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Title: Is This Too Far?
Post by: roadman65 on October 05, 2025, 11:27:14 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nV3Q64uqQGvfCZoD9?g_st=ac

Aren't exit guides to be placed at the start of the deceleration lane?

This one is placed way too far from the actual ramp departure IMO.  I thought the MUTCD has guidelines that strictly govern placement of signs.
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: pderocco on October 05, 2025, 11:31:57 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 05, 2025, 11:27:14 PMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/nV3Q64uqQGvfCZoD9?g_st=ac

Aren't exit guides to be placed at the start of the deceleration lane?

This one is placed way too far from the actual ramp departure IMO.  I thought the MUTCD has guidelines that strictly govern placement of signs.
I don't know the rules, but it looks wrong to me. I can see wanting to warn of a 15mph ramp well in advance, but instead of a diagonal arrow, it should say 1/2 MILE. I can see someone in a snowstorm plowing into the guardrail.
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 05, 2025, 11:36:53 PM
Dud
Quote from: roadman65 on October 05, 2025, 11:27:14 PMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/nV3Q64uqQGvfCZoD9?g_st=ac

Aren't exit guides to be placed at the start of the deceleration lane?

This one is placed way too far from the actual ramp departure IMO.  I thought the MUTCD has guidelines that strictly govern placement of signs.

Dude, you are the king of underwhelming.  With a bait headline like this thread title I was hoping for something more exciting than a nominal MUTCD gripe.
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: Rothman on October 06, 2025, 12:09:43 AM
Seems fine to me given the curve.
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 06, 2025, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 05, 2025, 11:36:53 PMDude, you are the king of underwhelming.

Kings are generally pretty overwhelming in and of themselves. This is more like, the assistant district manager of underwhelming.
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: hotdogPi on October 06, 2025, 08:59:27 AM
I've noticed that New Hampshire puts their exit arrow sign well before the point that Massachusetts would. I don't have that much experience with other states.
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: jmacswimmer on October 06, 2025, 10:34:53 AM
Interestingly enough, it used to be worse - the exit 146 sign used to be placed at the Country Ridge Rd overpass and was followed by a 2-mile sign for the South Midway Service Plaza (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0499829,-78.5268198,3a,48.9y,106.99h,87.5t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sydtfMChdS0VvL66qqPxk1w!2e0!5s20191001T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.5046594155720214%26panoid%3DydtfMChdS0VvL66qqPxk1w%26yaw%3D106.98809864220645!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTAwMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), but ~2020-2021 the positions were swapped when the signage was replaced. Definitely a weird sequence prior to that (and evidently the PTC agreed).
Title: Re: Is This Too Far?
Post by: 1995hoo on October 06, 2025, 10:56:54 AM
I'd say this one is worse. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/eC9gVQHWGYkWQAxF7) It's nine-tenths of a mile from that sign to the first of the two actual exit points and 1.1 miles to the second one (which exit point is open at any given time depends on which way the Shirley Highway reversible lanes are pointed at the time). It seems to me that sign should have a "Left lane" banner at the bottom or something similar other than an arrow. Both ramps also have their own overhead exit signs (https://maps.app.goo.gl/vp344AGLnbc8j7pJ9) when you reach the actual exit locations (https://maps.app.goo.gl/LpF25i6o2xhrDszRA).

In the location roadgeekteen mentions, I notice the hill immediately to the right of the road as you near the exit point. Maybe they deemed the terrain unsuitable for a ground-mounted sign of that size through there, as I see the sign is located on a flatter area?