How many cases can you think of a freeway that ends at a STOP sign? One that comes off the top of my head is the east end of the Uhrichsville/Dennison By-Pass (US 250/OH 800) in Ohio. Any other examples?
Currently FL 414 near Orlando, but that soon is going to change when the new FL 414, FL 429, and FL 451 interchange is completed.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 27, 2011, 08:03:13 PM
How many cases can you think of a freeway that ends at a STOP sign? One that comes off the top of my head is the east end of the Uhrichsville/Dennison By-Pass (US 250/OH 800) in Ohio. Any other examples?
When I was a kid I-195 in NJ ended at CR 527. There was a stop sign there. (Roadgeek memory I was no more than 5 or 6 and I can still see the stop sign in my head)
Historically, the Kansas Turnpike, at the Oklahoma border, right?
I can't think of any other examples.
Taking a look at the Uhrichsville/Dennison By-Pass, Google's property lines imply some ROW for a couple more miles of freeway eastwards.
I think the MO 21/Blood Alley Replacement Freeway ended at a stop sign back when the southern terminus was at Schenk road.
I-176 in PA used to before the PA Turnpike/ PA 10 interchange was redone to have a direct connection between it and its parent.
A-955, if you dare call that a freeway. And possibly the Bécancour section of A-30; though I would have to check and make sure.
Grapevine, TX. In the 1970-80's, SH 121 northbound freeway ended at a T-interstection with the original alignment north of DFW Airport. My memories of this area are very vauge, but I'm thinking there might have been a stop sign. Does anybody else know?
At one time, Ohio 11 (4-lane freeway) ended at Ohio 531 (2-lane) in eastern Ashtabula with STOP signs and flashing lights...but i haven't been there since 1989, so i do not know how it is done now
Lake Ontario State Parkway used to end with stop signs on both ends, but now it has a bridge over the Genesee River. There used to be a stop sign at Lake Avenue.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on October 27, 2011, 08:03:13 PM
How many cases can you think of a freeway that ends at a STOP sign? One that comes off the top of my head is the east end of the Uhrichsville/Dennison By-Pass (US 250/OH 800) in Ohio. Any other examples?
In Howard County, Maryland U.S. 29, Columbia Pike (which is functionally classed an expressway, since it has some signalized intersections) formerly ended at a STOP sign at Md. 99, Old Frederick Road, just north of I-70. It's a signalized intersection now.
Southbound Autoroute 15 in Quebec comes to a stop sign shortly before the US border. Drivers can either turn off the highway, proceed to the duty-free shop, or head to US Customs. The freeway resumes on the other side of the Customs booths as I-87.
I suppose technically the autoroute "ends" at the border, not at the stop sign, but I'm viewing it from a practical standpoint, not a hypertechnical one, as you could justifiably say that the subject line asks where a "freeway" ends, as opposed to where the "route" ends.
Similar situation: There's a three-lane left exit off I-280 eastbound in New Jersey (serving Newark) that leads abruptly into a street perpendicular to it. I assume (haven't been there in years) it's a light rather than a stop sign, but I wonder how many people not paying attention go barreling down that exit and are taken by surprise by the intersection?
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.750411,-74.186554&spn=0.00473,0.00825&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6
Southern Parkway in St. George.
Quote from: vtk on October 27, 2011, 08:21:10 PMHistorically, the Kansas Turnpike, at the Oklahoma border, right?
Yes. I have confirmed this against the original signing plans for the Turnpike (KTA contract no. SD-1). Southbound traffic saw two STOP signs on either side of the carriageway, with lead-in signing as follows: "STOP 600 FEET," "SPEED LIMIT 35," "TURNPIKE ENDS 1/2 MILE," "35 M.P.H. ZONE AHEAD," and "TURNPIKE ENDS 1 MILE." This signing (which at first blush looks like everything that is necessary to give motorists plenty of warning of the upcoming end of the road) was soon amended after the famous sequence of run-off-the-road accidents in 1956-57.
The Turnpike is paved. In contradistinction, the state line road where the Turnpike ended was then, and still is, unpaved. Considering their respective traffic volumes and states of improvement, it would have been arguably more logical for the STOP signs to face traffic on the state line road, but the Turnpike Authority nevertheless put them on the southbound Turnpike.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 28, 2011, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: vtk on October 27, 2011, 08:21:10 PMHistorically, the Kansas Turnpike, at the Oklahoma border, right?
Yes. I have confirmed this against the original signing plans for the Turnpike (KTA contract no. SD-1). Southbound traffic saw two STOP signs on either side of the carriageway, with lead-in signing as follows: "STOP 600 FEET," "SPEED LIMIT 35," "TURNPIKE ENDS 1/2 MILE," "35 M.P.H. ZONE AHEAD," and "TURNPIKE ENDS 1 MILE." This signing (which at first blush looks like everything that is necessary to give motorists plenty of warning of the upcoming end of the road) was soon amended after the famous sequence of run-off-the-road accidents in 1956-57.
The Turnpike is paved. In contradistinction, the state line road where the Turnpike ended was then, and still is, unpaved. Considering their respective traffic volumes and states of improvement, it would have been arguably more logical for the STOP signs to face traffic on the state line road, but the Turnpike Authority nevertheless put them on the southbound Turnpike.
Have a look at this link for an aerial photograph of the former end of the Kansas Turnpike. It's a .PDF about the road's history from the Turnpike Authority's website. (http://www.ksturnpike.com/assets/uploads/driven_by_vision_5.pdf)
Edited to add:
I found a photograph of the stop signs at the southern end of the Kansas Turnpike. It's easy to laugh now when we see this, but it must have stunk for Amos Switzer. (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19570403&id=FFdIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=wgAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7241,5569082)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corbisimages.com%2Fimages%2FU1103887.jpg%3Fsize%3D67%26amp%3Buid%3Dad3d322c-c7a1-4bee-9f17-4e3801e73d2e&hash=644b659551d21044f42370fa770fa11ea2830002)
Prior to the late 80s/early 90s, before the bypass around Huron, OH was completed, SR-2 westbound ended at a stop sign at SR-61 near Berlin Heights/Ceylon.
Kinda cool since they never fully built the "ramps" they made for the future full interchange with SR-61, and they remained as unbuilt stubs until they actually started building the missing link around Huron in the late 80s.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 28, 2011, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: vtk on October 27, 2011, 08:21:10 PMHistorically, the Kansas Turnpike, at the Oklahoma border, right?
Yes. I have confirmed this against the original signing plans for the Turnpike (KTA contract no. SD-1). Southbound traffic saw two STOP signs on either side of the carriageway, with lead-in signing as follows: "STOP 600 FEET," "SPEED LIMIT 35," "TURNPIKE ENDS 1/2 MILE," "35 M.P.H. ZONE AHEAD," and "TURNPIKE ENDS 1 MILE." This signing (which at first blush looks like everything that is necessary to give motorists plenty of warning of the upcoming end of the road) was soon amended after the famous sequence of run-off-the-road accidents in 1956-57.
The Turnpike is paved. In contradistinction, the state line road where the Turnpike ended was then, and still is, unpaved. Considering their respective traffic volumes and states of improvement, it would have been arguably more logical for the STOP signs to face traffic on the state line road, but the Turnpike Authority nevertheless put them on the southbound Turnpike.
When the Turnpike was planned like that, were there any plans in Oklahoma to build something to connect to it?
The north end of I-79 ends at a traffic light, but I guess that doesn't count.
^^They could extend it to Kitchener... :-)
Quote from: Michael in Philly on October 28, 2011, 01:03:47 PMWhen the Turnpike was planned like that, were there any plans in Oklahoma to build something to connect to it?
Yes. What is now I-35 between the state line and Oklahoma City was originally planned as part of the Oklahoma turnpike system. However, soon after the Kansas Turnpike opened, Oklahoma decided not to proceed with a turnpike in that corridor. Oklahoma did however bail us out by building the first section of I-35 from the state line down to what is now the US 177 exit near Braman. Construction began around 1959 and when it was finished, it was described as the first Interstate (either first overall or first funded with Interstate Construction funds) to be built across a state line.
The Kansas Turnpike and I-35 in northern Oklahoma have distinctive styles of overcrossing bridge. KTA has historically preferred steel girder bridges with heavy-looking concrete post railings which look vaguely like a Romanesque colonnade. On the other hand, Oklahoma's original bridges on its part of I-35 are reinforced concrete bridges with haunched slabs and a much more open post-and-rail style of bridge rail. When Oklahoma built the part of I-35 between the state line and the US 177 exit, the overpasses that were entirely in Oklahoma were in the Oklahoma style while the bridge that exactly straddles the state line (carrying the state line road over I-35, classified by KTA as bridge number 0.000) was designed and built by Oklahoma but in the same style as other bridges on the Kansas Turnpike. I have not confirmed this, but I suspect that the KTA made a contribution to the Oklahoma Highway Department in respect of the part of the bridge that is over Kansas soil.
All of Kentucky's parkways that end at surface roads end at traffic lights, not stop signs, with the exception of the turn from eastbound Bluegrass Parkway to westbound US 60, which has a stop sign for that movement only. However, that may change when the Natcher Parkway extension opens between I-65 and US 231 south of Bowling Green. When I was there last fall, the road was under construction and I didn't see any provisions for installation of a traffic light. That may have changed, however.
Kentucky's freeway endings:
Purchase Pkwy: interchange at US 45/45E/45W south of the Tennessee state line, traffic light at US 62
Western KY Parkway: interchange at I-24, traffic light at US 31W
Audubon Parkway: interchange at Pennyrile Parkway, interchange at US 60
Owensboro bypass: traffic lights at both ends
Pennyrile Parkway: interchange at I-24, interchange at US 60
Natcher Parkway: interchange at US 60, currently an interchange at I-65
Cumberland Parkway: interchange at I-65, interchange at US 27
Gene Snyder Freeway: interchange at US 31W/US 60, traffic light at US 42
Bluegrass Parkway, interchange at I-65, interchange at US 60
New Circle Road: full circle route
I-471: traffic light at US 27 (this is technically KY 471, as the I-471 designation officially ends at I-275
Hal Rogers Parkway: traffic light at US 25, interchange at KY 15
Mountain Parkway: interchange at I-64, traffic light at US 460
Did I miss any?
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 28, 2011, 12:25:22 PMI found a photograph of the stop signs at the southern end of the Kansas Turnpike. It's easy to laugh now when we see this, but it must have stunk for Amos Switzer. (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=19570403&id=FFdIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=wgAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7241,5569082)
This photograph (dated April 1957) shows a signing arrangement that has been modified from the original construction. The barricades (with "STOP" in diamond) you see just outside Mr. Switzer's oat field were not there when the Turnpike opened. They are in the original location of the "US 177 3 MILES -->" sign. The stop signs also have conspicuity flags that were absent in the original installation.
Interestingly, the STOP signs are all black on yellow instead of white on red, which had been the standard in Kansas since 1954. This makes me suspect that the STOP signs were old ones salvaged for reuse on the Turnpike since STOP signs were not expected to last long in that location. The US 177 sign is also missing "3" before "MILE" (not "MILES" as shown in the plans) and the arrow points left, toward the legend block, rather than to the right, in the actual direction of US 177. The original guide signing on the Kansas Turnpike consisted of extruded aluminum panels with demountable legend having whole-letter retroreflectorization. The odd arrangement of legend on the US 177 sign in the 1957 picture suggests that the original sign was knocked down in one of the run-off-the-road accidents, some of the demountable legend was knocked off of it ("3" and the final "S" in "MILES" disappearing), and not all of the copy was put back on correctly when it was salvaged for re-erection.
Speaking of Mr. Switzer, newspapers at the time described him as being a good sport about the whole thing.
I wonder if that is a Kansas or an Oklahoma US 177 cutout.
The northern end of the US-31 freeway in Ludington, MI ends at a stop sign (technicality: the ramp from the freeway to WB US-10 merges in, but the ramp to EB US-10 (which carries US-31) ends at a stop sign).
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 28, 2011, 02:07:29 PMI wonder if that is a Kansas or an Oklahoma US 177 cutout.
Hard to say. With some isolated exceptions (generally signed, as far as I can tell, with the 24" markers which at the time were considered "oversize" markers), KTA back in 1956 didn't like to use shields. There were city-bypass diagrammatics which did use shields but squares were used for state routes instead of sunflowers. State highways were generally identified using text legends on advance guide and exit direction signing, and there was a consistent syntax. US routes were always "US XXX," while state routes were always "ROUTE K-XX." General bearing of route was expressed using phrases like "TOPEKA AND EAST," "WICHITA AND SOUTH," or "SOUTHWEST."
Early signing on the Kansas Turnpike actually has quite a bit in common with early signing on the Turner Turnpike in Oklahoma. It was not until much later that Turnpike signing was
MUTCDified.
the thing is, it looks like KTA was already using surplus signs (the yellow STOP signs) so maybe they snagged the first available 177 sign from the local Kansas DOT yard.
alternately, that might be an Oklahoma installation. I do not know where the state line is, but the traffic coming off the Turnpike is likely going to Oklahoma destinations (if not, they would've likely exited earlier) so it makes sense for Oklahoma to put up guidance.
of course, you now have contradictory signs. the shield has an arrow pointing right, while the spelled-out guide sign points left. whoops. hope you brought your map!
The southern end (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=somerset,+pa&ll=39.984881,-79.042597&spn=0.00827,0.01929&hnear=Somerset,+Pennsylvania&t=m&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.984721,-79.042677&panoid=w9h3gERGkhW0y00-Z_fJ5w&cbp=12,200.47,,0,9.11) near Somerset and northern end (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ebensburg,+PA&hl=en&ll=40.552662,-78.718543&spn=0.008201,0.01929&sll=39.984716,-79.042683&sspn=0.008336,0.01929&vpsrc=6&hnear=Ebensburg,+Cambria,+Pennsylvania&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.553102,-78.717402&panoid=PcigOmDIrKqN_oACMI2o8A&cbp=12,71.53,,0,-0.2) north of Ebensburg of the US 219 expressway have stop signs.
How many of those mentioned are actually the permanent end of the freeway and not just the end of a ramp?
OH 62F, future possible US 62 freeway, eastern end (but technically a stub)
Do you count the stop signs at toll booths? Cause then I could add a bunch to the list...
IL 394 comes to mind with it's free way ending at IL 1
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 28, 2011, 06:01:02 PMthe thing is, it looks like KTA was already using surplus signs (the yellow STOP signs) so maybe they snagged the first available 177 sign from the local Kansas DOT yard.
I think that is the likeliest scenario myself.
Quotealternately, that might be an Oklahoma installation. I do not know where the state line is, but the traffic coming off the Turnpike is likely going to Oklahoma destinations (if not, they would've likely exited earlier) so it makes sense for Oklahoma to put up guidance.
This is also possible. The other side of the road is technically in Oklahoma since the road centerline is (at least in theory) perfectly coincident with the state line. However, my understanding is that the boundary road is maintained by a bistate commission which receives some funding from both Kansas and Oklahoma. And in any case both states have some history of placing signs extraterritorially.
Quote from: rmsandw on October 28, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
IL 394 comes to mind with it's free way ending at IL 1
The freeway ends at Sauk Trail.
Quote from: Steve on October 28, 2011, 07:28:06 PM
Do you count the stop signs at toll booths? Cause then I could add a bunch to the list...
in that case, what about the STOP signs at international boundaries. though likely those do not count... for example, I-15 stops at the Montana/Alberta line, while the Canadian customs facility is several meters ahead of there.
A-955, who was originally part of A-55 end at a stop sign at St-Albert
http://richard3.net/2008/02/28/a-955-lautoroute-qui-nen-sera-jamais-une/
Also the current Eastern end of A-20 at Cacouna end at a stop sign too but not for long, the extension to Trois-Pistoles will open soon. Here a pic from 2009 at http://www.infrastructures.gouv.qc.ca/projets-par-region/projet.asp?id=831
A-410 used to end at a stop sign until the early 1980s when a traffic light replace it but the traffic light itself is replaced with an interchange with the construction of the extension of A-410 to Lennoxville.
In Milwaukee, the old Park East Freeway used to end at stop signs at its stub end before it was torn down. Also, before it was extended, I-794 used to end at a stop sign and the end of the ramp to Carferry Dr.
Quote from: rmsandw on October 28, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
IL 394 comes to mind with it's free way ending at IL 1
That's well south of the end of the freeway at Sauk Trail (which is a traffic light).
Now, the Amstutz Expressway in Waukegan ends at a half SPUI with stop signs.
Quote from: ctsignguy on October 28, 2011, 01:41:38 AM
At one time, Ohio 11 (4-lane freeway) ended at Ohio 531 (2-lane) in eastern Ashtabula with STOP signs and flashing lights...but i haven't been there since 1989, so i do not know how it is done now
20 years later, it's still the same setup - http://g.co/maps/krfxk
Someone might say that World Drive in Disney World is a freeway and is except for the one at grade intersection with Griffin Road, and north of the Magic Kingdom Parking Toll Plaza it is a normal road. Anyway, at is southern end was a stop sign that caused problems which led to the current traffic signal there. Many motorists would be ignorant and continue past the end and resulted in cars taking a dive into a retention pond located across the street spite the gradual drop in speed limit from 50 north of US 192 to eventually 35 mph at I-4. Many engineers felt the lighting is bad at night, but I say hogwash!
I drove World Drive when it first opened years ago, IT WAS AT NIGHT! I am here right now, and my car was around until I traded it back in 2000. I never knew the road either, so those drivers were ignorant or not paying attention to the roads. Anyway, it ended later with many warnings, signs, and flashing beacons over the stop signs along with a wall at the end as well.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 30, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
Someone might say that World Drive in Disney World is a freeway and is except for the one at grade intersection with Griffin Road, and north of the Magic Kingdom Parking Toll Plaza it is a normal road. Anyway, at is southern end was a stop sign that caused problems which led to the current traffic signal there.
Uh... the southern end is not a freeway (as well as Griffin Road, there's a substation access road and the northbound exit to I-4 west).
Quote from: NE2 on October 30, 2011, 09:32:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 30, 2011, 08:29:13 PM
Someone might say that World Drive in Disney World is a freeway and is except for the one at grade intersection with Griffin Road, and north of the Magic Kingdom Parking Toll Plaza it is a normal road. Anyway, at is southern end was a stop sign that caused problems which led to the current traffic signal there.
Uh... the southern end is not a freeway (as well as Griffin Road, there's a substation access road and the northbound exit to I-4 west).
I only mentioned it cause it is only a small thing, those at grade places. It is connected to the freeway portion of World Drive and so in a way is. You got me there, it is not really a freeway, but almost is.
Quote from: NE2 on October 28, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
Quote from: rmsandw on October 28, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
IL 394 comes to mind with it's free way ending at IL 1
The freeway ends at Sauk Trail.
And those are some of the largest stop signs I've ever seen. Are there any larger ones in use anywhere?
The Interstate 490 designation in Cleveland technically ends at the exit ramps for I-77, but the freeway continues east another 1/2 mile to a traffic light intersection at East 55th Street.
Quote from: sandwalk on November 04, 2011, 01:26:37 AM
The Interstate 490 designation in Cleveland technically ends at the exit ramps for I-77, but the freeway continues east another 1/2 mile to a traffic light intersection at East 55th Street.
The straight-line diagrams seem to show that 490 goes all the way to 55th, and the .2-mile markers end at 2.4 just short of 55th. The "End 490" overhead at the I-77 exits is premature.
Quote from: Master son on October 28, 2011, 01:15:15 PM
The north end of I-79 ends at a traffic light, but I guess that doesn't count.
South end of Fayetteville (AR) Bypass on US 71 also ends at a light.
Quote from: PurdueBill on November 05, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: sandwalk on November 04, 2011, 01:26:37 AM
The Interstate 490 designation in Cleveland technically ends at the exit ramps for I-77, but the freeway continues east another 1/2 mile to a traffic light intersection at East 55th Street.
The straight-line diagrams seem to show that 490 goes all the way to 55th, and the .2-mile markers end at 2.4 just short of 55th. The "End 490" overhead at the I-77 exits is premature.
And if memory serves me right, there was a westbound I-490 reassurance shield assembly posted on the side of the road a few hundred feet inside the start of the freeway at East 55th and before I-77.
Quote from: thenetwork on November 05, 2011, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on November 05, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: sandwalk on November 04, 2011, 01:26:37 AM
The Interstate 490 designation in Cleveland technically ends at the exit ramps for I-77, but the freeway continues east another 1/2 mile to a traffic light intersection at East 55th Street.
The straight-line diagrams seem to show that 490 goes all the way to 55th, and the .2-mile markers end at 2.4 just short of 55th. The "End 490" overhead at the I-77 exits is premature.
And if memory serves me right, there was a westbound I-490 reassurance shield assembly posted on the side of the road a few hundred feet inside the start of the freeway at East 55th and before I-77.
Hmmmm.....very interesting!
Another example I can think of is actually from one of the towns I grew up in. The US Route 20 Bypass around the southside of the city of Norwalk, Ohio ends at a stop sign. The eastern terminus of the Bypass merges to one lane and then ends at the old US-20 alignment with a stop sign. The original plan was to have the freeway continue north as an eastern Bypass carrying US Route 250 (maybe tying in to the original proposal of Interstate 80, which I can't verify).
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cleveland+Road+%26+US+20+Norwalk,+Ohio&hl=en&ll=41.249935,-82.587833&spn=0.074469,0.175781&sll=41.235963,-82.599009&sspn=0.037242,0.055189&vpsrc=6&gl=us&hnear=U.S.+20+%26+Cleveland+Rd,+Norwalk,+Huron,+Ohio+44857&t=m&z=13
Quote from: sandwalk on November 05, 2011, 06:43:31 PM
Another example I can think of is actually from one of the towns I grew up in. The US Route 20 Bypass around the southside of the city of Norwalk, Ohio ends at a stop sign. The eastern terminus of the Bypass merges to one lane and then ends at the old US-20 alignment with a stop sign. The original plan was to have the freeway continue north as an eastern Bypass carrying US Route 250 (maybe tying in to the original proposal of Interstate 80, which I can't verify).
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cleveland+Road+%26+US+20+Norwalk,+Ohio&hl=en&ll=41.249935,-82.587833&spn=0.074469,0.175781&sll=41.235963,-82.599009&sspn=0.037242,0.055189&vpsrc=6&gl=us&hnear=U.S.+20+%26+Cleveland+Rd,+Norwalk,+Huron,+Ohio+44857&t=m&z=13
Isn't that proposal still active?
Interstate 110 in Baton Rouge ends at a stop sign on US 61 (Scenic Highway) when heading Northbound. Rather abrupt end too. You go around a sharp curve to the left and BAM stop sign... no "FREEWAY ENDS SIGNS
US 67 Freeway in Arkansas ends at a STOP sign (for now, until it's extended)
Isn't there a merge for traffic heading north on US 61?
The Bluegrass Parkway ends at a stop sign for traffic wishing to turn left onto westbound US 60. Eastbound traffic has a merge into 60 but there's a light a few hundred feet down the road. All the other Kentucky parkways end at traffic lights or interchanges, or transition into a surface route.
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 28, 2011, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: vtk on October 27, 2011, 08:21:10 PMHistorically, the Kansas Turnpike, at the Oklahoma border, right?
Yes. I have confirmed this against the original signing plans for the Turnpike (KTA contract no. SD-1). Southbound traffic saw two STOP signs on either side of the carriageway, with lead-in signing as follows: "STOP 600 FEET," "SPEED LIMIT 35," "TURNPIKE ENDS 1/2 MILE," "35 M.P.H. ZONE AHEAD," and "TURNPIKE ENDS 1 MILE." This signing (which at first blush looks like everything that is necessary to give motorists plenty of warning of the upcoming end of the road) was soon amended after the famous sequence of run-off-the-road accidents in 1956-57.
The Turnpike is paved. In contradistinction, the state line road where the Turnpike ended was then, and still is, unpaved. Considering their respective traffic volumes and states of improvement, it would have been arguably more logical for the STOP signs to face traffic on the state line road, but the Turnpike Authority nevertheless put them on the southbound Turnpike.
Why didn't they force traffic off of the Turnpike at the last southbound exit?
The current freeway bypass of Scottsbluff/Gering (N-71/Heartland Expressway) ends at a STOP sign @US26.
The US 67 freeway used to end at Newport, AR at AR 18 at a stop sign. Not an exit ramp - but the freeway itself ended at an at-grade. That freeway has now been extended and a bridge has been built.
Quote from: NE2 on October 28, 2011, 06:47:13 PM
How many of those mentioned are actually the permanent end of the freeway and not just the end of a ramp?
It wasn't permanent, but the US 67 example that I posted about was the freeway itself that ended, there were no ramps at the time.
Since this thread has drifted into freeways that end at traffic lights, I-630 ends at a traffic light in west Little Rock. A bridge is being built over Shackleford Road and 630 is being extended to the west slightly.
Quote from: bugo on February 24, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 28, 2011, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: vtk on October 27, 2011, 08:21:10 PMHistorically, the Kansas Turnpike, at the Oklahoma border, right?
Yes. I have confirmed this against the original signing plans for the Turnpike (KTA contract no. SD-1). Southbound traffic saw two STOP signs on either side of the carriageway, with lead-in signing as follows: "STOP 600 FEET," "SPEED LIMIT 35," "TURNPIKE ENDS 1/2 MILE," "35 M.P.H. ZONE AHEAD," and "TURNPIKE ENDS 1 MILE." This signing (which at first blush looks like everything that is necessary to give motorists plenty of warning of the upcoming end of the road) was soon amended after the famous sequence of run-off-the-road accidents in 1956-57.
The Turnpike is paved. In contradistinction, the state line road where the Turnpike ended was then, and still is, unpaved. Considering their respective traffic volumes and states of improvement, it would have been arguably more logical for the STOP signs to face traffic on the state line road, but the Turnpike Authority nevertheless put them on the southbound Turnpike.
Why didn't they force traffic off of the Turnpike at the last southbound exit?
They did, eventually, but only after Gov. Milward Simpson of Wyoming ran off the end of the road. I think the idea was that Oklahoma would come through with a turnpike on our side of the border fairly quickly (which was planned but fell through due to the state of Oklahoma's poor credit rating) and start construction at the border. At the very least, I'm guessing KTA expected ODOT's predecessor agency to build an interim continuation to US-177 as soon as possible. In short: KTA grossly overestimated Oklahoma's competence in the matter.
Quote from: achilles765 on February 24, 2012, 06:23:05 PM
Interstate 110 in Baton Rouge ends at a stop sign on US 61 (Scenic Highway) when heading Northbound. Rather abrupt end too. You go around a sharp curve to the left and BAM stop sign... no "FREEWAY ENDS SIGNS
The Stop sign is for those who want to double back into Scotlandville by way of US 61 South. There have been 'freeway ends' signs along I-110 NB after the exit for La 19 (Scotland Ave) exit since 2008.
Just looked at Google Street View. Looks to me like the north end of I-110 has two "Freeway Ends" signs (one on each side) and not one, not two, but three "Stop ahead" signs (one on the left side prior to the split for US 61 North, then one on each side afterwards).
Not knowing anything about the traffic counts, it seems that a stop sign could probably suffice for this movement. Looking at a map, there seems to be little benefit to taking US 61 South from here rather than one of the prior two exits.
The area is rather lightly travelled, so the stop sign does serve its purpose. And I have not lived or driven in BR for a long time so I was not aware of the signs. I do remember there being just one stop ahead sign when I lived there in 2008, though they were resigning alot of 110 before and after I moved away. Most traffic that is still on the freeway at its end is probably heading north on US 61 to St. Francisville or Natchez, so they flow seemlessly into the northbound traffic. Coming from the north there is a flyover for traffic to southbound I-110.
The US 70 freeway in Hot Springs, AR basically ends at a stop sign. There is a ramp from WB 70 to WB 70 but to go from WB 70 to EB 70B you have to stop at a stop sign.
The (then) southern end of I-176 outside Morgantown, Pennsylvania did in 1987. By 1990 there was a light.