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Title: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:58:27 AM
I thought this might be kind of fun to do.  The ones that I can think of offhand are M-27 (former US-27) from north of Indian River to Cheboygan in Michigan, M-10 in Detroit (former US-10), CA-99 (former US-99) in California, Oklahoma and Arizona have portions of U.S. Route 66 that are now state highway 66's, and Oregon has Org. 99E + 99w, (former US-99E + 99W).

This one may or may not count (you be the judge), but US-466 in California is now CA-46, just removing one of the sixes. :coffee:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2010, 10:10:50 AM
US 230, US 309, and US 611 all went to PA state routes. US 222 south of Conowingo, MD got reduced to MD 222.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Michael in Philly on November 25, 2010, 10:31:01 AM
Md. 140 between Baltimore and Westminster used to be US 140.  (Above Westminster, I believe 140 went up to Gettysburg on what is now Md./Pa. 97, whereas Md. 140 keeps going west-northwest.)  Md. 213 on the Eastern Shore mostly matches old US 213.  Parts of US 15 are now NY 15.  Are Pa. 120 and Pa. 106 former US routes?
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: oscar on November 25, 2010, 10:42:28 AM
Just for CA, all of US 299, and parts of US 60 and US 91.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: froggie on November 25, 2010, 11:14:31 AM
Quote(Above Westminster, I believe 140 went up to Gettysburg on what is now Md./Pa. 97, whereas Md. 140 keeps going west-northwest.)

Correct.

QuoteAre Pa. 120 and Pa. 106 former US routes?

Yes, though former US 106 ran a lot farther than today's PA 106.


Back on topic, in Minnesota we have MN 61 and MN 65, both former extensions of the respective US routes, though US 65 only went as far as US 2 and then only for a couple years.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: triplemultiplex on November 25, 2010, 11:32:39 AM
^^
Wasn't MN 210 another former US highway?

MN also has some of old US 16 as MN 16 now, one that Wisconsin shares as well.  Though in Wisconsin's case, the entirety of US 16 in the state is now WI 16.

If I remember correctly, WI 110 started life as a short-lived US hwy between Fremont and Oshkosh.  The US highway changes in the last decade have removed WI 110 from all but a tiny, and arguably unnecessary, segment of the historic US 110 routing.  Really it should only exist north of Weyauwega.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: J N Winkler on November 25, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
A few examples from Kansas (there are possibly others):

*  K-383--former US 383.

*  K-154 (now no longer extant, having been supplanted by US 400)--former US 154.

*  K-156--former US 156.

There is an example in the other direction:  much of former K-96 east of Wichita is now under US 400.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: US71 on November 25, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
Part of AR 59 was once US 59.

MO 66, OK 66, K-66 were all US 66

I think there's an OK 270 that was once US 270.

Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: froggie on November 25, 2010, 12:24:54 PM
QuoteWasn't MN 210 another former US highway?

And MN 371 too, for that matter...yet another I forgot earlier.

But unlike MN 371 (all of which was part of US 371), the former US 210 only occupied part of today's MN 210...from Motley over to Carlton.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: ctsignguy on November 25, 2010, 12:29:06 PM
Old US 25 in Ohio is only marked now by Ohio 25 south of Bowling Green north to Toledo...the rest of the way down to Cincinnati, various incarnations of County Road 25A

Old US 21 is now Ohio 21 from I-77/I-480 in Cuyohoga Heights south to US 250.  The rest of old US 21 is a mix of county roads and one Ohio route  (Oh 821, approx 48 miles between Ohio 60 and I-77)
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Quillz on November 25, 2010, 12:52:27 PM
OR-126 used to be US 126.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: RustyK on November 25, 2010, 12:52:57 PM
WA-99 replaces the US-99 routing through the Seattle/Tacoma area, there's a short WA-10 in central washington that was part of US-10.  WA-410 over US 410.  I think that's it, unless I'm forgetting something in eastern WA.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: hbelkins on November 25, 2010, 12:57:06 PM
Part of US 227 in Kentucky (from near Georgetown to Carrollton) became KY 227. The portion from Paris to White Hall became KY 627.

This, other than the overlapped part of US 460 that ran concurrently with US 60 from Frankfort west to Louisville, is the only decommissioned US route I can think of in the Bluegrass State. And 227 probably bit the dust because it was less than 300 miles and only was in one state.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: NE2 on November 25, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
VA 360 is a weird case - US 360 was realigned and the old route became a state route.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Jim on November 25, 2010, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 25, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
VA 360 is a weird case - US 360 was realigned and the old route became a state route.

That's definitely one of the weirdest:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20080620%2Fva344us360va360.jpg&hash=7f632b09af5798265f1ef404b2047a3ce4947a69)

To add another: US 104 --> NY 104.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Michael in Philly on November 25, 2010, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: Jim on November 25, 2010, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 25, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
VA 360 is a weird case - US 360 was realigned and the old route became a state route.

That's definitely one of the weirdest:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20080620%2Fva344us360va360.jpg&hash=7f632b09af5798265f1ef404b2047a3ce4947a69)

To add another: US 104 --> NY 104.


That type of sign would be useful at the point just north of Wilmington, Del., where US 202 (coming from the north) gets onto I-95 and the old 202 continues into the city as Del. 202.  Although I was there the other day and they just sign the route into Wilmington as "Wilmington," without the number, so at least people aren't having to choose between two different "202 South"s....

Someone mentioned Md. 222; at the other end of US 222, there's a Pa. 222 - at I-78, US 222 now ends and the old route into Allentown is Pa. 222.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: mightyace on November 25, 2010, 02:45:06 PM
PA 230, IIRC is old US 230.

PA 120 was US 120.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: PAHighways on November 25, 2010, 04:30:26 PM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on November 25, 2010, 10:31:01 AMAre Pa. 120 and Pa. 106 former US routes?

Yes (http://www.pahighways.com/us/decommissioned/US120.html) and yes (http://www.pahighways.com/us/decommissioned/US106.html).
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: PAHighways on November 25, 2010, 04:32:49 PM
Quote from: mightyace on November 25, 2010, 02:45:06 PMPA 230, IIRC is old US 230.

It is indeed. (http://www.pahighways.com/us/decommissioned/US230.html)
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 07:07:32 PM
This one is in reverse, but in c.1938, M-131 from west of Fife Lake to Petoskey in Michigan became an extention of US-131. :coffee:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Scott5114 on November 25, 2010, 11:52:53 PM
Don't forget, K-66 and MO-66 are also parts of old US 66.

Somewhat similar to the VA example, OK-270 is an old alignment of US-270 before the US route was shifted to follow I-40.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: national highway 1 on November 26, 2010, 02:08:23 AM
PA 611 was US 611.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Crewdawg on November 26, 2010, 10:09:22 AM
AZ 89 and AZ 89A former US 89 and US 89A
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: US71 on November 26, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 25, 2010, 11:52:53 PM
Don't forget, K-66 and MO-66 are also parts of old US 66.

You forgot OK 66  :-P



Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: national highway 1 on November 26, 2010, 03:51:41 PM
NM & AZ 80 were part of US 80 until 1989.
TX SH 290 was US 290 until I-10 supplanted it.
TX SH 75 & TX SH 81 were once parts of US 75 & US 81 until being replaced by I-45 & I-35 respectively.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Scott5114 on November 26, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
Quote from: US71 on November 26, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 25, 2010, 11:52:53 PM
Don't forget, K-66 and MO-66 are also parts of old US 66.

You forgot OK 66  :-P

It was mentioned in the first post! :spin:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: US71 on November 26, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 26, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
Quote from: US71 on November 26, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 25, 2010, 11:52:53 PM
Don't forget, K-66 and MO-66 are also parts of old US 66.

You forgot OK 66  :-P

It was mentioned in the first post! :spin:

As was K66 and MO 66 !  :pan: :pan:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Scott5114 on November 26, 2010, 10:21:12 PM
Are you sure? :spin:

Quote from: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:58:27 AM
I thought this might be kind of fun to do.  The ones that I can think of offhand are M-27 (former US-27) from north of Indian River to Cheboygan in Michigan, M-10 in Detroit (former US-10), CA-99 (former US-99) in California, Oklahoma and Arizona have portions of U.S. Route 66 that are now state highway 66's, and Oregon has Org. 99E + 99w, (former US-99E + 99W).

This one may or may not count (you be the judge), but US-466 in California is now CA-46, just removing one of the sixes. :coffee:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: huskeroadgeek on November 27, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
The former NE 38 was a vestige of the old US 38. A couple of others: US 163 is now IA 163. IL 54 is a former eastward extension of US 54.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: national highway 1 on November 27, 2010, 02:42:46 AM
MN 61 and MN 65 were once parts of US 61 & US 65.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Tom on November 27, 2010, 08:31:14 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 26, 2010, 10:21:12 PM
Are you sure? :spin:

Quote from: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:58:27 AM
I thought this might be kind of fun to do.  The ones that I can think of offhand are M-27 (former US-27) from north of Indian River to Cheboygan in Michigan, M-10 in Detroit (former US-10), CA-99 (former US-99) in California, Oklahoma and Arizona have portions of U.S. Route 66 that are now state highway 66's, and Oregon has Org. 99E + 99w, (former US-99E + 99W).

This one may or may not count (you be the judge), but US-466 in California is now CA-46, just removing one of the sixes. :coffee:

Well, if you mean the part highlighted in red, my 2007 Rand McNally Road Atlas shows AZ-66 from I-40's Exit 139 to Exit 53, OK-66 from I-44's (Will Rogers Turnpike) Exit 289 to US-412/I-44. :coffee:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Tom on November 27, 2010, 08:57:07 AM
I'm extending this topic a little further to include federal, state, or provincial highways that were returned to a local control with the same number.  In the Dominion of Canada, Ontario's Hwy 46 became Victoria County Rd. 46, and then on another municipal level with the same number.  I'll let the following article explain it a little better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_46_(Ontario)  :coffee:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: NE2 on November 27, 2010, 09:44:04 AM
Well Ontario has a lot of those, and so does Florida. No point in listing them all.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on November 27, 2010, 12:35:37 PM
Indeed, Ontario downloaded over 5,000 km of highways to counties and other local authorities in 1997 and 1998. Therefore, the instances of provincial highways becoming county roads with the same number are extremely common.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 04:05:26 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but CA-195 is a remainder of the former US-195. Another portion of the route became CA-177.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: corco on November 27, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
Uh...wait. When did US-195 go into California? It was commissioned in 26 as the Lewiston ID -> Sandpoint ID road via Pullman WA and Spokane WA and it still follows a truncated part of that corridor.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: NE2 on November 27, 2010, 05:29:04 PM
Quillz, are you looking for the fictional highways forum?
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: US71 on November 27, 2010, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: corco on November 27, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
Uh...wait. When did US-195 go into California? It was commissioned in 26 as the Lewiston ID -> Sandpoint ID road via Pullman WA and Spokane WA and it still follows a truncated part of that corridor.

From Wikipedia:

US 195 was established and planned in the original 1926 plan for the U.S. highway system. When US 195 was established, the highway combined different highways together. In Idaho, US 195 was co-signed with U.S. Route 95 and a short segment of Sampson Trail Y. In Washington, US 195 was co-signed with PSH 3 ED, part of PSH 3 CP, and part of PSH 3. The original northern terminus was in Sandpoint, Idaho, and the route from the current terminus to Sandpoint was co-signed U.S. Route 2. This section was replaced fully by US 2 in 1969.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 11:11:28 PM
Quote from: corco on November 27, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
Uh...wait. When did US-195 go into California? It was commissioned in 26 as the Lewiston ID -> Sandpoint ID road via Pullman WA and Spokane WA and it still follows a truncated part of that corridor.
I based my post off this info:

Constructed in the 1940's it was the former U.S. Highway 195 which connected with the former U.S. Routes 60/70 and then Box Canyon Road/Pierce Street to Mecca located near the Salton Sea.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: US71 on November 27, 2010, 11:42:38 PM
Quote from: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 11:11:28 PM
Quote from: corco on November 27, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
Uh...wait. When did US-195 go into California? It was commissioned in 26 as the Lewiston ID -> Sandpoint ID road via Pullman WA and Spokane WA and it still follows a truncated part of that corridor.
I based my post off this info:

Constructed in the 1940's it was the former U.S. Highway 195 which connected with the former U.S. Routes 60/70 and then Box Canyon Road/Pierce Street to Mecca located near the Salton Sea.

Source, please?
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: corco on November 27, 2010, 11:49:28 PM
It's from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_177

- which is uncited and flat wrong. There's lots of cool sites that show lots of information about US highways that are better than wikipedia (see us-highways.com and usends.com, among others), and I have yet to see a California US 195 mentioned on any of them.

Not your fault, obviously- it just irritates me how much random bad information is on Wikipedia. A lack of information is one thing, but blatantly bad information sucks. Where did that line even come from? It's like some random dude decided to just write a bunch of stuff and call it good. No information is better than bad information. Ugh.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: national highway 1 on November 28, 2010, 12:41:26 AM
 Wasn't pre-1964 CA 195 planned to be part of what is now US 95?
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: NE2 on November 28, 2010, 03:52:54 AM
Quote from: corco on November 27, 2010, 11:49:28 PM
Not your fault, obviously- it just irritates me how much random bad information is on Wikipedia. A lack of information is one thing, but blatantly bad information sucks. Where did that line even come from? It's like some random dude decided to just write a bunch of stuff and call it good. No information is better than bad information. Ugh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=California_State_Route_177&diff=218209071&oldid=213342290
Yep, some random dude.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: MDOTFanFB on December 24, 2010, 11:06:06 AM
Old U.S. 25 in Michigan is now designated only as M-25 from Port Huron to Port Austin, M-3 from just west of New Baltimore to Detroit, M-85 in southwest Detroit and M-125 from just north of Monroe to the Ohio state line.

Old U.S. 10 on the Lodge Freeway in Detroit and Southfield, MI is now designated M-10. The portion that existed on Telegraph Road north of the Lodge is now an extension of U.S. 24.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: vdeane on December 24, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
US 15 -> NY 15
US 104 -> NY 104
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Laura on December 24, 2010, 11:56:51 AM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on November 25, 2010, 10:31:01 AM
Md. 213 on the Eastern Shore mostly matches old US 213.

Indeed! The original US 213 extended from Elkton, MD down to Ocean City. After the Bay Bridge was built, US 50 took over the section of 213 from Wye Mills down to OC. In the 1970's, after the US designation was dropped, the route also took over MD 280's designation from US 40 in Elkton north to the PA line.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: Brandon on December 24, 2010, 01:04:16 PM
Illinois has a bizarre one that's phonetic rather than actual.  US-30A became IL-38.  Sound it out.  :spin:
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: US71 on December 24, 2010, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 24, 2010, 01:04:16 PM
Illinois has a bizarre one that's phonetic rather than actual.  US-30A became IL-38.  Sound it out.  :spin:

US 54 east of Springfield became IL 54

Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: AZDude on December 24, 2010, 04:01:59 PM
A portion of US 91 in Arizona became Mohave County Route 91.
Title: Re: List of U.S. highways that went state with the same number
Post by: national highway 1 on December 24, 2010, 06:57:15 PM
AZ 80 & NM 80 were once part of US 80 until 1989.