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Title: Route 2011
Post by: US71 on January 01, 2011, 10:00:59 AM
Any state besides Texas have a Route 2011?  :-D
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: Ian on January 01, 2011, 10:03:26 AM
Pennsylvania must have several SR 2011s.
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: Michael in Philly on January 01, 2011, 11:18:03 AM
Four-digit numbers are not at all unusual in Britain, and there should be some in France.  I'm having no luck finding a D2011 in France; haven't looked yet for A2011 or B2011 in the U.K.

Update:  B2011 in England, on the Channel coast between Dover and Folkestone:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.10266,1.226349&spn=0.02393,0.054846&z=14

Back on this side of the pond, how about Kentucky?
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: froggie on January 01, 2011, 12:04:14 PM
A quick check of VDOT shapefiles yields SR 2011 in twelve Virginia counties plus a former one in Suffolk (back when VDOT maintained most of Suffolk's roads).
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: english si on January 01, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on January 01, 2011, 11:18:03 AM
Four-digit numbers are not at all unusual in Britain, and there should be some in France.  I'm having no luck finding a D2011 in France; haven't looked yet for A2011 or B2011 in the U.K.

Update:  B2011 in England, on the Channel coast between Dover and Folkestone:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.10266,1.226349&spn=0.02393,0.054846&z=14
You missed the A2011 (http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=A2011&gr=51.12768,-0.16415&map=OSMMap&zoom=8&layer=0). There's been 3 iterations of the A2011, and 2 of the B2011 (the former B2011 near Maidstone became A2011).

4 digit numbers aren't immensely common in France, and a 2000+ number would be rare - that said there are some N200x routes in the Department outre-mer, which are (like all 4-digit N roads) bypassed Nx.
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: Michael in Philly on January 01, 2011, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: english si on January 01, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on January 01, 2011, 11:18:03 AM
Four-digit numbers are not at all unusual in Britain, and there should be some in France.  I'm having no luck finding a D2011 in France; haven't looked yet for A2011 or B2011 in the U.K.

Update:  B2011 in England, on the Channel coast between Dover and Folkestone:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.10266,1.226349&spn=0.02393,0.054846&z=14
You missed the A2011 (http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=A2011&gr=51.12768,-0.16415&map=OSMMap&zoom=8&layer=0). There's been 3 iterations of the A2011, and 2 of the B2011 (the former B2011 near Maidstone became A2011).

4 digit numbers aren't immensely common in France, and a 2000+ number would be rare - that said there are some N200x routes in the Department outre-mer, which are (like all 4-digit N roads) bypassed Nx.

I didn't know that there could be both an A2011 and a B2011; searched B2011 first because it seemed more likely.  Are both designations currently in use?  (Since you're talking about former iterations.)

For France, I figured it'd have to be a departmental, couldn't find anything by googling D2011, and the lists on French Wikipedia and the French roads Wiki are broken down by département.  I'm not interested enough in the question to go through all of the 95 European (as opposed to overseas) départements that have departmental roads (Paris doesn't).  I did try to find the N11 in a road atlas to see if it'd become a D2011 thanks to decentralization, but I can't find the N11 or anything like it sitting between the N10 and N12 (or their corridors) at all.

I know there are no four-digit route numbers in Belgium; I'm less familiar with the rest of Europe.  I suppose there may be a 2011 somewhere in the mind-bogglingly complex Spanish numbering system.
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: Eth on January 02, 2011, 01:14:14 AM
Here in the States, I figured both Kentucky and Louisiana could be contenders, but no evidence of either that I can find.
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: english si on January 02, 2011, 07:54:28 AM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on January 01, 2011, 12:43:38 PMI didn't know that there could be both an A2011 and a B2011; searched B2011 first because it seemed more likely.  Are both designations currently in use?  (Since you're talking about former iterations.)
Yes, both exist currently and it's perfectly allowed - there was a A2011 and a B2011 when numbering started (and was pure rule following) in 1922. Meetings between A and B roads with the same number are fairly rare - certainly more rare than junctions between Mx and Ax (the A2011 and B2011 don't meet).
QuoteI did try to find the N11 in a road atlas to see if it'd become a D2011 thanks to decentralization, but I can't find the N11 or anything like it sitting between the N10 and N12 (or their corridors) at all.
From the N10 to La Rochelle, though most, if not all, has been downgraded (as is common with French N roads nowadays). You wouldn't get a D2011, as N road renumbering for the N11 would be N611 or N911 or something similar.
Title: Re: Route 2011
Post by: PAHighways on January 02, 2011, 04:30:35 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on January 01, 2011, 10:03:26 AMPennsylvania must have several SR 2011s.

According to the PennDOT route log, there are 55 counties that have an SR 2011.  The ones without are Beaver, Cameron, Forest, Fulton, McKean, Mifflin, Montour, Philadelphia, Potter, Sullivan, Union, and Warren.