Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 13, 2025, 09:13:51 AM**Superhero movies. I have no idea what the Marvel Comic Universe is and really don't care to learn.
**Golf. Used to play it and watch it - now I do neither.
**Video Games. We had a wii when the kids were younger, and that's the last time I played anything.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 13, 2025, 10:03:42 AMcelebrity gossip
Quote from: Rothman on April 13, 2025, 10:22:37 AMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 13, 2025, 09:13:51 AM**Superhero movies. I have no idea what the Marvel Comic Universe is and really don't care to learn.
**Golf. Used to play it and watch it - now I do neither.
**Video Games. We had a wii when the kids were younger, and that's the last time I played anything.
I enjoyed the first set of Marvel movies, but then Disney made too many series and just bad movies. Doctor Strange and the Whatzithoozit of Madness or whatever it was called did it in for me. My kids will get me into a show here and there, but I'm not half as compelled as I once was to watch them.
The industry seems to be taking the hint, but doesn't know what else to do at this point.
Quote from: PColumbus73 on April 13, 2025, 05:12:10 PMQuote from: Rothman on April 13, 2025, 10:22:37 AMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 13, 2025, 09:13:51 AM**Superhero movies. I have no idea what the Marvel Comic Universe is and really don't care to learn.
**Golf. Used to play it and watch it - now I do neither.
**Video Games. We had a wii when the kids were younger, and that's the last time I played anything.
I enjoyed the first set of Marvel movies, but then Disney made too many series and just bad movies. Doctor Strange and the Whatzithoozit of Madness or whatever it was called did it in for me. My kids will get me into a show here and there, but I'm not half as compelled as I once was to watch them.
The industry seems to be taking the hint, but doesn't know what else to do at this point.
My feelings toward the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the live-action remakes are the same in that they are simply a cash grab by Disney. With the MCU, the individual movies should stand largely on their own rather than having to rely on the audience member's knowledge of previous movies. The way they announce the 'cycles' of the the MCU makes it feel like there isn't as much incentive to create a good movie but treat/write them like soap operas.
And with the live-action remakes, it's just a lack of originality without actually doing anything new and exciting over what was already done. I've seen a couple clips of the new Snow White movie and it just didn't look good. It looked cheap, like it was more of a school play.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 13, 2025, 10:03:42 AM99% of all...
Quote from: formulanone on April 13, 2025, 05:28:29 PMSkulls on everything - everything is not as ruthless and bad-ass as you think it isBonus points if it's a Punisher logo.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMComputers under the hood of cars
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2025, 07:57:02 PMQuote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMComputers under the hood of cars
Busy tuning carburetors? I thought working on those sucked ass. EFI is definitely good use of an onboard CPU.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 08:32:55 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 13, 2025, 07:57:02 PMQuote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMComputers under the hood of cars
Busy tuning carburetors? I thought working on those sucked ass. EFI is definitely good use of an onboard CPU.
I'm not talking about that computer.
Although I remember the time electronic fuel injection came into the market, my mechanic then advised against getting them.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMPaying with debit cards.
Quote from: kkt on April 13, 2025, 10:11:00 PMQuote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMPaying with debit cards.
What do you have against debit cards?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 13, 2025, 10:42:06 PMQuote from: kkt on April 13, 2025, 10:11:00 PMQuote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMPaying with debit cards.
What do you have against debit cards?
There are safety aspects against them. Someone steals your credit card or number; you're limited to $50 in bad purchases which most credit cards will waive. Someone steals your debit card or number - there's no financial protection. While most banks will work with the customer, the bank may not quickly provide funds back into their accounts.
Quote from: kkt on April 13, 2025, 10:11:00 PMQuote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2025, 07:46:42 PMPaying with debit cards.
What do you have against debit cards?
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 09:53:42 AMSmoking. I've never lit anything on fire, stuck it in my mouth, and then sucked in the smoke. Seems like a weird hobby.
Quote from: Bruce on April 14, 2025, 11:51:05 AMAlcohol, because getting drunk induces headaches and is just not pleasant.
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 11:52:07 AMThis is basically a rehash of the 'overrated' thread, isn't it?
Quote from: roadman65 on April 14, 2025, 12:15:57 PMI also never was interested in in VTRs ( probably because I don't watch TV).
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 12:29:52 PMWhat is a VTR? I cursory Google search returns multiple options.
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 12:35:24 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 12:29:52 PMWhat is a VTR? I cursory Google search returns multiple options.
Technically, there were video tape recorders that didn't use cassettes.
For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIAJ-1
Panasonic NV-3130:
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Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 12:59:04 PMJust seems like a rare enough thing to be strange to call out. Because I don't like modern rap, I never liked mini-disc players either, or Zunes.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 11:47:15 AMI do like THC products—particularly since I'm a sober drunk so alcohol doesn't really do much for me. I don't feel the need to actually smoke cannabis since the act of purposely inhaling a fume is just too invasive for my liking. I'd rather preserve my lungs as much as possible.Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 09:53:42 AMSmoking. I've never lit anything on fire, stuck it in my mouth, and then sucked in the smoke. Seems like a weird hobby.
Cigars actually taste nice. Weed makes you feel funny. A cigarette will never makes sense to me since it smells bad and doesn't do much in the inebriation department.
Quote from: gonealookin on April 14, 2025, 01:34:43 PMMusic festivals with numerous acts across multiple stages, with big crowds (see: Coachella). That experience is too exhausting to be enjoyable. If I'm seeing a live musical performance it's in a small room or theater with no more than a few hundred people in attendance...and those people are all there to listen to that specific performer, as opposed to festival attendees' perchant for talking loudly during the music because they consider the experience a gigantic party rather than an artistic performance.
Quite a few festivals have imploded financially in the recent past. They go unlamented here.
Quote from: wxfree on April 14, 2025, 02:31:15 PMQuote from: gonealookin on April 14, 2025, 01:34:43 PMMusic festivals with numerous acts across multiple stages, with big crowds (see: Coachella). That experience is too exhausting to be enjoyable. If I'm seeing a live musical performance it's in a small room or theater with no more than a few hundred people in attendance...and those people are all there to listen to that specific performer, as opposed to festival attendees' perchant for talking loudly during the music because they consider the experience a gigantic party rather than an artistic performance.
Quite a few festivals have imploded financially in the recent past. They go unlamented here.
I dislike all live music performances. The music is too loud, but it has to be so you can hear it over the noise of the crowd. I don't see why people keep going to live shows now that we have audio recordings.
I shouldn't say all live performances. I suppose opera is more like musical theater and there's value in seeing the show. With complex music like a symphony, it might be more interesting to watch it be performed, and it's a different auditory experience. In these cases you aren't enduring deafening music playing over deafening crowds.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 14, 2025, 02:55:01 PMWhite Lotus
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: kernals12 on April 14, 2025, 02:55:01 PMWhite Lotus
Not your cup of tea, but Sydney Sweeney is worth the price of admission on her own for me.
Quote from: wxfree on April 14, 2025, 02:31:15 PMI dislike all live music performances. The music is too loud, but it has to be so you can hear it over the noise of the crowd. I don't see why people keep going to live shows now that we have audio recordings.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2025, 03:04:17 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: kernals12 on April 14, 2025, 02:55:01 PMWhite Lotus
Not your cup of tea, but Sydney Sweeney is worth the price of admission on her own for me.
I've sat through a terrible San Andreas a handful of times because Alexandra Daddario was in it. The first season of White Lotus was a far superior watch and had a specific scene with her that was rather memorable.
Quote from: Rothman on April 14, 2025, 03:26:55 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2025, 03:04:17 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: kernals12 on April 14, 2025, 02:55:01 PMWhite Lotus
Not your cup of tea, but Sydney Sweeney is worth the price of admission on her own for me.
I've sat through a terrible San Andreas a handful of times because Alexandra Daddario was in it. The first season of White Lotus was a far superior watch and had a specific scene with her that was rather memorable.
A popular thing I'm not interested in is watching bad movies just to leer at actors. Has to be a good movie or one I'm interested in rather than just gawking at someone else's anatomy.
Then again, I've often mulled over the very thin gray line between acting and stripping in some actors' careers...
Quote from: gonealookin on April 14, 2025, 01:34:43 PMand those people are all there to listen to that specific performer, as opposed to festival attendees' perchant for talking loudly during the music because they consider the experience a gigantic party rather than an artistic performance.LOL, talking loudly. What pansy-ass festivals are these! Where's the booing, or the throwing stuff?
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2025, 03:31:19 PM+1 for superhero anything.
Sports in general
Quote from: Bobby5280 on April 14, 2025, 03:17:52 PMPopular things I'm not interested in: watching the "Minecraft" movie.
I feel sorry for the theater crews at so many of these theaters getting utterly trashed by audiences at this movie. Management at the biggest theater chains, such as AMC, keep staffing and payroll as minimal as possible. So the employees don't really have the manpower to deal with the aftermath of dozens of people throwing full buckets of popcorn everywhere. Let's not forget the assholes are throwing soft drinks, vandalizing seats and doing other damaging stunts too. Sorry, but fuck "Minecraft" and the pop-cultural fad surrounding it. Same goes for the jerks trashing the theater. I know they're not going to pull the same crap watching the movie in their own living rooms -because they would have to clean up the mess afterward rather than an employee making shit pay.
Quote from: kernals12 on April 14, 2025, 02:55:01 PMWhite Lotus
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 13, 2025, 05:49:14 PMQuote from: formulanone on April 13, 2025, 05:28:29 PMSkulls on everything - everything is not as ruthless and bad-ass as you think it isBonus points if it's a Punisher logo.
Quote from: SectorZ on April 14, 2025, 05:12:56 PMQuote from: Molandfreak on April 13, 2025, 05:49:14 PMQuote from: formulanone on April 13, 2025, 05:28:29 PMSkulls on everything - everything is not as ruthless and bad-ass as you think it isBonus points if it's a Punisher logo.
More bonus points if it's a cop with the Punisher logo not getting the irony.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2025, 04:58:40 PMApparently this Minecraft hooliganism surrounds a chicken jockey? What the fuck is a chicken jockey and why does it make people go ape shit? Is this something like akin to people watching The Room and going nuts whenever a spoon is on screen?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2025, 04:58:40 PMApparently this Minecraft hooliganism surrounds a chicken jockey? What the fuck is a chicken jockey and why does it make people go ape shit? Is this something like akin to people watching The Room and going nuts whenever a spoon is on screen?
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 14, 2025, 04:22:23 PMThe movie is an entire meme (think Barbie movie but worse). A slop-filled meme that people are willingly watching because the other big release is so bad. I don't think the unruly behavior is related to the Minecraft franchise but instead meme culture, trends, and "challenges" in general, which I guess is exacerbated by how bad and funny the movie is.Quote from: Bobby5280 on April 14, 2025, 03:17:52 PMPopular things I'm not interested in: watching the "Minecraft" movie.
I feel sorry for the theater crews at so many of these theaters getting utterly trashed by audiences at this movie. Management at the biggest theater chains, such as AMC, keep staffing and payroll as minimal as possible. So the employees don't really have the manpower to deal with the aftermath of dozens of people throwing full buckets of popcorn everywhere. Let's not forget the assholes are throwing soft drinks, vandalizing seats and doing other damaging stunts too. Sorry, but fuck "Minecraft" and the pop-cultural fad surrounding it. Same goes for the jerks trashing the theater. I know they're not going to pull the same crap watching the movie in their own living rooms -because they would have to clean up the mess afterward rather than an employee making shit pay.
Maybe I've missed it. Is there something specific that is making people more unruly during this movie than others?
Quote from: Rothman on April 14, 2025, 05:57:07 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2025, 04:58:40 PMApparently this Minecraft hooliganism surrounds a chicken jockey? What the fuck is a chicken jockey and why does it make people go ape shit? Is this something like akin to people watching The Room and going nuts whenever a spoon is on screen?
Heh. As someone who played Minecraft with his kids, I find this hilarious. :D
Quote from: formulanone on April 14, 2025, 06:55:28 PMQuote from: Rothman on April 14, 2025, 05:57:07 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2025, 04:58:40 PMApparently this Minecraft hooliganism surrounds a chicken jockey? What the fuck is a chicken jockey and why does it make people go ape shit? Is this something like akin to people watching The Room and going nuts whenever a spoon is on screen?
Heh. As someone who played Minecraft with his kids, I find this hilarious. :D
At times, my son and I were definitely watching two different movies in the same theater. But him and his friends were well-behaved, probably because we were there. Nothing out of the ordinary but there were mostly families there.
I bet most of the ruckus was kids being unattended and given a twenty to spend on concessions. If I get a $12 popcorn, I'm handling it like a Fabregé egg.
Then again, I was 15 when my brother and took our bikes 2 miles away to see Major League, the first movie I'd seen in a theater without our parents or grandparents. By then, it was in the one-dollar matinee with just us and like four others, but that's a good one to have on the 'ol resume.
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 14, 2025, 01:45:02 PMSide question for the mods: is cannabis an acceptable forum topic, particularly if you live in a jurisdiction where it's legal?
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2025, 07:30:05 PMWhat do you think my answer to that is going to be?
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2025, 07:16:33 AMBanks can make debit cards that easy. They just don't want to.And in Canada, they do make them easy. It's only the US that lags behind.
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMmowing early in the morning when the grass is still wet
Quote from: formulanoneI bet most of the ruckus was kids being unattended and given a twenty to spend on concessions. If I get a $12 popcorn, I'm handling it like a Fabregé egg.
Quote from: RothmanPfft. Kids have been trashing movie theaters for generations.
Quote from: Bobby5280 on April 15, 2025, 12:18:17 AMQuote from: formulanoneI bet most of the ruckus was kids being unattended and given a twenty to spend on concessions. If I get a $12 popcorn, I'm handling it like a Fabregé egg.
It's more than just young kids throwing popcorn buckets. Many of the videos posted online at YouTube, various news stories, etc show a lot of grown adults taking part in the mayhem.Quote from: RothmanPfft. Kids have been trashing movie theaters for generations.
The shit taking place during these "Minecraft" screenings is on an entirely different level. The aftermath of a "Rocky Horror Picture Show" screening has nothing on kinds of messes behind left behind by "Minecraft" audiences.
Quote from: texaskdog on April 15, 2025, 02:13:26 AMThe TV shows that "everyone watches" Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Modern Family, The Wire..... I like older shows or offbeat shows, all these people who just watch everything everyone tells them to watch.
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2025, 06:59:00 AMQuote from: Bobby5280 on April 15, 2025, 12:18:17 AMQuote from: formulanoneI bet most of the ruckus was kids being unattended and given a twenty to spend on concessions. If I get a $12 popcorn, I'm handling it like a Fabregé egg.
It's more than just young kids throwing popcorn buckets. Many of the videos posted online at YouTube, various news stories, etc show a lot of grown adults taking part in the mayhem.Quote from: RothmanPfft. Kids have been trashing movie theaters for generations.
The shit taking place during these "Minecraft" screenings is on an entirely different level. The aftermath of a "Rocky Horror Picture Show" screening has nothing on kinds of messes behind left behind by "Minecraft" audiences.
I still disagree: Rocky Horror shows could indeed reach the level of destruction, but you can go back even earlier to when kids just went to the theater to see the running reel -- 1950s and 1960s. Sure, having a scene or two trigger mass trashing is a little different, but painting previous generations as saints in the theater is just silly whitewashing.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMQuote from: texaskdog on April 15, 2025, 02:13:26 AMThe TV shows that "everyone watches" Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Modern Family, The Wire..... I like older shows or offbeat shows, all these people who just watch everything everyone tells them to watch.
And, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMQuote from: texaskdog on April 15, 2025, 02:13:26 AMThe TV shows that "everyone watches" Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Modern Family, The Wire..... I like older shows or offbeat shows, all these people who just watch everything everyone tells them to watch.
And, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2025, 09:27:12 AMMy son and I still quote Breaking Bad all of the time.Because I like giving out information. :bigass:
"Why are you blue?!"
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 09:18:01 AMQuote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMAnd, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
I mean, we're talking about those shows six years after their last episodes.
For the record, one of those shows is not like the others as far as perception both at the time and onward.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 10:03:54 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 09:18:01 AMQuote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMAnd, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
I mean, we're talking about those shows six years after their last episodes.
For the record, one of those shows is not like the others as far as perception both at the time and onward.
If a show is still talked about years or decades after their original runs have ended, then it's probably a good show. How many shows were in the top ten in decades past, but we rarely remember them?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 15, 2025, 10:49:11 AMI've never been part of a popular crowd, even going back to school days, so no matter what the in-thing was, be it clothing, hair, showers or whatever, I usually wasn't interested in it.
Quote from: thspfc on April 15, 2025, 10:19:56 AMAnime
Quote from: thspfc on April 15, 2025, 10:19:56 AMPickup trucks
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 10:03:54 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 09:18:01 AMQuote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMAnd, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
I mean, we're talking about those shows six years after their last episodes.
For the record, one of those shows is not like the others as far as perception both at the time and onward.
If a show is still talked about years or decades after their original runs have ended, then it's probably a good show. How many shows were in the top ten in decades past, but we rarely remember them?
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 09:18:01 AMQuote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMQuote from: texaskdog on April 15, 2025, 02:13:26 AMThe TV shows that "everyone watches" Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Modern Family, The Wire..... I like older shows or offbeat shows, all these people who just watch everything everyone tells them to watch.
And, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
I mean, we're talking about those shows six years after their last episodes.
For the record, one of those shows is not like the others as far as perception both at the time and onward.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 11:24:21 AMThe Wire ended in 2008, so 17 years ago. Is that good enough for "decades" for these purposes? Still a damn good show. And The Wire wasn't even particularly highly watched when it was running live, only after it ended did it really become recognized for its brilliance.
My main point is that a lot of shows that get a lot of hype get said hype because they're good.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 12:13:09 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 11:24:21 AMThe Wire ended in 2008, so 17 years ago. Is that good enough for "decades" for these purposes? Still a damn good show. And The Wire wasn't even particularly highly watched when it was running live, only after it ended did it really become recognized for its brilliance.
My main point is that a lot of shows that get a lot of hype get said hype because they're good.
Babylon 5 had a pilot movie in 1993, and ran from 1994 through 1998. I watched every new episode, have all the episodes on DVD, and is still fondly remembered.
The reference to "decades" are for shows like I Love Lucy, Twilight Zone, Dragnet with Jack Webb, Emergency, Adam-12, I Dream Of Jeanie, M*A*S*H, and so on.
Quote from: formulanone on April 15, 2025, 10:12:57 AMTelevision was a fairly disposable option 20+ years ago; you'd consume it and maybe quote it the next day but many moments were quickly forgotten. There wasn't any way to rewatch them unless you just recorded everything. So if anyone is still talking about a show even a few years after its run, it probably was seen as "pretty good" (even if you and I don't care about it).At the same time however, the media industry is more fragmented than ever, meaning that while the ability to rewatch/watch later is at an all-time high, everyone is watching (or not) different things, and few things can break into the mainstream discourse like "appointment TV" could. Not to mention that the "binge TV" model that Netflix uses means that shows can quickly have a lot of discourse for a week to a month but then quickly fade until the next season a few years later (and heaven help you if you don't have time to binge a whole season right when it comes out - you'll either have to let yourself be spoiled or be unable to read/discuss the show).
Serialized TV programming has a little more staying power nowadays thanks to DVD and streaming options, which were rarer options 20+ years ago. But yeah, I find most of it rehashed situations, tired tropes, with different faces and new plot holes which I don't have the time nor much curiosity to watch anyway.
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMApple anything
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMmowing early in the morning when the grass is still wet
Quote from: RothmanSure, having a scene or two trigger mass trashing is a little different, but painting previous generations as saints in the theater is just silly whitewashing.
Quote from: webny99 on April 15, 2025, 01:06:07 PMNot a Dutch-style apple pie? It's pretty much apple crisp as a pie!Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMApple anything
Agreed. Apple crisp is the only exception, and it's an exception despite the apples, not because of them.
Quote from: webny99 on April 15, 2025, 01:06:07 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMmowing early in the morning when the grass is still wet
I think you missed the "popular" part. Not only is that not popular, it's a sure fire way to become un-popular with your neighbors.
Quote from: Brad Paisley — "Ain't Nothin' Like"I get into getting out out on my mower
In the early mornin' hours 'fore the sun gets hot,
And I like goin' down to the Kroger
When the carnival comes to the parkin' lot
Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMApple anything
Quote from: webny99 on April 15, 2025, 01:06:07 PMAgreed. Apple crisp is the only exception, and it's an exception despite the apples, not because of them.
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 15, 2025, 02:02:41 PMNot a Dutch-style apple pie? It's pretty much apple crisp as a pie!
Quote from: kphoger on April 15, 2025, 02:08:12 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 14, 2025, 07:20:51 PMApple anythingQuote from: webny99 on April 15, 2025, 01:06:07 PMAgreed. Apple crisp is the only exception, and it's an exception despite the apples, not because of them.Quote from: Molandfreak on April 15, 2025, 02:02:41 PMNot a Dutch-style apple pie? It's pretty much apple crisp as a pie!
OK, guys! Seriously. I meant Apple, Inc.
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Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 10:03:54 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 15, 2025, 09:18:01 AMQuote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMAnd, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
I mean, we're talking about those shows six years after their last episodes.
For the record, one of those shows is not like the others as far as perception both at the time and onward.
If a show is still talked about years or decades after their original runs have ended, then it's probably a good show. How many shows were in the top ten in decades past, but we rarely remember them?
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2025, 08:22:47 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2025, 07:16:33 AMBanks can make debit cards that easy. They just don't want to.And in Canada, they do make them easy. It's only the US that lags behind.
Quote from: thspfc on April 15, 2025, 10:19:56 AMAnime
Pickup trucks
Quote from: Bruce on April 15, 2025, 04:49:01 PMInteresting. I haven't been able to find any local bank where I am that issues cards with no foreign transaction fee. My credit card doesn't, but that's because it's grandfathered in from when the bank I was with merged with another. And of course Discover doesn't, but they're accepted very few places outside the US, so it doesn't really help.Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2025, 08:22:47 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2025, 07:16:33 AMBanks can make debit cards that easy. They just don't want to.And in Canada, they do make them easy. It's only the US that lags behind.
Ask someone how much they enjoy the triple fees for Canadian debit cards being used abroad. At least my US debit card only charged a conversion rate, because I bank with a credit union instead of a corporation.
As always, the US is a big place and has a diverse array of practices. Broad statements really don't work.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:12:34 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
^This, especially with Carnival's Walmart-on-the-sea feeling.
That said, I do enjoy the Alaska Marine Highway.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:16:25 AMAnd on a similar note, guided tours. It's crazy when I plan my trips to developing world countries and I google itineraries, just to get an idea of what's worth seeing, and I see a trip that I could do myself for $500 being $3500 in a guided format. Cool. 600% more expensive and 600% less fun.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:24:47 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:16:25 AMAnd on a similar note, guided tours. It's crazy when I plan my trips to developing world countries and I google itineraries, just to get an idea of what's worth seeing, and I see a trip that I could do myself for $500 being $3500 in a guided format. Cool. 600% more expensive and 600% less fun.
My parents and I were very fortunate one year. I had made friends with a Polish exchange student in high school, and then my family included Poland on a vacation to Europe the following year. His mother was a licensed tour guide for all of Poland, and so was he. So not only did he make all of the travel arrangements, but he also accompanied us everywhere and acted as tour guide for free. There were a couple of places where only in-house tour guides were allowed but, after a bit of conversation and some cash exchanged under the table, exceptions were made. So, for example, at no cost to ourselves, we were guided through the Oświęcim (Auschwitz) concentration camp for free by someone who had also guided former inmates of the same camp.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:14:28 AMQuote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:12:34 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
^This, especially with Carnival's Walmart-on-the-sea feeling.
That said, I do enjoy the Alaska Marine Highway.
I'd like to camp on deck of the Marine Highway sometime. The only "cruise" I'd probably ever be willing to take voluntarily is an Antarctic cruise. (Rough goal for my 50th birthday, to hit my 7th continent.)
Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:34:03 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:14:28 AMQuote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:12:34 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
^This, especially with Carnival's Walmart-on-the-sea feeling.
That said, I do enjoy the Alaska Marine Highway.
I'd like to camp on deck of the Marine Highway sometime. The only "cruise" I'd probably ever be willing to take voluntarily is an Antarctic cruise. (Rough goal for my 50th birthday, to hit my 7th continent.)
Sleeping on a hard deck doesn't appeal to me. Neither does bringing enough gear to make the deck comfortable. We got a cabin and enjoyed lounging around on deck.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 16, 2025, 12:14:57 PMI enjoy minimalist camping. It tends to be some of the best sleep I get.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 12:25:16 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 16, 2025, 12:14:57 PMI enjoy minimalist camping. It tends to be some of the best sleep I get.
The best sleep I get is when I'm solo camping, because I hammock camp. I'd never slept 8 hours straight through camping before trying it in a hammock.
Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 12:39:57 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 12:25:16 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 16, 2025, 12:14:57 PMI enjoy minimalist camping. It tends to be some of the best sleep I get.
The best sleep I get is when I'm solo camping, because I hammock camp. I'd never slept 8 hours straight through camping before trying it in a hammock.
Perhaps my issue is my method...
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:16:25 AMAnd on a similar note, guided tours. It's crazy when I plan my trips to developing world countries and I google itineraries, just to get an idea of what's worth seeing, and I see a trip that I could do myself for $500 being $3500 in a guided format. Cool. 600% more expensive and 600% less fun.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on April 16, 2025, 12:53:00 PMHave never been on a cruise, but the appeal to me is that you can visit multiple destinations while sleeping in the same place every night and not having to pack/unpack every time you visit a new destination.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on April 16, 2025, 12:53:00 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Have never been on a cruise, but the appeal to me is that you can visit multiple destinations while sleeping in the same place every night and not having to pack/unpack every time you visit a new destination.
That said, to get me interested in a cruise it's going to have to be very close to an itinerary I'd plan otherwise.
Something like Barcelona-Marseilles-Nice/Monaco-Pisa-Rome would appeal to me.
Also something like USVI-Puerto Rico-Dominican Republic-Turks&Caicos
Quote from: formulanone on April 16, 2025, 12:59:10 PMQuote from: NWI_Irish96 on April 16, 2025, 12:53:00 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Have never been on a cruise, but the appeal to me is that you can visit multiple destinations while sleeping in the same place every night and not having to pack/unpack every time you visit a new destination.
That said, to get me interested in a cruise it's going to have to be very close to an itinerary I'd plan otherwise.
Something like Barcelona-Marseilles-Nice/Monaco-Pisa-Rome would appeal to me.
Also something like USVI-Puerto Rico-Dominican Republic-Turks&Caicos
I think an island-hopping one is probably more understandable; you can't drive to each destination and flying (on top of already flying towards the port) seems to add to the complexity.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 01:22:51 PMQuote from: formulanone on April 16, 2025, 12:59:10 PMQuote from: NWI_Irish96 on April 16, 2025, 12:53:00 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Have never been on a cruise, but the appeal to me is that you can visit multiple destinations while sleeping in the same place every night and not having to pack/unpack every time you visit a new destination.
That said, to get me interested in a cruise it's going to have to be very close to an itinerary I'd plan otherwise.
Something like Barcelona-Marseilles-Nice/Monaco-Pisa-Rome would appeal to me.
Also something like USVI-Puerto Rico-Dominican Republic-Turks&Caicos
I think an island-hopping one is probably more understandable; you can't drive to each destination and flying (on top of already flying towards the port) seems to add to the complexity.
I guess I fail to see the allure of briefly visiting a whole bunch of islands that look more or less the same and have very similar cultures. It's no different than when I go to Southeast Asia, I get "templed out" very, very quickly.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 16, 2025, 01:50:18 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 01:22:51 PMQuote from: formulanone on April 16, 2025, 12:59:10 PMQuote from: NWI_Irish96 on April 16, 2025, 12:53:00 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:13:26 AMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 10:23:16 AMCruises
Oh, yeah, totally. I want to plan my own trip, thank you very much.
Have never been on a cruise, but the appeal to me is that you can visit multiple destinations while sleeping in the same place every night and not having to pack/unpack every time you visit a new destination.
That said, to get me interested in a cruise it's going to have to be very close to an itinerary I'd plan otherwise.
Something like Barcelona-Marseilles-Nice/Monaco-Pisa-Rome would appeal to me.
Also something like USVI-Puerto Rico-Dominican Republic-Turks&Caicos
I think an island-hopping one is probably more understandable; you can't drive to each destination and flying (on top of already flying towards the port) seems to add to the complexity.
I guess I fail to see the allure of briefly visiting a whole bunch of islands that look more or less the same and have very similar cultures. It's no different than when I go to Southeast Asia, I get "templed out" very, very quickly.
The only cruise I have been on went to five different Caribbean islands - Martinique, Barbados, St. Maarten, Antigua and St. Thomas. While there were obviously some similarities, they are all islands afterall, I was actually surprised at how culturally different they were.
This was 30+ years ago on a pretty small ship compared to what is out there these days. Really the ship wasn't all that interesting, but getting up and pulling to port in the mornings was pretty cool.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:24:47 AMMy parents and I were very fortunate one year. I had made friends with a Polish exchange student in high school, and then my family included Poland on a vacation to Europe the following year. His mother was a licensed tour guide for all of Poland, and so was he. So not only did he make all of the travel arrangements, but he also accompanied us everywhere and acted as tour guide for free. There were a couple of places where only in-house tour guides were allowed but, after a bit of conversation and some cash exchanged under the table, exceptions were made. So, for example, at no cost to ourselves, we were guided through the Oświęcim (Auschwitz) concentration camp for free by someone who had also guided former inmates of the same camp.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:31:12 AMThat sounds awesome.
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 03:12:25 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 16, 2025, 11:24:47 AMMy parents and I were very fortunate one year. I had made friends with a Polish exchange student in high school, and then my family included Poland on a vacation to Europe the following year. His mother was a licensed tour guide for all of Poland, and so was he. So not only did he make all of the travel arrangements, but he also accompanied us everywhere and acted as tour guide for free. There were a couple of places where only in-house tour guides were allowed but, after a bit of conversation and some cash exchanged under the table, exceptions were made. So, for example, at no cost to ourselves, we were guided through the Oświęcim (Auschwitz) concentration camp for free by someone who had also guided former inmates of the same camp.Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 16, 2025, 11:31:12 AMThat sounds awesome.
There was one funny thing about it, though.
He surprised us by having bought tickets to the Polish National Opera for our first evening there, to see La Traviata by Giuseppe Verdi. So there we were, with no nicer clothes to change into than khakis and polo shirts, surrounded by people in tuxedos and fancy evening dresses. And then, of course, we were still jet-lagged... in the dark... with singing in a foreign language... and surtitles in a different foreign language... in comfy chairs... for three hours. I slept through most of it.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 08:38:55 AMAnd, for most of these "talked about shows", most are quickly forgotten after their original runs have ended.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 10:03:54 AMIf a show is still talked about years or decades after their original runs have ended, then it's probably a good show. How many shows were in the top ten in decades past, but we rarely remember them?
Quote from: ZLoth on April 15, 2025, 12:13:09 PMThe reference to "decades" are for shows like I Love Lucy, Twilight Zone, Dragnet with Jack Webb, Emergency, Adam-12, I Dream Of Jeanie, M*A*S*H, and so on.
I'm Gen-X, so there were a decent number of these shows from 1960-1975 that were still in regular syndication while I was a television-watching kid. Even so, there was only one show on the list where the title just didn't ring a bell (Family Affair), and only a handful where I couldn't give you at least the genre or the overarching plot. Since the mid-'90s, my non-sports television-watching has been under two hours per week - I didn't even have a television between 1994 and 2003 - yet, I'm familiar with all of the more recent shows on this list because they're just part of the cultural zeitgeist. My point with this: the shows that were truly popular (not just one-season-wonders) are still talked about, and there's a whole bunch of shows that didn't quite make this list that are also regularly talked about: The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Batman, Full House, Miami Vice, Perry Mason, The Love Boat, Lost, Mission: Impossible, Taxi, The West Wing, The X-Files, and more. |
Quote from: DTComposer on April 16, 2025, 04:24:31 PMonly one show on the list where the title just didn't ring a bell (Family Affair)
Quote from: PColumbus73 on April 16, 2025, 02:37:11 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 16, 2025, 01:50:18 PMThe only cruise I have been on went to five different Caribbean islands - Martinique, Barbados, St. Maarten, Antigua and St. Thomas. While there were obviously some similarities, they are all islands afterall, I was actually surprised at how culturally different they were.
This was 30+ years ago on a pretty small ship compared to what is out there these days. Really the ship wasn't all that interesting, but getting up and pulling to port in the mornings was pretty cool.
I went on a cruise once about 10 years ago. It was good for the experience, but I don't have an interest in going on another. I've compared it to being on a tour bus. It was nice to see a different island every day, but it felt like you couldn't really take your time while on shore, both in the limited time you're at port, and the fear of getting left behind.
Quote from: Big John on April 16, 2025, 09:39:33 PMHeard of all except December Bride, Have Gun-Will Travel and Wagon Train.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 14, 2025, 12:15:57 PMI'm not interest in Television since the internet.
I also never was interested in in VTRs ( probably because I don't watch TV).
Then Alexa I'm not interested at all. Or Siri either. Nor the voice activated automobile radio and phone connection in the car. I still use presets and the knobs to change stations.
Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:11:45 PMGen Xer here. Hadn't heard of seven of the shows, by my count.
Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:11:45 PMGen Xer here. Hadn't heard of seven of the shows, by my count.
Quote from: Rothman on April 16, 2025, 11:11:45 PMGen Xer here. Hadn't heard of seven of the shows, by my count.
Quote from: kphoger on April 17, 2025, 11:37:53 AMBorn in 1981, therefore straddling the line between Gen-X and -Y. Put me down for seven as well.
Currently watching
Sanford and Son
Seinfeld
Have watched within the last 5 years
Andy Griffith Show, The
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
CSI: Miami
Everybody Loves Raymond
Friends
I Love Lucy
Murder, She Wrote
NCIS
Have watched but not recently
All in the Family
Beverly Hillbillies, The
Bewitched
Cheers
Cosby Show, The
ER
Frasier
Grey's Anatomy
Happy Days
Home Improvement *
Jeffersons, The
Laverne & Shirley
M*A*S*H
Murphy Brown
Roseanne
Two and a Half Men
Heard of but never watched
Alice
Bonanza
Dallas
Desperate Housewives
Different World, A
Dragnet
Falcon Crest
Family Affair
Golden Girls, The
Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.
Gunsmoke
Have Gun – Will Travel
Hawaii Five-O
Law & Order
Lucy Show, The
Maude
NYPD Blue
Three's Company
Touched by an Angel
Wagon Train
Who's the Boss?
Will & Grace
Without a Trace
Never heard of
Danny Thomas Show, The
December Bride
Dynasty
Here's Lucy
Life of Riley, The
Marcus Welby, M.D.
One Day at a Time
* We would be watching this one but, at the time we most recently were looking for a series to start watching as a family in the evenings, it wasn't available for free on any of our streaming services.
Quote from: Rothman on April 17, 2025, 02:44:04 PMYou not hearing about One Day at a Time doesn't make a lick of sense given the other shows you have seen or heard of.
Quote from: kphoger on April 17, 2025, 02:56:08 PMQuote from: Rothman on April 17, 2025, 02:44:04 PMYou not hearing about One Day at a Time doesn't make a lick of sense given the other shows you have seen or heard of.
Umm... I'm sorry. 🤷
Quote from: texaskdog on April 15, 2025, 02:13:26 AMThe TV shows that "everyone watches" Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Modern Family, The Wire..... I like older shows or offbeat shows, all these people who just watch everything everyone tells them to watch.
Quote from: kphoger on April 17, 2025, 02:56:08 PMQuote from: Rothman on April 17, 2025, 02:44:04 PMYou not hearing about One Day at a Time doesn't make a lick of sense given the other shows you have seen or heard of.
Umm... I'm sorry. 🤷
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 17, 2025, 03:13:54 PMIt's vaaaaaggguuueeelly familiar to me, having Googled it, but I can't say 100%.
Quote from: wxfree on April 17, 2025, 03:13:29 PMI think around 2030 or 2035 I'll want to watch them, starting with Better Call Saul since it happened first.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 17, 2025, 03:13:54 PMQuote from: kphoger on April 17, 2025, 02:56:08 PMQuote from: Rothman on April 17, 2025, 02:44:04 PMYou not hearing about One Day at a Time doesn't make a lick of sense given the other shows you have seen or heard of.
Umm... I'm sorry. 🤷
It's vaaaaaggguuueeelly familiar to me, having Googled it, but I can't say 100%.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 05:08:06 PMValerie Bertenelli
Eddie Van Halen ← the only one I've heard of
Mackenzie Phillips
Quote from: kphoger on April 17, 2025, 05:27:41 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 05:08:06 PMValerie Bertenelli
Eddie Van Halen ← the only one I've heard of
Mackenzie Phillips
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 06:24:05 PMYou would have definitely heard of Bertinelli had you been born 5-10 years earlier.
Quote from: kphoger on April 17, 2025, 06:25:19 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 06:24:05 PMYou would have definitely heard of Bertinelli had you been born 5-10 years earlier.
Umm... I'm sorry. 🤷
Quote from: DTComposer on April 17, 2025, 06:27:12 PMRe: One Day at a Time - I also would have thought anyone born before 1975 or so would remember it - it ran for nine seasons, was a Norman Lear creation, had the above-mentioned "scandals" with its stars, and had the (also shown above) 2017 re-boot with Rita Moreno.
But I'm sure there's plenty I don't recall from that era that would feel like common knowledge to others.
In making the list of shows, I thought it was interesting that some shows that many now consider very representative of their era on TV never cracked the top 10:
-Leave it to Beaver - six seasons, never cracked the top 30
-Gilligan's Island - three seasons, top 30 in two seasons (18, 22)
-The Brady Bunch - five seasons, never cracked the top 30
-The Streets of San Francisco - five seasons, top 30 in three seasons (22, 22, 26)
-CHiPs - six seasons, top 30 in three seasons (25, 18, 24)
-Knight Rider - four seasons, top 30 in one season (25)
-The Simpsons - 36 seasons, top 30 in three seasons (28, 30, 18), none since 1998
-Malcolm in the Middle - seven seasons, top 30 in one season (28)
In spite of their lesser popularity during first-run, syndication helped the nostalgia factor to be heavy enough on the first three that they spawned sequels and remakes throughout the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
Quote from: DTComposer on April 17, 2025, 06:27:12 PMI thought it was interesting that some shows that many now consider very representative of their era on TV never cracked the top 10:
-Leave it to Beaver - six seasons, never cracked the top 30
-Gilligan's Island - three seasons, top 30 in two seasons (18, 22)
-The Brady Bunch - five seasons, never cracked the top 30
-CHiPs - six seasons, top 30 in three seasons (25, 18, 24)
-The Simpsons - 36 seasons, top 30 in three seasons (28, 30, 18), none since 1998
Quote from: kkt on April 17, 2025, 11:17:47 PMI'm surprised Star Trek didn't make the list. It seems to have more of a cultural impact than its ratings would suggest.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 06:31:08 PMEspecially when that ill-fated spinoff aired in the early 90s...Quote from: DTComposer on April 17, 2025, 06:27:12 PMRe: One Day at a Time - I also would have thought anyone born before 1975 or so would remember it - it ran for nine seasons, was a Norman Lear creation, had the above-mentioned "scandals" with its stars, and had the (also shown above) 2017 re-boot with Rita Moreno.
But I'm sure there's plenty I don't recall from that era that would feel like common knowledge to others.
In making the list of shows, I thought it was interesting that some shows that many now consider very representative of their era on TV never cracked the top 10:
-Leave it to Beaver - six seasons, never cracked the top 30
-Gilligan's Island - three seasons, top 30 in two seasons (18, 22)
-The Brady Bunch - five seasons, never cracked the top 30
-The Streets of San Francisco - five seasons, top 30 in three seasons (22, 22, 26)
-CHiPs - six seasons, top 30 in three seasons (25, 18, 24)
-Knight Rider - four seasons, top 30 in one season (25)
-The Simpsons - 36 seasons, top 30 in three seasons (28, 30, 18), none since 1998
-Malcolm in the Middle - seven seasons, top 30 in one season (28)
In spite of their lesser popularity during first-run, syndication helped the nostalgia factor to be heavy enough on the first three that they spawned sequels and remakes throughout the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
WKRP in Cincinnati is another that I think was larger in syndication than as a first run show.
Quote from: kkt on April 17, 2025, 11:17:47 PMI'm surprised Star Trek didn't make the list. It seems to have more of a cultural impact than its ratings would suggest.Plus I would say it throws a wrench into the theory that earlier television shows were meant to be disposable. Really the only shows that were "disposable" were those that the studio had purposely discarded after they aired. So, basically just daytime soap operas were ever considered truly disposable. Anything else was assumed to have at least some staying power.
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 18, 2025, 12:03:59 AMQuote from: kkt on April 17, 2025, 11:17:47 PMI'm surprised Star Trek didn't make the list. It seems to have more of a cultural impact than its ratings would suggest.Plus I would say it throws a wrench into the theory that earlier television shows were meant to be disposable. Really the only shows that were "disposable" were those that the studio had purposely discarded after they aired. So, basically just daytime soap operas were ever considered truly disposable. Anything else was assumed to have at least some staying power.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 12:05:45 AMQuote from: Molandfreak on April 18, 2025, 12:03:59 AMQuote from: kkt on April 17, 2025, 11:17:47 PMI'm surprised Star Trek didn't make the list. It seems to have more of a cultural impact than its ratings would suggest.Plus I would say it throws a wrench into the theory that earlier television shows were meant to be disposable. Really the only shows that were "disposable" were those that the studio had purposely discarded after they aired. So, basically just daytime soap operas were ever considered truly disposable. Anything else was assumed to have at least some staying power.
Weren't the ratings on the original Star Trek bad by the standards of the time?
Quote from: Henry on April 17, 2025, 11:50:00 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 06:31:08 PMEspecially when that ill-fated spinoff aired in the early 90s...Quote from: DTComposer on April 17, 2025, 06:27:12 PMRe: One Day at a Time - I also would have thought anyone born before 1975 or so would remember it - it ran for nine seasons, was a Norman Lear creation, had the above-mentioned "scandals" with its stars, and had the (also shown above) 2017 re-boot with Rita Moreno.
But I'm sure there's plenty I don't recall from that era that would feel like common knowledge to others.
In making the list of shows, I thought it was interesting that some shows that many now consider very representative of their era on TV never cracked the top 10:
-Leave it to Beaver - six seasons, never cracked the top 30
-Gilligan's Island - three seasons, top 30 in two seasons (18, 22)
-The Brady Bunch - five seasons, never cracked the top 30
-The Streets of San Francisco - five seasons, top 30 in three seasons (22, 22, 26)
-CHiPs - six seasons, top 30 in three seasons (25, 18, 24)
-Knight Rider - four seasons, top 30 in one season (25)
-The Simpsons - 36 seasons, top 30 in three seasons (28, 30, 18), none since 1998
-Malcolm in the Middle - seven seasons, top 30 in one season (28)
In spite of their lesser popularity during first-run, syndication helped the nostalgia factor to be heavy enough on the first three that they spawned sequels and remakes throughout the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
WKRP in Cincinnati is another that I think was larger in syndication than as a first run show.
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 18, 2025, 09:49:17 AMThen syndication died as the music rights were separated from the TV rights. Then the holders of the music rights wanted an obscene amount of money. Then the TV syndicators reacted by substituting the songs actually played on the show with likes of Achy Breaky Heart.Quote from: Henry on April 17, 2025, 11:50:00 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 06:31:08 PMEspecially when that ill-fated spinoff aired in the early 90s...Quote from: DTComposer on April 17, 2025, 06:27:12 PMRe: One Day at a Time - I also would have thought anyone born before 1975 or so would remember it - it ran for nine seasons, was a Norman Lear creation, had the above-mentioned "scandals" with its stars, and had the (also shown above) 2017 re-boot with Rita Moreno.
But I'm sure there's plenty I don't recall from that era that would feel like common knowledge to others.
In making the list of shows, I thought it was interesting that some shows that many now consider very representative of their era on TV never cracked the top 10:
-Leave it to Beaver - six seasons, never cracked the top 30
-Gilligan's Island - three seasons, top 30 in two seasons (18, 22)
-The Brady Bunch - five seasons, never cracked the top 30
-The Streets of San Francisco - five seasons, top 30 in three seasons (22, 22, 26)
-CHiPs - six seasons, top 30 in three seasons (25, 18, 24)
-Knight Rider - four seasons, top 30 in one season (25)
-The Simpsons - 36 seasons, top 30 in three seasons (28, 30, 18), none since 1998
-Malcolm in the Middle - seven seasons, top 30 in one season (28)
In spite of their lesser popularity during first-run, syndication helped the nostalgia factor to be heavy enough on the first three that they spawned sequels and remakes throughout the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
WKRP in Cincinnati is another that I think was larger in syndication than as a first run show.
I completely forgot about that!
Quote from: Big John on April 18, 2025, 10:09:05 AMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 18, 2025, 09:49:17 AMThen syndication died as the music rights were separated from the TV rights. Then the holders of the music rights wanted an obscene amount of money. Then the TV syndicators reacted by substituting the songs actually played on the show with likes of Achy Breaky Heart.Quote from: Henry on April 17, 2025, 11:50:00 PMQuote from: SEWIGuy on April 17, 2025, 06:31:08 PMEspecially when that ill-fated spinoff aired in the early 90s...Quote from: DTComposer on April 17, 2025, 06:27:12 PMRe: One Day at a Time - I also would have thought anyone born before 1975 or so would remember it - it ran for nine seasons, was a Norman Lear creation, had the above-mentioned "scandals" with its stars, and had the (also shown above) 2017 re-boot with Rita Moreno.
But I'm sure there's plenty I don't recall from that era that would feel like common knowledge to others.
In making the list of shows, I thought it was interesting that some shows that many now consider very representative of their era on TV never cracked the top 10:
-Leave it to Beaver - six seasons, never cracked the top 30
-Gilligan's Island - three seasons, top 30 in two seasons (18, 22)
-The Brady Bunch - five seasons, never cracked the top 30
-The Streets of San Francisco - five seasons, top 30 in three seasons (22, 22, 26)
-CHiPs - six seasons, top 30 in three seasons (25, 18, 24)
-Knight Rider - four seasons, top 30 in one season (25)
-The Simpsons - 36 seasons, top 30 in three seasons (28, 30, 18), none since 1998
-Malcolm in the Middle - seven seasons, top 30 in one season (28)
In spite of their lesser popularity during first-run, syndication helped the nostalgia factor to be heavy enough on the first three that they spawned sequels and remakes throughout the '70s, '80s, and '90s.
WKRP in Cincinnati is another that I think was larger in syndication than as a first run show.
I completely forgot about that!
Quote from: DTComposer on April 16, 2025, 04:24:31 PMMy point with this: the shows that were truly popular (not just one-season-wonders) are still talked about, and there's a whole bunch of shows that didn't quite make this list that are also regularly talked about: The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Batman, Full House, Miami Vice, Perry Mason, The Love Boat, Lost, Mission: Impossible, Taxi, The West Wing, The X-Files, and more.Not that it negates from the point being made here, but would Batman and Mission: Impossible really be talked about as much as they are if they didn't have media franchises that grew since they were airing on television? Especially for M:I, I doubt it would be discussed nearly as often if the franchise weren't rebooted in 1996.
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 18, 2025, 08:01:51 PMQuote from: DTComposer on April 16, 2025, 04:24:31 PMMy point with this: the shows that were truly popular (not just one-season-wonders) are still talked about, and there's a whole bunch of shows that didn't quite make this list that are also regularly talked about: The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Batman, Full House, Miami Vice, Perry Mason, The Love Boat, Lost, Mission: Impossible, Taxi, The West Wing, The X-Files, and more.Not that it negates from the point being made here, but would Batman and Mission: Impossible really be talked about as much as they are if they didn't have media franchises that grew since they were airing on television? Especially for M:I, I doubt it would be discussed nearly as often if the franchise weren't rebooted in 1996.
Likewise, there was an attempt to reboot The Man From U.N.C.L.E. in 2015, but nothing really came from it since the film ended up being a box-office bomb.
Quote from: Mav94 on April 19, 2025, 07:22:37 PMI cannot think of anything I want to do less than binge watch a TV show. I don't care how good it is.
Quote from: ZLoth on April 19, 2025, 08:03:55 PMQuote from: Mav94 on April 19, 2025, 07:22:37 PMI cannot think of anything I want to do less than binge watch a TV show. I don't care how good it is.
Fine. Please enjoy whatever activity you prefer. This is a road discussion forum after all.
It's not like I watch television on a regular basis anymore.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:26:23 PMI can't recall ever having much interest in AI anything
Quote from: formulanone on April 19, 2025, 09:17:20 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:26:23 PMI can't recall ever having much interest in AI anything
Frankly, the public's blind acceptance of AI (whether real or just a buzzword) borders on nauseating. It's become an untrustworthy pox that won't go away.
Quote from: Rothman on April 19, 2025, 10:06:01 PMQuote from: formulanone on April 19, 2025, 09:17:20 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:26:23 PMI can't recall ever having much interest in AI anything
Frankly, the public's blind acceptance of AI (whether real or just a buzzword) borders on nauseating. It's become an untrustworthy pox that won't go away.
Let us know what to do to reject it, then.
Quote from: Rothman on April 19, 2025, 10:06:01 PMQuote from: formulanone on April 19, 2025, 09:17:20 PMQuote from: Max Rockatansky on April 18, 2025, 05:26:23 PMI can't recall ever having much interest in AI anything
Frankly, the public's blind acceptance of AI (whether real or just a buzzword) borders on nauseating. It's become an untrustworthy pox that won't go away.
Let us know what to do to reject it, then.
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 18, 2025, 08:01:51 PMLikewise, there was an attempt to reboot The Man From U.N.C.L.E. in 2015, but nothing really came from it since the film ended up being a box-office bomb.
Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2025, 09:43:10 AMIt's a good movie. I was working in a movie theatre at the time, so I was keeping up with how films were performing at the box office. The amount of people who watch a movie in theatres is not a great indicator of the film's quality.Quote from: Molandfreak on April 18, 2025, 08:01:51 PMLikewise, there was an attempt to reboot The Man From U.N.C.L.E. in 2015, but nothing really came from it since the film ended up being a box-office bomb.
It's on my list of ideas for guys' movie night. Are you saying it's not worth watching?
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2025, 04:13:23 PMDwelling on famous people's deaths.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2025, 04:13:23 PMDwelling on famous people's deaths.
Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2025, 04:16:03 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2025, 04:13:23 PMDwelling on famous people's deaths.
Even simpler for me:
famous people
Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2025, 04:16:03 PMQuote from: JayhawkCO on April 21, 2025, 04:13:23 PMDwelling on famous people's deaths.
Even simpler for me:
famous people
Quote from: roadman65 on April 21, 2025, 04:26:11 PMWhat irks me is the fact they played out some deaths like Michael Jackson.
Every media outlet covered his death way too much. Even Fox covered it considering that their audience falls within the guilty verdict of his sexual identity with younger people.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 21, 2025, 04:26:11 PMWhat irks me is the fact they played out some deaths like Michael Jackson.
Every media outlet covered his death way too much. Even Fox covered it considering that their audience falls within the guilty verdict of his sexual identity with younger people.