I was curious if there are any other state highways that are suffixed. I realize that a lot of states in the east have suffixed US routes, but not state highways, at least from what the atlas I have shows.
Oregon 99E and 99W are state highways that are suffixed (though they once were US 99 suffixes). Another interesting thing is that the cancelled I-305 in Salem is Business OR-99E (probably the only business suffixed route I've seen)
Oregon also has OR 42S near Coos Bay, but absent is 42N...just plain ole 42.
Anywhere else that suffixes state highways?
Probably the most famous is Florida A1A.
QuoteProbably the most famous is Florida A1A.
I think I remember reading that this is designated as such because Florida uses a grid system, and it's the highway that's furthest east. Is that correct?
Fixed your quote coding -DTP
Something like that.
Here's a few from New York State. First, NY 17C runs parallel to NY 17/Future I-86 from Binghamton to at least Waverly. (It's probably the original NY 17 alignment.)
Plus, NY 9A the West Side Highway (former West Side Elevated) and Henry Hudson Pkwy. Runs through Manhattan to Peekskill, NY.
It also looks like there's a NY 7A that is duplexed with US 11 from the PA line to Binghamton.
Also, on the Wikipedia page for NY 9A it lists it as intersecting NY 100B and NY 100C.
Oklahoma has a whole system of them. Short spur routes from a main route get lettered suffixes. OK 74 has the most–there is an OK 74A, 74B, 74C, 74D, 74E, and 74F. At one time there was a G too.
US 77 probably has the weirdest set–OK 77C, 77D, 77H, and 77S!
The "S" in Oregon 42S stands for Spur if I'm not badly mistaken- Oregon signs its spur routes with an "S" suffix but 42S is the only spur they sign. There's also an implied 86S as well as some others
Missouri has one or two left from a formerly much larger system with MOs 64A and B
Georgia, I can't think of any here.
Be well,
Bryant
Florida uses them besides A1A, there is Florida 15A around DeLand, Florida 50A at Brooksville, and Florida 9A around Jacksonville, of those that are actually signed. Many are now county signs and some are unsigned (Florida 8A for I-110, Florida 10A on U.S. 90 in Pensacola).
Also in Florida there is signed Florida 24A and Florida 26A, both located in Gainesville.
Arkansas uses suffixes in its state system as well.
I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Are there other "directional" suffixed state highways? N,S,E,W that are split alignments of one highway?
Illinois does not on their official highway system. They have a few highways that are marked with internal numbers, one that I have found has a suffix. IL 136A, or U.S. 136A
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/bill16/spurus136a.html (http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/bill16/spurus136a.html)
New York gets weird with their lettering on a couple routes. NY 17 has spur routes 17A, 17B, 17C, 17K, and 17M. Seems odd, though most of the missing letters in there are decommissioned routes (D, E, F, G, H, and J).
And then you have the larger and weirder set: 9A, 9B, 9D, 9G, 9H, 9J, 9L, 9N, 9P, 9R, and 9W. Again, many of the missing letters up through N are former routes tat have been renumbered or decommissioned. The full set, past and present, is 9A, 9B, 9C, 9D, 9E, 9F, 9G, 9H, 9J, 9K, 9L, 9M, 9N, 9P, 9R, 9W, 9X. O presumably wasn't used due to the potential to confuse it with a 0 and I due to potential confusion with 1.
The weird part is that all of these state routes are actually spurs off of US route 9 (except 9W, which is also a US route).
New Jersey has an interesting tendency to number routes as spurs Interstate or US style- e.g., NJ 124 is a spur of (actually, the former routing of) NJ 24. It does not, however, have any letter suffixed routes unless you count the unsigned NJ 76C, a short spur off I-76.
Connecticut has historically had many letter suffixed routes although only six remain: US 1A, CT 2A, CT 14A, CT 17A, CT 71A, and CT 182A.
I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of suffixed routes, aside from the occasional East/West/North/South. They just don't sit right with me for some odd reason.
There are actually a couple other "S" spur routes in Oregon that I don't believe are signed, as they're part of "post-2002" routes, which ODOT has been lazy in signing. I believe OR-104 has a Spur up around Fort Stevens State Park, and OR-422 in Chiloquin also has one. I'd generally prefer to just see those either removed or given separate numbers. 42S needs a new number, I think.
-Alex (Tarkus)
Quote from: DrZoidberg on February 25, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Are there other "directional" suffixed state highways? N,S,E,W that are split alignments of one highway?
Outside of the U.S. highways, I don't believe that there are many, if any.
California doesn't have many suffixed routes, but three I can think of offhand are 14U, 86S, and 156U.
86S is a "spur" route, the future expressway alignment of 86S. This route is actually signed as 86S in the field.
14U and 156U are superseded state highways that the state has yet to give to the local agencies (i.e. "unrelinquished").
The only example I can think of in Mississippi isn't so much a split route as a spur, but it has the direction: 9W. It intersects Miss. 9 only once.
At least one other route did that in the past, Miss. 13W (present Miss. 35 south of U.S. 98). Miss. 45W (now Alt. U.S. 45 or U.S. 45A, depending on signage) was a close example of what you are looking for, since it did intersect U.S. 45 twice, but 45 wasn't (isn't) Miss. 45E.
New York has so many, including 6N, which I grew up near. There used to be even more.
The only directional split highway in Oklahoma is OK-3, which bifurcates into 3E and 3W between Shawnee and Ada.
Other than 86S and the 35E and W, I've never heard of any other ones.
Quote from: DrZoidberg on February 25, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Are there other "directional" suffixed state highways? N,S,E,W that are split alignments of one highway?
Arkansas has a 58E (which used to be US 62/63) but no 58W. AR 1 used to split into 1E and 1W at Paragould. There is also an unsigned AR 23W in Madison County, but no 23E.
Quote from: voyager on February 28, 2009, 03:47:23 PM
Other than 86S and the 35E and W, I've never heard of any other ones.
California had I-15E for about 8-9 years (after I-15 was originally routed on former Route 31 and Route 71 through Ontario and Corona) on what is now I-215; this was originally retained after suffixed spur routes like I-80S and such were renumbrered in 1980, as it (like the I-35 splits) did return to its parent.
Suffixed routes only happened several times previously in California, notably US 99E and 99W twice in the Central Valley, and US 101E and US 101W in the Bay Area.
Quote from: Duke87 on February 26, 2009, 12:39:33 AM
New Jersey has an interesting tendency to number routes as spurs Interstate or US style- e.g., NJ 124 is a spur of (actually, the former routing of) NJ 24. It does not, however, have any letter suffixed routes unless you count the unsigned NJ 76C, a short spur off I-76.
NJ
had more prefixed and suffixed routes than you could ever remember. Until 1953, there were S- prefixed routes (spurs), and -A and -B suffixed routes, sometimes both (S-4-D was one, for example). The renumbering in 1953 eliminated all of these. There were also 5N, 6N, and 8N, holdovers from the original 1920's numbering system (5, 6, 8) that were not yet renumbered.
There are no signed suffixed routes in Pennsylvania outside of US 6N which is technically SR 3006. PennDOT does catalog some local roads with suffixes in their county route logs.
Maryland has a large number of suffixed routes, but most of them are very minor - generally fragments of former segments of state highways, or short connections to places along the road. As far as I know, only one such route is actually signed with its letter (835A, if I remember correctly). In all the other cases where a suffixed route is signed, the letter is omitted. For example, all the versions of MD 144 have different suffixes, but are all signed as MD 144.
FL hates suffixed state routes :D and only signs them when needed with the highest being SR 30E. There were quite a few "planned" ones that got up into the Gs, Hs, and Js (I believe.....will have to check the Bay County maps again). County roads are a different story as there are plenty of those, the highest being Dixie County 351U and Citrus County 44W (to not confuse with SR 44 in Crystal River).
I forgot to mention...OK-9 has three lettered spur routes. They are, in order: OK-9A, 9A, and 9A.
Huh?
whaa? :-/ 3 routes with the same suffix?
New York, as mentioned earlier, uses suffixed routes. US 9W is directional because it's
west of the Hudson River. Many suffixes use the letter A (I'd assume it's for "Alternate"). Some examples are NY 104A, NY 41A, NY 11A (from US 11), NY 38A, NY 15A and NY 96A. Other letters are used, such as NY 34B. The most suffixed routes I'm aware of are US 9 (thanks to an earlier post), and NY 31. The following is a list of suffixed routes of NY 31:
Former:
- NY 31B
- NY 31C (replaced by NY 317)
- NY 31D
Current:
Source: New York Routes (http://www.gribblenation.net/nyroutes/ind/030_039.htm#031)
Arkansas has used several different suffixes. A (Alternate) (historical), B (Business), C (City) (historical), E (East), S (Spur), T (Truck), W (West), and the enigmatic Y. The Y routes comprise of the third leg of a "Y" intersection. Some are regular spur routes, while some are exit ramps or the third leg of an Oklahoma Y. Most of the Y routes are either unsigned or they are signed as one of the routes they connect to in one direction, and the other route in the opposite direction. An example is AR 88Y in Mena. It connects US 59/71 to AR 88 which meet in an Oklahoma Y, and is signed as US 59/71 NB and AR 88 SB. Occasionally, one of these Y routes accidentally gets signed:
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You sure eased a little of my confusion about AR's signage. :clap: I saw, in Stuttgart, a US79C designation (I think, it's been a few years). I do remember doing a double-take when I saw it. As far as I know, LA doesn't suffix ANY routes. We only have 1 alternate state route (LA 2), and all other business/spur routes have banners above the shields.
Tennessee has like three suffixed state highway.
22A
69A
I think 220A and maybe one other one. TN does have a fondness for suffixed US highways.
US 11E
US 11W
US 19E
US 19W
US 25E
US 25W
US 31A
US 31E
US 31W
US 41A
US 70A
US 70N
US 70S
Quote from: Michael on April 06, 2009, 03:02:41 PM
New York, as mentioned earlier, uses suffixed routes. US 9W is directional because it's west of the Hudson River. Many suffixes use the letter A (I'd assume it's for "Alternate"). Some examples are NY 104A, NY 41A, NY 11A (from US 11), NY 38A, NY 15A and NY 96A. Other letters are used, such as NY 34B. The most suffixed routes I'm aware of are US 9 (thanks to an earlier post), and NY 31....
While A = Alternate makes a lot of sense, I think it's equally likely that it's just coincidence, and A was chosen simply because it's the first letter of the alphabet. Then the next route gets B, the next gets C, etc. (Unlike Arkansas, where the letters do have a clearer meaning.)
Also, you missed 17, which had lots of former routes, and current routes lettered A, B, C, K, and M.
Nebraska used to have many at one time, but the only one still standing is N-25A, which connects US 6 in Palisade with N-25 north of town. I'm not sure why this isn't a connecting link, which is Nebraska's own system of highways with suffixes.
Quote from: DandyDan on June 12, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
Nebraska used to have many at one time, but the only one still standing is N-25A, which connects US 6 in Palisade with N-25 north of town. I'm not sure why this isn't a connecting link, which is Nebraska's own system of highways with suffixes.
Which isn't really so much suffixes as a different way to mark routes, lettered A through Z. The number just stands for the county in which the link or spur exists.
Since this thread has already been raised from the dead, I'll join in.
Do the CONN routes in Michigan count? Connectors M-13 and M-44. It's more like a prefix than a suffix, or like a business route. They're a couple leftovers from when freeways were built.
Quote from: GaryV on June 12, 2015, 04:59:43 PM
Since this thread has already been raised from the dead, I'll join in.
Do the CONN routes in Michigan count? Connectors M-13 and M-44. It's more like a prefix than a suffix, or like a business route. They're a couple leftovers from when freeways were built.
Nope, that's a bannered route. Georgia has them too, I believe.
A whole batch of people have mentioned New York, which has a ton of them. Connecticut was also already mentioned, so I'll say Massachusetts, which has a few, such as MA 2A and MA 6A.
MA/NH 3A, MA/NH 1A, NH 111A, among others.
Edit: spelling fix, and Maine doesn't have a 1A that is a state route, but there are multiple US 1A segments within Maine.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on June 12, 2015, 12:49:29 PM
Tennessee has like three suffixed state highway.
22A
69A
I think 220A and maybe one other one. TN does have a fondness for suffixed US highways.
US 11E
US 11W
US 19E
US 19W
US 25E
US 25W
US 31A
US 31E
US 31W
US 41A
US 70A
US 70N
US 70S
What Tennessee suffixes, Kentucky banners (at least for xxA routes). US 41A becomes Alternate US 41 at the Kentucky state line.
Virginia has its Y routes, which are short spurs of existing routes, mostly used at triangle intersections.
Quote from: Takumi on June 12, 2015, 10:15:53 PM
Virginia has its Y routes, which are short spurs of existing routes, mostly used at triangle intersections.
Virginia once had VA 37E and VA 37W briefly in the early 1930s north out of Warsaw. 37E became part of VA 3 while 37W became part of VA 202 (now secondary).
Mike
Some of the Texas park roads have suffixes. All roads in state parks are maintained by TxDOT, but some of them are designated state highways, as Park Road X. I believe park roads are a subcategory of the loop/spur system, which is a division of the State Highway system (I mean "State Highway" system as opposed to US Highway or Interstate Highway or Farm to Market Road systems). Each system and subsystem has its own set of numbers. Some of the park roads have branches, as needed to cover the park, and some of them are suffixed. "A" is the only suffix that I know of being used. They are shown on the statewide planning map, and are referred to in minute orders, but are not listed in the designation files.
Business routes, all of which are state highways regardless of the parent route's system, are technically suffixed, in alphabetical order, so that each "Business US X" is unique (as Business US XA). I think the signs are supposed to have the letter in small print below the number, but that frequently isn't done. I don't know if this meets the intent of the topic, but it's a possibility.
Arizona:
AZ 89a (formally US 89A) AZ89 @ Prescott to Business I-40/Historical US66 @ Flagstaff
AZ 89a does not return to parent
Unsigned/possibly decertified AZ 95b Parker Strip
AZ 95s Parker Dam road
AZ 95s Cattail Cove Road
AZ 95s (Signed as AZ 95truck) Parker (To CA 62)
AZ 180a The southern terminus of the highway is located at a junction with SR 61 near the community of Concho. It heads northerly from this intersection to its northern terminus at a junction with US 180 northwest of St. Johns
AZ 180a does dot return to parent.
Hawaii has on Maui 32A, 32B, and 36A. All are short spur routes to harbor and airport facilities.
I'm pretty sure Georgia doesn't currently have any of these, but it used to.
Current GA 85 Alt through Warm Springs used to be GA 85W, while current 85 through Manchester was 85E. This was changed sometime around 1996.
Current GA 3 (also US 41) from midtown Atlanta up through Marietta used to be GA 3E. The other branch (Marietta Blvd/Atlanta Rd) was not GA 3W, however; it was just plain 3. Around 1986, 3E was renumbered to 3; the old 3 shows up on GDOT maps as GA 755 (which probably wouldn't have been signed) before being fully decommissioned around 1990.
New Hampshire (from memory, incomplete list):
1A (continues into MA)
1B (not to be confused with 1 Bypass)
3A (continues into MA)
3A (there are two)
4A (not 100% sure, may be Vermont instead)
11A
12A
16A
16B
25A (not 100% sure)
28A
101A
107A (reaches MA border but does not continue)
111A
111A
111A (yes, there are three)
114A (not 100% sure)
121A (reaches MA border)
175A (not 100% sure)
202A
Quote from: mapman1071 on June 13, 2015, 03:16:28 AM
Arizona:
AZ 89a (formally US 89A) AZ89 @ Prescott to Business I-40/Historical US66 @ Flagstaff
AZ 89a does not return to parent
Unsigned/possibly decertified AZ 95b Parker Strip
AZ 95s Parker Dam road
AZ 95s Cattail Cove Road
AZ 95s (Signed as AZ 95truck) Parker (To CA 62)
AZ 180a The southern terminus of the highway is located at a junction with SR 61 near the community of Concho. It heads northerly from this intersection to its northern terminus at a junction with US 180 northwest of St. Johns
AZ 180a does dot return to parent.
I'd argue the Ss are just spurs, since they are sometimes signed as spur, but if we're counting them then:
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Though 266 Spur is just signed as "spur"
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corcohighways.org%2Fhighways%2Faz%2F266spur%2F266toend%2F1.jpg&hash=36bfbe31f37b63dbc7b23b276d01f795d2407708)
Quote from: bugo on February 28, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: DrZoidberg on February 25, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Are there other "directional" suffixed state highways? N,S,E,W that are split alignments of one highway?
Arkansas has a 58E (which used to be US 62/63) but no 58W. AR 1 used to split into 1E and 1W at Paragould. There is also an unsigned AR 23W in Madison County, but no 23E.
And now 23W is signed:
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Quote from: bugo on June 14, 2015, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: bugo on February 28, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: DrZoidberg on February 25, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Are there other "directional" suffixed state highways? N,S,E,W that are split alignments of one highway?
Arkansas has a 58E (which used to be US 62/63) but no 58W. AR 1 used to split into 1E and 1W at Paragould. There is also an unsigned AR 23W in Madison County, but no 23E.
And now 23W is signed:
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That being located in Madison County makes that wrong on so many levels, as Huntsville, Alabama is the seat of Madison County, Alabama.
Quote from: tidecat on June 14, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: bugo on June 14, 2015, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: bugo on February 28, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: DrZoidberg on February 25, 2009, 11:46:23 PM
I guess I should've been a bit more specific. Are there other "directional" suffixed state highways? N,S,E,W that are split alignments of one highway?
Arkansas has a 58E (which used to be US 62/63) but no 58W. AR 1 used to split into 1E and 1W at Paragould. There is also an unsigned AR 23W in Madison County, but no 23E.
And now 23W is signed:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi167.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu126%2Fbugo348%2F11539237_1593810724240901_546790345051640265_o_zps2ytcu9xa.jpg&hash=6165dd32712834c0ea201a41d01d493fb825ef9c)
That being located in Madison County makes that wrong on so many levels, as Huntsville, Alabama is the seat of Madison County, Alabama.
Make that Alabam! They forgot the 'a' in 'Alabama' (last a).
Not sure who's being facetious here and who's not. But Huntsville, Arkansas is also the county seat of Madison County, Arkansas. And Madison County, Arkansas is also home to a small town named Alabam, spelled correctly.
As previously mentioned, New York has a large amount of suffixes. A couple things of note:
*N, S, and W are sometimes (if not always) directional suffixes (i.e. NY 5S, NY 28N, US 9W)
*Most are loops from their parent, but a few spurs do exist
*NY 17K does not have either terminus at NY 17, but its WT is at Old NY 17.
*They tend to be more common east of I-81. Western New York only has a few, with NY 31 the only route with suffixed routes in any significant number.
*US 9 has the most children (10 current), followed by NY 12 and NY 17 (both 5). US 9 once had 7 more, while NY 17 had 6 more.
Quote from: cl94 on June 15, 2015, 07:42:24 PM*N, S, and W are sometimes (if not always) directional suffixes (i.e. NY 5S, NY 28N, US 9W)
31E and 9N are both exceptions. But whenever directional letters are used nonconsecutively, yes.
Quote from: Kacie Jane on June 15, 2015, 07:49:05 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 15, 2015, 07:42:24 PM*N, S, and W are sometimes (if not always) directional suffixes (i.e. NY 5S, NY 28N, US 9W)
31E and 9N are both exceptions. But whenever directional letters are used nonconsecutively, yes.
Those were the main exceptions I was referring to (and why I did not say "E", as no
current use of the letter is directional)
Nevada does not have any suffixed routes.
However, several existed prior to the 1976 renumbering. There were a lot of ##A routes, although some B and C suffixed also existed as well. Most of the time, these were branch routes, but some could be quite long anyway (SR 8A ended up being probably three times as long, or more, than SR 8, and existed in two or three segments).