Any completely fubared signals in your area?
We have one here that has just been turned on by IDiOT in Plainfield, IL. It's at the south junction of IL-59 (Division St) and US-30 (Joliet St). During construction, Sbd IL-59 did not stop as all traffic from US-30 had to turn right onto Nbd IL-59. Makes sense. Now, after construction is finished, US-30 has two right turn lanes onto IL-59 Nbd with no provision for turning left onto Sbd IL-59. However, in IDiOT's infinite wisdom, Sbd IL-59 now has to come to a stop when the signal is green for US-30. Never mind that US-30 traffic cannot turn left onto Sbd IL-59! Add that to the fact that US-30 traffic cannot turn right on red (no good reason as there is no serious conflict), and that traffic turning from Sbd IL-59 to US-30 had a protected-only left turn signal (why not a permitted left to ease congestion?). :banghead:
Now it backs up worse that it did during the road construction! :banghead: :ded: X-( :verymad:
The "IDiOT" thing has gotten old.
Quote from: NE2 on December 03, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
The "IDiOT" thing has gotten old.
Tough. It's their standard nickname in this state.
The one at 18th Street and Clark Avenue in St. Louis:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.627038,-90.207024&spn=0.003558,0.008256&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=38.627135,-90.206997&panoid=j2x9FJANmS0ZYpArREf1mA&cbp=12,161.29,,0,10.53 (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.627038,-90.207024&spn=0.003558,0.008256&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=38.627135,-90.206997&panoid=j2x9FJANmS0ZYpArREf1mA&cbp=12,161.29,,0,10.53)
This sucker used to take around five minutes to cycle through due to the signals seen on the left for the building on Clark, which would turn green for a while with no traffic exiting the building.
Quote from: Brandon on December 03, 2011, 03:25:02 PM
Any completely fubared signals in your area?
We have one here that has just been turned on by IDiOT in Plainfield, IL. It's at the south junction of IL-59 (Division St) and US-30 (Joliet St). During construction, Sbd IL-59 did not stop as all traffic from US-30 had to turn right onto Nbd IL-59. Makes sense. Now, after construction is finished, US-30 has two right turn lanes onto IL-59 Nbd with no provision for turning left onto Sbd IL-59. However, in IDiOT's infinite wisdom, Sbd IL-59 now has to come to a stop when the signal is green for US-30. Never mind that US-30 traffic cannot turn left onto Sbd IL-59! Add that to the fact that US-30 traffic cannot turn right on red (no good reason as there is no serious conflict), and that traffic turning from Sbd IL-59 to US-30 had a protected-only left turn signal (why not a permitted left to ease congestion?). :banghead:
When I went through there on NB IL 59 recently, the light did not change for SB IL 59 traffic when WB US 30 was given a green. Could have been an issue with the ped crossing that caused both directions of IL 59 to stop.
Two more nominations:
* US 6/IL 83 at I-80/94 - this SPUI seems to have wasted time when only the right turns get a green.
* IL 132 at US 41 (aerial: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.37078,-87.895922&spn=0.001682,0.004128&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.37078,-87.895922&spn=0.001682,0.004128&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6)
Partially bad due to the lack of turn lanes on IL 132 (may be fixed soon when IDOT finally does something about the railroad bridge to the east), but is still poorly timed because the lefts for traffic exiting US 41 don't go at the same time, severely lengthening the cycle length.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 17, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 03, 2011, 03:25:02 PM
Any completely fubared signals in your area?
We have one here that has just been turned on by IDiOT in Plainfield, IL. It's at the south junction of IL-59 (Division St) and US-30 (Joliet St). During construction, Sbd IL-59 did not stop as all traffic from US-30 had to turn right onto Nbd IL-59. Makes sense. Now, after construction is finished, US-30 has two right turn lanes onto IL-59 Nbd with no provision for turning left onto Sbd IL-59. However, in IDiOT's infinite wisdom, Sbd IL-59 now has to come to a stop when the signal is green for US-30. Never mind that US-30 traffic cannot turn left onto Sbd IL-59! Add that to the fact that US-30 traffic cannot turn right on red (no good reason as there is no serious conflict), and that traffic turning from Sbd IL-59 to US-30 had a protected-only left turn signal (why not a permitted left to ease congestion?). :banghead:
When I went through there on NB IL 59 recently, the light did not change for SB IL 59 traffic when WB US 30 was given a green. Could have been an issue with the ped crossing that caused both directions of IL 59 to stop.
Two more nominations:
* US 6/IL 83 at I-80/94 - this SPUI seems to have wasted time when only the right turns get a green.
* IL 132 at US 41 (aerial: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.37078,-87.895922&spn=0.001682,0.004128&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.37078,-87.895922&spn=0.001682,0.004128&t=k&z=19&vpsrc=6)
Partially bad due to the lack of turn lanes on IL 132 (may be fixed soon when IDOT finally does something about the railroad bridge to the east), but is still poorly timed because the lefts for traffic exiting US 41 don't go at the same time, severely lengthening the cycle length.
I go though there everyday to/from work. I think IDOT fixed the signal recently. The five lamp tower for US-30 is gone and replaced with a three lamp r/y/g arrow signal. Now if IDOT can only allow permitted lefts from SB IL-59 to US-30, all will be fixed.
Quote from: Brandon on December 17, 2011, 11:34:51 PMNow if IDOT can only allow permitted lefts from SB IL-59 to US-30, all will be fixed.
Heh. From dealing with IDOT the other day regarding another protected left that local officials were displeased with, I can tell you that the only way that left is changing is either through a major management shake up within D1, or an override by the Illinois legislature.
My old neighborhood in Wichita had (or still has, I never reported it) a stoplight at which pedestrian traffic only got a WALK signal when cross traffic had a green light; when cross traffic had a red light, pedestrian traffic invariably had a DON'T WALK signal. I guess it's only legal to cross the street in front of cars.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 17, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
* US 6/IL 83 at I-80/94 - this SPUI seems to have wasted time when only the right turns get a green.
I seem to recall that right-turners onto Torrence face a "NO TURN ON RED" sign, although whether that's warranted is another issue unrelated to timing. The right phases worked in concert with the left-phases from Torrence the last time I used the interchange, so if they changed it so it doesn't, then yeah, it's pretty wasteful.
Quote from: kphoger on December 18, 2011, 11:29:17 PM
My old neighborhood in Wichita had (or still has, I never reported it) a stoplight at which pedestrian traffic only got a WALK signal when cross traffic had a green light; when cross traffic had a red light, pedestrian traffic invariably had a DON'T WALK signal. I guess it's only legal to cross the street in front of cars.
I just drove by there today. Alas, the signals are fixed.
The cluster of signals at US 23 and US 52 in Portsmouth, Ohio. Specifically, the SB to EB movement. On US 23 SB, if you get stopped at the first signal (US 52 WB) you look ahead at the next signal and see it turn red if it's not already. Then you see it turn green, including a protected left, a few second before the light that has you stopped turns green. By the time you get down the block to the next light, the protected left has turned red. SB through traffic still has green, but left turns are prohibited by a red light and a "no turn on red" sign. (Left turn on red is allowed in Ohio from a one-way street to another one-way street.) Apparently this phase is for NB traffic, which can only turn east at this intersection. After waiting an entire cycle before finally turning left, you're lucky to get through the next couple of lights green.
Also annoying is the new setup at Trabue Rd and Walcutt Rd in Columbus. It's a pair of signals which operate as a single intersection. Let's focus on the WB to NB movement. There's a short and narrow right turn lane. If you get stopped at the first signal, you may notice a green right turn arrow at the next signal, but you can't get to it. In this phase, the eastern intersection is for EB traffic only. WB traffic it's not allowed to proceed to the western intersection and its red light, even to turn right at its green arrow. There's no real conflict, but I guess they don't want WB traffic to suddenly see a red light that they couldn't see from a distance due to the aimed lenses. They should have just realigned the whole thing into a single intersection. That project cheaped out on other places, too. When widening Trabue Rd to 3 lanes west of this intersection, they actually (visibly) incorporated existing driveway aprons into the final roadway surface within the travel lanes!
Right arrow from Marginal Way to Preble St Extension in Portland goes from green to red with no yellow phase.