Amazon.com has copies of the MUTCD available for 2000 and 2009. Also a CD-Rom for rules regarding Clearview Typeface.
They also have 2010 Calfornia MUTCD.
It must be a generational thing, but while most of my coworkers pass around our hard copies of the 2009, I pretty much always use the online version (saved to our files, of course). I find it much quicker to do searches and flip through file pages (I can find a W16-2P in seconds instead of minutes). Why pay for a hard copy when you can see the whole thing for free? (Note: not all states with supplements or their own MUTCDs publish them online, but a fair number do - I've retrieved four or five already.)
Quote from: Steve on October 07, 2011, 06:39:24 PM
It must be a generational thing, but while most of my coworkers pass around our hard copies of the 2009, I pretty much always use the online version (saved to our files, of course). I find it much quicker to do searches and flip through file pages (I can find a W16-2P in seconds instead of minutes). Why pay for a hard copy when you can see the whole thing for free? (Note: not all states with supplements or their own MUTCDs publish them online, but a fair number do - I've retrieved four or five already.)
At the time, I was just playing on Amazon, as I occasionally do. I picked up an '09 loose leaf for relatively cheap off e-bay a while back.
I wish they'd sell an "official" Highway Gothic set of fonts, though. I've found the official Clearview but there are a million and one takes on the FHWA Series.
I agree with the online MUTCD, though. I always use that in place of a hard copy.
Quote from: US71 on September 25, 2011, 09:28:17 PM
Amazon.com has copies of the MUTCD available for 2000 and 2009. Also a CD-Rom for rules regarding Clearview Typeface.
They also have 2010 Calfornia MUTCD.
what about buy.com? Do they have the 2009 MUTCD and the CD-Rom rules on Clearview?
Quote from: Quillz on October 08, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
I wish they'd sell an "official" Highway Gothic set of fonts, though. I've found the official Clearview but there are a million and one takes on the FHWA Series.
I agree with the online MUTCD, though. I always use that in place of a hard copy.
They must sell them in some form, because they're implemented in GuidSIGN.
Quote from: Steve on October 10, 2011, 08:23:54 PM
Quote from: Quillz on October 08, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
I wish they'd sell an "official" Highway Gothic set of fonts, though. I've found the official Clearview but there are a million and one takes on the FHWA Series.
I agree with the online MUTCD, though. I always use that in place of a hard copy.
They must sell them in some form, because they're implemented in GuidSIGN.
http://www.fhwa.org/en/products/fhwa/fhwa_intro_en.html
Quote from: US71 on October 11, 2011, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 10, 2011, 08:23:54 PM
Quote from: Quillz on October 08, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
I wish they'd sell an "official" Highway Gothic set of fonts, though. I've found the official Clearview but there are a million and one takes on the FHWA Series.
I agree with the online MUTCD, though. I always use that in place of a hard copy.
They must sell them in some form, because they're implemented in GuidSIGN.
http://www.fhwa.org/en/products/fhwa/fhwa_intro_en.html
I've called them up before and they won't sell to individuals, despite what it says on their website (regarding an educational discount). In fact, when I called, they were quite suspicious for some reason and wanted to know exactly what I wanted them for.
Quote from: Quillz on October 11, 2011, 03:25:15 PMI've called them up before and they won't sell to individuals, despite what it says on their website (regarding an educational discount). In fact, when I called, they were quite suspicious for some reason and wanted to know exactly what I wanted them for.
tell them you want to build roads for Al Qaeda.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 11, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
Quote from: Quillz on October 11, 2011, 03:25:15 PMI've called them up before and they won't sell to individuals, despite what it says on their website (regarding an educational discount). In fact, when I called, they were quite suspicious for some reason and wanted to know exactly what I wanted them for.
tell them you want to build roads for Al Qaeda.
They told me I had to have either a govt. contract or be calling on behalf of some sort of DOT. I didn't realize simply selling someone some fonts was such a gigantic security measure or w/e.
I also found this:
http://www.symbolgraphics.com/index.htm
Despite the name, "fhwa.org" is probably not official.
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on October 11, 2011, 07:38:29 PM
Despite the name, "fhwa.org" is probably not official.
Good guess:
Registrant Name:DGI Technologies Corporation
Registrant Organization:DGI Technologies Corporation
Registrant Street1:57 Mill Street North
Registrant Street2:Suite 208
Registrant City:Brampton
Registrant State/Province:Ontario
Registrant Postal Code:L6X 1S9
DGI Technologies, hmm? This opinion suggests they are a shady operator:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&case=/data2/circs/5th/9711339cv0v2.html
Off topic, but the two I use are Saa (has a Series A and seems to be based on pre-2000 revisions) and PIXhighways2002 (what I've been using recently.)
Quote from: US71 on October 11, 2011, 01:55:52 PM
http://www.fhwa.org/en/products/fhwa/fhwa_intro_en.html
Intriguing on that page is the concept of "FHWA XV" fonts, which are supposedly supposed to address some of the issues some agencies have with Clearview through some modifications to the FHWA 2000 series fonts.
Too bad the page hasn't been updated in 5 years... or that this site is apparently shady...
Quote from: Quillz on October 11, 2011, 11:07:19 PM
Off topic, but the two I use are Saa (has a Series A and seems to be based on pre-2000 revisions) and PIXhighways2002 (what I've been using recently.)
Any way to get copies of those? :hmm:
Quote from: US71 on October 12, 2011, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: Quillz on October 11, 2011, 11:07:19 PM
Off topic, but the two I use are Saa (has a Series A and seems to be based on pre-2000 revisions) and PIXhighways2002 (what I've been using recently.)
Any way to get copies of those? :hmm:
PM me and I'll send you all the fonts I've got.
how accurate is that Series A?
I remember making up my set from a printed 1966 reference, with diagrams complete with lengths and radii. The digit "8" contained several instructions which were contradictory, so for that I kinda did the best I could. But I would like a proper "8", if one is possible.
I don't really have a good guide showing Series A numerals, so I can't speak for Saa's accuracy. But it's the only easily obtainable set I know of that has a Series A. Someone told me the entire set itself is based on an older MUTCD standard, perhaps from the 1970s or so.