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Title: Redundant City Names
Post by: xonhulu on September 28, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Spinning off the Redundant Street Names thread, what redundant city names are there in your state (or are anywhere you know of)?

Here in Oregon, we have Forest Grove, two words that both refer to a group of trees, although "forest" implies a larger collection.

Down in southern Oregon, there is the small town of Glendale.  "Glen" and "dale" basically both mean "valley."

Anybody else?
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 28, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: xonhulu on September 28, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Down in southern Oregon, there is the small town of Glendale.  "Glen" and "dale" basically both mean "valley."


there is a suburb of Los Angeles called Glendale as well.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: allniter89 on September 28, 2011, 11:26:12 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 28, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: xonhulu on September 28, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Down in southern Oregon, there is the small town of Glendale.  "Glen" and "dale" basically both mean "valley."


there is a suburb of Los Angeles called Glendale as well.
Glendale, Florida
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: golden eagle on September 28, 2011, 11:33:18 PM
Glendale, AZ

How about Oak Grove?
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: allniter89 on September 28, 2011, 11:47:31 PM
Benton Harbor, michigan
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: yanksfan6129 on September 29, 2011, 01:34:46 AM
Quote from: allniter89 on September 28, 2011, 11:47:31 PM
Benton Harbor, michigan

I fail to see the redundancy.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Landshark on September 29, 2011, 06:40:22 AM
Walla Walla
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Brandon on September 29, 2011, 07:33:51 AM
When using the official names, the Department of Redundancy Department rears its head in Illinois.

City of Granite City, IL
Village of Elk Grove Village, IL (IIRC)
Village of Libertyville, IL (ville = village)
City of Naperville (a bit of a contradiction)
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: english si on September 29, 2011, 09:06:12 AM
While not a city, Torpenhow Hill in Cumbria is literally 'hill hill hill Hill' - it seems that as times changed, the original meaning was lost so 'Hill' became 'Hill Pen' became 'Torpen Hill' became 'Torpenhow Hill'

'Ham' and 'Ton' both mean enclosure/farm/settlement, so Hampton (and Northampton, Southampton, Littlehampton, etc) is a perhaps a tautology.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: US71 on September 29, 2011, 09:19:12 AM
Helena-West Helena, AR

Formerly 2 separate communities, they merged several years ago
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: xcellntbuy on September 29, 2011, 12:10:49 PM
Fort Lauderdale, Lauderdale-by-the-Sea, North Lauderdale, Lauderdale Lakes, Lauderhill, all in Broward County, Florida.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Stephane Dumas on September 29, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
In Detroit, there the Grosse Pointe area who have the following

Grosse Pointe Park, city
Grosse Pointe, city
Grosse Pointe Farms, city
Grosse Pointe Shores, city (incorporated in 2009 from the remnants of two townships, Grosse Pointe Township in Wayne County and Lake Township in Macomb County)
Grosse Pointe Woods

I saw at some other forums then Grosse Pointe Shores wants to left Wayne Co to Macomb Co and/or a amalgation of all the Pointes.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: xonhulu on September 29, 2011, 08:09:18 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 29, 2011, 09:19:12 AM
Helena-West Helena, AR

Formerly 2 separate communities, they merged several years ago

And they seriously couldn't just called the merged city "Helena?"
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: formulanone on September 30, 2011, 01:04:18 PM
There's an Earth, Texas.

And a Lorida, Florida, as well as lots of other (mostly suburban) towns/cities in the state that have no meaning to reality, they just sound tropical.

Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: SteveG1988 on September 30, 2011, 02:12:01 PM
Burlington coat factory, in Burlington, burlington county nj. Formerly the county seat, which moved to Mount Holly Township.

Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Bryant5493 on September 30, 2011, 05:53:07 PM
Stone Mountain, Georgia - The park is in the city of the same name (or just outside of it).


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 30, 2011, 07:51:17 PM
Cleveland, East Cleveland, and Cleveland Hts. All in Cuyahoga County.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Bryant5493 on September 30, 2011, 09:48:09 PM
Dublin and East Dublin - both are in Laurens County, Georgia

Ellijay and East Ellijay - both are in Gilmer County, Georgia


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: roadman65 on November 12, 2011, 07:01:58 PM
Washington is used too much in New Jersey!  There are three communities named that within 10 miles of each other in Northern New Jersey.  Two border each other and most do not know that they are two different corporations.  Washington Borough and Washington Township in Warren County are up the road from Washington Township in Morris County.

How many Springfields are there in the US?
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 13, 2011, 12:09:27 PM
Cape May Court House NJ and Cape may NJ, two towns that are near each other, one sounds like the destination inside of the other.

or Moorestown and Morristown NJ, two different regions, if you talk to someone from north jersey and pronounce Moorestown wrong, you confuse them thinking you are talking about the town in north jersey, and not the town off 295/nj38 in south jersey.

Newark NJ, Newark Delaware, two cities with the same name, but different pronunciation.

Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: roadman65 on November 13, 2011, 01:14:56 PM


Newark NJ, Newark Delaware, two cities with the same name, but different pronunciation.


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Newoork or New Ark.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Duke87 on November 15, 2011, 09:16:02 PM
Table Mesa, CO.

("mesa" is Spanish for "table")
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Alps on November 16, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Not redundant, but an oxymoron: Deerfield Beach, Florida. I know there exist Key Deer, but those are in the Keys. No deer on a beach, not to mention no fields on a beach.

My "favorite" state of PA has a Townville.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: formulanone on November 17, 2011, 12:47:09 AM
Quote from: Steve on November 16, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Not redundant, but an oxymoron: Deerfield Beach, Florida. I know there exist Key Deer, but those are in the Keys. No deer on a beach, not to mention no fields on a beach.

There actually were a tiny handful of deer in the estuary along some of the shallow portions of the Intracoastal Waterway, but their numbers are quite small as to be insignificant. There were deer crossing signs by A1A, just south of SR 810, but admittedly, I haven't seen the sign in years, as most deer populations have pretty much moved to the Everglades.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: hobsini2 on November 17, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
Leeds and North Leeds WI are 2 unincorporated towns separated by 2 miles and all they are are junctions on US 51.

BTW, Oshkosh had at one point been 2 separate towns: Algoma (north of the Fox River) and Brooklyn (south) before the USPS made them change because there were already towns in WI with those names.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Crazy Volvo Guy on December 03, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
Townsville, QLD, Australia comes to mind.

Might as well just call it Townstown.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: yanksfan6129 on December 03, 2011, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: US-43|72 on December 03, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
Townsville, QLD, Australia comes to mind.

Might as well just call it Townstown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Towns
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: PAHighways on December 05, 2011, 02:09:04 PM
While Edinboro, Lanesboro, Stoneboro, and Wellsboro, PA are boroughs, Washington Boro, PA is ironically not a borough.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: huskeroadgeek on December 07, 2011, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 29, 2011, 07:33:51 AM
When using the official names, the Department of Redundancy Department rears its head in Illinois.

City of Granite City, IL
Village of Elk Grove Village, IL (IIRC)
Village of Libertyville, IL (ville = village)
City of Naperville (a bit of a contradiction)

In a group of funny sign pictures I once saw a picture of the Gas City, IN city hall which said "City of Gas City City Hall".
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: oscar on December 07, 2011, 02:52:16 PM
Hawaii has three Waimeas and two Kailuas.  All are on separate islands, which once were in separate kingdoms.  The Waimea on Kauai and the Kailua on Oahu kept their names for postal purposes and generally, but the Waimea on Oahu is postally Maunawai, the one on the Big Island is postally Kamuela, and the Kailua on the Big Island is postally (and usually for other purposes) Kailua-Kona. 
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: vtk on December 09, 2011, 02:51:37 AM
I wouldn't say official names like City Of Grove City are redundant.  It's just a legal way to say:

Type=CITY;
Name="Grove City";
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 09, 2011, 08:02:59 AM
Quote from: US-43|72 on December 03, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
Townsville, QLD, Australia comes to mind.

Might as well just call it Townstown.
I don't think the Powerpuff Girls would like that very much  ;-)
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: hm insulators on December 12, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
In Los Angeles, there's a place called the La Brea Tar Pits. "La Brea" is "The Tar" in Spanish. So in English, they would be the The Tar Tar Pits.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: pianocello on December 27, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
There's a river in Michigan that's called the Battle Creek River. Why they couldn't settle with just "Battle Creek" or "Battle River" is beyond me.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: bulldog1979 on December 31, 2011, 09:40:07 AM
The official names are the City of the Village of Clarkston, Michigan and the City of the Village of Douglas, Michigan.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: Takumi on December 31, 2011, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: pianocello on December 27, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
There's a river in Michigan that's called the Battle Creek River. Why they couldn't settle with just "Battle Creek" or "Battle River" is beyond me.

Near Richmond we have a White Oak Swamp Creek.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: roadman65 on January 14, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
City of Jersey City or City of Atlantic City.
Title: Re: Redundant City Names
Post by: roadman65 on January 14, 2012, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: Takumi on December 31, 2011, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: pianocello on December 27, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
There's a river in Michigan that's called the Battle Creek River. Why they couldn't settle with just "Battle Creek" or "Battle River" is beyond me.

Near Richmond we have a White Oak Swamp Creek.

Gunpowder Falls River in Maryland and Maurice River Cove in New Jersey.