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Title: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: OCGuy81 on September 16, 2011, 09:54:55 AM
Driving (well more like taking my foot off the break every few minutes) north on the 405 yesterday afternoon, I was reminded of how low planes fly over the stretch of freeway between the MacArthur Blvd exit and the interchange with the 55, as they land at John Wayne Airport.   It's kind of cool when you're in slow traffic, seeing planes drop to the runway just to the west of the freeway.

San Diego is another area where you can see low flying planes, be it in Balboa Park, or driving on I-5.  What are some other areas, perhaps in your neck of the woods, where planes fly pretty low over a highway? Some roads I've been on before, I can't quite remember where, had runways that went over surface streets.  That was pretty cool as well.

I'm an aviation geek in addition to being a road geek, so makes sense this is my first topic!  :D

Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: 1995hoo on September 16, 2011, 10:14:04 AM
The approach to Newark Airport passes over the New Jersey Turnpike at fairly low altitude.

I've never been there, but Maho Beach would be #1 on the list of low approaches over a road (and over the beach). There's a road just to the right of the beach shown here and the runway is just across that road. People hang onto the fence when planes are taking off so that they can feel the jet blast. Thankfully, when THIS plane took off the police knew enough to clear the area. The fence-surfers wouldn't have fared too well when the afterburners kicked in!

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This one shows the road. Notice the car. This approach is relatively high compared to a lot of pictures out there.

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Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: formulanone on September 16, 2011, 10:15:01 AM
Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport's Runway 9/27 is very close to I-95:

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This is from my car, on the frontage road between the runway and the interstate:

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There's a Low Flying Aircraft sign, but it's so far to the right on a mutil-lane highway, so you almost expect a few people to light up their tail lights in response, if one of those big birds comes in from the west (which is a fairly common approach to FLL, although occasionally from the east).

Always wanted to do the Maho Beach thing, though!
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: OCGuy81 on September 16, 2011, 10:18:04 AM
I saw that Maho Beach on the Travel Channel! That would be a great place to visit, IMO!  They say that bar patrons sit there and have to constantly speak up over air traffic, but it's a cool experience! Nice pull.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: 1995hoo on September 16, 2011, 10:45:56 AM



I can't find a Concorde video, unfortunately. But there are lots of videos of that airport online, including some where idiots get blown into the water.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: TheStranger on September 16, 2011, 10:46:24 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the landing approach for San Jose International Airport cross over I-880...in that vein, the takeoff path from the northwest/southeast runways at SFO (28R and 28L) directly overflies US 101.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: OCGuy81 on September 16, 2011, 10:53:15 AM
San Diego, IIRC, is a difficult airport to land at.  Pilots have to drop quick, as the terrain goes from about 300 feet to sea level in less than 1 nautical mile.  If you're in Balboa Park in San Diego, you'll often hear and see a LOT of planes.

I've never flown in to the airport, but visit SD often.  Some locals say that you fly between bulidings to land in San Diego, though I think that might be exaggerated a bit. You can see with this link how close the runway is to I-5 and a pretty densely populated area.  The airport is about 2, maybe 3 miles north of downtown.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=32.730289,-117.1742&spn=0.007058,0.013894&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=32.730289,-117.1742&spn=0.007058,0.013894&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6)

Supposedly, the city has been trying for 25 years to find a new site for an airport.  The government said no to plan to annex some of Miramar, so the search continues.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: realjd on September 16, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
^^^
It's definitely exaggerated that you fly between buildings to land in SAN. You pass just north of downtown. You do get frighteningly close to the top of a parking garage however when you fly over it.

Whenever I stay in the Doubletree downtown, I like getting a high floor room facing north because I can sit on my balcony and see the planes pass at the same height as my room and fairly close.

Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: OCGuy81 on September 16, 2011, 11:16:42 AM
This is interesting.  I found an article on the "10 Scariest Airports", and Orange County/John Wayne Airport made the list!

http://www.smartertravel.com/photo-galleries/editorial/worlds-scariest-airports.html?id=32&photo=8736 (http://www.smartertravel.com/photo-galleries/editorial/worlds-scariest-airports.html?id=32&photo=8736)

People are freaked out by the noise abatement policies.  Pilots usually cycle to full power at the runway, take off quick and climb steep to reduce engine power for quiet flight over Newport Beach.

It's kind of a weird feeling when you do takeoff.  It gets quiet and as soon as you're over the water you'll start hearing that engine roar again.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: InterstateNG on September 16, 2011, 04:38:47 PM
Planes landing at Detroit Metro fly pretty close to the ground over I-94.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: nexus73 on September 16, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
One does not need planes to fly in order to have them go over a road.  Try Sepulveda Boulevard by LAX!

Rick
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: myosh_tino on September 16, 2011, 06:30:14 PM
The runways at Mineta San Jose International butt up against Interstate 880.  As planes land from the south, they'll fly right over I-880 before landing.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: Eth on September 16, 2011, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on September 16, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
One does not need planes to fly in order to have them go over a road.  Try Sepulveda Boulevard by LAX!

Rick

Also see: I-285.  The Atlanta airport's newest runway (10/28) crosses directly over the Perimeter (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.62129&lon=-84.43085&zoom=15&layers=M).
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: Brandon on September 16, 2011, 07:36:14 PM
I-294 and I-90 near O'Hare see low-flying planes, but Midway sees much lower ones over Cicero (IL-50), 55th, 63rd, and Central Avenue.  Landing is half the fun.  "Hey, look, there's a neighborhood, and those houses are close.  Look, there's Cicero Avenue..." BUMP, BUMP SCREECH!

Found some YouTubes of landing at Midway.

Nighttime (coming in over 63rd and Cicero):
http://youtu.be/E1vgyJ5k8rY

Daytime (coming in over 63rd and Central - pilot's view):
http://youtu.be/Ty2qeAKywgM

From the ground:
http://youtu.be/0N9SxRu51tU

Note how close to the residences the planes get, and how fast landing comes after passing the street corners.  :-o
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: xcellntbuy on September 16, 2011, 07:53:38 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there are still taxi runways that are overpasses on Interstate 678 in New York at Kennedy Airport.  The Interstate highway dips down so the planes have no incline.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: DeaconG on September 16, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
Two of the main runways at Orlando International have approaches that are right over the Beachline and McCoy Road...in years past, McCoy Road was a favorite place for plane spotters to check out the planes...not anymore.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: PAHighways on September 16, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
The approaches for Pittsburgh International are directly in the path of Business Loop 376 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Robinson+Township,+PA&hl=en&ll=40.486518,-80.236759&spn=0.032835,0.077162&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.999041,79.013672&vpsrc=6&t=m&z=14) and the one for Arnold Palmer Regional Airport is not far from the southwest corner of the US 30/PA 981 intersection (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Latrobe,+PA&hl=en&ll=40.283995,-79.393473&spn=0.008234,0.01929&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.999041,79.013672&vpsrc=6&t=m&z=16).

While not flying over PA 885, the runway for the Allegheny County Airport (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=West+Mifflin,+PA&ll=40.355276,-79.926267&spn=0.01645,0.038581&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=6) extends over that route with the approach coming from the east over the Lebanon Church Road/Buttermilk Hollow Road intersection.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: MrDisco99 on September 16, 2011, 10:14:18 PM
The New Jersey Turnpike by EWR and I-85 by ATL are the two examples that instantly come to mind for me.

I-85 gets fairly close to CLT as well if I remember right.

Also the Dolphin Expressway by MIA.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: corco on September 16, 2011, 10:18:34 PM
SR 143/Hohokam Expressway comes pretty close to the usual final into Sky Harbor
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: deathtopumpkins on September 16, 2011, 10:30:16 PM
I-64 is right next to the end of a runway at both Norfolk International and Newport News/Williamsburg International in Hampton Roads, and several of the approaches to Boston Logan go right over parts of the city, including some roads like MA 1A.

And I-564 tunnels under a runway at Naval Station Norfolk.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: hbelkins on September 16, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
Bluegrass Airport in Lexington has a runway that is awfully close to US 60.

And if I am not mistaken, US 11 tunnels under the runway at the airport in Hagerstown, MD.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on September 17, 2011, 01:00:00 AM
A-13 next to Montréal-Trudeau International Airport (CYUL), Runway 24R. Planes landing above the highway.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: roadfro on September 18, 2011, 06:30:52 AM
The main E/W runways at McCarran International Airport (LAS) in Las Vegas are kinda close to I-15 – not nearly as close as some of the other highway/airport combinations listed here. Actually, the blast pad for runway 7L/25R (the longest runway, typically used for takeoffs) is adjacent to Las Vegas Blvd about 1/4 mile south of the "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign. Most planes usually lift off near the middle of the runway, so they're fairly high off the ground before flying over the boulevard.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: haljackey on September 18, 2011, 12:00:26 PM
Planes come awfully close to Highways 401 and 427 in Toronto. Here's a video of the 18-lane stretch of Highway 401 near the airport. You can see a plane take off in it as well.

Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: thenetwork on September 18, 2011, 11:05:04 PM
I-480, just west of I-71 in Cleveland.  Notice the street lamps which aren't much taller than 15 feet.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=brook+park+ohio&hl=en&ll=41.420467,-81.828248&spn=0.001195,0.00327&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=41.224889,107.138672&vpsrc=6&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=41.420451,-81.828411&panoid=a170UUopTLk1erOMRVi5-Q&cbp=12,283.79,,0,2.64
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: WNYroadgeek on September 19, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
I-90 in Cheektowaga:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Buffalo+Niagara+International+Airport,+Buffalo,+NY&hl=en&ll=42.949701,-78.717738&spn=0.004531,0.006899&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.052282,56.513672&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=17

On a side note, one of the nearby surface streets, Aero Drive, tunnels underneath the runway:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Buffalo+Niagara+International+Airport,+Buffalo,+NY&hl=en&ll=42.945278,-78.724784&spn=0.000004,0.001725&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.052282,56.513672&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=42.945278,-78.724784&panoid=K2bq1Fd-9pnLklTYiyDF3g&cbp=12,116.99,,0,0
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: realjd on September 20, 2011, 07:52:01 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 16, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
Bluegrass Airport in Lexington has a runway that is awfully close to US 60.

And if I am not mistaken, US 11 tunnels under the runway at the airport in Hagerstown, MD.

US 67 tunnels under a runway at STL also.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: OCGuy81 on September 20, 2011, 09:43:52 AM
I believe another highway that goes under a runway is WI-38 going under a runway at Milwaukee Gen. Mitchell Airport.  It's been a few years since I've been there, but if I remember correctly, I saw a plane going over the highway that leads to the airport.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: MDOTFanFB on September 23, 2011, 09:11:21 PM
Quote from: InterstateNG on September 16, 2011, 04:38:47 PM
Planes landing at Detroit Metro fly pretty close to the ground over I-94.

Not only close to I-94, but the planes also fly low over I-275, Eureka Road, Middlebelt Road, Wayne Road, Vining Road and Goddard Road. Below is a photo taken by me of a plane flying low over the Eureka Road interchange on I-275:

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Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: newyorker478 on September 23, 2011, 10:12:14 PM
It's inevitable that almost every airport will have at least somewhat low flying planes over nearby Interstates/other highways. There needs to be access to the airport.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: andytom on September 24, 2011, 05:24:01 PM
Maho Beach may be the best for public access places, but it doesn't even come close to sitting out on the hammerhead.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: JREwing78 on September 25, 2011, 01:50:56 AM
Sometimes, they fly a little too low:

Fog may have been a factor in fatal airplane crash on U.S. 131, police say
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/09/fog_may_have_been_a_factor_in.html
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: andytom on September 25, 2011, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on September 25, 2011, 01:50:56 AM
Sometimes, they fly a little too low:

Fog may have been a factor in fatal airplane crash on U.S. 131, police say
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2011/09/fog_may_have_been_a_factor_in.html

http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.467341,-85.651552&spn=0.001599,0.003895&t=h&z=19&vpsrc=6

Looks like the landing threshold was moved closer to the highway recently.  Also doesn't appear to be any type of visual approach slope indicator (pretty standard for small airports).
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: 3467 on November 02, 2011, 09:41:43 PM
I have been  more annoyed by small planes especially cropdusters flying too low.I had one pop out right out of a fog bank right above me once. he was apparently using the Interstate as a marker.
I can recall many stories of small planes using roads as landing strips.
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: MASTERNC on November 03, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 16, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
Bluegrass Airport in Lexington has a runway that is awfully close to US 60.

And if I am not mistaken, US 11 tunnels under the runway at the airport in Hagerstown, MD.

And I-81 is near a runway.  There are signs for low flying planes and the red runway indicator lights on poles border the highway
Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 08, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
South Jersey Regional Airport, the runway end is about 20-30 feet off the shoulder of CR 630.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mt+Holly+NJ&hl=en&ll=40.021338,-74.840541&spn=0.003993,0.013797&sll=39.981856,-74.6521&sspn=0.280959,0.441513&vpsrc=6&gl=us&hnear=Mt+Holly,+Burlington,+New+Jersey&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.02134,-74.840544&panoid=53WXqE8AjDSS3wAsy-AnMw&cbp=12,139.22,,0,10.64

It is a small airport, general aviation i believe.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mt+Holly+NJ&hl=en&ll=39.354623,-74.457426&spn=0.00443,0.010986&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&gl=us&hnear=Mt+Holly,+Burlington,+New+Jersey&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.354623,-74.457426&panoid=ljR4-6r2db_alvTj7NhN7A&cbp=12,29.78,,0,2.55 former bader field, atlantic city NJ was right next to US 322.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mt+Holly+NJ&hl=en&ll=39.465811,-74.595005&spn=0.035649,0.087891&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&gl=us&hnear=Mt+Holly,+Burlington,+New+Jersey&t=h&z=14&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.465811,-74.595005&panoid=Hcb7QHeg_kvMA5lIFvjmdw&cbp=12,103.62,,0,10.46

Atlantic county route 563 (tilton road) is right on the approach for a runway at atlantic city interntaional airport.

Title: Re: Low flying planes near highways
Post by: roadman65 on November 08, 2011, 09:42:53 PM
The Tampa International Airport has a runway so close to FL 580 that traffic signals have to be side mounted at an intersection near the runway start.  This is not so the signals will get hit by a 747, but its in the instrument path of the planes.  

I-95 and I-78 are very close to EWR in Newark, NJ.
FL 528 is close to the runways at MCO in Orlando, FL.