How did they assign the colors? Did each US Route get its own color, or was it based on orientation? (Was one color for north-south routes, another for east-west?) From what I've seen, a few had the standard black-on-white, US 98 was white-on-black and then the other approved colors like red, blue, green and brown were used.
The colors seem to have been assigned with these guidelines in mind:
Red: Two-digit north-south
Green: Two-digit north-south (Alternate color)
Yellow: Three-digit
Brown: Three-digit (Alternate color)
Blue: Two-digit east-west
The rule that tended to trump all others was that duplication of colors along routes that touched was avoided...which is why 17, 192, and 331 deviated from these "guidelines," and why 41 and 98 were assigned unique colors of their own.
Quote from: Andrew T. on November 05, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
The colors seem to have been assigned with these guidelines in mind:
Red: Two-digit north-south
Green: Two-digit north-south (Alternate color)
Yellow: Three-digit
Brown: Three-digit (Alternate color)
Blue: Two-digit east-west
The rule that tended to trump all others was that duplication of colors along routes that touched was avoided...which is why 17, 192, and 331 deviated from these "guidelines," and why 41 and 98 were assigned unique colors of their own.
The three brown routes were not alternating. US 221, US 129, and US 441 are in a linear alignment. US 319 and US 231 were in line of each other for North-South routes as well.
It's funny to me, because for years I thought there were more colors (orange, burgundy...for example), but they were just faded colors on those signs. And now they're almost all gone.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fgtp%2Fsebring%2Fgreen27sign.jpg&hash=835d015f7d81ec1182ad70e9491c2255ab711fbc)
There are definitely orange... http://www.us-highways.com/flausa.htm is your definitive source.
It's nice to know my memory hadn't faded, either!
Cannot say I've seen an orange US 41 sign in over a decade. :(
Quote from: formulanone on May 20, 2011, 07:12:53 AM
Cannot say I've seen an orange US 41 sign in over a decade. :(
they're still out there - mainly on county-road junctions with 41 in the northern part of the state.
I believe this spectacular overhead assembly, stamped 1983 on the back, still exists, south of Tampa no less.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/FL/FL19560415i2.jpg)
Looks like Sarasota to me, one of my favorite cities to visit.
Quote from: Daniel Fiddler on May 20, 2011, 07:20:50 PM
Looks like Sarasota to me, one of my favorite cities to visit.
correct. not too far from I-75.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2Fflaus41.jpg&hash=40f98db7c900cc63b79c732bd1a8d9ffe1638dbc)
Glad i landed this one a few years back....orange is very hard to keep looking nice in the Florida heat
Topic's been dead for a bit, but has anyone compiled a list of known colored US shields left in Florida? I stumbled across one in Walton County on a side road on streetview, and was wondering if it was known already or not.
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on July 03, 2011, 09:58:02 PM
Topic's been dead for a bit, but has anyone compiled a list of known colored US shields left in Florida? I stumbled across one in Walton County on a side road on streetview, and was wondering if it was known already or not.
I have a list in my head of them, and between flaroads and myself, there is a Florida Rand with dots highlighted of where we have found both colored US shields and Keys state roads shields.
If the Walton shield you found was the reverse black/white US 98 on CR 83, it is now gone.
Nope, it's a blue JCT 90 sign. Not sure what the side road its on is numbered because streetview imagery is not clear enough and I don't trust Google's labels. It's near Mossy Head.
Does a colored one on a BGS count? There's one on the Beachline for the US 1 Cocoa/Titusville exit eastbound...
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Does a colored one on a BGS count? There's one on the Beachline for the US 1 Cocoa/Titusville exit eastbound...
Yes they count:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages095%2Fi-095_st_03.jpg&hash=ead87d3c666f2138d53a1ea9b0bdf081895ff18d)
There were two still remaining in downtown Miami for U.S. 1 until their recent replacement...
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Does a colored one on a BGS count? There's one on the Beachline for the US 1 Cocoa/Titusville exit eastbound...
really? I don't think I've seen that one. can you grab us a photo?
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Does a colored one on a BGS count? There's one on the Beachline for the US 1 Cocoa/Titusville exit eastbound...
Are you sure? I've taken that exit multiple times and would have remembered seeing it. I've never taken the WB exit off of the beachline at US1 though so perhaps it's there?
Quote from: realjd on July 11, 2011, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Does a colored one on a BGS count? There's one on the Beachline for the US 1 Cocoa/Titusville exit eastbound...
Are you sure? I've taken that exit multiple times and would have remembered seeing it. I've never taken the WB exit off of the beachline at US1 though so perhaps it's there?
I checked Google Earth and it's not there. Guess I'm gonna have to take my camera out there later on this week-I know it was there years past, but that's what you get when you drive a route so many times you take for granted what's there.
Arise, arise, fallen thread of yore...
Reviving the topic as relevant, I discovered a pair of (completely-faded, because yellow) colored US 319 shields on County Road 370 (JCT and trailblazer) in Franklin County, just south of the Ochlocknee River.
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: realjd on July 11, 2011, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Does a colored one on a BGS count? There's one on the Beachline for the US 1 Cocoa/Titusville exit eastbound...
Are you sure? I've taken that exit multiple times and would have remembered seeing it. I've never taken the WB exit off of the beachline at US1 though so perhaps it's there?
I checked Google Earth and it's not there. Guess I'm gonna have to take my camera out there later on this week-I know it was there years past, but that's what you get when you drive a route so many times you take for granted what's there.
Even in the heyday of colored shields the only one i recall on BGS was at the end of i95 in Miami having a red 1 shield.
When i was real little my earliest memories, mid to late1970s, i recall in Florida the BGS did not have shields but text "U.S. 17" or "Fla. 228" etc. When shields were put on BGS they were white.
If colored US shields are forbidden, or at least not paid for, why are colored SR shields allowed in states like California, Minnesota and Kansas on federally funded projects
LGMS428
Quote from: Aerobird on March 18, 2017, 01:40:16 AM
Arise, arise, fallen thread of yore...
Reviving the topic as relevant, I discovered a pair of (completely-faded, because yellow) colored US 319 shields on County Road 370 (JCT and trailblazer) in Franklin County, just south of the Ochlocknee River.
There is one more north of the Ochlocokonee River on County Road 299 leading east to U.S. 319. Was still there in January 2016.
I thought in today's world you were supposed to call them "shields of color." :bigass:
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 18, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
I thought in today's world you were supposed to call them "shields of color." :bigass:
LMAO
LGMS428
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 18, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
I thought in today's world you were supposed to call them "shields of color." :bigass:
LOL :-D
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 18, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
I thought in today's world you were supposed to call them "shields of color." :bigass:
So is Florida now "chromatically challenged?"
Hoping we can take stock as to what colored shields are still around?
Here's what I know of as of June 2018:
The US-17/US-92 shields are still up in Davenport, FL.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3797/18998958560_d829e3de57_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uWSCt3)
and only one US-27 shield remains in Lake Placid.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4486/37863798386_21f07a4b14_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFTS77)
Boca Raton has that red US 1 and (ugly) A1A uni-shield, which is from 1992 (the year before new installs were "banned"):
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5106/5749218177_6392eeff6a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9L3fgk)
Fort Lauderdale / Dania Beach has some red US 1 signs, though they have stickers from 2003 on the back:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/9365084451_2009259e15_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fgyvki)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5505/9365084657_784d756d13_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fgyvoR)
There's a black US 98 shield in Carrabelle:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7501/15207090054_e5b31d7a75_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/paNj4Q)
Faded yellow US 231 sign in Alford:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8620/16087940664_9704160ab5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qvCUgj)
I've heard there's some more around Panama City, some US 231 and US 98 colored shields.
There's some blue US 90 shields in Sneeds and Marriana, but I don't have photos; was travelling but couldn't stop.
I haven't seen an orange US 41 shield in decades...Sarasota had the last known set of them, but this assembly (https://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=FL19820411) was removed back in 2014-15. Haven't seen any recent photos of US 441, 331, 221, 129, 29, nor 19 shields. There were also "inverse" shields of several Alternate and Business Routes, but can't think of any recent sightings.
There's also some scattered inverse white-on-black shields which are just errors...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8569/28201921092_a9e0ed7cb6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JY7dAQ)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5578/31445436435_24884743c2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PUJ5Ha)
Kissimmee, FL just added some Black US 192 shields as part of the long Oak Street widening. I have to find my photos and post em as they are regulation size.
Though US 192 used to have green shields, again these shields are a design error as US 98 only used black in the day.
Two still stand in Leesburg, at either end of Citizens Blvd. They are not FDOT installs, as they only have one bolt per bracket:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8221139,-81.8869941,3a,75y,328.76h,88.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJiazXyeWNg0x9wi4aiAGrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8221139,-81.8869941,3a,75y,328.76h,88.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJiazXyeWNg0x9wi4aiAGrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8221837,-81.8849875,3a,20y,105.92h,89.79t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sP75BbucEtSWE1bbCX-mtTQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DP75BbucEtSWE1bbCX-mtTQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D73.20669%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8221837,-81.8849875,3a,20y,105.92h,89.79t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sP75BbucEtSWE1bbCX-mtTQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DP75BbucEtSWE1bbCX-mtTQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D73.20669%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Interesting now as the NB 441 to SB 27 movement is to use that street as the new US 27 & 441 intersection reconfiguration eliminates left turns from NB 441 to SB 27. So that there is a follow up shield even though the directions are not listed. However, who is going to complain in the world of Waze and other GPSes verbally telling you how to get to point B.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 23, 2018, 11:46:35 AM
Interesting now as the NB 441 to SB 27 movement is to use that street as the new US 27 & 441 intersection reconfiguration eliminates left turns from NB 441 to SB 27. So that there is a follow up shield even though the directions are not listed. However, who is going to complain in the world of Waze and other GPSes verbally telling you how to get to point B.
Google Maps shows a movement from NB US 441 to SB US 27: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8251731,-81.8863666,187m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8251731,-81.8863666,187m/data=!3m1!1e3)
Quote from: Brian556 on June 23, 2018, 01:17:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 23, 2018, 11:46:35 AM
Interesting now as the NB 441 to SB 27 movement is to use that street as the new US 27 & 441 intersection reconfiguration eliminates left turns from NB 441 to SB 27. So that there is a follow up shield even though the directions are not listed. However, who is going to complain in the world of Waze and other GPSes verbally telling you how to get to point B.
Google Maps shows a movement from NB US 441 to SB US 27: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8251731,-81.8863666,187m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.8251731,-81.8863666,187m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I am still digging through my many photos I took on 4/28. They had a TO US 27 SB shield up on NB 441 at Citizens.
Edit: It actually is an overhead there with it posted as US 27 South Clermont even though Citizens is not, but straight through US 441 does list it TO US 27 North which is correct. Whether that is for a shortcut, I did not photograph the actual US 441 NB into US 27 itself to see as I only did so only going SB at the split. It might be unsigned there due to it being signed earlier I have no photo documentation.
https://goo.gl/maps/UJgKJcCfytj Its not signed. So I stand corrected, as I remembered the fact there was no signs there and the fact that Citizens is signed for the actual movement. https://goo.gl/maps/GNknn4rmQ1G2
Is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1397271,-84.3138835,3a,60.7y,8.58h,75.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdtkjIFBc50niYvnvtlGMjA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664) 98 still around?
I also knew of another 98 on gmaps, trying to remember where it was.
Quote from: clef on June 27, 2018, 10:44:49 PM
Is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1397271,-84.3138835,3a,60.7y,8.58h,75.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdtkjIFBc50niYvnvtlGMjA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664) 98 still around?
I also knew of another 98 on gmaps, trying to remember where it was.
There was one in Port St. Joe, FL when I was there in 2016. Will check on my trip back down this summer.
Took these in last month. Still standing:
US-17 Winter Haven, FL
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1909/44450722190_b4f3c4ae21_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aHXz4U)
Davenport, FL
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4888/44450722350_6ef97a07f5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aHXz7E)
Lake Placid, FL
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4889/44421243950_51285186c2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aFmudo)
Why was US 41 the only orange color shield used, when many other colors like brown, yellow, green, and red were duplicated over and over?
I know US 98 had to be its own color due to it intersecting every US highway in Florida other than US 23. Heck US 23 could have been Orange to avoid it being used for 4 different routes as that route only clashes with US 1, US 17, and US 301. I can see why US 23 was not also black as that was the least attractive of all the colors, but orange would have worked for US 23.