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Title: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 01:32:44 PM
Does anyone have any solid map data on where the hell US 99 was north of downtown Seattle prior to the Aurora Bridge opening in 1932?  The AASHTO database didn't have any information in filed for Washington State and topographical maps jump from 1909 to 1949.

The only solid map I've ever found is a 1931 edition from Richfield Oil Company.  Said map shows US 99 following Eastlake Avenue towards the University of Washington and Bothell Way towards Bothell.  That seems to make sense based off previous research I did for the Everett and Marysville areas but I was hoping for a better data set.

https://www.davidrumsey.com/uv/index.html?manifestUrl=%2F%2Fwww.davidrumsey.com%2Fluna%2Fservlet%2Fiiif%2Fm%2FRUMSEY~8~1~290433~90061992%2Fmanifest#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=0&r=180&xywh=-144%2C6786%2C2839%2C1292
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: stevashe on July 29, 2025, 07:23:57 PM
WSDOT has the 1931 official state highway map online which shows US 99 close to its current routing. This could be referring to the Fremont Bridge, which is close to the Aurora Bridge, but completed earlier in 1917.

https://cdm16977.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16977coll25/id/89/rec/1
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: kkt on July 29, 2025, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: stevashe on July 29, 2025, 07:23:57 PMWSDOT has the 1931 official state highway map online which shows US 99 close to its current routing. This could be referring to the Fremont Bridge, which is close to the Aurora Bridge, but completed earlier in 1917.

https://cdm16977.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p16977coll25/id/89/rec/1

That looks like it followed Westlake, the Fremont Bridge, and 15th Ave. NW.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 08:29:34 PM
Interestingly the 1925 Rand McNally edition has Pacific Highway on the UW/Bothell alignment and PSH 1 on Fremont Bridge alignment:

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2161~200067:Rand-McNally-Official-1925-Auto-Tra?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&mi=1&trs=3&qvq=q:Washington%20highway%201925;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Henry on July 29, 2025, 11:00:38 PM
The full story can be found on the bridge's Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_Bridge). It should come as no surprise that it opened on George Washington's 200th birthday, given that his name is also that of the state.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 11:13:09 PM
Not really, the Wikipedia page is kind of vague about where US 99 was and sort of insinuates the Fremont Bridge.  We're all coming up with contradictory information, it could have been the Fremont Bridge but there isn't enough to say that was original alignment just yet.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Bruce on July 30, 2025, 01:52:00 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 11:13:09 PMNot really, the Wikipedia page is kind of vague about where US 99 was and sort of insinuates the Fremont Bridge.  We're all coming up with contradictory information, it could have been the Fremont Bridge but there isn't enough to say that was original alignment just yet.

This section (https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Washington_State_Route_99#Pacific_Highway_and_U.S._Route_99) on the State Route 99 article is more clear. The Fremont Bridge was likely the actual routing given it was historically the shortest path from what is now Shoreline to Seattle, whether by automobile or interurban/streetcar.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 30, 2025, 07:57:24 AM
Quote from: Bruce on July 30, 2025, 01:52:00 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 11:13:09 PMNot really, the Wikipedia page is kind of vague about where US 99 was and sort of insinuates the Fremont Bridge.  We're all coming up with contradictory information, it could have been the Fremont Bridge but there isn't enough to say that was original alignment just yet.

This section (https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Washington_State_Route_99#Pacific_Highway_and_U.S._Route_99) on the State Route 99 article is more clear. The Fremont Bridge was likely the actual routing given it was historically the shortest path from what is now Shoreline to Seattle, whether by automobile or interurban/streetcar.

Got a scan of citation 45 by chance?  Is that an article which references US 99 being on the Fremont Bridge or just PSH 1?
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: pderocco on July 30, 2025, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 08:29:34 PMInterestingly the 1925 Rand McNally edition has Pacific Highway on the UW/Bothell alignment and PSH 1 on Fremont Bridge alignment:

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2161~200067:Rand-McNally-Official-1925-Auto-Tra?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&mi=1&trs=3&qvq=q:Washington%20highway%201925;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1
That shows the later alignment (current WA-99) being under construction.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 30, 2025, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: pderocco on July 30, 2025, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 29, 2025, 08:29:34 PMInterestingly the 1925 Rand McNally edition has Pacific Highway on the UW/Bothell alignment and PSH 1 on Fremont Bridge alignment:

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2161~200067:Rand-McNally-Official-1925-Auto-Tra?sort=Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No&mi=1&trs=3&qvq=q:Washington%20highway%201925;sort:Pub_List_No_InitialSort%2CPub_Date%2CPub_List_No%2CSeries_No;lc:RUMSEY~8~1
That shows the later alignment (current WA-99) being under construction.

Correct, which makes me believe that one of two things was likely with pre-1932 US 99:

-  It was signed on the existing alignment of the Pacific Highway through Bothell.
-  It was signed at all north of downtown Seattle and Pacific Highway signage was left up until the Aurora Bridge opened.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 02, 2025, 01:32:18 PM
Dale over at USends sent me 1930 Gallup map which agrees with the two earlier commercial maps I linked above showing US 99 on Eastlake.  The Gallup map is by far the most detailed out of the three commercial maps:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54695177011_90d722e216_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2rke5zi)---Seattle (https://flic.kr/p/2rke5zi) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

The layout north of the Fremont Bridge is also shown in great detail.  It looks as though north of the Fremont Bridge traffic would jog over onto West Green Lake Way to continue towards the Shoreline Area via Aurora (I believe originally Trunk Road?).  In this context it certainly makes more sense to me why the Pacific Highway and early PSH 1 was routed through Bothell.  The University Bridge on Eastlake is of the period also having been completed by 1919. 
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: kkt on August 02, 2025, 02:45:07 PM
10th Ave. NE on the map (near the University of Washington) is now known as Roosevelt Ave., after Teddy R. 

Now I wonder when it was renamed, I'm surprised it wasn't Roosevelt by 1930.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: pderocco on August 02, 2025, 09:23:44 PM
I'm also interested in the US-10 variations. That map shows it going down Rainier, and hugging the lake. All the maps on Rumsey, starting with 1939, show it splitting off onto what's now MLK, and then the current 900. It appears to go up the E side of the lake to where I-90 is now. Maps through 1949 still show this, even though Wikipedia says that the floating bridge became US-10 when it opened in 1940. I would think the latter would be correct, because why send US-10 down under the bottom of the lake when it could go straight across?
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Bruce on August 03, 2025, 01:50:35 AM
Quote from: pderocco on August 02, 2025, 09:23:44 PMI'm also interested in the US-10 variations. That map shows it going down Rainier, and hugging the lake. All the maps on Rumsey, starting with 1939, show it splitting off onto what's now MLK, and then the current 900. It appears to go up the E side of the lake to where I-90 is now. Maps through 1949 still show this, even though Wikipedia says that the floating bridge became US-10 when it opened in 1940. I would think the latter would be correct, because why send US-10 down under the bottom of the lake when it could go straight across?

The route through Renton was signed as US 10 Alt until the 1950s.
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: pderocco on August 03, 2025, 04:41:15 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 03, 2025, 01:50:35 AMThe route through Renton was signed as US 10 Alt until the 1950s.
The back sides of the Washington Official maps available at Rumsey show that as US-10 Alt from 1950 to 1955, after which there is no longer any Alt route, and before which it is shown as US-10. Is it possible that the official maps were simply wrong before 1950?
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Mapmikey on August 06, 2025, 11:16:51 PM
Other info for US 99:

1926 State map of US routes showed Bothell routing - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=265&view=1up

1926 State Hwy map showed both alignments -
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=269&view=1up

1927 RMcN showing US 99 bypassing Bothell - https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~33783~1171499:Spokane,-Seattle-?mi=20&trs=21&qvq=w4s:/when%2F1927;q:seattle;lc:RUMSEY~8~1

As does the 1927 state official - https://digitalarchives.wa.gov/do/16E825AA424AA19DEA1088000BE77667.jpg

As of Sept 1928, the highway department said 0.72 miles of SH 1 went through Bothell
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=413
In 1924 it was 1.11 miles - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=37&view=1up

1928 Traffic census for SH 1 says it used Woodland Park Ave north of NCL Seattle
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=422

It appears the bypass route was completed in fall 1927-
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=437

1924 Federal Aid Map shows both alighnments - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112043422606&seq=23&view=1up
Title: Re: US 99 prior to the Aurora Bridge
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 03, 2025, 10:07:46 AM
Put all this business on our US 99 page:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2025/09/former-us-route-99-over-aurora-bridge.html?m=1