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Title: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Alps on February 09, 2011, 12:01:16 AM
Quote from: mightyace on November 09, 2010, 10:01:36 AM
^^^

As you may know, PA 61 is part of the old US 122 corridor.
Tangent topic - 61 is half of 122. Any other cases where a route was replaced with some fraction or multiple of itself? (Trivial cases like 1 or 2 don't count.)
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: mightyace on February 09, 2011, 12:13:12 AM
What used to be OH 8 from Canton to Fly, OH is now OH 800. (New = old x 100)


While not a multiple, on a similar vein:
Part of the old alignment of US 43 between Columbia and Mt. Pleasant is now TN SSR 243.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Quillz on February 09, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
A portion of CA-30 became CA-330. A segment of CA-71 became CA-371.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Scott5114 on February 09, 2011, 03:50:38 AM
Quote from: Quillz on February 09, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
A portion of CA-30 became CA-330. A segment of CA-71 became CA-371.

30 × ?? = 330?
71 × ?? = 371?

330 ÷ ?? = 30?
371 ÷ ?? = 71?
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: NE2 on February 09, 2011, 06:49:23 AM
11
5.225...

One out of two ain't bad, though I doubt Caltrans was going for the multiple.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: SEWIGuy on February 09, 2011, 09:24:16 AM
The former US-16 became WI-16

16/16=1

Does this count??? 
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 09, 2011, 10:59:42 AM
Quote from: mightyace on February 09, 2011, 12:13:12 AM
What used to be OH 8 from Canton to Fly, OH is now OH 800. (New = old x 100)



at one point, in order to get people to use the new I-70 freeway, Ohio DOT moved US-40 onto I-70 and renumbered the old route as OH-440.  Then after a few years they moved it back.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Coelacanth on February 09, 2011, 03:21:37 PM
Part of the old alignment of US-8 became MN-88.

This multiply by 11 thing seems somewhat common, judging from this thread.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: xcellntbuy on February 09, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Southern Tier portions of NY 17 have become NY 417.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: NE2 on February 09, 2011, 05:22:26 PM
Quote from: xcellntbuy on February 09, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Southern Tier portions of NY 17 have become NY 417.
Presumably Steve meant integer multiples (24.529 is not an integer).
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Alps on February 09, 2011, 06:22:24 PM
Multiplying by 11 is not really what I was after - it's just doubling the first numeral of an x0 or single-digit route. Same with multiplying by 10. I'd call those trivial cases.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: The Premier on February 09, 2011, 07:37:42 PM
SR 585 from SR 21 to SR 3/83 in Wooster and SR 59 (partially) used to be SR 5.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Ian on February 09, 2011, 07:40:11 PM
Doesn't Hawaii like adding 0's after the number for old alignments?
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: froggie on February 09, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
Some Minnesota instances that may or may not qualify:

- What began as Constitutional Route 8 (and was originally signed as MN 8 ) largely became US 2.
- In the "multiples-of-10-and-then-some" category, what was originally MN 3 between Breckenridge and Staples became MN 210 ca. 1955.
- Original, Constitutional Route 7 (signed as MN 7) largely became US 14.
- MN 80 is an original alignment of old US 16.
- In the "reverse-of-10" category...we have a case where a multiple of 10 became the smaller number.  Original MN 240 ran from Annandale to Clear Lake.  It became part of an extended MN 24 (which originally ran Litchfield to St. Cloud, then later Litchfield to MN 15) ca. 1962.
- Part of Constitutional Route 54 (original MN 54) became MN 27 in 1934.
- What was originally MN 272 between Marshall and Morgan is now part of MN 68.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Revive 755 on February 09, 2011, 07:52:11 PM
Illinois has IL 250 as an old US 50 alignment in the eastern half of the state.

MO 350 was once an alignment of US 50.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Mapmikey on February 12, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
US 60 from Burkeville, VA to Richmond, VA became US 360 (x6)

Virginia has had so many wholesale renumberings there are probably more...

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: national highway 1 on February 13, 2011, 02:57:14 AM
When I-376 was extended to Sharon, PA in 2009 to replace PA 60, the old route became PA 760.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: NE2 on February 13, 2011, 08:16:18 AM
760/60=12 2/3
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: Alps on February 14, 2011, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: froggie on February 09, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
- MN 80 is an original alignment of old US 16.
- In the "reverse-of-10" category...we have a case where a multiple of 10 became the smaller number.  Original MN 240 ran from Annandale to Clear Lake.  It became part of an extended MN 24 (which originally ran Litchfield to St. Cloud, then later Litchfield to MN 15) ca. 1962.
- Part of Constitutional Route 54 (original MN 54) became MN 27 in 1934.
- What was originally MN 272 between Marshall and Morgan is now part of MN 68.


Now this is the sort of stuff I was after! 68/272 is gorgeous (: Thanks!
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: ausinterkid on February 13, 2011, 02:57:14 AM
When I-376 was extended to Sharon, PA in 2009 to replace PA 60, the old route became PA 760.

CLARIFICATION:
When I mentioned TN 243, I said it was a similar to what Alps wants but not the same.  TN 243 like PA 760 are new numbers that contain the old number like a 3di contains the parent interstate.

I have created this thread to handle US 43 to TN 243, PA 60 to PA 760, etc.

Old Alignments of 1 or 2 digit routes with 3di style numbering (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4167.0)
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: NE2 on March 25, 2011, 02:22:09 AM
http://www.steve-riner.com/nmhighways/NM251-300.htm
[NM 256] Established early 1950s. By the late 1950s, this was renumbered as the eastward extension of NM-128, its current designation
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: pianocello on March 25, 2011, 10:02:27 PM
All of I-72 west of Decatur follows US-36, but 36 is still signed.
Title: Re: Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 25, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
how about a hexadecimal example?  MA-2A is an old alignment of MA-2.  0x2 times 0x15 is 0x2A.  

1 -> 1A is trivial.  3 -> 3A doesn't work.  I think 1 and 2 are the only suffixed routes in MA for which this currently works, but there used to be a US-5A in the 1930s that was an old alignment of US-5.  Brilliant!

(yes, that is the only suffixed US route in Mass. history - most of the time the A's become state routes - including US-5A becoming MA-5A after a few years.)