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Title: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: BJ59 on August 20, 2025, 12:46:40 PM
Just saw today that Loop-288 in Denton now has US-377 signs posted just north of I-35E.
Does anyone know why they chose to reroute US-377 to this location?

Title: Re: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: -- US 175 -- on August 20, 2025, 03:48:36 PM
I just heard about the Denton re-routings lately regarding US 77 and US 377 (maybe US 380 also?).  I'm not sure why it's being done.  The in-town routings US 77 and US 377 used up to now aren't becoming business routes of those roads (like I would have guessed).  Maybe the city wants to have truck traffic away from downtown.
Title: Re: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: Chris on August 20, 2025, 04:01:53 PM
https://www.txdot.gov/content/dam/docs/commission/2025/0130/agenda.pdf

This rerouting was on the agenda of the January 2025 meeting of the Texas Transportation Commission.

This minute order designates US 77 on the state highway system concurrently with I-35 and I-35E from the intersection of existing US 77 and I-35 southeastward to the intersection of existing US 77 and I-35E, a distance of approximately 7.1 miles; redesignates a segment of existing US 77 on the state highway system as US Spur 77 from I-35 southeastward to US 380, a distance of approximately 3.8 miles; designates US 377 on the state highway system concurrently with I-35E from the existing intersection of US 377 and I-35E, southeastward to SL 288, a distance of approximately
2.0 miles, then concurrently with SL 288 northward to US 380, a distance of approximately 3.7 miles; redesignates a segment of US 377 on the state highway system as US Spur 377 from I-35E northward along Fort Worth Drive to Eagle Drive, then eastward along Eagle Drive to Dallas Drive, a total distance of approximately 0.8 miles; redesignates a segment of US 77 on the state highway system as US Spur 377 from Eagle Drive southeastward along Dallas Drive to I 35E, a distance of approximately 1.6 miles; and removes a segment of US 377 from the state highway system along its concurrency with US 380 from North Elm Street eastward to SL 288, a distance of approximately 2.6 miles, in Denton County.
Title: Re: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: kphoger on August 20, 2025, 04:35:25 PM
But that doesn't really say why it was done, though, does it?
Title: Re: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: BJ59 on August 20, 2025, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 20, 2025, 04:35:25 PMBut that doesn't really say why it was done, though, does it?

If I had to guess, I would agree with US-175 that it has to do with truck traffic and probably non-local traffic. They're probably trying to keep all unnecessary traffic out of the Denton Square and US-380 near Downtown.

Up until recently, the US-77/US-377 concurrency on Elm St. and Locust St. was a pretty beaten up road. There used to be potholes everywhere. They just repaved it within the last couple of years, and I guess they figure that if they keep trucks off of that road it won't be beaten to crap like it had previously.

Quote from: Chris on August 20, 2025, 04:01:53 PM2.0 miles, then concurrently with SL 288 northward to US 380, a distance of approximately 3.7 miles; redesignates a segment of US 377 on the state highway system as US Spur 377 from I-35E northward

I'm guessing they have to designate the old designations as spurs to keep them under state maintenance. I don't know why spur designations were chosen over the roads becoming Business US-77 and Business US-377.

The US-77 concurrency with I-35 seems smart to me, since US-77 just ties into I-35 on both sides of town anyways. However, the new routing of US-377 along I-35E and SL-288 seems to make the road zigzag all through Denton. And although it keeps the US-377 traffic out of the square, it is still dumping it into the Golden Triangle Mall area, which already has decent levels of traffic.
Title: Re: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: BJ59 on August 20, 2025, 08:27:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bQYgvD2.jpeg)

Photo of the new concurrent signing of US-377 and SL-288, taken on Northbound SL-288 just north of Colorado Blvd
Title: Re: New US-377 Routing in Denton
Post by: -- US 175 -- on August 21, 2025, 02:49:39 PM
With the new US 77 and US 377 routings, this will now cause a wrong-way overlap on I-35E between Fort Worth Dr. and Lillian Miller Pkwy.