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Title: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: DTComposer on September 15, 2025, 08:05:40 PM
https://www.sfgate.com/northcoast/article/albion-river-bridge-highway-1-20798699.php

QuoteBuilt in 1944, it is the last timber truss superstructure owned by the state of California still carrying highway traffic — a historic landmark that locals consider part of their identity. Picture a bridge high above the Albion River that looks like something out of a black-and-white Western: less like modern highway infrastructure, more like the skeletal framework of an old railroad trestle. Weathered wooden beams crisscross in triangles, forming a lattice that holds the roadway high above the water. That's what the Albion River Bridge looks like.

But the state says its days are numbered. Caltrans asserts the bridge is in disrepair and potentially dangerous, and after 10 years of public process, it has officially unveiled designs for a modern replacement: seismically sound, easier to maintain, built to standard specifications but utterly lacking in any design poetry or marvel.


Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 08:10:28 PM
Lame on all levels.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: cahwyguy on September 15, 2025, 08:28:35 PM
The solution to this problem is simple: Spend about another 50+ million and make the new bridge architecturally unique and a signature piece. Worked in Long Beach and for the Bay Bridge. The community gets their signature piece to draw tourists, and the state gets an architecturally sound bridge.

We've got the extra cash, right?
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 08:44:16 PM
The arch spandrel bridge sketch isn't terrible, but nobody is going to ever stop and take photos of something like that.  Just my take but another cable stay span would be super cliche.  It would be weird seeing one on the smaller size though.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: cahwyguy on September 15, 2025, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 08:44:16 PMThe arch spandrel bridge sketch isn't terrible, but nobody is going to ever stop and take photos of something like that.  Just my take but another cable stay span would be super cliche.  It would be weird seeing one on the smaller size though.

Well, they do take pictures of Cold Springs Tavern, and that bridge on I-15 (Bonsall, IIRC)? Those are arch bridges. Aren't some of the picturesque Route 1 bridges in Big Sur arch bridges as well?

But they could also build something out of modern materials that would look like a truss bridge, or come up with some other interesting design.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: pderocco on September 15, 2025, 09:41:24 PM
Well, since they certainly won't demolish the old bridge and then start building a new one, they could build a simple new bridge next to the old one, with no ped or bike lanes, and then leave the old one up for those users.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: pderocco on September 15, 2025, 09:41:24 PMWell, since they certainly won't demolish the old bridge and then start building a new one, they could build a simple new bridge next to the old one, with no ped or bike lanes, and then leave the old one up for those users.

Caltrans "could" but seems intent on not doing that.  Granted that would certainly resolve much of the backlash. 

Seems like retaining older spans as pedestrian structures is mostly just a local agency thing now.  El Dorado County comes to mind with factoring in retaining the wooden/suspension Mosquito Bridge for pedestrian use.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: cahwyguy on September 15, 2025, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 08:44:16 PMThe arch spandrel bridge sketch isn't terrible, but nobody is going to ever stop and take photos of something like that.  Just my take but another cable stay span would be super cliche.  It would be weird seeing one on the smaller size though.

Well, they do take pictures of Cold Springs Tavern, and that bridge on I-15 (Bonsall, IIRC)? Those are arch bridges. Aren't some of the picturesque Route 1 bridges in Big Sur arch bridges as well?  The chucky/bloated look is common issue in modern bridge designs which try to emulate older era aesthetic.

But they could also build something out of modern materials that would look like a truss bridge, or come up with some other interesting design.

Put it this way, what is in the sketch hardly is exciting compared to most vintage arch concrete spandrels.  The sketch looks chunky instead of graceful or industrial.  Most modern designs come off as looking bloated whenever they try to riff an older design aesthetic.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 11:26:27 PM
The fog wasn't much help with photos in 2021, but I have the current Albion River Bridge in my Shoreline Highway album for Mendocino County.  I really wish that I had taken photos of the substructure back in 2008:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50853911171_4a7ebf3948_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ktMA4V)IMG_5203 (https://flic.kr/p/2ktMA4V) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: pderocco on September 16, 2025, 12:57:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2025, 10:00:30 PM
Quote from: pderocco on September 15, 2025, 09:41:24 PMWell, since they certainly won't demolish the old bridge and then start building a new one, they could build a simple new bridge next to the old one, with no ped or bike lanes, and then leave the old one up for those users.

Caltrans "could" but seems intent on not doing that.  Granted that would certainly resolve much of the backlash. 

Seems like retaining older spans as pedestrian structures is mostly just a local agency thing now.  El Dorado County comes to mind with factoring in retaining the wooden/suspension Mosquito Bridge for pedestrian use.
Or the Navajo Bridge.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2025, 12:59:36 PM
True, I was just trying to think of another timber highway bridge.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Voyager on September 16, 2025, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2025, 12:59:36 PMTrue, I was just trying to think of another timber highway bridge.

The Pudding Creek Bridge in Fort Bragg was repurposed for a walkway. It wasn't ever a highway bridge, but the idea is still the same.
Title: Re: Albion River Bridge on CA-1 gets a ‘death sentence’
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2025, 02:58:14 PM
Quote from: Voyager on September 16, 2025, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2025, 12:59:36 PMTrue, I was just trying to think of another timber highway bridge.

The Pudding Creek Bridge in Fort Bragg was repurposed for a walkway. It wasn't ever a highway bridge, but the idea is still the same.

Watched a sunset with my wife at that bridge:

https://flic.kr/p/2ktMoLE

https://flic.kr/p/2ktMqoC