I'm starting this as I mentioned in the Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4131.0) thread about TN 243 being an old alignment of US 43.
Please post any 1 or 2 digit routes like that have become a 3 digit "child" numbering.
Mississippi's old US routes are almost always numbered as state route 1xx. For example, MS-145 is an old US-45 alignment. The only exception I can think of offhand is MS-245, which is an old alignment of Alternate US-45.
I'm not sure what they'd do if they built a bypass using US-278, which is their only three-digit US route. They'd probably make it MS-378.
Since A-30 changed alignments before even being completed, the old alignments were renumbered as such this year : A-530 (entire Valleyfield section), A-730 (St-Constant between current A-30 and QC-132) and A-930 (Delson, QC-132 to current exit 99, includes A-15 interchange).
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 01:19:21 PM
I'm starting this as I mentioned in the Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4131.0) thread about TN 243 being an old alignment of US 43.
Please post any 1 or 2 digit routes like that have become a 3 digit "child" numbering.
Probably not intentional, but a new KY 30 alignment is now in use and the old route is called KY 3630.
WV 152 is an old route of US 52.
MN 361 is part of old US 61.
Minnesota has also done this with some state routes. Part of what was MN 49 is now MN 149. Likewise MN 56 and 156.
I think for a time part of old MN 3 was MN 103.
1. WI 253 is old US 53 before the freeway was built.
2. WI 241 (27th St) and WI 341 (Miller Park Way) are old US 41 before they moved 41 onto I-94 near Milwaukee.
3. It would not surprise me if part of WI 145 had been US 45 before the Zoo Freeway was built.
4. IL 267 i believe was an old alignment for US 67 south of Jacksonville IL. Rich Carlson would probably know better than I on this one.
A part of old US 35 near Washington Court House, Ohio is now OH 435, probably because OH 435 provides the only connection between current US 35 and I-71.
QuoteI'm not sure what they'd do if they built a bypass using US-278, which is their only three-digit US route. They'd probably make it MS-378.
As I understand it, the old alignment will not remain a state route. If it does, it'll likely get a MS 7xx number.
QuoteI think for a time part of old MN 3 was MN 103.
Not quite. MN 103 was used in the early 90s for completed parts of the Lafayette Freeway south of I-494. It became today's US 52 in the mid-90s once the freeway was completed to MN 55. It was so numbered because it was an extended spur of MN 3 (which at the time followed the Lafayette Freeway north of I-494), not because it replaced MN 3.
US-51 in Illinois has two: IL-251 and IL-351.
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 15, 2011, 02:36:49 PM
3. It would not surprise me if part of WI 145 had been US 45 before the Zoo Freeway was built.
Nah, US 45 has always dropped south once entering Milwaukee County ever since US 45 was added to Wisconsin. Before the freeways, US 45 stuck to Mayfair Rd/108th St/Lovers Lane Rd (depending on the municipality) through Milwaukee County to join US 41 at Appleton Ave. WI 145 in it's current form has been sort of a "spur route" like WI 310 or WI 312.
CA-69 became CA-245.
California also uses 3xx for old alignments. So CA-330 and CA-371 are old alignments of both the former CA-30 (current CA-210, eventually will be I-210) and CA-71 (truncated to CA-91 at some point).
Other examples are a portion of CA-17 becoming I-880, CA-21 becoming I-680 and CA-31 becoming I-215. However, I'm not sure if these would count because an Interstate number is always an "upgrade" over a state route number, regardless of the number of digits.
^^^
CA 30 to 330 and CA 71 to CA 371 count.
CA 69 to 245, CA 17 to I-880, CA 21 to I-689 and CA 31 to I-215 don't count as the last two digits aren't the same.
Portions of US 33 in Indiana became SR 933 after US 33 was truncated in Elkhart.
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 01:19:21 PM
Please post any 1 or 2 digit routes like that have become a 3 digit "child" numbering.
MO 571, MO 371
MO 366, MO 266
MO 350
MO 740
MO 269
MO 765
MO 763, MO 163
IOWA 471
AR 471 (now posted US 71B)
AR 367, AR 267
AR 463
AR 365 (US 65)
There is also an AR 164, but it is NOT a former alignment of US 64.
In addition to the aforementioned 330 and 371 examples for California, the short north-south connector through Concord that was built as Route 24 became legislative Route 242 in 1964, followed by that route being signed (with 24 being truncated to Walnut Creek) in the late 1980s.
First example that jumps to mind is NJ 124 = old NJ 24.
In Ohio...
309 formerly US 30 S from Mansfield to Delphos
412 formerly Oh 12 (before it was truncated) from Fremont to Sandusky
416 formerly Oh 16 (before it too was truncated) in Tuscawarus County
421 formerly US 42 through Lodi (SW Medina Co. near I-71-76 interchange)
423 formerly US 23 in Marion County
424 formerly US 24 from Defiance to Napoleon
430 formerly US 30 from Mansfield to Mifflin
435 formerly US 35 on either side of I-71 betweeen Xenia and Washington C.H.
444 (sort of) formerly Oh 4 east of Dayton (some of the original routing was abandoned for Wright-Patterson AFB)
446 formerly Oh 14 (not Oh 46) bypass of Canfield (SW of Youngstown)
450 is NOT a former alignment of US 50, east of Cincy, but an aborted rerouting for US 50
550 formerly Alt US 50 (and originally US 50 N) between Athens and Marietta
735 formerly US 35 near Galopolis
800 formerly Oh 8 from Canton to Ely (Ohio River)
821 formerly US 21 from Byesville (near Cambridge) to Marietta
833 formerly US 33 around Pomeroy
And special mention to former Oh 440 which is what former and current US 40 was signed as in the 1960s when sections of I-70 were completed (and of which US 40 was "rerouted" onto)
Rhode Island:
238 is an old alignment of 138
246 is an old alignment of 146
214 could be an old alignment of 114...
33 is an old alignment of 3, I believe.
US 15 from Painted Post to Wayland > NY 415
also, NY17 -> NY417.
Though, of course, with I-86 eating up 17, could 417 be renumbered back to 17?
I'm fairly sure VA 457 is a renumbering of an old alignment of VA 57.
NJ 120 = former 20, once it was clear it would never connect to the other piece(s)
NJ 122 = original US 22, later ALT 22 after a bypass was built in the late 20s/early 30s
NJ 138 = former 38, once it was clear it would never connect to the other piece
NJ 143 = former 43, though the original 43 is now US 30 (this was built as a like-numbered spur)
NJ 187 = former 87
Honorable mention: NJ 324 is old US 322. You can see what they did there.
In South Texas, SH 359 was once part of US 59. While in DFW, SH 180 was part of US 80.
Connecticut loves to "rhyme" with a former numbering. Here's what comes to mind:
Old alignments of CT 72: CT 272, CT 372, SR 572
CT 17: SR 517
CT 35A: SR 835
CT 39: SR 839
CT 67: SR 867 (via CT 67A)
CT 84: CT 184 (via CT 95)
CT 87 was to become CT 287, but the conflicting interstate (87) became 684 instead
These are 3di to 3di renumberings: tangentially related to the thread:
CT 109: CT 209
US 202: CT 302
SR 905: CT 305
SR 909: CT 309
(many more examples involving secret routes: almost every signed route above 220 is based on a rhyming secret route)
Old US 85 in Las Cruces NM-it has become NM 185.
Historic US 66 in Missouri has become MO 66, MO 266 & MO 366 (no 166 because of US 166)
VA 293 used to be US 29 Business and before that US 29
and of course the infamous VA 360 used to be US 360
Virginia routes that meet the criteria:
VA 28 -> VA 228
VA 29 -> VA 229
VA 57 -> VA 457
US 58 ALT -> VA 158
VA 119 -> VA 419
US 158 -> US 258
VA 158 -> VA 258
US 60 -> US 360
I-95 -> I-395
NC routes:
US 25 -> NC 225
NC 26 -> NC 226
NC 26A -> NC 226A
NC 42 -> NC 142
NC 57 -> NC 157
NC 77 -> NC 177
US 17-1 -> US 117
US 321 -> US 421
SC routes:
US 29 -> SC 129
US 76 -> US 276
SC 77 -> SC 177
SC 81 -> SC 181
one in reverse: SC 317 -> US 17
Mapmikey
Minnesota examples of past and present:
- Old US 2 through East Grand Forks was designated MN 202 for a few years before becoming BUSINESS US 2.
- Old US 16 through Austin became MN 116. It was dropped around 1980 and is now BL I-90.
- Old MN 23 through/east of Sandstone is now MN 123.
- MN 135 was originally MN 35. It was renumbered to avoid duplication with I-35.
- MN 149 was originally part of MN 49.
- MN 156 was originally part of MN 56.
- A "reverse case": old MN 165 originally existed between Faribault and Lakeville, and became part of a US 65 reroute in the late 1950s.
- MN 172 was originally part of MN 72.
- MN 190 was originally MN 90. As with MN 35/135, it was renumbered to avoid duplication with an Interstate.
- MN 194 was originally MN 94. Same deal as with MN 35 and MN 90.
- Old MN 101 through Elk River was briefly designated as MN 201 before being dropped in 1985.
- Another, and recent, "reverse case": the new US 212 freeway through Eden Prairie was designated MN 312 as segments were completed. Upon full completion to Chaska, it became the rerouted US 212.
- The north-south part of MN 361 was originally part of US 61.
Also, MnDOT uses a hidden MN 8xx designation for both former and "extended" segments of state highway that are still maintained by MnDOT and are part of the state highway system. They also use a hidden MN 9xx designation for former highway segments that are either proposed to be or are in the process of being "turned back" (i.e. dropped from the state system).
Quote from: triplemultiplex on February 15, 2011, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 15, 2011, 02:36:49 PM
3. It would not surprise me if part of WI 145 had been US 45 before the Zoo Freeway was built.
Nah, US 45 has always dropped south once entering Milwaukee County ever since US 45 was added to Wisconsin. Before the freeways, US 45 stuck to Mayfair Rd/108th St/Lovers Lane Rd (depending on the municipality) through Milwaukee County to join US 41 at Appleton Ave. WI 145 in it's current form has been sort of a "spur route" like WI 310 or WI.
The part of 145 I was talking about was actually in Waukesha and Washington Counties. I knew that 45 used to be on Mayfair Rd.
New Jersey has some examples.
The old alignment of U.S. 9 into Cape May is NJ 109.
The old alignment of U.S. 22 toward Phillipsburg is now NJ 122 (was Alt. U.S. 22)
The old alignment of NJ 24 between Morristown and Short Hills is now NJ 124.
What was Bus. U.S. 1&9 between Tonnele Circle and the Holland Tunnel is NJ 139 (a bit of a stretch . . .)
What was the eastern end of NJ 38 (the extension of I-195 east of the GSP) is now 138.
The portion of NJ 20 around the Meadowlands became NJ 120.
Those are the only ones that come to mind.
Louisiana: From Raceland to Lafayette, old U.S. 90 is La. 182. From Lafayette to Opelousas, La. 182 is the former U.S. 167.
Louisiana: LA 3062 is an old part of LA 2, when LA 2 was routed directly into the Homer town square to intersect with US 79 and LA 9 (many many moons ago). LA 2 now intersects US 79 about 2 miles to the north.
How about adding suffixes to old alignments? IIRC, old NH 16 in Ossipee is now NH 16B.
US 95 in California used to be Bear Route CA 195.
and US-395 between what is today CA-14 and I-15 used to be bear 95.
the current M-120 was once part of M-20
the current M-121 was once part of M-21
the current, unsigned M-143 was once part of M-43
Ohio has 8xx as old alignments of several US routes. Until recently, there was a US-33 cutout on OH-833 coming in from West Virginia!
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 20, 2011, 11:21:28 PM
Ohio has 8xx as old alignments of several US routes. Until recently, there was a US-33 cutout on OH-833 coming in from West Virginia!
Oh 833 has been in existance for 7 years now since US 33 was rerouted.
Feel free to peruse the other 3XX, 4XX, 5XX, 7XX, and 8XX routes in Ohio back on page one of this thread
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4167.msg91425#msg91425
Quote from: Adam Smith on February 21, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
Oh 833 has been in existance for 7 years now since US 33 was rerouted.
what was the number for what is now current 33? that big green truss bridge has to be much more than 7 years old.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 21, 2011, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: Adam Smith on February 21, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
Oh 833 has been in existance for 7 years now since US 33 was rerouted.
what was the number for what is now current 33? that big green truss bridge has to be much more than 7 years old.
That bridge was completed in the early 80s. It just took Ohio 20 years to complete the highway from Pomeroy to the bridge. As for it's number, I don't know offhand. It was not X33. Heck, it might have been a WVa number.
WV 338. Unsigned but so numbered to match up with OH 338 on the other side of the bridge, before US 33 was built and routed across the bridge.
M-125 in Monroe County, MI is/was old U.S. 25 before it was truncated to Cincinnati.
MS 149 (old US 49)
Wiggins, MS
Magee, MS
MS 149 (old US 49W)
Yazoo City, MS
The Superstition Freeway in Phoenix became US 60 in 1992. Before that it was AZ 360.
AZ 51, the Piestewa Freeway was planned to be I-510 until 1968.
I-110/CA 110- the Harbor Fwy, Pasadena Fwy & Arroyo Seco Pkwy used to be CA 11.
I-710-the Long Beach Fwy used to be CA 7.
I-705 in Tacoma WA is an extension of WA 7.
IL 242 is an old alignment of IL 142
IL 203 is an old alignment of IL 3
IL 54 used to be US 54
Some more in Michigan:
M-10 in Detroit was US-10
M-27 in the Cheboygan area was US-27
US-127 north of Lansing was US-27
Also, parts of M-25 in the thumb used to be US-25. Isn't part of M-43 formerly US-16?
And, OH Route 25 in the Toledo area used to be part of US-25 as well.
My bad...just read the thread title. You're looking for 3di that replaced 2di routes.
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 01:19:21 PM
I'm starting this as I mentioned in the Old alignments as multiples/divisor routes (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4131.0) thread about TN 243 being an old alignment of US 43.
Please post any 1 or 2 digit routes like that have become a 3 digit "child" numbering.
I always wondered why SSR 243 is numbered as US 43A or US 43 Business. TN like to use alternates and banners.
For a time, there was Arkansas 471 in NW Arkansas, but it was changed to 71B
MO 266 in Missouri was once US 66 between Springfield and Halltown.
MO 366 is old 66 in the St Louis area.
MO 571 is old Alternate 71 in Carthage, MO
IN 930 is an old alignment of US 30 through Fort Wayne
IN 931 are old alignments of US 31 through Lakeville and Kokomo
IN 933 is an old alignment of US 33 through South Bend and Mishawaka
MA 203 (former MA 3)
Pretty sure at least parts of IL 250 are old alignments of US 50. Don't think the whole route is, tho
Quote from: ilpt4u on November 08, 2020, 08:54:13 PM
Pretty sure at least parts of IL 250 are old alignments of US 50. Don't think the whole route is, tho
IL 251 is old US 51
Mattoon, IL used to have IL 316 that was old IL 16, but it's been decommissioned.
Most of M-227 in Michigan used to be part of US-27. (The weird westward jog at the northern end is inexplicable.)
PA 760: When the freeway/tollway portion of PA 60 got taken over by the I-376 extension, there were 2 non-highway segments of PA 60 remaining. The southern segment near Pittsburgh remained PA 60 and the northern segment near Sharon was renumbered as PA 760.
Quote from: US71 on November 08, 2020, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on November 08, 2020, 08:54:13 PM
Pretty sure at least parts of IL 250 are old alignments of US 50. Don't think the whole route is, tho
IL 251 is old US 51
Only reason I didn't mention IL 251 and IL 351 in relation to US 51 is because it was mentioned earlier, back when this thread was originally alive in 2011
A twist on this theme: WV-817 was formerly US-35, but is numbered such after originally being WV-17. After the Silver Bridge Disaster, the DOH got approval to swap US-35 to the south side of the Kanawha River to meet up with the new Silver Bridge (sometime late 1969 or early 1970). The number WV-17 was reused after US-119 was relocated onto Corridor G north and east of Logan about 1976.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 08, 2020, 07:26:42 PM
IN 930 is an old alignment of US 30 through Fort Wayne
IN 931 are old alignments of US 31 through Lakeville and Kokomo
IN 933 is an old alignment of US 33 through South Bend and Mishawaka
A couple more from Indiana:
IN 106: old alignment of US 6 through Bremen
IN 263: old alignment of SR 63 before the four-lane realignment around West Lebanon
IN 340: old alignment of US 40 before the four-lane realignment around Billtown and Clovertown
In Missouri, there is MO 224 from East of Lexington, MO to West of Napoleon, MO, which was originally US 24 from 1927 to 1959.
Kentucky has been doing this of late, but using four-digit routes.
KY 2227 -- old alignment of US 27 north of Somerset (which is actually on its third alignment, the original being KY 1247).
KY 3630 -- old alignment of KY 30 in Jackson and Laurel counties.
KY 2750 -- old alignment of US 150 between Stanford and Mt. Vernon.
The location of KY 162 makes me wonder if perhaps it's not an old alignment of US 62 between Bardstown and Bloomfield.
Quote from: hbelkins on November 10, 2020, 11:10:53 AM
The location of KY 162 makes me wonder if perhaps it's not an old alignment of US 62 between Bardstown and Bloomfield.
I had that thought about IL 145 in relation to US 45 in Southern Illinois between Harrisburg and Metropolis, but when I looked it up, that doesn't appear to be the case.
I'm not even sure that the 145 number was given as a relation to US 45, as that part of Southern IL is where the 140s are anyway. 145 intersects 146 and 147, for example
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 16, 2011, 06:34:37 AM
NC routes:
US 25 -> NC 225
NC 26 -> NC 226
NC 26A -> NC 226A
NC 42 -> NC 142
NC 57 -> NC 157
NC 77 -> NC 177
US 17-1 -> US 117
US 321 -> US 421
Mapmikey
Previously in North Carolina the former NC-681 was a renumbering of NC-68. The route was renumbered again in the early 1940s and is now part of multi-state WV/VA/NC-16.
Two more for Michigan:
M-247 once was part of M-47 before the latter was redesignated over a different corridor.
Most recently, M-343 northeast of Kalamazoo was once part of M-43.
Another MO example- Much of the old Route 13 south of Springfield is now Route 413.
MA 225 was the original MA 25.
MA 124 was the original MA 24.
When WI 13 was separated into 3 segments, The longest segment remained as WI 13, but the other 2 segments became WI 113 and WI 213.
This doesn't happen often in MD since many of the 3 digit numbers are taken. So former alignments typically have an unassociated 3 digit number.
But there are some:
The most visible one is MD 924 and MD 24. MD 924 even shows up on the I-95 exit for MD 24.
MD 80 / MD 880.
MD 949 is an unsigned severed piece of MD 49.
MD 936 / 36
MD 832 is a severed former piece of 32
MD 750 / US 50
Here's an interesting one. An old alignment of MD 2/MD 4 is MD 524.
3 more in Arkansas:
AR 365 is old US 65 (Conway to Pine Bluff)
AR 367 is old US 67 (Cabot to Walnut Ridge)
AR 329 from Lockesburg to DeQueen was an original alignment for US 71
Other than the PA 760 example someone mentioned earlier, I don't think PA generally does this unless we get into comparing the Quadrant Routes to their newer parallel State Routes.
In NY, US 15's old alignment is Steuben County 115.
Forgot about these in my old backyard. WV-114 is a renumbering of WV-14 along the Greenbrier Street cutoff from the town of Big Chimney down to the State Capitol. Yes, there really was a big chimney right up against Elk River Road. At the same time, WV-14 south of Charleston got renumbered as WV-214. The portion of WV-214 running up Oakwood Road along Ferry Branch a few hundred yards to the new exit got renumbered as US-119 running backwards when the new I-64 Fort Hill Bridge opened in the mid-1970s. When the remainder of Corridor G opened, the section of WV-214 from the exit to Davis Creek got renumbered as US-119 and the Ferry Branch portion became unsigned US-119 Connector (posted as TO US-119).
Simplified: After I-64 was completed, US-119 southbound out of Charleston ran across the Fort Hill Bridge and took Exit 58A and then turned left (north) onto Oakwood a short piece to mulitplex with WV-61 southbound all the way down to the Marmet exit of the Turnpike. WV-214 turned right onto Oakwood. After Corridor G was completed, US-119 still took Exit 58A but then turned right onto Oakwood (replacing WV-214 down to Davis Creek).