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Title: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Mergingtraffic on November 27, 2010, 04:29:34 PM
I guess I never thought of it before, but I-84 on both sides of the conutry only has one even ended 3di.
I-684

and only 2 odd ended 3di.

I-184 and I-384

Any others that come to mind?

or any that use up all the 3dis including odd and even?
I-90 and I-95 come to mind.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: froggie on November 27, 2010, 04:32:54 PM
Only one state and 2-digit route uses all the potential 3-digits...that being I-90 in New York.  I-95 doesn't.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: cu2010 on November 27, 2010, 05:16:21 PM
The two I-86's have exactly zero 3di's...

17 and 19 also have zero, along with the entire state of Arizona!
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: njroadhorse on November 27, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
I-43 has none, as well as I-4, I-8, and I-24.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Alex on November 27, 2010, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: doofy103 on November 27, 2010, 04:29:34 PM
I guess I never thought of it before, but I-84 on both sides of the conutry only has one even ended 3di.
I-684

and only 2 odd ended 3di.

I-184 and I-384

Any others that come to mind?

or any that use up all the 3dis including odd and even?
I-90 and I-95 come to mind.

Well I-84 did have I-284 and I-484 planned but never built...
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Ian on November 27, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: corco on November 27, 2010, 08:23:51 PM
I-25 only has I-225, the western I-76 doesn't have any, I-27 doesn't have any
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Grzrd on November 27, 2010, 08:36:56 PM
I-4 has no 3dis, but it has a terminus with a 3di, I-275.
I-12 has no 3dis, but somewhat interesting that its eastern terminus is with 2 separate 2dis, I-59 and I-10.
I-49 has no 3dis (may change in future).

EDIT

Quote from: njroadhorse on November 27, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
I-43 has none, as well as I-4, I-8, and I-24.
Sorry, I missed the above I-4 before I posted.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: rickmastfan67 on November 27, 2010, 08:39:09 PM
I-68 has none.
I-79 has two (I-279 and I-579).
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Grzrd on November 27, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
I believe US 27 in Chattanooga is still unsigned I-124.
If so, I-24 has no signed 3dis and one unsigned 3di.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: froggie on November 27, 2010, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: njroadhorseI-43 has none, as well as I-4, I-8, and I-24.

Quote from: GrzrdI believe US 27 in Chattanooga is still unsigned I-124.

Grzrd is correct here, at least south of the Tennessee River.  The south end of the river bridge is the official terminus.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 10:53:59 PM
15 only has 115, 215 and 315, IIRC.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 10:54:45 PM
Also, I-8 has no 3di.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: corco on November 27, 2010, 10:56:44 PM
Quote15 only has 115, 215 and 315, IIRC.

And 515
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: corco on November 27, 2010, 10:56:44 PM
Quote15 only has 115, 215 and 315, IIRC.

And 515
Yup, remembered Las Vegas just after posting.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on November 27, 2010, 11:05:37 PM
I-89 has only one, in Burlington, which is only one mile.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: hbelkins on November 27, 2010, 11:10:36 PM
Didn't see I-66 mentioned.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
4, 8, 12, 17, 19, 27, 39, 49, 57, 66, 86, 97, 99 all have no 3di. (Posted this off the top of my head, probably wrong about a few.)
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: akotchi on November 27, 2010, 11:31:12 PM
I believe I-80 uses all the possible 3di combinations in its run cross-country, albeit not all in one state.

Neither of the I-88s have 3di's.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: rickmastfan67 on November 27, 2010, 11:46:52 PM
Quote from: Quillz on November 27, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
4, 8, 12, 17, 19, 27, 37, 39, 43, 49, 57, 66, 68, 73, 86, 88, 97, 99 all have no 3di. (Posted this off the top of my head, probably wrong about a few.)

Updated your list above with the missing ones.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 27, 2010, 11:55:12 PM
I-72 & I-74 have one 3di each.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Grzrd on November 27, 2010, 11:56:42 PM
I-44 has one signed 3di (I-244 Tulsa), one unsigned 3di (I-444 Tulsa), and one decommissioned 3di (I-244 St. Louis, now I-270).
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: national highway 1 on November 28, 2010, 12:39:35 AM
I-57 is the longest interstate without a 3di.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: mapman1071 on November 28, 2010, 01:57:01 AM
Quote from: Grzrd on November 27, 2010, 08:36:56 PM
I-4 has no 3dis, but it has a terminus with a 3di, I-275.
I-12 has no 3dis, but somewhat interesting that its eastern terminus is with 2 separate 2dis, I-59 and I-10.
I-49 has no 3dis (may change in future).

EDIT

Quote from: njroadhorse on November 27, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
I-43 has none, as well as I-4, I-8, and I-24.
Sorry, I missed the above I-4 before I posted.

I-12 should be a I-x10
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: mapman1071 on November 28, 2010, 02:00:41 AM
Quote from: corco on November 27, 2010, 10:56:44 PM
Quote15 only has 115, 215 and 315, IIRC.

And 515

I-515 May be decommissioned and renumbered I-11
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Bickendan on November 28, 2010, 05:05:03 AM
Let's do this right and use Kurumi's 3di list.

A1: None
A2: None
A3: None
A4: None
H1: H201
H2: None.
H3: None.
PR1: None.
PR2: None.
PR3: None.
I-4: None.
I-5: Uses all nine spread across three states. 105: 2. 205: 2. 305: 1. 405: 3. 505: 1. 605: 1. 705: 1. 805: 1. 905: 1 (future)
I-8: None.
I-10: 810 not used. 110: 4. 210: 2. 310: 1. 410: 1. 510: 1. 610: 2. 710: 1. 910: 1.
I-12: None.
I-15: 115, 215, 315 and 515. 215 has three instances.
I-16: 516
I-17: None.
I-19: None.
I-20: 220, 520, 820. 220 has two instances.
I-24: 124
I-25: 225
I-26: 126, 526
I-27: None.
I-29: 129, 229. 229 has two instances.
I-30: 130 (future), 430, 530, 630, 730 (proposed)
I-35: 135, 235, 335, 435, 535, 635, 35W, 35E. 235 has three instances, 635, 35W and 35E have two.
I-37: None.
I-38: 238 (there is no I-38)
I-39: None.
I-40: 140: 2 (one future). 240: 3. 440: 3. 540: 2. 640:1 . 840: 2 (both future).
I-43: None.
I-44: 244
I-45: 345
I-55: 155, 255, 355, 555 (future). 155 has two instances.
I-57: None.
I-59: 359, 459, 759
I-64: 164, 264, 464, 564, 664. 264 has two instances.
I-65: 165, 265, 465, 565, 865. 265 has two instances.
I-66: None.
I-68: None.
I-69: 169 (proposed), 269 (proposed), 469.
I-70: 170: 1. 270: 4. 370: 1 (not counting MO 370). 470: 3 (not counting CO E-470). 670: 2.
I-71: 271, 471.
I-72: 172.
I-74: 174 (proposed), 274 (proposed), 474.
I-75: 175: 2 (one proposed, unlikely). 275: 4. 375: 2. 475: 4 (one proposed). 575: 1. 675: 3. 875: 1 (proposed).
I-76: 176, 276, 376, 476, 576 (proposed), 676.
I-77: 277 (two of them).
I-78: 278, 478, 678, 878.
I-79: 279, 579.
I-80: All nine. 180: 4 (incl. WY's). 280: 4. 380: 3. 480: 2. 580: 2 (one future). 680: 3. 780: 1. 880: 1. 980: 1.
I-81: 381, 481, 581.
I-82: 182
I-83: 283
I-84: 184, 384, 684.
I-85: 185, 285, 385, 485, 585, 785 (future), 985. 185 and 285 have two instances (285 has one proposed).
I-86: None.
I-87: 287, 587, 787.
I-88: None.
I-89: 189.
I-90: All nine. 190: 4. 290: 3. 390: 1. 490: 2. 590: 1. 690: 1. 790: 1. 890: 1. 990: 1.
I-91: 191, 291, 491, 691.
I-93: 293, 393.
I-94: 194: 2. 294: 1. 394: 2 (one proposed). 494: 1. 694: 1. 794: 1. 894: 1.
I-95: 195: 6. 295: 8 (one proposed). 395: 5. 495: 5. 595: 2. 695: 3. 795: 3 (one future). 895: 2 (not incl. VA 895).
I-96: 196, 296, 496, 696.
I-97: None.
I-99: None.

Now, did I miss any?
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Quillz on November 28, 2010, 05:13:06 AM
I'm still not too sure about I-305. It's not signed and (from what I read in another topic) CalTRANS doesn't actually maintain it internally, either. I believe AASHTO recognizes it, though.

The same applies to I-910. It officially exists but is not signed or recognized, and I believe it's due to be wholly engulfed by the future I-49 extension.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: froggie on November 28, 2010, 07:57:50 AM
I-910 has been approved, but does not exist, as LaDOTD has not followed through.

You missed the unsigned I-444 (OK).

There is no I-191 or I-491.  But there is a I-391.  There are two instances of I-291.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: US71 on November 28, 2010, 09:02:28 AM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 28, 2010, 05:05:03 AM
Now, did I miss any?

I-49: None
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Grzrd on November 28, 2010, 09:32:41 AM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 28, 2010, 05:05:03 AM
Now, did I miss any?
Since you are including proposed 3dis, Future I-22 will have one 3di, proposed I-422.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Mergingtraffic on November 28, 2010, 01:31:15 PM
Quote from: AARoads on November 27, 2010, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: doofy103 on November 27, 2010, 04:29:34 PM
I guess I never thought of it before, but I-84 on both sides of the conutry only has one even ended 3di.
I-684

and only 2 odd ended 3di.

I-184 and I-384

Any others that come to mind?

or any that use up all the 3dis including odd and even?
I-90 and I-95 come to mind.

Well I-84 did have I-284 and I-484 planned but never built...

Yes sadly, however, I believe if those were built, given the ghost ramps and the left exits/entrances that were planned, it probably would've created more back-ups due to the poor designs of the proposed interchanges.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Duke87 on November 28, 2010, 07:14:13 PM
Part of I-484 was actually built. Take the "Capitol Area" exit off of I-91 (29A). It's horribly substandard, though, and was demoted years ago to an unsigned state highway.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Revive 755 on November 28, 2010, 07:55:12 PM
It's been mentioned in some other thread that MoDOT would like to switch the planned routing of I-49 to follow existing MO 249 and avoid multiplexing with I-44.  There's the possibility that this will result in a new 3di for the former section of I-49 along US 71 down to I-44.

I-564 has been proposed for the I-64 to relocated I-70 route around East St. Louis: (27 MB file)

http://www.newriverbridge.org/documents/plans/J6U1086%20plans/AJR/Appendix%20C%20Figures%2001%20to%2020.pdf (http://www.newriverbridge.org/documents/plans/J6U1086%20plans/AJR/Appendix%20C%20Figures%2001%20to%2020.pdf) (See page 21/21)

I would expect to see one of the Kentucky parkways become a 3di after I-69 is officially signed in that state  - I'd bet on the Audobon, being the shortest and probably cheapest to upgrade next.

If one wants get into the speculative, I-57 and western I-88 could get 3di's for the Illinana and Prairie Parkway corridors respectively.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: mgk920 on November 28, 2010, 08:00:48 PM
Wasn't I-124 decommissioned a couple of decades ago?

Mike
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Alps on November 28, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 28, 2010, 05:05:03 AM

I-99: 999: 1. (renumbering of I-80)

Now, did I miss any?

Fixed.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: froggie on November 28, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
QuoteWasn't I-124 decommissioned a couple of decades ago?

Nope.  Still active, if not signed.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: golden eagle on November 28, 2010, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: mapman1071 on November 28, 2010, 01:57:01 AM
Quote from: Grzrd on November 27, 2010, 08:36:56 PM
I-4 has no 3dis, but it has a terminus with a 3di, I-275.
I-12 has no 3dis, but somewhat interesting that its eastern terminus is with 2 separate 2dis, I-59 and I-10.
I-49 has no 3dis (may change in future).

EDIT

Quote from: njroadhorse on November 27, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
I-43 has none, as well as I-4, I-8, and I-24.
Sorry, I missed the above I-4 before I posted.

I-12 should be a I-x10

I really wouldn't disagree with that. To tell you the truth, I think a 2di should have to cross between two states to be called an interstate. 4, 17 & 19, among others, would fall under that too.
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: Bickendan on November 28, 2010, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on November 28, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 28, 2010, 05:05:03 AM

I-99: 999: 1. (renumbering of I-80)

Now, did I miss any?

Fixed.
I see what you did there! :lol:
Title: Re: Interstates with no 3di's or a very few of them
Post by: hbelkins on November 29, 2010, 10:36:13 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on November 28, 2010, 07:55:12 PM

I would expect to see one of the Kentucky parkways become a 3di after I-69 is officially signed in that state  - I'd bet on the Audobon, being the shortest and probably cheapest to upgrade next.

Indeed, the Audubon is signed as "Future Spur I-69."

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_TN_Day_4%2FImages%2F19.jpg&hash=b51fb237f861361e4fb81a5f86559530d97734c4)