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Title: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: brad2971 on February 19, 2009, 11:34:41 AM
We all know that fast-food (and Starbucks) has become an inseparable part of our traveling lives. While we all know about the 108-mile section of I-70 between Salina and Green River that is truly service-free, what section of interstate do you think is the longest between fast-food breaks? I have an example, but I want to hear from you folks first.

Hint: My example is a rather underrated section of service-free interstate, especially when you consider what is on this section of service-free interstate. :)
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Alps on February 19, 2009, 11:37:35 AM
Is your section in Alaska?
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: brad2971 on February 19, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
Nope, it's in the Lower 48.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: un1 on February 19, 2009, 11:45:40 AM
There's a section of the I-35 in Iowa that is 40 miles without almost anything.
That is the only Interstate that I can think of. I know many more sections like that on smaller roads.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Sykotyk on February 19, 2009, 11:49:22 AM
I-94 in various sections throughout Montana and North Dakota are pretty sparse.

Especially from Miles City to Billings.

Sykotyk
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Marc on February 19, 2009, 12:17:42 PM
I-55 between the metropolitan areas of Jackson, MS and Memphis, TN is not too heavily traveled and the only cities I can think of that have "service areas" are Grenada and Batesville. Canton, MS (the last bit of Jackson civilization you encounter) and Grenada are probably a good 80 to 90 miles apart. There are exits to small state highways off of I-55 that might have a tiny gas station, but other than Grenada and Batesville, there's really not much at all in terms of a full-fledged town.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: DrZoidberg on February 19, 2009, 12:34:10 PM
I'd say I-80 west of Salt Lake City to the Nevada state line.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: akotchi on February 19, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
There is a section of Florida's Turnpike where two interchanges are separated by 50 or 60 miles (not sure the distance).  Not sure if there is a service plaza in between, though.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: jgb191 on February 19, 2009, 12:55:23 PM
I was expecting more of the responses to be found in the desert southwest.


As soon as it's converted to an interstate, the future I-69 route will be one of the few interstates in Texas with nothing for a sustained distance.  Between Brownsville and Corpus Christi metro areas, there is a 74-mile stretch from Kingsville, TX and Raymondville, TX is strictly nothing but grassland, no gas stations, fast food, services, or signs of human civilization for that matter.

As far as current interstates, I have to point out I-10 for a few stretches, hence why the speed limit is 80 MPH between San Antonio and El Paso.

-- 60 miles between Junction and Sonora.
-- 95 miles from Ozona and Fort Stockton
-- 55 miles west of Fort Stockton.

Those stretches each might maybe one or two gas stations at most, but no fast food or services.

And finally one other spot in South Texas is the 60 miles of I-35 north of Laredo with once again absolutely nothing....not even one to be in sight from the interstate.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: brad2971 on February 19, 2009, 12:57:59 PM
"There is a section of Florida's Turnpike where two interchanges are separated by 50 or 60 miles (not sure the distance).  Not sure if there is a service plaza in between, though."

From MM 152 to MM 242, there's only one exit (Yeehaw Jct). However, there are two full-service plazas. :nod:
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: brad2971 on February 19, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
"I was expecting more of the responses to be found in the desert southwest."

What I have in mind is a location in a state that is somewhat greener than the scrublands of South Texas :wave:
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: DrZoidberg on February 19, 2009, 02:56:02 PM
What about I-75 Alligator Alley?  That seems to be a long stretch w/o any services.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: brad2971 on February 19, 2009, 03:48:12 PM
Not quite that green :sombrero:
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: DrZoidberg on February 19, 2009, 03:56:05 PM
I-90 in western Montana?
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Greybear on February 19, 2009, 04:18:54 PM
How about I-30 between Mt. Pleasant (M/M 162) and New Boston (M/M 199) in Texas. There are only six interchanges in a roughly 40 mile stretch of interstate. Exits 165 and 192 are the only interchanges that have at least one service station.

Another stretch of highway that has little or no services that I'm aware of is I-35/KTA between Exit 76 and Exit 127. In that roughly 50 mile stretch of highway, there is only one interchange, Exit 76, and no services.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Voyager on February 19, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
I-5 in the central valley has many stretches without anything.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: mightyace on February 19, 2009, 04:47:25 PM
The three of Kentucky's parkways that I've traveled (Bluegrass, Natcher, and Breathitt) have little or no services along them.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Duke87 on February 19, 2009, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: akotchi on February 19, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
There is a section of Florida's Turnpike where two interchanges are separated by 50 or 60 miles (not sure the distance).  Not sure if there is a service plaza in between, though.

It's 41 miles (between exit 152 and exit 193). And there is a service plaza in there, at mile 184.

This is definitely the longest distance between interchanges on any highway in the US, and it just might be the longest in the world.

A few other honorable mentions:

- I-80, Nevada Utah (exits 4-41, 37 miles)
- I-70/76, Pennsylvania (exits 110-146, 36 miles)
- I-90, Massachusetts (exits 2-3*, 29 miles)

*would be 11-40 if milepost numbered
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: corco on February 19, 2009, 07:40:14 PM
I-90 between Buffalo and Gillette, Wyo. There are no services between exits 58 and exit 124, and all the interchanges along that stretch are those substandard 90 degree deals that lead to dirt roads
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: roadfro on February 20, 2009, 02:02:43 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on February 19, 2009, 07:09:18 PM
It's 41 miles [on Florida's Turnpike] (between exit 152 and exit 193). And there is a service plaza in there, at mile 184.

This is definitely the longest distance between interchanges on any highway in the US, and it just might be the longest in the world.

Really?  This seems unlikely to me.

Quote from: Duke87 on February 19, 2009, 07:09:18 PM
A few other honorable mentions:
- I-80, Nevada (exits 4-41, 37 miles)

Two things wrong with this, Duke:  First, there is no exit 41 on NV I-80; it goes from exit 40 to exit 43.  I'll assume you meant exits 4-40.  Then the second issue is that there are 21 interchanges in that range, with 13 of them serving the Reno-Sparks metropolitan area.

The greatest distance between interchanges on I-80 in Nevada is 17 miles, between Fernely and the next interchange east.  Now, there definitely aren't services at every exit.  Taking a quick glance at a map and exit list but not having driven the highway myself, I'd estimate there are 40-50 mile stretches between actual towns where there are no services.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Duke87 on February 20, 2009, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 20, 2009, 02:02:43 AM
Two things wrong with this, Duke:  First, there is no exit 41 on NV I-80; it goes from exit 40 to exit 43.  I'll assume you meant exits 4-40. 

Actually, I meant Utah, not Nevada.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: SSOWorld on February 21, 2009, 08:57:56 AM
I-5 in the Central Valley of California
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: brad2971 on February 21, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! Here was the "service-free" section of interstate I was thinking of:

Let's say you're heading back east after a decent vacation in the Black Hills of South Dakota. You stayed at one of the motels off I-90 Exit 61 on the east side of Rapid City. After filling up, you headed into the McDonalds for breakfast (or the Arbys for lunch, if you checked out a little late ;-)) before heading east. Your next fast-food break won't come until Exit 260 @ the Missouri River, a 200-mile trek.

Even if it weren't for the omnipresence of the world famous Wall Drug @Exit 109 :wow:, it is highly unlikely any McDonalds/BK/Wendys/TacoBell franchisee will put up a store along that stretch of road. On that stretch, even though there are at least a dozen Mom-and-Pop gas stations and a few cafes, there isn't a town that has more than 800 people in it.

Think of it this way: Even Ozona and Sonora on I-10 in West Texas have Sonic Drive-Ins. Even Gila Bend on I-8 (before turning off onto SR 85 toward Phoenix) has a McDonalds and a Taco Bell right at Exit 115. Not to mention that quite a few exits on I-5 in the Central Valley (Buttonwillow, Lost Hills, Coalinga) have full services. :nod:
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: lamsalfl on February 22, 2009, 04:05:26 AM
I-49 in LA has some vast stretches.  And I-59 in MS?  Shoot me.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Anthony_JK on February 22, 2009, 02:08:01 PM
I'm guessing that Louisiana's philosophy about rest areas is basically that since most folk will be using private gas stations and truck stops to rest and relieve themselves, they don't see the need for rest areas as much.

That might explain why they didn't open that many on I-49.

The Thistlewaite rest area between Opelousas and Bunkie, though, is pretty nice...especially for the view of the Coteau Ridge and Dubisson Lake.


Anthony
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: SSOWorld on February 23, 2009, 02:38:43 PM
Seems like a risk to rely on them, since I'm sure many people do stop in, use the restroom, and walk out without buying anything - something store managers may frown upon.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: larryao on March 20, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
I think  I-40 between Barstow and Needles is a long strech. about 140 miles of just desert with one rest stop each way :pan:
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: Revive 755 on March 20, 2009, 02:09:32 PM
QuoteI'm guessing that Louisiana's philosophy about rest areas is basically that since most folk will be using private gas stations and truck stops to rest and relieve themselves, they don't see the need for rest areas as much.

Same philosophy Missouri is using now.  Whenever I-44 gets rebuilt, there will be a 100+ mile gap in rest areas (St. Clair or somewhere near Eureka to Conway).  Which I don't like because there are some days I just want a bathroom, not to buy another cup of coffee or a candy bar, and I don't think many gas stations offer weather info - not that Missouri does that in rest areas currently, but that is something they should add.

I think I-44 might have a decent gap in fast food joints, from the Fort Leonard Wood spur (Exit 161) to the westernmost Rolla exit (184), but I think I-29 or I-35 will have greater gaps.

Illinois has some decent gaps in fast-food services.  I don't believe I-57 has any south of IL 13 (Exit 54), and I don't think it has any in Missouri.  I-24 only has fast food at IL 146 (Exit 16) and US 45 (Exit 37).  I-64 appear to go from IL 15 (mile 70 something in Mt. Vernon to IL 1 (Exit 130, only a Subway there).
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: mightyace on March 20, 2009, 02:24:45 PM
QuoteIllinois has some decent gaps in fast-food services.  I don't believe I-57 has any south of IL 13 (Exit 54), and I don't think it has any in Missouri.  I-24 only has fast food at IL 146 (Exit 16) and US 45 (Exit 37).  I-64 appear to go from IL 15 (mile 70 something in Mt. Vernon to IL 1 (Exit 130, only a Subway there).

Having been on I-57 and I-24 to/from Chicago and Nashville, I know you are correct.  (I just didn't remember the specifics.)  IIRC There's not a lot on I-24 in Kentucky between Paducah and Hopkinsville/Ft. Campbell either.
Title: Re: Service-Free Sections of Interstate
Post by: cjk374 on April 19, 2009, 10:06:08 PM
Louisiana has closed all rest areas on I-20 permanently except for the welcome centers at the state lines, and a pair near MP 95 in Lincoln Parish.  That would be almost the half-way point across the state.