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Title: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Brandon on February 06, 2011, 11:01:02 PM
This freeway would've been along IL-59 from Joliet to the Wisconsin border, matching up with US-12.  This is an image of the study area from the 1990s from my own collection.  It also shows FAP-431 (now I-355 between I-80 and I-55), FAP-432 (IL-35 extension proposed through Lake County), and FAP-435 (Elgin-O'Hare Expressway).

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/FoxValleyFwy_0001.jpg (http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz298/midamcrossrds/FoxValleyFwy_0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Henry on February 07, 2011, 12:07:07 PM
That would've been a good I-94 alternative in the Chicago/Milwaukee megalopolis.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: 3467 on February 07, 2011, 10:13:57 PM
The area filled in by the early 90s and Gov Edgar cancelled it. Another outer belt plan developed into the Praire parkway/Illiana  tollway. Ironically the crosstown inside Chicago would be easier to revive because there is the RR ROW. Beyond these 2 and the mini crosstown only the IL 53 and Elgin Ohare are on any plans for the next 30 years, all as tollways
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: hobsini2 on March 03, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
It actually was cancelled beacuase of the NIMBYS in Warrenville by Fermilab.  And this was actually going to be built as a Toll Road.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Brandon on March 03, 2011, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 03, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
It actually was cancelled beacuase of the NIMBYS in Warrenville by Fermilab.  And this was actually going to be built as a Toll Road.

Which is quite a shame since IL-59 is god-awful busy now.  Oh well, hopefully the Prairie Parkway stays on track.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Rick Powell on March 29, 2011, 01:40:22 AM
If you stay in this business long enough, things will come around full circle.  I was IDOT's project manager on the Prairie Parkway and I am working in the private sector now.  Our team will be working on the Tiered EIS for the Illiana Expressway over the next few years.  One of the guys on our team was IDOT's project manager for the Fox Valley Freeway study back in the early 90's.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Chicagosuburban on July 25, 2011, 05:26:40 PM
Interesting, the Freeway could have gone through where my subdivision is now (it wasn't built yet when they were planning the Freeway so it would be interesting to see if it was actually built, where exactly it would have gone)
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Max B. (FreewayTitan) on August 07, 2011, 11:44:56 PM
Personally I like the idea of the Prairie Parkway, or something along the IL-47 corridor in general.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: ftballfan on August 09, 2011, 05:17:59 PM
NIMBYs must apparently like being stuck in traffic :)
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: hobsini2 on August 09, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
Never underestimate the power of the NIMBY!  Thes are the same bastards that will go 45 in a 55 on Butterfield Rd between Route 59 and Farnsworth.   Thank god IDiOT is finally, after 20 so odd years of promise, widening it.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: NE2 on August 09, 2011, 07:52:59 PM
I hear NIMBYs are preventing an I-82 extension from passing through Yellowstone!
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Brandon on August 09, 2011, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 09, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
Never underestimate the power of the NIMBY!  Thes are the same bastards that will go 45 in a 55 on Butterfield Rd between Route 59 and Farnsworth.   Thank god IDiOT is finally, after 20 so odd years of promise, widening it.

And yet, they're the same bastards who will bitch, piss, whine, moan, and complain when roads like Butterfield are widened so we don't have to sit behind their Prius-driving slow-asses.  They hate to see their "rural atmosphere" go away.  Here's a hint, the "rural atmosphere" went away when you built your oversized wannabe McMansion in what used to be the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Revive 755 on September 24, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
There's an older map on a wall in the Mokena Library that showed a short section of the Fox Valley running west to IL 59 from a trumpet on I-55 maybe a mile northeast of the IL 126 interchange.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: hobsini2 on October 08, 2011, 12:26:44 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 24, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
There's an older map on a wall in the Mokena Library that showed a short section of the Fox Valley running west to IL 59 from a trumpet on I-55 maybe a mile northeast of the IL 126 interchange.
Yes somewhere i have a 6 county atlas that Rand McNally made that had the same proposal.  I want to say that was in 1993 or so.  I haven't seen that book in ages.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Stratuscaster on October 08, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 09, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
Thank god IDiOT is finally, after 20 so odd years of promise, widening it.
Only between Naperville Rd and the EJE tracks west of 59.

The rural atmosphere will continue from the EJE to Farnsworth - no real surprise since the only thing north of Butterfield in that stretch is Fermilab - and then it will crash into the oh-so rural retail atmosphere of Super Wal-Mart and the nearby Chicago Premium Outlets mall that still backs up traffic onto I-88 at times.

It does amuse me that the 6-lane I-88 and the 2-lane IL-56/Butterfield Rd are both posted at 55MPH, too.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Revive 755 on October 08, 2011, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on October 08, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
It does amuse me that the 6-lane I-88 and the 2-lane IL-56/Butterfield Rd are both posted at 55MPH, too.

The Toll Authority does not seem capable of posting decent speed limits, otherwise I-94 would stay 65 until at least IL 132.  As with I-88, some of the parallel routes to I-94 do make it up to 55.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Brandon on October 08, 2011, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on October 08, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 09, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
Thank god IDiOT is finally, after 20 so odd years of promise, widening it.
Only between Naperville Rd and the EJE tracks west of 59.

The rural atmosphere will continue from the EJE to Farnsworth - no real surprise since the only thing north of Butterfield in that stretch is Fermilab - and then it will crash into the oh-so rural retail atmosphere of Super Wal-Mart and the nearby Chicago Premium Outlets mall that still backs up traffic onto I-88 at times.

It does amuse me that the 6-lane I-88 and the 2-lane IL-56/Butterfield Rd are both posted at 55MPH, too.

Based on the 85th percentile, I-88 should be 70 mph from what I've seen.  55 mph is a sick joke around Chicagoland.
Title: Re: Fox Valley Freeway
Post by: Lightning Strike on October 09, 2011, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 08, 2011, 10:14:13 PM
Based on the 85th percentile, I-88 should be 70 mph from what I've seen.  55 mph is a sick joke around Chicagoland.

:-D 45 on 90/94 through downtown is also a sick joke, but agree at least 65 on outer loops (294/290), I despise 55mph speed limits of these routes especially