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Title: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: BigMattFromTexas on July 22, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
I've wondered for a while, which states build state loops like we do in Texas? [by we I mean TxDOT. :sombrero: ]
Here TxDOT builds any somewhat bypassing road, and labels it as a loop. What other states do this? Texas, being Texas, usually builds loops in growing towns with the ROW of being upgraded to a freeway (super 2). Any other states do this to a large extent? I know Arizona has state loops, but I haven't noticed this in many other states.
BigMatt
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: Rick1962 on July 22, 2011, 06:56:26 PM
Oklahoma has one loop labeled as such: Loop 56 in Okmulgee, which runs around the northeast side of the city from US 75 to US 62, providing state highway access to OSU-Okmulgee.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: NE2 on July 22, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
Numbering-wise, Nebraska has links and spurs, corresponding to Texas's loops and spurs (many Texas loops are not actual loops but short connecting links).
Functionally, Kentucky seems big on at-grade loops.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: corco on July 22, 2011, 08:25:01 PM
Washington has one "Loop"- SR 100 near Cape Discovery, but that's it.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2F100%2F100to100SPUR%2F1.JPG&hash=03acf08e0bd45c8e9f0715c84c4a6db696115f98)

Wyoming 212, 258, and 376 would likely be labelled as loops if they were in the Texas system.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: Brandon on July 22, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
Illinois isn't really big on loops, just bypasses.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: huskeroadgeek on July 23, 2011, 03:32:08 AM
Quote from: NE2 on July 22, 2011, 07:04:32 PM
Numbering-wise, Nebraska has links and spurs, corresponding to Texas's loops and spurs (many Texas loops are not actual loops but short connecting links).
Sort of, although I'd characterize most of Nebraska's connecting links as different from Texas's Loops. Most of Nebraska's connecting links serve to connect I-80 with towns on highways that run parallel to the interstate. A good number of the rest of them are very short connectors that are basically cutoffs at other state highway junctions. I don't think any of those are actually signed as connecting links. There are also some that are former alignments of other highways(such as Links 55W and 55X that are former alignments of US 77). Nebraska doesn't have any of the Texas-style loops that are full 360 beltways(or even partial beltways) around cities. In fact, I don't know any other state that designates state highways that are full 360 beltways.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: NE2 on July 23, 2011, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on July 23, 2011, 03:32:08 AM
In fact, I don't know any other state that designates state highways that are full 360 beltways.
Kentucky does (KY 4 in particular, but I think there are other fulls and certainly some partials). So does Alabama (SR 210 around Dothan and some partials).

I forgot about Georgia - it has loops and spurs, as well as connectors. SR 10 Loop is a full beltway around Athens, for example. Unlike in Texas, the numbers come from nearby state highways (SR 10 passes through Athens).
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: mapman1071 on July 24, 2011, 04:17:27 AM
Arizona Loop Freeways

AZ Loop 101    Jct I-10 Tolleson To Jct Loop 202 Chandler
Agua Fria, Pima, Price Freeway's

AZ Loop 202  Jct I-10/AZ 51 Phoenix To 40th Street/Pecos Rd Phoenix (Planed to JCT I-10  Phoenix)
Red Mountain, San Tan Freeway's, South Mountain Freeway/Parkway/Blvd

AZ Loop 202 Spur (Unsigned) Priest Drive/AZ Loop 202 Tempe to I-10 Phoenix
Sky Harbor Blvd

AZ Loop 303 Goodyear, Glendale, Wadell, Surprise, Peoria, Phoenix
Estrella Roadway, Estrella Freeway, Bob Stump Memorial Parkway 

Non Freeway Loop

AZ 89L (Decertified) Business Loop Of US89 In Page, AZ
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: Eth on July 24, 2011, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: NE2 on July 23, 2011, 03:38:10 AMI forgot about Georgia - it has loops and spurs, as well as connectors. SR 10 Loop is a full beltway around Athens, for example. Unlike in Texas, the numbers come from nearby state highways (SR 10 passes through Athens).

If I'm not mistaken, I believe 10 Loop is actually the only surviving example in Georgia.  There used to be others, but they've since been renumbered (120 Loop) or decommissioned (407 Loop).  There are, of course, still plenty of spurs and connectors, though.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: Duke87 on July 24, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
New York's Loop Parkway is not a loop or even part of one. It's a spur. Go figure that out.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: Mapmikey on July 24, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Eth on July 24, 2011, 10:17:57 AM
If I'm not mistaken, I believe 10 Loop is actually the only surviving example in Georgia.  There used to be others, but they've since been renumbered (120 Loop) or decommissioned (407 Loop).  There are, of course, still plenty of spurs and connectors, though.

GA 15 Loop at Tallulah Falls is still there as of July 2011...

Mapmikey
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: SSOWorld on July 24, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Not "technically" a loop, but WIS 100 loops around the north, west and south sides of Milwaukee like a belt.  The east portion is WIS 32.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: froggie on July 25, 2011, 08:00:46 AM
MnDOT doesn't do loops.  They've found it preferable to have the bypass tie seamlessly into the through route on either end, unlike some southeastern examples (Kentucky, in particular).  The through route (i.e. US 10, US 52, MN 60, etc) is then routed onto the bypass.

Some counties and towns have designated "Ring Roads" (Hutchinson has one more-or-less built, and Owatonna has one planned), but these by and large are county routes, and are not one continuous route.
Title: Re: State Loops, Compared to Texas?
Post by: vdeane on July 25, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on July 24, 2011, 07:21:37 PM
New York's Loop Parkway is not a loop or even part of one. It's a spur. Go figure that out.
Well, Rochester's Inner Loop is at least a loop (or 2/3 of one... it's partially signed on I-490 and locals think of it as multiplexing with I-490, but the reference route does not overlap).  Our "Outer Loop" (comprised of I-390, I-590, NY 390, NY 590, and NY 104 at present, with 390 and 590 being former NY 47) isn't much of a loop either; unlike the Inner Loop it does maintain at least two through lanes on all portions (the Inner Loop only has one in the interchanges with I-490), though that's only due to a re-striping of NY 590 near NY 104.  It's also only 3/4 of a loop unless you count Ridge Rd, which has no access control.