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Title: CA-69
Post by: Quillz on November 14, 2010, 05:07:47 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_245

Does anyone know why CA-69 was renumbered to CA-245? I see no reason why it had to be renumbered, especially since I imagine the original CA-69 dates back to the 1930s or so.
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: NE2 on November 14, 2010, 06:35:43 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/69_(sex_position)
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: Quillz on November 14, 2010, 01:21:49 PM
I thought of that, but I don't think that's the reason.
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: NE2 on November 14, 2010, 04:58:49 PM
Why not? It's the reason other highway 69s have been changed. In Utah:
"The SR-69 route signs have become a collectors' item for a large number of individuals, resulting in a large expense for us in replacing the signs. We suspect it is college students that are taking most of the signs, as there is a very significant loss in SR-69 sign panels during the college school year. We lose approximately 35 sign panels each year from this route. Often, the post is also damaged - requiring replacement. We do not experience losses anywhere close to this magnitude on any other route."
http://www.udot.utah.gov/main/uconowner.gf?n=200609181039191
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: Quillz on November 15, 2010, 12:27:11 AM
Ah, I suppose that could be the reason, it's really the only thing I could think of at all.

It'd be nice if CalTRANS actually had a nice little archive that explained why they make changes to the route numbers from time to time. Some are obvious, some aren't.
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: TheStranger on November 15, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 15, 2010, 12:27:11 AM
It'd be nice if CalTRANS actually had a nice little archive that explained why they make changes to the route numbers from time to time. Some are obvious, some aren't.

Wholesale state route renumberings after 1964 aren't particularly common - i.e. 117 to 905 in San Diego being one of the few examples I can think of.

Most cases of renumbering usually occur as a result of a realignment, i.e. 371, 330.
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: Bickendan on November 24, 2010, 02:29:16 AM
OR 69 got preemptively switched to 569 before the route got signed to prevent the 69 shenanigans.
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: Quillz on November 24, 2010, 04:50:04 AM
On an unrelated note, I'm driving to Three Rivers later today, off of Route 198. I will be passing by CA-245, former CA-69.
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: cahwyguy on December 27, 2010, 06:05:23 PM
My notes show "In 1972, Chapter 1216 repealed the definition of the route and renumbered it as Route 245. "

You would need to go to the 1972 legislative records and look at the text of the assembly or senate bill that produced Chapter 1216 of the codes that year. That would usually provide the rationale behind the renumbering. You can find those legislative chapters at http://192.234.213.35/clerkarchive/archive/Statutes/
Title: Re: CA-69
Post by: mapman on January 04, 2011, 02:32:48 AM
I just checked the text of Chapter 1216, and unfortunately, it doesn't provide any reasoning behind the route number change.   :banghead: