This is an interesting question, but does anyone know of multiplexes that have two or three or more routes that locals only show respect to one of them ONLY!
In Florida where US 17, US 92, and US 441 are triplexed between Orlando and Kissimmee locals refer to it as US 441 or 441! Even on Central Florida Parkway there are missing shields for US 17 & 92, but a pair of directional shields and a junction shield for US 441 both ways at the intersection there!
In Orlando on FL 527 there is only FL 50 shields where it junction with US 17, US 92, and FL 50 and locals refer it only to Highway 50 as well.
The US 27 and US 441 duplex in Lake and Marion Counties in Central Florida is only referred to being US 441!
In Georgia where US 25 and US 341 are signed concurrently, locals seem to only think that US 341 exists there as well!
I do not know if this is true or not, but a roadgeek once told me that no place in the Peach State calls out US 23 spite it is the states longest US designation of over 400 miles. It is either reffered to by its GA secret route, local name, or other US routes that are concurrent!
Are there any others out there that people call by one route number?
the I-95/MA-128 multiplex is, thirty years after the interstate designation, still called solely "route 128" by the locals.
Except over the concurrency with I-80, US-287 gets prime billing over all other routes through Wyoming. If you said to take 30 up to Med Bow from Laramie you would get weird looks. Nobody acknowledges US-18, and I'm pretty sure 26 is only acknowledged east of I-25.
Also, not quite on subject but it just occurred to me that I've noticed a lot of people down here in Tucson call I-19 "I-10" and I-10 is just "the road to New Mexico"
on a related note, old US-101 in the north part of San Diego County is called just that: "the 101". Hasn't been signed as such since 1966 but that's what it is.
US-6 is multiplexed through Greater Hartford and Danbury with I-84 and it's always referred to as 84...once it's off 84 it's back to being known as Route 6...or Suicide 6...
I-64 and US-40 in St Louis is commonly called "Highway 40" by the locals.
SR 8 and SR 59 in Akron and Cuyahoga Falls. When SR 59 joins SR 8, the multiplex section is referred only as "Route 8."
The entire A-15/QC-132 and A-20/QC-132 south of Montreal is referred to as "The 132"; the A-40/A-15 in Montreal is "The 40", or even "The Metropolitan". The QC-132/QC-138 in Châteauguay and Kahnawake is just "The 138".
Quote from: roadman65 on March 24, 2011, 05:52:48 PM
I do not know if this is true or not, but a roadgeek once told me that no place in the Peach State calls out US 23 spite it is the states longest US designation of over 400 miles. It is either reffered to by its GA secret route, local name, or other US routes that are concurrent!
I can't speak for the whole state, but it's certainly true in metro Atlanta. Northeast of town it's just called Buford Highway. On the southside, it's referred to universally as "forty-two" (for GA 42, which is its multiplex there).
Similarly, US 19/GA 400 north of Atlanta is referred to only as "400" or "GA 400", never "US 19".
The Interstate 465 beltway around Indianapolis is always called 465, or I-465, no mention of I-74 that follows it around the south and west legs and there will probably be no reference to I-69 when it is multiplexed around the highway as well. When you refer to I-74 it's always the part outside the 465 beltway.
US 50 from MD Eastern Shore to DC is just called "50" even though there is US 301, I-595 and MD 2. MD 16, MD 18 that tags along for some of the route.
There are a few of these in Michigan. The most infamous is I-96/I-275 in Metro Detroit, which is known strictly as "275" despite the fact that FHWA doesn't even consider I-275 to extend onto that stretch of road. There are also a couple of instances where a US highway shares a long multiplex with an Interstate but no one really refers to it that way, such as I-75/US 23 (usually known simply as I-75) and I-196/US 31 (I think people call this 196).
Venturing a few miles south of the border, US 23 joins I-475. I don't think many people traveling to or from Michigan pay any attention to the Interstate designation on that road. Don't forget about the multiplexes that are almost always referred to by name rather than by number, e.g. Ohio Turnpike/Indiana Toll Road for I-80/90 and the Dan Ryan for I-90/94.
Seems fairly common that with interstate - US Route multiplexes, the US Route seemingly disappears in normal conversation, but may occasionally show up on newspaper maps.
Illinois
* I-255/US 50 - US 50 rarely mentioned
* I-64/US 50 - same
* I-72/US 36 - US 36 rarely mentioned
Missouri
* I-70/US 40 - US 40 rarely mentioned
* I-44/US 50 - US 50 rarely mentioned, the decommissioned US 66 seems more likely to be mentioned
* I-255/US 50 - US 50 almost never mentioned
Other candidates, not necessarily I-/US combinations
* I-55/I-72 around Springfield, IL - So far it seems I-72 goes into hiding in conversations regarding this section
* US 40/US 61/I-64 in St. Louis County - In addition to I-64 often being neglected, US 61 also seems to disappear often. I recall the section in St. Charles County getting the 40-61 name though
In Las Vegas, the I-515/US 93/US 95 multiplex is simply referred to as US 95 (or "the 95"). Through North Las Vegas, the I-15/US 93 multiplex is simply referred to as I-15 (or "the 15").
In both cases, this is largely due to the fact that US 93 changes from one freeway to the other at the Spaghetti Bowl downtown, whereas its partnered highway crosses through the interchange and exists on its own, proving to be the through route that is more dominant for travel directions.
In the case of I-515, that route has only been signed for about 15-16 years and only overlaps part of US 95, so it's not really a through route that people recognize like I-15 or US 95. It's only been within the last 5-8 years that more people around the Vegas area have started referring to "the 515" or even know where it is. Longtime locals will exclusively refer to that multiplex as 95 (even I do when not in "roadgeek mode").
the short section of I-57/64 in Mt. Vernon is mostly referred as I-57; the same is true for I-57/US 51 in deep southern Illinois
Down here in North Texas, where I-30/US 67 in Hunt and Hopkins counties are multiplexed, 67 is often forgotten.
Up here in northern California, most people, including traffic reporters, refer to a segment of the Eastshore Freeway from the MacArthur Maze to the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge exit only as I-80 even though it is multiplexed with I-580. I guess that's because there are so few multiplexes in California.
A couple here in Wisconsin:
-The part of the WI 441 freeway that also includes US 10 here in the Appleton area is always referred to by locals as simply 'WI 441', 'Highway 441' or just '441'. West of US 41, that freeway is 'US 10' or 'Highway 10'.
-In metro Milwaukee, the part of I-894 that includes I-43 is still just 'I-894'.
Mike
Alt US 72/AL 20 in North Alabama is more commonly known by the locals as Highway 20. I guess Highway 20 is easier to say than US 72 Alternate or Alternate US 72.
KY 11 and KY 15 through Powell County, Ky. Officially it's just KY 11 since Kentucky signs but doesn't officially recognize co-signed routes, but locals call it Highway 15.
I-265 and KY 841, the Gene Synder Freeway, referred to as 841.
I-76/277 and US 224 in the Lodi/Akron area - many locals, 50 years after the I-76 portion became an interstate and pushing 40 years after it became I-76 (it was I-80S), many locals still call it Route 224.
Quote from: myosh_tino on March 25, 2011, 02:26:47 AM
Up here in northern California, most people, including traffic reporters, refer to a segment of the Eastshore Freeway from the MacArthur Maze to the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge exit only as I-80 even though it is multiplexed with I-580. I guess that's because there are so few multiplexes in California.
to the bridge, at which point 80 has split off and the route is solely 580?
I wish they'd just call it "17". 80/580 has gotta be the most absurd multiplex on the interstate system. for a state that avoids multiplexes, California really made a boner with this one.
I remember a time when I came to a dead stop at the on-ramp, attempting to figure out that if I wanted to head north, would I need to be going eastwest or westeast?
The US 67/167 freeway N. of Little Rock is usually just referred to as US 67(although you do occasionally hear "US 67/167" in ads). Even though US 64 is also on the portion of the freeway between Beebe and Bald Knob, US 64 is almost never acknowledged.
I-279/Truck US 19 is just I-279 on guide signs and aside from "Parkway North" is sometimes called just "279." The same with "the Parkway" which is I-376/US 22/US 30 for most of it's length, being referred to just as I-376 on guides and less commonly as "376." In both cases, the US route multiplexes are mentioned on auxiliary signage at major interchanges.
Here in MN we have a ton of unsigned multiplexes.
For example I-94/US 10/US 12/US 52 and I-94/US 10/US 12/US 61 are both just "94".
For those that are actually signed, I've never heard anyone refer to I-494/MN 5 as anything other than "494". I-94/I-694 in the north metro is generally just "694".
In Downtown Los Angeles when the 10 and 5 multiplex for a couple of miles, the 10 isn't even signed. It's almost as if the 10 vanishes for 2 miles.
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 25, 2011, 02:54:24 PM
In Downtown Los Angeles when the 10 and 5 multiplex for a couple of miles, the 10 isn't even signed. It's almost as if the 10 vanishes for 2 miles.
Technically, it does. Legislatively, it 'ends' at the East LA Interchange at I-5 and 'begins' at US 101 at the western terminus of the San Bernardino Freeway.
Oregon: The I-5/OR 99 or I-5/OR99E duplexes are all effectively I-5. The I-5/US 30 and I-405/US 30 duplexes effectively don't exist, though they'll be signed on maps. I-84/US30(/US395) are I-84, or the Banfield in Portland.
I suspect the I-84/US20/26/30 quadplex in Idaho is just I-84...
US 151/IA 13 in the Cedar Rapids area is referred to just as "Highway 13" by locals.
You'd never know CR 536 follows US 322 in SW New Jersey from talking to people, but it's on all the signs. (In that part of the state, county routes DO get recognition by number, so it's fair.)
Don't ever tell anyone in NJ that I-95 follows The Turnpike. "I'm taking I-95 into New York." "From the Turnpike?" The only way that anyone knows 95 is on the Turnpike is when you bring up there being two 95s in NJ, and then they seem to forget the next minute.
An inverse case, 38/70 - Not a concurrency, but everyone thinks it is. For a good mile, it's just NJ 38 between 70 and US 30. I could be wrong, but I also think that the adjacent 30/130 concurrency is just known as Route 130.
I-87/287 - Perhaps because of how long it took to get to NJ, most people don't recognize 287 along this stretch. I-287 in NY is strictly the Cross-Westchester. I think 287/17 at the I-87 interchange is even just referred to as 17, such that you might say to take 287 to 17 to get to the Thruway.
On street signs, U.S. 23/S.R. 42 -- in Clayton and Henry counties (Ga.) -- is just referred to as S.R. 42, or Hwy. 42.
Be well,
Bryant
Near me, US 206 multiplexes with NJ 94 through my town, but its just referred to as "206."
The I-295 and US 130 multiplex in Gloucester County is referred to as 295.
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 24, 2011, 07:35:50 PM
The Interstate 465 beltway around Indianapolis is always called 465, or I-465, no mention of I-74 that follows it around the south and west legs and there will probably be no reference to I-69 when it is multiplexed around the highway as well. When you refer to I-74 it's always the part outside the 465 beltway.
That's true for locals, but what's weird is on my GPS, it refers to the South Side of 465 as I-74, not 465.
The I-95/I-64 concurrency in Richmond is universally referred to as "95" or "I-95". Which makes sense as I-64's mileposts are effectively "silent"; the concurrency uses I-95's mileage, mileposts, and exit numbering.
The only combined reassurance marker on the route itself (there are plenty of combined trailblazers on surface streets) is on I-95 NB/I-64 WB just north of US 1/301, which itself is only referred to by either the names of its streets (Chamberlayne, Belvidere, Jefferson Davis, etc) or "301". There is one I-95/I-64 pull-through sign SB near VA 161.
Other than the 80/580 concurrency, co-signed routes rarely ever are acknowledged in the Bay Area:
880/84 in Hayward
101/84 in Redwood City
101/1 on the Golden Gate Bridge
280/1 in Daly City
280/35 from San Bruno to San Mateo
It doesn't exist anymore, but the old 680/24 concurrency between Walnut Creek and Pleasant Hill likely falls in this category as well.
In Sacramento, the section of Business 80/Capital City Freeway that is concurrent with US 50 is always referred to as "US 50" by locals and by traffic reporters. The 99 concurrency on 50 and 5 isn't noted much.
those sections of CA-1 which are multiplexed with US-101 are done so quite silently. except in Ventura, where there are some green signs that reference both route numbers, I cannot think of any examples of the multiplex being signed.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 29, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
those sections of CA-1 which are multiplexed with US-101 are done so quite silently. except in Ventura, where there are some green signs that reference both route numbers, I cannot think of any examples of the multiplex being signed.
Just north of the Golden Gate Bridge, there are a few 101/1 trailblazers. Santa Barbara is the worst offender at not acknowledging 1 at all though.
I want to say the area around San Luis Obispo/Pismo Beach is a little better for 101/1 signing.
US 41/64/72 from Jasper to Chattanooga,TN. Locals just call it "Highway 41".
US 81/287 from Fort Worth to Bowie, TX. Locals refer to it as "287". Interesting considering that the 81 signs are on top (because there the smaller number), and a long time ago this was just US 81, and 287 was added to it later in history. It does, however, make sense from a logical standpoint. This is because US 287 is the more important highway, remaining a heavily traveled divided highway to Amarillo and beyond, while US 81 splits off and becomes a much-less important two alne road servicing only smaller towns in Oklahoma.
Quote from: Brian556 on March 29, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
US 81 splits off and becomes a much-less important two alne road servicing only smaller towns in Oklahoma.
am I the only one who thinks of US-81 as being a very important highway? I always consider it to be the dividing line between "east" and "west" in the United States, and whenever I cross US-81 I note this fact - as opposed to, say, 83 or 77.
for that reason, I am sad that it no longer exists under I-35 to Laredo.
QuoteI always consider it to be the dividing line between "east" and "west" in the United States, and whenever I cross US-81 I note this fact - as opposed to, say, 83 or 77
I've noticed that the humidity feels like it jumps around 50 percentage points every time I cross US-81 heading east, no matter where I am in the country. So yeah, I agree
Quote from: AlpsROADS on March 27, 2011, 10:17:37 AM
I-87/287 - Perhaps because of how long it took to get to NJ, most people don't recognize 287 along this stretch. I-287 in NY is strictly the Cross-Westchester. I think 287/17 at the I-87 interchange is even just referred to as 17, such that you might say to take 287 to 17 to get to the Thruway.
I-287 isn't mentioned on this pull through just west of the Tappan Zee Bridge:
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How about the NJ Turnpike's Newark Bay Extension not ever being called I-78? Most New Jersyans think the eastern terminus for I-78 is at I-95. That is why no one ever puts pressure on NJDOT to have I-78 truncated to the end of the Turnpike Extension in Jersey City! Most people think that 12th and 14th Streets in Jersey City are US 1 & 9 instead of I-78 violating interstate guidelines.
Here in New Mexico, US 491, aka US 666, was known as the Devil's highway , not only due to the Biblical number but also due to the high amount of horrendous alcohol related accidents. Our superstitious governor, Bill Richardson had the number changed from 666 to 491. Has it helped?
Quote from: PennDOTFan on March 29, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
I-287 isn't mentioned on this pull through just west of the Tappan Zee Bridge:
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That's weirdest sign that I've ever seen.
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: roadman65 on March 29, 2011, 08:14:39 PM
How about the NJ Turnpike's Newark Bay Extension not ever being called I-78? Most New Jersyans think the eastern terminus for I-78 is at I-95. That is why no one ever puts pressure on NJDOT to have I-78 truncated to the end of the Turnpike Extension in Jersey City! Most people think that 12th and 14th Streets in Jersey City are US 1 & 9 instead of I-78 violating interstate guidelines.
I strongly dispute that. People do call it the Turnpike, but they also call it 78 now. People have stopped referring to it as 1/9, they sorta realize you take 1/9 TO the tunnel but they don't really know what the other road is. ("Covered roadway" is the most popular reference.)
Bryant: These signs are not an unusual sight in New York. I think they're neat. My theory is that they made them that way to reduce wind drag.
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on March 30, 2011, 12:46:30 AM
Bryant: These signs are not an unusual sight in New York. I think they're neat. My theory is that they made them that way to reduce wind drag.
my guess is that it is to save the costs of the raw materials.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 30, 2011, 01:26:29 AM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on March 30, 2011, 12:46:30 AM
Bryant: These signs are not an unusual sight in New York. I think they're neat. My theory is that they made them that way to reduce wind drag.
my guess is that it is to save the costs of the raw materials.
Or both...
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 29, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on March 29, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
US 81 splits off and becomes a much-less important two alne road servicing only smaller towns in Oklahoma.
am I the only one who thinks of US-81 as being a very important highway? I always consider it to be the dividing line between "east" and "west" in the United States, and whenever I cross US-81 I note this fact - as opposed to, say, 83 or 77.
for that reason, I am sad that it no longer exists under I-35 to Laredo.
I guess I'd never really thought about it that way, but it does kind of represent a good east/west dividing line. In Nebraska though, the dividing line is usually thought of as being further west-the 100th Meridian has traditionally been thought of as the E-W dividing line. For a good reference point on I-80, the 100th Meridian runs right through Cozad(NE 21 running into town from I-80 is called Meridian Ave.)
Quote from: The Premier on March 24, 2011, 06:53:41 PM
SR 8 and SR 59 in Akron and Cuyahoga Falls. When SR 59 joins SR 8, the multiplex section is referred only as "Route 8."
Of course, it's helped that until fairly recently, ODOT barely acknowledged that OH 59 shared the route.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 25, 2011, 12:00:39 PM
I-265 and KY 841, the Gene Synder Freeway, referred to as 841.
I generally refer to is simply as I-265, but then again, I'm not local to Louisville.
Quote from: exit322 on March 25, 2011, 12:51:16 PM
I-76/277 and US 224 in the Lodi/Akron area - many locals, 50 years after the I-76 portion became an interstate and pushing 40 years after it became I-76 (it was I-80S), many locals still call it Route 224.
Hmm, I guess I hung out with different people. During my 10 years in Akron, I always heard it referred to as I-76 only. I know I do.
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on March 30, 2011, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 29, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
I always consider it [US 81] to be the dividing line between "east" and "west" in the United States, and whenever I cross US-81 I note this fact - as opposed to, say, 83 or 77.
I guess I'd never really thought about it that way, but it does kind of represent a good east/west dividing line. In Nebraska though, the dividing line is usually thought of as being further west-the 100th Meridian has traditionally been thought of as the E-W dividing line. For a good reference point on I-80, the 100th Meridian runs right through Cozad(NE 21 running into town from I-80 is called Meridian Ave.)
I never heard that before, to me, the east/west dividing line is the Mississippi River. Of course, as I am also a railfan, it is generally true. Even today, the western railroads (BNSF, UP) only make small forays east of the river and the eastern roads (CSX, NS) rarely go west of it.
QuoteUS 50 from MD Eastern Shore to DC is just called "50" even though there is US 301, I-595 and MD 2.
Can't really count I-595 since it's a hidden route, even with the open space for shields on just about every guide sign between the Beltway and Annapolis.
But it's curious to note the lack of US 301 shields on many of the guide signs.
Quote from: froggie on April 01, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
QuoteUS 50 from MD Eastern Shore to DC is just called "50" even though there is US 301, I-595 and MD 2.
Can't really count I-595 since it's a hidden route, even with the open space for shields on just about every guide sign between the Beltway and Annapolis.
But it's curious to note the lack of US 301 shields on many of the guide signs.
Sirius traffic reports often refer to the multiplexed segment as "50/301." That confuses me more than it should (sounds like route 5301), and I don't see what listeners would lose if the reporters just called it 50.
As often as not, I hear WTOP refer to it as just Route 50 or US 50.
I could be wrong about this, but I do believe the CA-44/89 multiplex through Lassen Natl. Park is signed only as CA-44, because CA-89 does not officially travel through the park's boundaries, even though it does exist on paper.
I was there a very long time ago and don't remember ever seeing CA-89 shields.
When US 191 was re-extended into eastern and southern Utah, south of I-70, it absorbed most of US 163, however the US 163 signs were left up there until several years later.
Quote from: Mr_Northside on March 30, 2011, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 30, 2011, 01:26:29 AM
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on March 30, 2011, 12:46:30 AM
Bryant: These signs are not an unusual sight in New York. I think they're neat. My theory is that they made them that way to reduce wind drag.
my guess is that it is to save the costs of the raw materials.
Or both...
Yeah, those are both the primary reasons on why it's done. There is another one of this style on I-95 southbound in Peabody, MA as well.
They could save even more of they just omitted the arrows and made it a standard sign. :P