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Title: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Mergingtraffic on February 15, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
I'll start the list:

In CT:  Lots!  I-84 Widening in Waterbury and at select spots in Danbury.
RI: Routes 6&10 interchange
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 15, 2011, 10:37:31 AM
I-15 through Vegas.  Has been under construction every time I've been there since the late 90s.  Okay, half the time it isn't really construction, just an excuse to put up a "fines doubled" speed trap - but still!
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on February 15, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
The A-30 extension was supposed to open in the early 90s after already being years late on the initial project. Now it's planned to open in December 2012...
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: hbelkins on February 15, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
New bridge for Louisville's east end.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 15, 2011, 11:44:36 AM
let me be the first to say it: I-95.
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Post by: Henry on February 15, 2011, 11:57:33 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 15, 2011, 11:44:36 AM
let me be the first to say it: I-95.

As in the Philadelphia-New York gap?
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: triplemultiplex on February 15, 2011, 04:51:47 PM
In Madison, the Beltline interchange with Verona Rd which has had a study going on for at least as long as I've been aware that WisDOT had a website.  So that's at least '98.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Quillz on February 15, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
I-210 and I-905
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Post by: FreewayDan on February 15, 2011, 06:39:25 PM
The Hardy Toll Road extension to downtown Houston and the northeast section of the Sam Houston Tollway.
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Post by: Duke87 on February 15, 2011, 07:40:55 PM
Whatever the hell PennDOT has been doing to I-80 for the past decade that requires them to force a single lane for 10 miles at a time repeatedly.
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Post by: kharvey10 on February 15, 2011, 08:04:58 PM
Upgrading I-270 from Lilac to 255 (if IDiOT would just get off their lazy butts and do it)

Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Making I-65 at least six lanes all the way from Saturn Parkway (Exit 53) to the Kentucky border (MP 120~121).  (Current 6 lane is Exit 65-97 with construction just getting underway for exit 59-65).

The three miles of US 220 (Future I-99) between I-80's Exit 178 and the south end of the 220 freeway near Salona.

A connection between the north end of the Selinsgrove, PA bypass (US 11-15) and the south end of PA 147 freeway.

And, let me be the first to say it, BREEZEWOOD!  I would have thought there would be a freeway-freeway connection for I-70 by now and every other place where a freeway crosses the PA Turnpike without an exit!
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: OracleUsr on February 15, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
US 70 between Statesville and Cleveland.  They've been working on that for a year or more and are still nowhere near ready.

Also, even longer, Mebane St. in Burlington.  Even longer running project.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Alps on February 15, 2011, 10:57:35 PM
NJ 3/US 46 interchange rebuild (keeps getting pushed back by 4 years every 4 years)
Second Pulaski Skyway - whether it involves keeping or replacing the existing one
All Electronic Tolling anywhere in this country as a retrofit to an existing toll road (coming soon to I-78 entering PA? I-95 entering NY? define soon?)
CT 11, the number of times it's been proposed
Autoroute 35 extension, at least it's underway
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: cjk374 on February 15, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
You mean I get the honor and privilege of saying......I-49 NORTH of Shreveport?   :pan:
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Post by: national highway 1 on February 15, 2011, 11:44:18 PM
Reopening the northern bit of CA 39 in the San Gabriel Mountains.
I-710 between Valley Blvd & California Blvd, Pasadena.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: jdb1234 on February 16, 2011, 12:06:38 AM
I would say I-22.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Alex on February 16, 2011, 01:57:42 AM
They built an artificial hill within one of the cloverleaf ramps at Interstate 95 and Delaware 1 & 7 in 1992 to be used for an eventual flyover ramp. While ground is expected to be broken soon almost 20 years later, the interchange upgrade should have been completed a long time ago...
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: myosh_tino on February 16, 2011, 02:44:03 AM
Quote from: Quillz on February 15, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
I-210 and I-905
Isn't the I-210/CA-210 freeway fully constructed and open to traffic along it's entire length between I-5 and I-10?
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: TheStranger on February 16, 2011, 03:28:44 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on February 16, 2011, 02:44:03 AM
Quote from: Quillz on February 15, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
I-210 and I-905
Isn't the I-210/CA-210 freeway fully constructed and open to traffic along it's entire length between I-5 and I-10?

I think so, with the only work remaining being the 210/215 interchange.  The old Route 30 freeway east of I-215 is now signed as Route 210.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 16, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 16, 2011, 03:28:44 AM

I think so, with the only work remaining being the 210/215 interchange.  The old Route 30 freeway east of I-215 is now signed as Route 210.

that is correct.  Just drove through the 210-215 interchange yesterday on 215, and a few weeks ago on 210.  If one road deserves to not be signed as an interstate... it's 215!  Southbound, I counted seven abrupt lane shifts (like, 75 feet, pay attention or eat some Jersey barrier) in the span of a mile.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: brownpelican on February 16, 2011, 02:15:25 PM
* Widening I-10 from six to eight lanes from Clearview Pkwy to Williams Blvd. in Jefferson Parish.
* Westbank Expressway (Bus. U.S. 90) interchange at Peters Road (should have been done last decade)
*Revamp of I-10/I-110 interchange in Baton Rouge. How can LADOTD NOT think that's a problem?
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Mr_Northside on February 16, 2011, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
The three miles of US 220 (Future I-99) between I-80's Exit 178 and the south end of the 220 freeway near Salona.

And, let me be the first to say it, BREEZEWOOD!  I would have thought there would be a freeway-freeway connection for I-70 by now and every other place where a freeway crosses the PA Turnpike without an exit!

I guess this helps illustrate the difference between "should" and "would".

These 2 examples are projects I thought should be done by now.  (And lord knows how many others could be added to THAT list...)

But, and maybe I'm just starting to get old and crotchety here, I really have/had no expectations these would be done by now.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Stephane Dumas on February 16, 2011, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on February 15, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
The A-30 extension was supposed to open in the early 90s after already being years late on the initial project. Now it's planned to open in December 2012...

Add also to the list, the missing gap of A-25 and the A-73 extension as well as the proposed A-20 gap between Cacouna and Rimouski.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Bickendan on February 17, 2011, 02:48:55 AM
The Westside Bypass, from Wilsonville or Tualatin at I-5 to Aloha or Hillsboro at US 26.
A freeway to freeway connection from BC 99 to the TCH in metro Vancouver.
The western two miles of I-90.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: xonhulu on February 17, 2011, 09:25:37 PM
The Newberg-Dundee bypass in Oregon.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Beeper1 on February 17, 2011, 09:37:48 PM
CT 11!  Every time it looks like progress is being made, it gets killed again as the state decides to spend the money allocated for it on other projects.

Also, US 6 between Bolton Notch and Willimantic.  Though at least they have done a good job upgrading the existing road so it's a lot safer than it used to be.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: AZDude on February 17, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
The South Mountain Freeway (Loop 202).
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: kj3400 on February 18, 2011, 01:29:47 AM
I-70 extension to I-95 in Baltimore like it should've been done 40 years ago.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Henry on February 18, 2011, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: kj3400 on February 18, 2011, 01:29:47 AM
I-70 extension to I-95 in Baltimore like it should've been done 40 years ago.

Actually, I'm glad they never did that, mainly because of the destruction of a heavily-wooded city park it would have created.

And while we're in that area, I'd say the eastward extension of I-83 to I-95, as well as I-95 through the northern sections of DC.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: hobsini2 on February 18, 2011, 10:40:43 AM
1) Converting WI 30 and Aberg Dr into a true freeway to connect I-39/90/94 with the Dane County Airport in Madison.
2) Elgin-O'Hare Expressway. Finish it!
3) US 12 freeway between Elkhorn and Madison and from the WI/IL Line to Lake Cook Rd.  Damn Long Grove NIMBYS!
4) Redo the Weber Rd interchange on I-55 in Bolingbrook IL.  The current diamond is ALWAYS backed up esp if you are going South on Weber getting on I-55 North.  Give me an interchange designed like US 51 on I-90 near Madison (Exit 132).
5) Upgrading US 51 between Bloomington and Decatur (and eventually Salem) to a full limited access highway.  Too many lights and crossovers esp north of Decatur.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: thenetwork on February 18, 2011, 06:22:07 PM
Things that jump out in my mind:

1) A C-, E-, I-,....oh hell, just ANY 470 link between I-70 and the Northwest Parkway in Denver.  Getting from I-70 west of the Mile High City to Boulder or Fort Collins and vice-versa is such a pain.  Damn NIMBYs.

2) One single electronic tolling system compatible with ALL U.S. Toll Roads & Bridges.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: kj3400 on February 19, 2011, 01:10:43 AM
Quote from: Henry on February 18, 2011, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: kj3400 on February 18, 2011, 01:29:47 AM
I-70 extension to I-95 in Baltimore like it should've been done 40 years ago.

Actually, I'm glad they never did that, mainly because of the destruction of a heavily-wooded city park it would have created.

And while we're in that area, I'd say the eastward extension of I-83 to I-95, as well as I-95 through the northern sections of DC.

That's what tunnels are for.....I'm not being cruel here....after all I do live 2.5 miles from the end of I-70.
But your 1st suggestion would destroy Canton and Fells Point. We can't have that.
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Post by: agentsteel53 on February 19, 2011, 01:26:25 AM
I don't suppose there's a chance of accidentally leveling some fatcat senator's office while building this tunnel?
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Post by: wandering drive on February 19, 2011, 04:27:57 AM
The diamond interchange at US-169 and I-494 in Bloomington, MN as well as the crossing on US-169 immediately south of that.  It should have been a first priority up there with the new Bloomington Ferry Bridge when they decided to reroute US-169 through Bloomington.  The project is so underfunded right now that the "project schedule" for the US-169 corridor dates 2001-2002.
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Post by: PAHighways on February 19, 2011, 02:09:39 PM
Mon-Fayette Expressway (the original incarnation was to have been completed about 30 years ago)

I-95/I-276 interchange (original completion date was sometime in the last decade)
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: J N Winkler on February 19, 2011, 08:15:40 PM
My personal favorite:  the LBJ tunnels on IH 635 in northern Dallas.  One of the documents released as part of the CDA procurement (before the current construction program) was compiled in the late 1990's and envisioned a 2007 opening date for the tunnels!
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Revive 755 on February 20, 2011, 12:49:06 AM
* The revised/updated EIS for the Avenue of the Saints bypass of Hannibal, MO

* Some sort of fix for the bloody-awful 20 mph left ramp from NB I-55 to WB I-44

* Revisions to the I-44 interchange at Pacific, MO
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Post by: bulldog1979 on February 20, 2011, 03:36:58 AM
1) The northern end of the St. Joseph Valley Parkway, aka the US 31 freeway in Berrien County. Just pick a plan and built it already.

2) The US 127 freeway between Ithaca and St. Johns. The interchange for M-57 is there, just need to start the freeway.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: kj3400 on February 20, 2011, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 19, 2011, 01:26:25 AM
I don't suppose there's a chance of accidentally leveling some fatcat senator's office while building this tunnel?

I wish. :-D
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: SP Cook on February 20, 2011, 11:40:00 AM
The twin to the Dunbar-South Charleston Bridge in WV.  The orignal was built in 15 months in the 1972-3.  The twin openned last October after 11 years of construction, now they are at least a year behind on the planned 24 month refurbishment of the original.   A simple replacement of the bridge, containing the needed extra lanes, followed by a removal of the original, would have cost less and taken far less time. 

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Post by: DeaconG on February 20, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
The Wekiva Parkway (Toll SR 429) that would complete the beltway around Orlando.  They've finally got the lawsuits settled and now they're expecting to start in the 2012-14 timeframe...
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: vdeane on February 20, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Lots of cancelled ones in NY:
-A complete rebuild of NY 390 between I-490 and NY 104, including reconstruction of the interchange with I-490; the reconstruction of the interchange got pushed back 15 years, and the rebuild was cancelled completely.
-Likewise, a complete rebuild of NY 590 between Norton St and Titus Ave; the DOT was looking into this as well as building the two missing ramps 10 years ago; looks like that was cancelled too.
-Also, I would have thought work would have started on the NY 531 extension (though an interchange with NY 36 and stub ramps are still planned)

Here's some stuff that hasn't been cancelled:
-I-86 east of Elmira
-The Williamsville toll barrier reconstruction on the Thruway
-The project on I-81 to replace the Bartell Rd bridge (seriously, NYSDOT: is the left lane of I-81 closed just for fun?)

There's also the project to repave some streets in my neighborhood; one's been done, the other should have been done by now, and the other two need it but aren't going to have anything done.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Brandon on February 20, 2011, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 18, 2011, 10:40:43 AM
1) Converting WI 30 and Aberg Dr into a true freeway to connect I-39/90/94 with the Dane County Airport in Madison.
2) Elgin-O'Hare Expressway. Finish it!

Parts of this are in the plans for the western O'Hare bypass.

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3) US 12 freeway between Elkhorn and Madison and from the WI/IL Line to Lake Cook Rd.  Damn Long Grove NIMBYS!

Long Grove needs to politely fuck off, IMHO, and realize it would be better with the freeway/tollway than without.

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4) Redo the Weber Rd interchange on I-55 in Bolingbrook IL.  The current diamond is ALWAYS backed up esp if you are going South on Weber getting on I-55 North.  Give me an interchange designed like US 51 on I-90 near Madison (Exit 132).

Good luck getting IDiOT to address this.  They'd rather spend money in that sinkhole we politely call Cook County.  A six ramp parclo (loop off, left turns on) would go a long way.

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5) Upgrading US 51 between Bloomington and Decatur (and eventually Salem) to a full limited access highway.  Too many lights and crossovers esp north of Decatur.

Should be I-39 south to I-57, IMHO.
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Post by: roadfro on February 21, 2011, 03:24:05 AM
I-580 Extension from southern Reno towards Carson City. They've been working on this for a while now, and despite the first contractor quitting and the project being re-bid, it sure seems like this should've been done two years ago.

I-80 through the Sierra Nevada mountains in California. That seems to have been under some kind of re/construction every summer for the last six or so years...
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: J N Winkler on February 21, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 21, 2011, 03:24:05 AMI-80 through the Sierra Nevada mountains in California. That seems to have been under some kind of re/construction every summer for the last six or so years...

I can remember contracts for pavement rehabilitation being advertised in 2003, and the Truckee bypass reconstruction started a few years before Caltrans started putting construction plans online (in 2001), so it has been going on for quite a while.
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Post by: nexus73 on February 21, 2011, 11:10:00 PM
On the south coast of Oregon, US 101 used to run from Coos Bay to Coquille to Bandon prior to 1961, which is when a new section was built that directly connected Coos Bay to Bandon.  The original US 101 route was built as a narrow concrete two lane road, small sections of which still remain today.  After World War II ended, it was time to begin the modernizing of US 101 in our area, so a 4 lane expressway that began it's construction in 1947, was built from North Bend to Coos Bay and then almost to Coquille, coming within 4 miles of our county seat.  That's where the 4-lane ended.

Since that time we have seen the 1961 US 101 section open, the Greenacres Curve and intersection get a total redo as well as seeing the same thing to the section of highway running through Millington.  ODOT put in a 4-lane bypass in the early 1990's of Coquille that connected with the 4-lane to the east of that town and that section of 4-lane runs to Myrtle Point, which was built in the 1970's.  ODOT classified the 101/42 Coos Bay-Coquille Highway as an expressway a bit over 10 years ago.  It's not like we have been totally ignored down here even though we are a long ways away from the PDX-Salem area but we have been waiting for over 60 years to get those last few miles of 4-lane highway built!

This kind of piecemeal approach to roads fails to see the whole road as a system.  There's a rule in convoys that says you can only have the convoy go as fast as the slowest ship.  A road as a whole is only as good as it's worst sections.  One need only look at CalTrans and their decades of dawdling over US 101 and US 199 for bringing those roads to a modern standard in California.  Instead we in this section of the West Coast suffer with sections that are so subpar that Federal-standard trucks cannot drive on them.  Where are we left due to this when I-5 is closed due to snow?  Stuck.  That's where.  Tourists whiteknuckling along 101 and 199 don't want to come back after gettings a good scare from the overly narrow sections, which are bracketed by modern freeways and expressways.  They're there to fool the innocents into thinking things will be fine until they get into northern Mendocino County...LOL!  After that it's "Good luck Chuck!".  We need high grade roads for commerce and tourism as well as the regular local yokel traffic but between ODOT and CalTrans, it seems like we in the region that is also known as the State of Jefferson get the short end of the stick compared to the metro areas even though if there was a lack of an alternate to I-5, things could get mighty messy for those city slickers if they can't get their food and other stuff in as well as ship their products out.

Good roads are a necessity and it should not take the better part of a century to get them.  Dribs and drabs, the hit and miss approach, a lick and a promise.  Is it any wonder that our nation is in decline?  During World War II we built the whole damned Alaska Highway in less than a year, yet we can't handle filling in the gaps from the obsolete Novato expressway 101 section all the way to the Oregon border with today's much more modern machinery in 4 or less years?  We have let procedure and politics win.  The people and economy lose.  The lawyers for the enviros and NIMBY's are laughing all the way to the bank though!

Yeah, I know we out here aren't as big a deal as those affected by the incomplete I-95 section that's infamous but we are hurtin' for certain nonetheless.  Reading this thread shows just how much this nation is hampered by bad or non-existent planning and goalsetting when it comes to our transportation infrastructure.  We did get those stimulus package Obama sidewalks though...LOL!  

Sorry for rambling on in my first post so much but I am quite passionate about transportation and it's importance to a modern nation.  It looks like some of those Chinese feel the same way too.  

Rick
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: xonhulu on February 22, 2011, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on February 21, 2011, 11:10:00 PM
Sorry for rambling on in my first post so much but I am quite passionate about transportation and it's importance to a modern nation.  It looks like some of those Chinese feel the same way too.  

No need to apologize; I enjoyed the ramble.  Good history of the Coos Bay-Myrtle Point highway.  Overall, I'd say OR 42 is a pretty good road, but I agree that US 101 in Oregon does still have a lot of substandard sections.  For example, the section between Pacific City and Tillamook is atrocious.  Some of it is due to geography, but some is just plain neglect.

Speaking of Coos Bay-area things I thought would be done by now:  have they ever signed OR 540 (the Cape Arago Highway)?  As important a tourist road as it is, and since it is now indicated on the official Oregon State Highway map, I would think they'd have put up highway shields on it by now, but it still wasn't marked last summer.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: nexus73 on February 22, 2011, 12:41:13 AM
We have no 3-digit state route signs in this area at this time Xonhulu unless you want to count the old section of US 101 that is now signed as state route 42S.  Turistas have to try to wend their way through North Bend and Coos Bay, using signs with Charleston and/or State Parks as control points to guide them through all the turns.

The Cape Arago Highway used to be numbered as 240 BTW.

My first trip over the part of US 101 from the Pacific City turnoff to where the good road resumes south of Tillamook was in the later 1970's.  "How can they call this a US Highway?" ran through my mind.  The North Coast's neglect is inexcusable, especially given the amount of traffic that comes from PDX/Salem to the coast that turns popular places into traffic jams.  Seaside's NIMBY folks put an end to any talk of a bypass so add in the locals to ODOT for people to blame when you have to deal with that part of 101.

There's a reason I like to drive at night...LOL!

Rick 
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Bickendan on February 22, 2011, 12:49:57 AM
By the time any upgrades begin to work on US 101 in any appreciable degree, the 10.0 earthquake that Portland's been expecting will have drowned the Oregon Coast with tsunamis, rendering it moot!

...

And will have stranded and killed many potential evacuees because the road was substandard prior to the quake.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: nexus73 on February 22, 2011, 01:05:55 AM
When the Big One hits, it will be Kiss Your A$$ Goodbye Time in these parts and there won't be any way to evacuate with slides all over the place and bridges being down.  However you and all others are welcome to visit Old Town Marshfield, which is downtown Coos Bay.  It was all built on filled in mudflats and will liquify like the Marina District in SF did during the 1989 earthquake when the Big One comes.  Bring your metal detector and check out the ruins that remain...LOL!

Rick
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: xonhulu on February 22, 2011, 02:37:43 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on February 22, 2011, 12:41:13 AM
The Cape Arago Highway used to be numbered as 240 BTW.

It still is.  That's its internal ODOT highway number.  But there is already an OR Route 240 (Chehalem Hwy, Newberg to Yamhill), so when ODOT requested route numbers for nearly all its unsigned state highways in 2002, Arago Hwy #240 got the designation OR 540.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: hm insulators on February 22, 2011, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: Quillz on February 15, 2011, 05:15:03 PM
I-210 and I-905

What part of the 210? The freeway's been open all the way through to Pasadena from San Bernardino since 2007, I believe. The 710 through South Pasadena--now there's one.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: hm insulators on February 22, 2011, 12:55:03 PM
Widening I-5 from California 91 to I-710. That stretch was originally built long before the Interstate Highway system was proposed. When it was built, it ran through orange groves and farmland. Then Disneyland opened in 1955 and then all the orange groves were ripped out for subdivisions and shopping malls, and small towns like Anaheim and Garden Grove became big L.A. suburbs but that poor little I-5 was never widened between the I-605 and the 91. The stretch south of the 91 all the way into Irvine was widened in the 1990s--about twenty years after it should've been.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: hobsini2 on February 25, 2011, 07:57:10 AM
Brandon, it seems that you and I are on the same wavelength when it comes to the rich bastards in Long Grove.  Too bad eminent domain is not being used for the 12 freeway here.  And besides, the corridor was planned back in the 70's when Long Grove didn't have half the pop it does now.  Those people should have known about the corridor when they built their homes.  I heard a story about why the extension of 355 going to 80 was held up.  Probably legend but i am going with it.  A guy in Homer Glen whose home was 1/4 mile from the corridor said he had a unique species of butterfly that was indiginous to his acreage.  He got a judge who was environmentally friendly to order the state to redo the envirnment study along with the injuction for 10 years.  The state had the study done in 6 months and discovered this "unique" butterfly species was indeed common.  It was the state Monarch.  So beacuase of one bastard in Homer Glen, we had to pay an additional $50 million due to inflation for 355 than back in 1995 when it was supposed to be built.  God I hate NIMBYS!
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: cubssoxfan on March 08, 2011, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 25, 2011, 07:57:10 AM
Brandon, it seems that you and I are on the same wavelength when it comes to the rich bastards in Long Grove.  Too bad eminent domain is not being used for the 12 freeway here.  And besides, the corridor was planned back in the 70's when Long Grove didn't have half the pop it does now.  Those people should have known about the corridor when they built their homes.  I heard a story about why the extension of 355 going to 80 was held up.  Probably legend but i am going with it.  A guy in Homer Glen whose home was 1/4 mile from the corridor said he had a unique species of butterfly that was indiginous to his acreage.  He got a judge who was environmentally friendly to order the state to redo the envirnment study along with the injuction for 10 years.  The state had the study done in 6 months and discovered this "unique" butterfly species was indeed common.  It was the state Monarch.  So beacuase of one bastard in Homer Glen, we had to pay an additional $50 million due to inflation for 355 than back in 1995 when it was supposed to be built.  God I hate NIMBYS!
Rte 12 freeway? Do you mean the IL 53 extension and the western leg that goes along IL 120 and then near McHenry goes NW to connect with US12 at the WI border?
I agree this is long overdue.  The few, screwing over the many that have to deal with the traffic bottlenecks.  Maybe the state should propose 6 laning IL 53 to IL 83,8 laning Il 83 and 4 laning Quentin Rd as an alternate. Maybe then a 6 lane, compact IL 53 extension will be far more palatable!
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: hobsini2 on March 09, 2011, 11:41:57 PM
Originally, the stub of Rt 53 that had ended at Dundee Rd (Rt 68), later extended to Lake Cook Rd, was to connect directly with the US 12 freeway near Genoa City WI.  This was long before the thought of IL 120 being in the mix.  ISTHA later revised this, after the nimbys killed the original plan, to what it is today.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: wh15395 on March 10, 2011, 06:57:59 AM
I-69 between I-465 (Exit 0) and S.R. 9 (Exit 26) in Indiana. INDOT recently widened I-69 to four lanes from I-465 to mile marker 6 in the northbound lanes. In addition to this they need to do the same thing in the southbound lanes and rework the interchanges at I-465 and 116th street (Exit 5), which is planned to be done by 2015 I think. The problem is that north of this area, INDOT has planned nothing. During rush hour, traffic is right at (if not below) the posted speed limit of 70 MPH. The freeway needs expanded to six lanes up to S.R. 13 (Exit 14) if they do the minimum amount, and S.R. 9 (Exit 26) if they want to do what's really needed.

Example of I-69 every morning during rush hour:
http://pws.trafficwise.org/ipws/ci/images/gen_1299758223_234_20_21_50-proc.jpg (http://pws.trafficwise.org/ipws/ci/images/gen_1299758223_234_20_21_50-proc.jpg)
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: ftballfan on March 13, 2011, 07:08:38 PM
In Michigan
US-31 between Napier Ave and I-94 (Benton Harbor area)
US-31 between I-196 and I-96 (Holland/Grand Haven bypass)
US-127 upgrade to full freeway between Ithaca and St. Johns
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Bryant5493 on March 13, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
I-75 - South Georgia widening


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: ftballfan on March 13, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on March 13, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
I-75 - South Georgia widening


Be well,

Bryant

I was a passenger on South Georgia's section of I-75 in 2009 and I can remember the constant construction zones.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Mergingtraffic on March 14, 2011, 06:17:15 PM
Quote from: hm insulators on February 22, 2011, 12:55:03 PM
Widening I-5 from California 91 to I-710. That stretch was originally built long before the Interstate Highway system was proposed. When it was built, it ran through orange groves and farmland. Then Disneyland opened in 1955 and then all the orange groves were ripped out for subdivisions and shopping malls, and small towns like Anaheim and Garden Grove became big L.A. suburbs but that poor little I-5 was never widened between the I-605 and the 91. The stretch south of the 91 all the way into Irvine was widened in the 1990s--about twenty years after it should've been.

How may lanes is I-5 between 605 & 91?
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 14, 2011, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: doofy103 on March 14, 2011, 06:17:15 PM

How may lanes is I-5 between 605 & 91?

it's been widened to 4 + carpool lane or 5 + carpool lane between 39 (LA/OC county line) and 91.  north of 39, it is three lanes for the most part, occasionally 4.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: cubssoxfan on March 15, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 09, 2011, 11:41:57 PM
Originally, the stub of Rt 53 that had ended at Dundee Rd (Rt 68), later extended to Lake Cook Rd, was to connect directly with the US 12 freeway near Genoa City WI.  This was long before the thought of IL 120 being in the mix.  ISTHA later revised this, after the nimbys killed the original plan, to what it is today.

I remember a Chicago Tribune road map from the early 70's that showed the 53 extension going north and an expressway running parallel to Il rte 120 and this connected to the Fox Valley expressway. Any way, it's probably splitting hairs and the voters have said YES, but the politicians lack the stones to deal with the NIMBYS (many which moved in AFTER the road had been planned). The 53 expressway actually had concrete poured and was completed NORTH of Dundee Rd.(although not completely to Lake Cook) with a complete interchange at Dundee. 
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Eth on March 15, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on March 13, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on March 13, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
I-75 - South Georgia widening


Be well,

Bryant

I was a passenger on South Georgia's section of I-75 in 2009 and I can remember the constant construction zones.

I remember them from a trip from Atlanta to Valdosta in 2004.  This still isn't finished yet?!
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: kaothinterceptor on March 15, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: bulldog1979 on February 20, 2011, 03:36:58 AM
1) The northern end of the St. Joseph Valley Parkway, aka the US 31 freeway in Berrien County. Just pick a plan and built it already.

2) The US 127 freeway between Ithaca and St. Johns. The interchange for M-57 is there, just need to start the freeway.

NORTH STAR. The gap is from St. John's to NORTH STAR.

Anyway...

I-295 on the east side of Jacksonville, FL
US 31 (both Michigan gaps)
I-73/I-74 in NC or SC
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: InterstateNG on March 15, 2011, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: kaothinterceptor on March 15, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
NORTH STAR. The gap is from St. John's to NORTH STAR.

It's from St. John's to Ithaca.   North Star is nothing.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: Bryant5493 on March 15, 2011, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: Eth on March 15, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on March 13, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on March 13, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
I-75 - South Georgia widening


Be well,

Bryant

I was a passenger on South Georgia's section of I-75 in 2009 and I can remember the constant construction zones.

I remember them from a trip from Atlanta to Valdosta in 2004.  This still isn't finished yet?!

To my knowledge -- and after looking on the GDOT site -- no.


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: mightyace on March 16, 2011, 12:19:53 AM
^^^

It was still going strong in July 2010.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: kaothinterceptor on March 16, 2011, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: InterstateNG on March 15, 2011, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: kaothinterceptor on March 15, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
NORTH STAR. The gap is from St. John's to NORTH STAR.

It's from St. John's to Ithaca.   North Star is nothing.

Check the maps. North Star is the northernmost end of the gap... and probably the reason for the gap.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: ShawnP on March 16, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
 The east end bridge in Louisville.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: InterstateNG on March 16, 2011, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: kaothinterceptor on March 16, 2011, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: InterstateNG on March 15, 2011, 10:21:36 PM
Quote from: kaothinterceptor on March 15, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
NORTH STAR. The gap is from St. John's to NORTH STAR.

It's from St. John's to Ithaca.   North Star is nothing.

Check the maps. North Star is the northernmost end of the gap... and probably the reason for the gap.

I did, because I'd never heard of North Star, and it's not.  Don't be a pedant; Ithaca is the county seat, North Star is an unincorporated cluster of houses.  The reason for the gap is all the driveway access on that stretch as well as probably not wanting to spend the money on figuring out how to grade-separate the railroad at M-57.

The freeway gap used to be a lot longer, the St. John's bypass wasn't even done until the mid-90's.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: ftballfan on March 20, 2011, 07:09:48 PM
I think the railroad at M-57 is never used and is basically abandoned.
Title: Re: Projects you thought would be done by now....
Post by: njroadhorse on March 21, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
Extending NJ 18 to I-287.  They've been talking about that for years, and nothing has happened yet.