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Title: The Road Zipper
Post by: roadman65 on April 08, 2025, 04:18:17 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2NrofbVz5kNi16vNA?g_st=ac

Google captures the infamous device the slides over the Zipper Barrier.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: pderocco on April 08, 2025, 02:36:13 PM
Looks like it's just parked there.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 08, 2025, 02:38:50 PM
This is a road zipper (https://www.mariowiki.com/Dash_Panel#Diddy_Kong_Racing_.2F_Diddy_Kong_Racing_DS).

(https://www.mariowiki.com/images/9/92/Zipper_Ground_DKRDS.png?4519f)
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 08, 2025, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 08, 2025, 04:18:17 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/2NrofbVz5kNi16vNA?g_st=ac

Google captures the infamous device the slides over the Zipper Barrier.
Quote from: pderocco on April 08, 2025, 02:36:13 PMLooks like it's just parked there.

It is. GSV has many images of the zipper machine at the 3 DRPA bridges which uses the zipper barrier, which would be parked at either end of its zone. It sits out in the open, not in a garage.

If one looks at the latest GSV for I-76 in NJ, they would see two zipper barrier movers which were used for a construction project, in which the barrier would need to be shifted two lanes to accommodate weekday rush hour traffic. https://maps.app.goo.gl/oogxTdFtN6ya7Sev7?g_st=ac

(BTW...note the logo on the equipment. The yellow line representing the zipper is reversed from the actual zipper formation)
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 08, 2025, 09:44:51 PM
Here's a couple random zipper shots in the San Diego area on the I-15 express lanes. Notice the special warning that appears on the VMS when they are in operation.

(https://i.postimg.cc/2SMvNF0X/PXL-20230719-181940656.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KYTTGkVc/PXL-20230719-182751526.jpg)
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: pderocco on April 10, 2025, 02:47:08 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 08, 2025, 02:48:53 PM(BTW...note the logo on the equipment. The yellow line representing the zipper is reversed from the actual zipper formation)
Wouldn't surprise me if it was correct on the other side.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: Rothman on April 10, 2025, 07:37:10 AM
Hm.  I'm going to a demonstration later this month.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 10, 2025, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 10, 2025, 07:37:10 AMHm.  I'm going to a demonstration later this month.

Bring back samples.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: Big John on April 10, 2025, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 10, 2025, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 10, 2025, 07:37:10 AMHm.  I'm going to a demonstration later this month.

Bring back samples.
knowing that a 4' concrete jersey barrier segment weighs 1620 pounds.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: RobbieL2415 on April 11, 2025, 02:19:13 PM
Equally as curious is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

It looks like it could easily be abused as a free entrance to the Ben Franklin Bridge.
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: epzik8 on April 11, 2025, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on April 11, 2025, 02:19:13 PMEqually as curious is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

It looks like it could easily be abused as a free entrance to the Ben Franklin Bridge.

This is golden
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: pderocco on April 11, 2025, 08:33:56 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on April 11, 2025, 02:19:13 PMEqually as curious is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

It looks like it could easily be abused as a free entrance to the Ben Franklin Bridge.
Looks like that extra lane is intended for access to Fulton Pl, and they should extend the line of cones (or put up a Jersey barrier) to restrict it to that purpose. I mean, who (except for the GSV car) would go through the tollbooths to get to Fulton Pl?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YNDuLPJtFnpij8QZA (https://maps.app.goo.gl/YNDuLPJtFnpij8QZA)
Title: Re: The Road Zipper
Post by: mrsman on May 09, 2025, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: pderocco on April 11, 2025, 08:33:56 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on April 11, 2025, 02:19:13 PMEqually as curious is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9488538,-75.1183286,3a,66.8y,204.06h,79.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.975358138423175%26panoid%3Dj4RMBxgGdsHQ-Z3-hmSRtA%26yaw%3D204.0603183925115!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

It looks like it could easily be abused as a free entrance to the Ben Franklin Bridge.
Looks like that extra lane is intended for access to Fulton Pl, and they should extend the line of cones (or put up a Jersey barrier) to restrict it to that purpose. I mean, who (except for the GSV car) would go through the tollbooths to get to Fulton Pl?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YNDuLPJtFnpij8QZA (https://maps.app.goo.gl/YNDuLPJtFnpij8QZA)

I don't think that section of Fulton Pl was meant for general traffic, probably limited to police and DRPA official vehicles, and emergencies.  They probably gave GSV special permission to utilize it so that it can be recorded for the cameras.

The Baltimore Harbor Tunnel (and the FSK bridge, before its collapse) did have exits that were on the same side of the  water, but still imposed a toll.  So why exit off Childs street and pay the toll, unless somebody else was paying, of course.

There was some EZ-Pass service center near there (Harbor Tunnel) that gave customers a free pass through the tunnel, becuase you couldn't realistically access the service center without going through the toll booths.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Baltimore,+MD/@39.2407884,-76.5872655,3a,59.1y,93.55h,86.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqaFJik7_CUdWfisDiBkZ5A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D3.4630274932273295%26panoid%3DqaFJik7_CUdWfisDiBkZ5A%26yaw%3D93.54901684764204!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x89c803aed6f483b7:0x44896a84223e758!8m2!3d39.2905023!4d-76.6104072!16zL20vMDk0anY?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D