette to accommodate a dye pack.
Also, ATM cash is normally edge marked with recorded marks (you've seen them). If someone is found to be in possession of a stack of bills with all the same edge marks, the marks are compared with recorded marks of bills that are reported 'short'.
Mike
Oh, that's what causes those? Since the whole purpose of currency is to give it to someone else eventually, it is annoying when people permanently mark it, no matter what their reason is. (Tellers that write, e.g. "17" on a bill to show that it's a stack of 17 bills are also annoying, because it's not likely that's going to be the 17th bill in a stack ever again, but everyone else that ever gets that bill has to have a 17 on it.)
Or the Let's Go Brandon catch phrase that Trump followers were stamping into bills to let America know that some people hate certain individuals.
I've seen that and other political messages on bills I've gotten collecting tolls in Florida on the former cash toll roads.
more often than not, a number that is scribbled on a bill is put there by a low level manager at some local business somewhere (ie, a fast food joint) during the closing count. It is makes this go a little bit faster for him or her.
Mike
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2025, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: Road Hog on March 30, 2025, 10:25:00 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2025, 05:25:00 PMWas he forklift certified? Can't have an unlicensed MHE operator running around.
Hope he wore his seat belt properly and didn't just sit on the buckle.
Of course only after completing a daily pre-use safety inspection sheet.
Not only for the forklift but also for the propane.
Quote from: Road Hog on March 31, 2025, 07:28:38 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2025, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: Road Hog on March 30, 2025, 10:25:00 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2025, 05:25:00 PMWas he forklift certified? Can't have an unlicensed MHE operator running around.
Hope he wore his seat belt properly and didn't just sit on the buckle.
Of course only after completing a daily pre-use safety inspection sheet.
Not only for the forklift but also for the propane.
Hopefully they wore their eye protection when decoupling the battery from the charging station.