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Title: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Andrew T. on October 31, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Since there seem to be few online resources focusing on the history and chronology of road sign designs, I decided to create one:

http://www.andrew-turnbull.net/signs.html

The source of reference for this was 80 years of MUTCDs and predecessor documents.  All of the graphics were created from scratch; with help from the Roadgeek symbol fonts and a bit of extra tracing.  Since this is ostensibly a first draft, there are bound to be a few omissions, errors, and uncertainties:  I'm unsure of the introduction year of the symbol signs for W11-7 through 10, for example.

After spending ten days preparing the site, I'll probably take a break before expanding it some more; but that doesn't mean that updates won't be on the horizon:  Digesting the 2009 MUTCD and adding route markers are on the "to do" list!
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on October 31, 2010, 12:38:38 PM
I like this already... :p
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: kurumi on October 31, 2010, 02:34:03 PM
This is quite good. Thanks!
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Brian556 on October 31, 2010, 02:46:52 PM
Very nice. One issue I noticed is that the diamond shaped double arrow sign (T-junction marker) was grouped with the safety zone signs instead of the rectangular double arrow. I think these should be grouped together since they have the smae meaning.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Andrew T. on October 31, 2010, 10:22:38 PM
Thank you, everyone!

Quote from: Brian556 on October 31, 2010, 02:46:52 PM
Very nice. One issue I noticed is that the diamond shaped double arrow sign (T-junction marker) was grouped with the safety zone signs instead of the rectangular double arrow. I think these should be grouped together since they have the smae meaning.
Actually, the 1948 MUTCD lists the double-arrow diamond sign for use with "loading and refuge islands;" in a separate section from the rectangular double arrow.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on October 31, 2010, 11:05:31 PM
very nice!  let me know if you need help with the route markers, as that is my area of expertise :)
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: J N Winkler on November 01, 2010, 08:01:43 AM
This is quite a good start.

I look forward to the D-series signs . . .
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: codyg1985 on November 01, 2010, 08:09:13 AM
This is awesome so far!
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: ctsignguy on November 01, 2010, 07:39:48 PM
An impressive start....

once you really get up and moving, you need photographs of the various signs (Jake and i once discussed something like this where we can put all the various STOP signs for instance, but this can go far beyond that!
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Brian556 on November 01, 2010, 09:54:20 PM
I have some of the old style signs you have on this page in my collection. I'd be willing to send you pictures of them if you should decide to go thru with this.

I could also see adding a link below each sign to a picture of the sign "in the wild" if possible. If no such photo can be located, a photo of one on somebody's wall would suffice.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Andrew T. on November 03, 2010, 01:45:03 PM
Thanks again.

Quote from: Brian556 on November 01, 2010, 09:54:20 PM
I have some of the old style signs you have on this page in my collection. I'd be willing to send you pictures of them if you should decide to go thru with this.

I could also see adding a link below each sign to a picture of the sign "in the wild" if possible. If no such photo can be located, a photo of one on somebody's wall would suffice.

I hadn't even thought of this earlier, but that's an excellent idea!
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Roadsign199qc on November 13, 2010, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on October 31, 2010, 12:38:38 PM
I like this already... :p

I like this too. / J'aime ça aussi.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: ctsignguy on November 25, 2010, 09:02:30 AM
A couple of signs that should be here

Early Sign at stoplights ( I KNOW there are earlier ones...just havent seen them)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2FStoponred.jpg&hash=6997cfea538a129fc61c8d42e41ff458c05df271)

FWHA design
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2FFHWAchance.jpg&hash=86c4cc53f199f2def36e27e895e55b205288c797)

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Andrew T. on November 28, 2010, 02:39:57 PM
Hi signguy,

Quote from: ctsignguy on November 25, 2010, 09:02:30 AM
A couple of signs that should be here

Early Sign at stoplights ( I KNOW there are earlier ones...just havent seen them)[/img]

I've had a hard time putting a date on that design.  Though some states were surely using it for decades before then, the earliest MUTCD I've seen "officially" referencing it is from 2003!

I think I'll pass on the warning sign, since it's "just" a cross between the curve and side road types.  Many uncommon variations of these exist, and I haven't bothered listing them all.

Thanks for sharing the pictures, though!
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Andrew T. on November 28, 2010, 04:08:36 PM
While on the topic of additions, I'd just like to mention that I finished revising the site.  Route markers are new, along with signs from the 2009 MUTCD and a couple photos.  (I'm not sure yet what the best format for including those would be.)
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Brian556 on November 29, 2010, 10:03:14 AM
One method for including photos would be a link under the sign image.Another option would be to give each sign type its own row, going from oldest to newest style, with photos below the image.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Brian556 on December 05, 2010, 04:53:07 PM
Concerning the SLIPPERY WHEN WET sign...
I noticed you have the "2003" version that has been slightly changed. I noticed a few of these on the road and thought they looked a little funny. I thought it was just a fluke, I didn't realize the specs had changed.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: rmsandw on January 15, 2011, 06:52:16 PM
Anyone have the sign for crosswalks that warn peds. that the walk time may be shortened by coming train?  Counld use one for my model layout.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: Brian556 on February 07, 2011, 07:57:17 PM
Andrew,
Would you consider adding the following signs/items so that we can see when the standard changed:
Small Guide Signs (non-frwy).......b/w to w/g
EXIT gore signs.........................b/w to w/g
object markers..........................b/w to b/y
railroad crossing gates................b/w to r/w
barricades(construction).............b/w to o/w
barricades (dead end).................b/w to r/w

Your site is great resource of information and has helped me increase my knowledge signifigantly as to when standards changed.
Title: Re: Field Guide to American Traffic Signs
Post by: hm insulators on February 08, 2011, 10:19:26 AM
Neat! :clap: There's some signs I've never seen in the field such as the "Pavement Ends" picture sign and the "No Hitchhiking" picture sign.

Also, I remember when I was a child, the speed limit signs (at least in California) were white on black. Also, before picture signs, the pedestrian crossing signs that I remember read, "PED XING" instead of "PEDESTRIAN CROSSING." Another California-only phenomenon?