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Title: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Interstate Trav on April 27, 2011, 01:07:47 AM
There is a thread about the longest distance on a mileage sign, what about the shortest. 

There is one on I-210 Westbound  with pasadena as the control city, and it's only 9 miles.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Scott5114 on April 27, 2011, 03:55:53 AM
I-35 NB in Norman, OK has one that lists Moore – 7, Okla. City – 17. I'm not sure where they get 7 miles for Moore because 7 miles from the sign you're very nearly out of Moore, but that's what it says.

If we're including conventional highways, the first mileage sign on SB OK-24 lists "Washington – 1".
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: US71 on April 27, 2011, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 27, 2011, 03:55:53 AM
I-35 NB in Norman, OK has one that lists Moore – 7, Okla. City – 17. I'm not sure where they get 7 miles for Moore because 7 miles from the sign you're very nearly out of Moore, but that's what it says.

If we're including conventional highways, the first mileage sign on SB OK-24 lists "Washington – 1".

I've seen a 1/2 , but don't remember where

7 Miles to Moore is probably to downtown Moore.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 27, 2011, 10:28:31 AM
I have seen 1910s guide signs that list in increments of 10ths, including 1/10th.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Alps on April 27, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
I can beat all of that. The old AAA signs in NJ would sometimes list distances of 0.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: ftballfan on April 27, 2011, 09:21:52 PM
Ludington - 4 miles - WB US-10 just west of the US-31 freeway
Manistee - 5 miles - SB US-31 just south of M-22
Traverse City - 6 miles - NB US-31 just north of M-37 (south)
Onekama - 7 miles - NB M-22 just north of US-31
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: AZDude on April 27, 2011, 09:42:43 PM
Golden Valley -1 Mile on West AZ 68 about a mile past the US 93 interchange.  Although it says 1 mile, the welcome to Golden Valley sign is posted about 1/10 of a mile after the mileage sign.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 27, 2011, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on April 27, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
I can beat all of that. The old AAA signs in NJ would sometimes list distances of 0.

you win the internets.  yep, I've seen a few 0 signs; just failed to remember them.

I'm trying to think if anything has a negative distance... I can imagine Mexico or something signing a U-turn and a distance to a city that one has already passed.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: 1995hoo on May 10, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
In Virginia it's fairly common to see a mileage sign where the top line contains no distance at all, merely a vertical arrow pointing up to indicate that the named destination is a short distance ahead.

Here's an example on US-50 westbound just west of the roundabout at Gilbert's Corner. Aldie is about half a mile to the west of this sign:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=38.970345,-77.625929&spn=0.006214,0.016512&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.970433,-77.626157&panoid=dCQmlZHF_s1pW7oCwIu8WQ&cbp=12,331.11,,0,5.67
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Interstate Trav on May 10, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 27, 2011, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on April 27, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
I can beat all of that. The old AAA signs in NJ would sometimes list distances of 0.

you win the internets.  yep, I've seen a few 0 signs; just failed to remember them.

I'm trying to think if anything has a negative distance... I can imagine Mexico or something signing a U-turn and a distance to a city that one has already passed.

What about "you just passed the city"
that actually would be kinda funny.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 10, 2011, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: Interstate Trav on May 10, 2011, 06:29:44 PM

What about "you just passed the city"
that actually would be kinda funny.

only on advertisements.  "you just missed the tourist trap! turn around!"

there is one on US-101 south in San Benito county which says "[name of place escapes me], just 23000 miles ahead.  Or 16 behind.  turn around!"
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: formulanone on May 12, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: Interstate Trav on May 10, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
What about "you just passed the city"
that actually would be kinda funny.
I saw quite a few of those in Europe in the late 90's, it was basically the town or village name in white, on a blue background, with a single red diagonal slash through the name. It signified you'd left, obviously. Although, this isn't quite the same thing.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: english si on May 13, 2011, 05:02:43 AM
Those signs are basically telling you that various restrictions (speed limit, perhaps the hours you can use the horn, etc) that come with urban areas have ended, though you do get one village name with a line through it on the same poles as the sign welcoming you to the next village.

Note - we don't have them in the UK nor Ireland
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Mapmikey on May 13, 2011, 06:32:22 AM
Virginia has at least one example of a fractional distance for sure:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fva-ends%2Fbannered%2Fbus058meadows_et_04.jpg&hash=29a4909bae8c4212f08a9f2d78089af1fa0e2cdd)

There is another apparent example on SR 606 west of I-64/81.  The sign says Raphine .1, then very shortly after is the Raphine placename sign.  I couldn't tell driving by whether the decimal was intentionally put there by VDOT, a local, or it was a random smudge/nick/deformity located in a fortuitous location on the sign.

Street view doesn't get close enough to the sign to see clearly...I'll have to check the picture I actually took...

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: elsmere241 on May 13, 2011, 08:44:40 AM
On I-295 south in Delaware (just after the ramps to I-95 and I-495 north, but before the split to I-95 south/DE 141 north) there is a sign that says:

Newport 1/2
Newark 10
Baltimore 65

It's much more than a half mile to the Newport exit from that sign - more like a mile and a half.  There used to be a similar sign nearby on I-95 south (it may still be there) that gave the same distances, except it was one mile to Newport.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Landshark on May 14, 2011, 11:16:58 PM
NB I-5 in Olympia on the Boulevard Road overpass has:


Lacey 1 1/2
Tacoma 28
Seattle 58
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Scott5114 on May 15, 2011, 09:34:08 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 12, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: Interstate Trav on May 10, 2011, 06:29:44 PM
What about "you just passed the city"
that actually would be kinda funny.
I saw quite a few of those in Europe in the late 90's, it was basically the town or village name in white, on a blue background, with a single red diagonal slash through the name. It signified you'd left, obviously. Although, this isn't quite the same thing.

In some parts of Texas a "city limit" sign identical to the one you'd see going into the city is posted when you're leaving it. I know I've seen this in Gainesville.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Kniwt on May 22, 2011, 01:21:36 AM
I-80 eastbound at California exit 148A:

Baxter 1/2
Truckee 39
Reno 73

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&q=baxter,+ca&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Baxter,+California&gl=us&ll=39.208648,-120.787125&spn=0.049347,0.085144&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.209013,-120.786498&panoid=6AOfxUu8U8t1K7_BDN5n5w&cbp=12,45.82,,0,7.44
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 15, 2011, 09:34:08 AM
In some parts of Texas a "city limit" sign identical to the one you'd see going into the city is posted when you're leaving it. I know I've seen this in Gainesville.

this is very common in Texas - and I've seen it about 3-4 times in Ohio as well.  the signs were, in one case, a white sign with black legend, and the other times a very faded green sign with white legend - so it may be a standard which was abolished about 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: sp_redelectric on June 05, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
In S.W. Portland, Or there is a sign on Barbur Boulevard (Oregon 99W) that has the distance to Tigard at one mile, at the intersection with Capitol Highway and Taylors Ferry Road (which is also an overpass over I-5).

Problem is, you haven't even touched Tigard city limits at one mile...you have to go 1.4 miles to city limits, and then another 1.3 miles until you get to Main Street to access downtown.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on June 27, 2011, 08:34:23 PM
I've seen a 0 or two in central NC, but I can't recall where.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: eagle14410 on March 21, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
Do you want a picture of that Lacey 1 1/2 sign? I'll be there this weekend?
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Bickendan on March 21, 2012, 04:23:37 AM
Kansas City has a mileage sign with 1/8 mile on the I-35/I-70/US24/US40 side of the Kansas City Loop.
http://g.co/maps/temtj

http://g.co/maps/x9df7 -- yes, that is a Yield sign at the end of the onramp from Delaware St.
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: bassoon1986 on March 21, 2012, 03:14:11 PM
 
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 15, 2011, 09:34:08 AM
In some parts of Texas a "city limit" sign identical to the one you'd see going into the city is posted when you're leaving it. I know I've seen this in Gainesville.

this is very common in Texas - and I've seen it about 3-4 times in Ohio as well.  the signs were, in one case, a white sign with black legend, and the other times a very faded green sign with white legend - so it may be a standard which was abolished about 30 years ago.

Most of these have been changed now in TX  :-(   Many times now it's simply another XXXX - City Limits on both ends rather than the "Leaving XXXX"
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: kphoger on March 21, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on March 21, 2012, 04:23:37 AM
Kansas City has a mileage sign with 1/8 mile on the I-35/I-70/US24/US40 side of the Kansas City Loop.
http://g.co/maps/temtj

http://g.co/maps/x9df7 -- yes, that is a Yield sign at the end of the onramp from Delaware St.

I realize that the road in question is just across the state line in Missouri, but putting a Yield sign at the end of an on-ramp seems to be the standard in Kansas.  It doesn't mean there's insufficient merge space.  So it was a little strange for me to read, 'Yes, that is a Yield sign...'.  I was thinking, 'Well, yeah, of course.'

EDIT:  After a cursory GMSV search, it appears it's not as 'standard' as I thought.  Well, the on-ramps I use every day here in the Wichita area have them, and there's plenty of space.....  Whatever.  :spin:
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Bickendan on March 21, 2012, 11:45:29 PM
Heh, that yield sign is there because there is no merge space at all; what merge space there is is the offramp to US 169!
Title: Re: Shortest Distance on a Mileage Sign.
Post by: Scott5114 on March 22, 2012, 01:05:27 AM
FWIW, the yield sign after the onramp is quite standard in Oklahoma, regardless of the situation.