I nominate US 83 Business in San Ygnacio, Texas: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=27.044765,-99.443854&spn=0.008505,0.016512&gl=us&vpsrc=0&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=27.044575,-99.443784&panoid=y79WnPD__QeJVCDM5y6H5Q&cbp=12,336.44,,0,-3.39
This was never US 83, and there don't seem to be any businesses on it. It should have simply remained Loop 88 (assuming there's a reason for the state maintaining it).
Define "Lowest-quality": lack of services, poor pavement, etc.
Physical quality (e.g. poor pavement, narrow lanes).
US 67 in Northern Warren County Illinois. Pavement is 25 feet but it has no shoulders and 3 sharp turns. It has no visibility at intersections and the condition of the pavement is terrible. Making it worse the sections to the north are up to Illinois standard on all points and include passing lanes. To the south it is a 4 lane divided roadway.
IDOT has the engineering and land aquistion to correct the situation.
More details are in the 67 threads in Ohio Valley
U.S. 191 south of I-40 in Arizona has narrow shoulders and lanes. There are warning signs posted that it isn't plowed at night (Colorado posts signs like this on its lightly traveled state routes).
I remember US 395 between Riley and Valley Falls as being in pretty poor shape, but it's probably been a decade since I've been on it, so things might be better now.
QuoteI nominate US 83 Business in San Ygnacio, Texas
That's incredible. Looks nothing like a state-maintained highway. It's suprising to me that a road this low-standard is allowed onthe state highway system in Texas. Buildings that close, narrow road, no striping. insane. I learned something new fron this topic.
US 250 in West Virginia from Wheeling to Fairmont.....a lot of that road looks like it hadnt been improved since 1928...narrow in too many spots, and full of twisty turns and curves (when i was on it a few years ago, signs noted that speed limits were enforced...my comment was that they needn't worry about that....if anyone goes too fast on THAT road, they will be leaving bits and pieces of their car all over the road....so cite them for littering!)
Part of US 11 in the southern part of Watertown is just a two lane residential street with no pavement marking and all-way stops.
US 101 in Oregon between Lincoln City and Tillamook has a narrow curvy 2-lane original section from the Grapes Of Wrath days. Thankfully someone changed out the ubernarrow bridge on that stretch. Two monster RV's would have had an interesting meeting there...LOL!
Rick
Quote from: ctsignguy on January 02, 2012, 05:48:12 AM
US 250 in West Virginia from Wheeling to Fairmont.....a lot of that road looks like it hadnt been improved since 1928...narrow in too many spots, and full of twisty turns and curves (when i was on it a few years ago, signs noted that speed limits were enforced...my comment was that they needn't worry about that....if anyone goes too fast on THAT road, they will be leaving bits and pieces of their car all over the road....so cite them for littering!)
That's my nomination as well. A wonderful drive, but the roadway geometry is very challenging. And not far away is the Palace of Gold...
Plenty of examples can be found in the Appalachians.
US 421 in Kentucky has some bad spots. For that matter, so does US 460.
US 33, US 119, US 219 and US 50 in West Virginia have some stinker sections. Ditto US 19 and US 52. And US 60.
US 421 in Tennessee east of Bristol to Mountain City is a real clunker.
Having just recently clinched US 119 and US 219 in Pennsylvania, there are some real winner portions on those routes.
In the central part of Kentucky, there are some really bad sections of US 62 and US 68.
And out west, don't forget the Million Dollar Highway, US 550.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 02, 2012, 04:10:14 PM
US 421 in Kentucky has some bad spots. For that matter, so does US 460.
In the central part of Kentucky, there are some really bad sections of US 62 and US 68.
My ex girlfriend originally from Kentucky has told me scary stories about driving there.. Specifically in the area of Buckhorn.. Looks like that's near 421..
Quote from: relaxok on January 02, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
My ex girlfriend originally from Kentucky has told me scary stories about driving there.. Specifically in the area of Buckhorn.. Looks like that's near 421..
That's right in my neck of the woods.
I recall parts of US-59 in Missouri being pretty beat up where it's near I-29, especially around Mound City- places where at one point the road was probably decent but now it's definitely not- for example
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Fmo%2F59%2F118to113%2F6.jpg&hash=a0644b751db3cbaaec5e21797e5d13cc20e436a1)
US 160 in Missouri is really shitty, especially east of US 65.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 02, 2012, 04:10:14 PM
Plenty of examples can be found in the Appalachians.
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And out west, don't forget the Million Dollar Highway, US 550.
Not sure I'd include a highway built through some very challenging terrain in this classification. U.S. 550 goes over two 10,000+ foot summits, and as long as it maintains two distinct lanes - something not all routes through the Rockies do - I'd not consider it a deficient route. I know U.S. 550 is posted 25 mph at spots through the Durango to Ouray segment, but it's probably the best that could be expected through this part of the San Juans. I can't speak to the highways through the Appalachians, as to whether it's economically feasible to upgrade them through the areas cited.
Quote from: bugo on January 03, 2012, 12:53:25 AM
US 160 in Missouri is really shitty, especially east of US 65.
I've done the bit between US 65 and US 67 and quality-wise it was no worse than any other numbered route in the Ozarks, and significantly better than the lettered routes.
Wow, that US 83 Business Route is quite a donkey path.
US 98 where it split off diagonally (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=26.790977,-80.568924&spn=0.261112,0.441513&sll=27.045147,-99.442706&sspn=0.004109,0.006899&vpsrc=6&gl=us&t=m&z=11) from US 441/FL 80 in Palm Beach County (it eventually re-joined US 441 at Canal Point) was very bumpy and potentially unsafe. Basically, the road was a levee that straddled two canals, and was primarily used by trucks hauling sugar cane to the nearby refineries. This road would have to be entirely repaved every 5 years...so occasionally it would be smooth, but the next year I'd travel on it, the road was bumpy as ever. In late-2008, US 98 was rerouted onto US 441, so that old section was designated FL 700.
Quote from: nexus73 on January 02, 2012, 12:37:12 PM
US 101 in Oregon between Lincoln City and Tillamook has a narrow curvy 2-lane original section from the Grapes Of Wrath days. Thankfully someone changed out the ubernarrow bridge on that stretch. Two monster RV's would have had an interesting meeting there...LOL!
Rick
Having driven that stretch of highway relatively recently (August, IIRC), I'll have to disagree with you here. Curvy as all heck, but given the terrain, that's unavoidable. In terms of quality and maintenance though, it's nowhere near the level of the other examples posted here.
Quote from: formulanone on January 04, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
Wow, that US 83 Business Route is quite a donkey path.
US 98 where it split off diagonally (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=26.790977,-80.568924&spn=0.261112,0.441513&sll=27.045147,-99.442706&sspn=0.004109,0.006899&vpsrc=6&gl=us&t=m&z=11) from US 441/FL 80 in Palm Beach County (it eventually re-joined US 441 at Canal Point) was very bumpy and potentially unsafe. Basically, the road was a levee that straddled two canals, and was primarily used by trucks hauling sugar cane to the nearby refineries. This road would have to be entirely repaved every 5 years...so occasionally it would be smooth, but the next year I'd travel on it, the road was bumpy as ever. In late-2008, US 98 was rerouted onto US 441, so that old section was designated FL 700.
Ah yes, old bumpy US 98. That took the cake.
I nominate US 202, in Northern New Jersey where it is county maintained! Poor signage, and some places still the old NJ 2 digit shields with no reflectiveness at night. In Bergen County it seems they forgot its US 202 and just south of the NY State Line, there is no directional shields where US 202 goes from Franklin Turnpike to Ramapo Valley Road. Oh, what about the Rockaway River Bridge in Boonton? A 3 ton weight limit on it.
US 129 in Tennessee is very windy and trucks cannot use it cause the curves are too sharp.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
US 129 in Tennessee is very windy and trucks cannot use it cause the curves are too sharp.
It is called The Dragon for a reason...but the road itself isn't in as bad shape as most of these.
Any U.S. highways that are unpaved, i.e. with a gravel surface?
Quote from: Beltway on January 04, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
Any U.S. highways that are unpaved, i.e. with a gravel surface?
Not anymore. The last one (at least not counting temporary alignments) was apparently US 183 in Nebraska (1967).
Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
I nominate US 202, in Northern New Jersey where it is county maintained! Poor signage, and some places still the old NJ 2 digit shields with no reflectiveness at night. In Bergen County it seems they forgot its US 202 and just south of the NY State Line, there is no directional shields where US 202 goes from Franklin Turnpike to Ramapo Valley Road.
If you were following signs for the route, there is a good chance you would get lost. This could lead to dangerous situations. Somebody needs to contact whoever maintains this road and suggest they place a sign assembly at this point. And if they won't do anything, go to the media.
Quote from: deanej on January 02, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
Part of US 11 in the southern part of Watertown is just a two lane residential street with no pavement marking and all-way stops.
US11's routing through Watertown is extremely confusing and not well-signed at all...heading northbound, following the signs for 11 will take you up Washington Street, across Public Square, and up Mill Street (which is striped, but otherwise a typical residential street)...while heading southbound takes you down LeRay, North Massey, and Holcomb Streets, cutting across on Paddock back to Washington (of which Holcomb and Paddock are the aforementioned streets with no markings and four-way stops).
Many maps have both routings marked as US11...to further add to the confusion, though, Mill Street has a "TO 11" sign on it...even though, if you followed signage heading northbound (or signage for northbound US11 off of NY3 westbound heading into the Public Square), you ARE on US11!
There's no shame in any road having curves in it. :biggrin:
Quote from: Takumi on January 04, 2012, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
US 129 in Tennessee is very windy and trucks cannot use it cause the curves are too sharp.
It is called The Dragon for a reason...but the road itself isn't in as bad shape as most of these.
No, but its winding conditions are worse than most US roads through mountain areas, at least on the east coast.
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Quote from: bugo on January 05, 2012, 01:16:24 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
I nominate US 202, in Northern New Jersey where it is county maintained! Poor signage, and some places still the old NJ 2 digit shields with no reflectiveness at night. In Bergen County it seems they forgot its US 202 and just south of the NY State Line, there is no directional shields where US 202 goes from Franklin Turnpike to Ramapo Valley Road.
If you were following signs for the route, there is a good chance you would get lost. This could lead to dangerous situations. Somebody needs to contact whoever maintains this road and suggest they place a sign assembly at this point. And if they won't do anything, go to the media.
The problem is this part of US 202 never serves long distance travel, nor has it ever. It raises the question why was it part of the US Route system in the first place. Its longer than its parent. I do not think that many people used the whole length of it in the pre-interstate days. It never was a truck route cause two bridges on it had weight restrictions on it in New Jersey, now one does still. The other was re-aligned 30 years ago with a new freeway and a new crossing over the Delaware River. Back in the day a truck could not use US 202 from NJ to PA as there was not even a Truck route there as some US and state routes have truck designations signed.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2012, 01:22:35 AM
The problem is this part of US 202 never serves long distance travel, nor has it ever. It raises the question why was it part of the US Route system in the first place.
Presumably as an inland alternate to US 1.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2012, 01:22:35 AM
Its longer than its parent.
Since when is 627 greater than 2643?
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2012, 01:22:35 AM
I do not think that many people used the whole length of it in the pre-interstate days. It never was a truck route cause two bridges on it had weight restrictions on it in New Jersey, now one does still. The other was re-aligned 30 years ago with a new freeway and a new crossing over the Delaware River. Back in the day a truck could not use US 202 from NJ to PA as there was not even a Truck route there as some US and state routes have truck designations signed.
In 1951, the weight limit on the New Hope-Lambertville Bridge was 12 tons (according to the DRJTBC annual report). That's not exactly a modern truck weight, but it's significantly better than the current 4 ton limit.
Quote from: NE2 on January 08, 2012, 02:30:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2012, 01:22:35 AM
The problem is this part of US 202 never serves long distance travel, nor has it ever. It raises the question why was it part of the US Route system in the first place.
Presumably as an inland alternate to US 1.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2012, 01:22:35 AM
Its longer than its parent.
Since when is 627 greater than 2643?
Quote from: roadman65 on January 08, 2012, 01:22:35 AM
I do not think that many people used the whole length of it in the pre-interstate days. It never was a truck route cause two bridges on it had weight restrictions on it in New Jersey, now one does still. The other was re-aligned 30 years ago with a new freeway and a new crossing over the Delaware River. Back in the day a truck could not use US 202 from NJ to PA as there was not even a Truck route there as some US and state routes have truck designations signed.
In 1951, the weight limit on the New Hope-Lambertville Bridge was 12 tons (according to the DRJTBC annual report). That's not exactly a modern truck weight, but it's significantly better than the current 4 ton limit.
According to Wikopedia it states that for its article on US 202. It brought that up because where it branches off of its parent at Bangor, ME the segment of US 2 is not that long as the length of US 202.
I agree, US 2, with both segments put together is far longer than its child. However, it is longer than the segment it branches from so I see who ever submitted the articles point and in a way he or she is right.
Question... What makes US 2 different from I-76/84/86/etc.? That is to say, why would Wikipedia treat US 2 as a single route, but not the split interstates?
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 08, 2012, 10:53:47 PM
Question... What makes US 2 different from I-76/84/86/etc.? That is to say, why would Wikipedia treat US 2 as a single route, but not the split interstates?
This isn't the answer, but at one point Canada had "TO US 2" signs posted connecting the two routes. (I remember seeing one of these as a kid.)
Actually, I think that is the answer: that US 2 has an implied connection through Canada (specifically what that connection is, isn't important). The split Interstates, on the other hand, don't connect because they don't need to...some other Interstate exists between them, so there's no theoretical continuity of those numbers.
To put it another way, US 2 would be continuous if Canada didn't get in the way, so it's a single route. The split Interstates aren't continuous even though Canada isn't in the way, so they're separate routes.
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 08, 2012, 10:53:47 PM
Question... What makes US 2 different from I-76/84/86/etc.? That is to say, why would Wikipedia treat US 2 as a single route, but not the split interstates?
If you must have reliable sources:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/us2.cfm [the whole thing is written as if it's one route]
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/i76.cfm "A western I-76 is designated between Denver, Colorado, and I-80 in Nebraska near Big Springs, where the duplication of the number would not cause any confusion for motorists."
Quote from: flowmotion on January 08, 2012, 11:32:38 PM
This isn't the answer, but at one point Canada had "TO US 2" signs posted connecting the two routes. (I remember seeing one of these as a kid.)
A photo of that would be almost as brickshitgenic as one of a New England route shield.
Quote from: NE2 on January 09, 2012, 03:13:48 AM
brickshitgenic
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U.S. Route 202
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2008)
U.S. Route 202 marker
U.S. Route 202
Route information
Auxiliary route of US 2
Length: 629.6 mi (1,013.2 km)
Existed: 1935 — present
Major junctions
South end: US 13 / US 40 / DE 141 in New Castle, DE
I-95 from Newport to Wilmington, DE
I-76 / I-276 / Penna. Tpk. in King of Prussia, PA
I-80 in Parsippany, NJ
I-87 / I-287 in Suffern, NY
I-84 / US 6 in Brewster, NY/Danbury, CT
I-90 / US 20 / Mass. Pike in Westfield, MA
I-91 / US 5 in Holyoke, MA
I-89 in Hopkinton, NH
I-93 / I-393 / US 3 / US 4 in Concord, NH
I-95 / US 201 / Maine Tpk. in Augusta, ME
North end:
US 1A Bus. / US 2 / SR 9 / SR 100 in Bangor, ME
Highway system
United States Numbered Highways
List - Bannered - Divided - Replaced
U.S. Route 202 is a highway stretching from Delaware to Maine, also passing through the states of Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire.
The road has borne the number 202 since at least 1935. Before this, sections of the road were designated U.S. Route 122, as it intersected U.S. Route 22. Its current designation is based on its intersection with US 2 in Maine.
This route is considerably longer than the eastern segment of US 2, making it one of several 3-digit US routes to be longer than their parent routes.
The above was copied from Wikopedia, and it states that US 202 is longer than its parent being that it branched off of the eastern segment.
And from the FHWA (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/us2.cfm), which is much closer to being a primary source and therefore more reliable than Wikipedia
QuoteThe route [US-2] is shown in the most recent log published by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials as being 2,643 miles long.
US-202 is less than 2,643 miles long.
Quote from: NE2 on January 09, 2012, 03:13:48 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 08, 2012, 10:53:47 PM
Question... What makes US 2 different from I-76/84/86/etc.? That is to say, why would Wikipedia treat US 2 as a single route, but not the split interstates?
If you must have reliable sources:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/us2.cfm [the whole thing is written as if it's one route]
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/i76.cfm "A western I-76 is designated between Denver, Colorado, and I-80 in Nebraska near Big Springs, where the duplication of the number would not cause any confusion for motorists."
I'm not terribly concerned about Reliable Sources... My question isn't so much
if it's true, but
why it's true. In other words, if Wikipedia treats them differently because the FHWA treats them differently, then why does the FHWA treat them differently?
And for what it's worth, there are other pages on the FHWA site that treat the interstates as single routes. For instance, http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/reports/routefinder/table1.cfm lists total mileage for I-76, including both sections.
I imagine it has something to do with time of establishment and logic. US 2 was all established at the same time and both form a part of the same corridor, albeit with Canada interrupting. You could consider it all the same route. There are very few trips that would involve both I-76s, or I-82s, or I-84s. They merely share a number, and aren't a part of the same route.
^^^Agreed. The two I-76's are no more the same route than the eight or so I-295's are. Established in different places at different times for different purposes, with no intention of being connected either in theory or practice. But US 2 was established all at once as the northernmost major E-W corridor in the US Highway system. If the province of Ontario somehow joined the U.S., then you can bet that US 2 would pass right on through it!
I-76, I-84 and I-86 western segments were established as part of an effort to lose suffixed Interstate routes.
the I-88 western segment was established as part of the loophole to allow 65 on that strech of road that would otherwise have had to be 55 mph under the old NMSL law.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 04, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 04, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
Wow, that US 83 Business Route is quite a donkey path.
US 98 where it split off diagonally (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=26.790977,-80.568924&spn=0.261112,0.441513&sll=27.045147,-99.442706&sspn=0.004109,0.006899&vpsrc=6&gl=us&t=m&z=11) from US 441/FL 80 in Palm Beach County (it eventually re-joined US 441 at Canal Point) was very bumpy and potentially unsafe. Basically, the road was a levee that straddled two canals, and was primarily used by trucks hauling sugar cane to the nearby refineries. This road would have to be entirely repaved every 5 years...so occasionally it would be smooth, but the next year I'd travel on it, the road was bumpy as ever. In late-2008, US 98 was rerouted onto US 441, so that old section was designated FL 700.
Ah yes, old bumpy US 98. That took the cake.
I was going to say US 441 through the same area (from Pahokee to Belle Glade...especially that tight S-Curve), but after looking at it on satellite maps, they've improved it immensely.
Quote from: Master son on January 10, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
I-76, I-84 and I-86 western segments were established as part of an effort to lose suffixed Interstate routes.
Actually, both I-76s were. In it's original setup, the eastern I-80S ran close to the run that the modern eastern I-76 does. Then I-76 was established from Pittsburgh to Philly with I-80S being truncated to the Monroeville turnpike exit as its eastern terminus. When the remainder of I-80S was decommissioned, I-76 was routed onto its current alignment and I-376 was created to go into Pittsburgh.
AFAIK, the western I-80S was switched to I-76 in its entirety.
US-11 north of Hattiesburg, MS looks like any old road going to some run-down industrial neighborhoods. it is poorly signed as it makes its way over a street grid, and is very tough to follow.
it seems like Miss. doesn't care much about it, as the last two signs for it to exist were both 1970s standard colored shields, and now both are gone.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MS/MS19700111i1.jpg)
U.S. 29 through the District of Columbia is effectively impossible to follow with the aid of U.S. 29 shields.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 28, 2012, 11:31:27 AM
US-11 north of Hattiesburg, MS looks like any old road going to some run-down industrial neighborhoods. it is poorly signed as it makes its way over a street grid, and is very tough to follow.
it seems like Miss. doesn't care much about it, as the last two signs for it to exist were both 1970s standard colored shields, and now both are gone.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MS/MS19700111i1.jpg)
That's false - there are plenty of signs up, although old, but not colored-shield old.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 28, 2012, 11:31:27 AM
US-11 north of Hattiesburg, MS looks like any old road going to some run-down industrial neighborhoods. it is poorly signed as it makes its way over a street grid, and is very tough to follow.
it seems like Miss. doesn't care much about it, as the last two signs for it to exist were both 1970s standard colored shields, and now both are gone.
As of 3 years ago, it was adequately signed, though it isn't through Laurel. I think it goes around on 59, but it's poor;ly posted. It seems to disappear and reappear. I know US 84 goes around Laurel, but I've not checked it out thoroughly. I can tell you most of the good motels and restaurants are on the west side of town on MS 15. Everything else looks like it needs to be bulldozed.
Quote from: Steve on March 29, 2012, 09:14:16 PM
That's false - there are plenty of signs up, although old, but not colored-shield old.
I think it's only about a half-mile or so segment which is so poorly signed that you'll get thrown off US-11 if you don't know where to turn. generally, yes, the signage is okay.
it is that segment that had the two colored shields as of 2003 or so. one shield as of 2006.
Quote from: US71 on March 29, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 28, 2012, 11:31:27 AM
US-11 north of Hattiesburg, MS looks like any old road going to some run-down industrial neighborhoods. it is poorly signed as it makes its way over a street grid, and is very tough to follow.
it seems like Miss. doesn't care much about it, as the last two signs for it to exist were both 1970s standard colored shields, and now both are gone.
As of 3 years ago, it was adequately signed, though it isn't through Laurel. I think it goes around on 59, but it's poor;ly posted. It seems to disappear and reappear. I know US 84 goes around Laurel, but I've not checked it out thoroughly. I can tell you most of the good motels and restaurants are on the west side of town on MS 15. Everything else looks like it needs to be bulldozed.
11 does go through Laurel - not only that, but the last blue shield left is (was?) in that particular city. I don't recall how it was signed there, though.
Quote from: Steve on March 30, 2012, 06:35:42 PM
11 does go through Laurel - not only that, but the last blue shield left is (was?) in that particular city. I don't recall how it was signed there, though.
there is a blue cutout in Greenwood.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MS/MS19560491i1.jpg)
the 11 in Laurel, I think, refers to an old alignment.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 30, 2012, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: Steve on March 30, 2012, 06:35:42 PM
11 does go through Laurel - not only that, but the last blue shield left is (was?) in that particular city. I don't recall how it was signed there, though.
there is a blue cutout in Greenwood.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MS/MS19560491i1.jpg)
Last one, too :(
Quote from: US71 on March 30, 2012, 08:13:17 PM
Last one, too :(
last set in Greenwood, but there is a 45 in Corinth as well.
How about U.S. 30 east of Mosier, Oregon to The Dalles - where U.S. 30 takes the original routing rather than multiplexing with I-84? No shoulders (not even a fog line), wooden guardrails and some very narrow lane widths.
At least from Troutdale to Bonneville Dam ODOT had the decency of keeping U.S. 30 multiplexed with I-84, and designating the original route the "Historic Columbia River Highway" (internally numbered highway 100, but only signed by name and not number.)
That's because US30 is the 'de facto' I-84 business route in Oregon. It really has no standards other than 'this was the road before the interstate'.
U.S. 80 between Louisiana Highway 594 and Start, LA. Signs posted every mile that say "Rough Road" and a speed limit of 45 MPH, through a swamp. 1940s era concrete patched over with asphalt. Hardly a center lane either... Took photos and in the 30 minutes I was snapping photos, one car passed.
Then again, I-20 is about a mile south of this section.
Dated the road by the bridge date stamps along the stretch.
Quote from: mcdonaat on April 22, 2012, 04:39:18 AM
U.S. 80 between Louisiana Highway 594 and Start, LA. Signs posted every mile that say "Rough Road" and a speed limit of 45 MPH, through a swamp. 1940s era concrete patched over with asphalt. Hardly a center lane either... Took photos and in the 30 minutes I was snapping photos, one car passed.
Found this in Start (http://g.co/maps/amnb7 , dated April 2009) on Google Street View. Says US 80 to be closed (but of course, you can't make out the dates), was this a good redo or a patch of a patch of a patch?
Quote from: txstateends on April 22, 2012, 07:28:28 AM
Quote from: mcdonaat on April 22, 2012, 04:39:18 AM
U.S. 80 between Louisiana Highway 594 and Start, LA. Signs posted every mile that say "Rough Road" and a speed limit of 45 MPH, through a swamp. 1940s era concrete patched over with asphalt. Hardly a center lane either... Took photos and in the 30 minutes I was snapping photos, one car passed.
Found this in Start (http://g.co/maps/amnb7 , dated April 2009) on Google Street View. Says US 80 to be closed (but of course, you can't make out the dates), was this a good redo or a patch of a patch of a patch?
I think it was just putting up guardrails on the old US 80 bridges. Louisiana has a pretty neat thing going on where they just repair the bridge surface and add guardrails on old roads, and don't actually remove the bridge. Has the highway number on one side of the bridge approach stamped into the bridge, and the feature you're crossing on the other side. Also has the date stamped into the back. It's how I dated the bridges and stuff... But that's just adding guardrails, had to close the entire road because of low traffic and you can complete the project quicker that way.
Quote from: sp_redelectric on April 01, 2012, 01:57:58 AM
How about U.S. 30 east of Mosier, Oregon to The Dalles - where U.S. 30 takes the original routing rather than multiplexing with I-84? No shoulders (not even a fog line), wooden guardrails and some very narrow lane widths.
At least from Troutdale to Bonneville Dam ODOT had the decency of keeping U.S. 30 multiplexed with I-84, and designating the original route the "Historic Columbia River Highway" (internally numbered highway 100, but only signed by name and not number.)
Nope, US 30 no longer overlaps I-84 between Troutdale and Exit 35. US 30 hasn't been signed in the field for years, and I'm talking upwards of a decade at minimum. US 30 is officially on the Historic Highway now, although its shields are the Historic US 30 shields.
US 7 Alt in Burlington, VT seems to be a collection of semi-random local streets that aren't even signed as US highways. At least that's the impression I got from Google street view.
My votes goes to U.S. 190 between Baton Rouge and Krotz Springs La. Before I-10 opened, this was the only way to reach Lafayette or from Baton Rouge. This was a 4 lane highway with only a guard-rail barrier between opposing traffic. (no median except in a few spots) You had to stop in the left traffic lane to make a left turn. It was posted at 70 mph I believe too....You were taking you life in your hands on this section of highway. The pavement was rough as well, slippery in the rain and the bridges narrow.
I haven't been this way in years, I understand that parts have been rebuild to modern standards.
Mark
Quote from: deanej on April 23, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
US 7 Alt in Burlington, VT seems to be a collection of semi-random local streets that aren't even signed as US highways. At least that's the impression I got from Google street view.
They're sure not US highways, but there are a smattering of US 7 trailblazers on both the main and Alt routes. Nothing at all consistent.