Poll
Question:
Who's going to win? Pats or Giants?
Option 1: New York Giants
Option 2: New England Patriots
Option 3: Both Lose
Take your pick! I'm picking number two for Eli with a 27-24 victory. :nod:
As a Colts fan...I'm not particularly looking forward to bring the Pats to Indy...but at least we'll get some money out of it. Giants all the way!
I was hoping for Harbowl. Guess I'll go with the Giants.
Me, my wife, my mother and the family were all rooting for the 49'ers and of course, didn't like the outcome of the home team here in California lost to the Giants in overtime 20-17. Oh well, the Giants/Patriots matchup is a repeat of the 2008 super bowl, though the Ravens appearance is a rematch of 2001 when the Ravens beats the Giants. I find it more ironic the baseball team in S.F. the Giants lost the 2002 (to the L.A./Anaheim Angels) but won the 2010 world series against the Texas Rangers whom lost again-this time to the St. Louis Cardinals.
Any way they can both lose?
The poor Jet fan's worst nightmare for a Super Bowl matchup happening all over again...and only 4 years later!
Well, I am a Giants fan and I hate the Patriots for a couple of reasons (1. They're from Boston and I'm a Yankee fan, 2. Belichick's experiments in amateur filmmaking) so naturally I have a stake in this game.
But speaking purely objectively, I give the Pats about 60-40 odds.
Don't really care about this year's Superbowl. The best result would be if both teams somehow found a way to lose it.
Quote from: Takumi on January 22, 2012, 11:40:05 PM
I was hoping for Harbowl. Guess I'll go with the Giants.
Watch the Pro Bowl this Sunday, then. The coaches whose teams lose in the conference championship games become the Pro Bowl coaches (a relic from the old Playoff Bowl "also-ran game").
I don't care who wins, but I'd like to see them break the record for longest pro football game ever, which was a triple-overtime affair in 1984 between the USFL's LA Express and Michigan Panthers. The Express won 27—21 on a touchdown 3:33 into the third overtime. Steve Young and Bobby Hebert both played in that game.
Eh, I'll probably be watching the Rolex 24 Sunday instead, unless the game comes on late in the day.
Turns out they amended the Pro Bowl coaching rule effective in 2009 when they moved the game up by two weeks. Now the coaching staffs come from the highest-seeded team in each conference to lose in the divisional round of the playoffs (second round)–so, this year, the coaching staffs come from Houston and Green Bay. Apparently the rationale is that with the Pro Bowl coming just one week after the conference championship games, it wouldn't be fair to the coaches of the teams who lose in the conference championships to make them coach totally different teams (playing under modified rules, too) on only one week's notice.
Quote from: Takumi on January 24, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Eh, I'll probably be watching the Rolex 24 Sunday instead, unless the game comes on late in the day.
I think the Super Bowl always starts at 6:18pm Eastern or something like that. So unless some gawd-awful accidents occur during the race, they won't overlap.
I don't really care much for either team, probably would just prefer the Giants win because they have 8 losses. One for the so-called record books (where is that big set of books, anyhow...Las Vegas?), I say.
Quote from: formulanone on January 24, 2012, 12:46:24 PM
Quote from: Takumi on January 24, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Eh, I'll probably be watching the Rolex 24 Sunday instead, unless the game comes on late in the day.
I think the Super Bowl always starts at 6:18pm Eastern or something like that. So unless some gawd-awful accidents occur during the race, they won't overlap.
I don't really care much for either team, probably would just prefer the Giants win because they have 8 losses. One for the so-called record books (where is that big set of books, anyhow...Las Vegas?), I say.
No they finished the regular season 9-7.
Quote from: formulanone on January 24, 2012, 12:46:24 PM
Quote from: Takumi on January 24, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Eh, I'll probably be watching the Rolex 24 Sunday instead, unless the game comes on late in the day.
I think the Super Bowl always starts at 6:18pm Eastern or something like that. So unless some gawd-awful accidents occur during the race, they won't overlap.
I don't really care much for either team, probably would just prefer the Giants win because they have 8 losses. One for the so-called record books (where is that big set of books, anyhow...Las Vegas?), I say.
I believe he was referring to the Pro Bowl, which airs this Sunday. See my comment above in response to his comment about the "Harbowl."
Yep. The Rolex 24 is this weekend.
It doesn't require much effort to figure out my vote at all for those that know me.
Both lose, because I like voting for impossible outcomes. ;)
Quote from: Darkchylde on January 23, 2012, 10:12:43 PM
Don't really care about this year's Superbowl. The best result would be if both teams somehow found a way to lose it.
Most agreed. I could care less about two teams from the northeast.
Turns out I'll be working during the game anyway. Had the Ravens been appearing in it, I might have, you know, cared about such a thing.
Quote from: Takumi on February 03, 2012, 12:07:37 AM
Turns out I'll be working during the game anyway. Had the Ravens been appearing in it, I might have, you know, cared about such a thing.
My current plans are to be doing homework, not really that much different overall.
I'll be watching out of obligation as an American sports fan. Even though the teams playing are almost the worst possible combo for me. My least favorite AFC team against my 3rd least favorite NFC team. (The Giants take a back seat only to the Bears and Cowboys in that order, as of February 2012.) (And if the Giants win, they'll be # -2.)
I think the only people really excited for this matchup are Giants fans, Pats fans, and ESPN.
Quote from: Takumi on February 03, 2012, 11:42:58 PM
I think the only people really excited for this matchup are Giants fans, Pats fans, and ESPN.
Personally I'm excited. I just know that there is no way this game can live up to the game four years ago. I'll be very hyper if the Patriots lose whether I'm doing school or not.
This game is nothing like four years ago. However, it will finally make all the Jet fans (who are rooting for the PATRIOTS) shut up about who is the real New York team (I thought that would've happened once they were beat in week 16...).
Quote from: Roadmaestro95 on February 04, 2012, 09:39:29 AM
This game is nothing like four years ago. However, it will finally make all the Jet fans (who are rooting for the PATRIOTS)
???? Only an idiot Giants fan would think that. (And the name calling stops here.)
It sucks that Gronkowski won't be 100% for the game; hopefully he'll still be a factor. Go Pats.
Quote from: Steve on February 04, 2012, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: Roadmaestro95 on February 04, 2012, 09:39:29 AM
This game is nothing like four years ago. However, it will finally make all the Jet fans (who are rooting for the PATRIOTS)
???? Only an idiot Giants fan would think that. (And the name calling stops here.)
Actually no...its been like that around at my school...I don't understand it either
I've been around Downtown Indianapolis the last few days and it has been completely crazy out there with positive reviews by mostly everyone about Indianapolis (other than the obligatory there's no beaches or mountains or pretty scenery and its cold, if you call 50 degrees cold.) As for in the city, nearly everyone has become Giants fan which is odd since the Patriots are the home team. This may be one of the few times where the home team gets more boos at a game than the "away" team. I wonder if there has been another instance where the people of the host city were so one-sided as to which team they support.
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
As for in the city, nearly everyone has become Giants fan which is odd since the Patriots are the home team. This may be one of the few times where the home team gets more boos at a game than the "away" team. I wonder if there has been another instance where the people of the host city were so one-sided as to which team they support.
I don't think the team designated the "home" team in the Super Bowl matters a bit. The "visitor" gets to call the coin flip and "home" gets their choice of jersey color, but otherwise, it's irrelevant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl#Home_team_designation
The "visitor" record in the game is slightly better than "home", at 25-20.
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
I wonder if there has been another instance where the people of the host city were so one-sided as to which team they support.
Ever seen the Yankees play in Tampa Bay?
I couldn't care less about the actual game except for the fourth quarter, but I did want to see the commercials. One that really impressed me was the "Clint Eastwood: Halftime in America" commercial by Chrysler.
It appears America has finally progressed from morning to halftime. ;-)
Yep, that commercial was the only reason I watched any part of the Super Bowl. Totally worth it- Chrysler definitely knows how to pull the right heart strings
My favorite was the Toyota "reinvented" commercial. I absolutely agreed with every concept they had.
Did anyone notice MIA flip off America? Or no one gave a damn about that half time show...I sadly suffered through it. Where's U2?
yep. I noticed it - I also noticed NBC "whiffed" on trying to censor it.
Quote from: Roadmaestro95 on February 06, 2012, 04:22:48 AM
Did anyone notice MIA flip off America? Or no one gave a damn about that half time show...I sadly suffered through it. Where's U2?
That halftime show left my ears feeling "Like a Virgin": Bloody and sore.
Sounds like I missed a pretty good game. Ah well, 3 weeks until Daytona.
I liked the NFL Evolution commercial showing the league morphing through the decades.
I missed the game, but just read that the Giants had won. I really wasn't rooting for either anyway, so you can count me among the ever-growing "who cares?" crowd.
BTW, any chance you saw the controversial post-apocalyptic Chevy truck commercial that Ford wanted taken off the air?
Quote from: Henry on February 06, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
I missed the game, but just read that the Giants had won. I really wasn't rooting for either anyway, so you can count me among the ever-growing "who cares?" crowd.
BTW, any chance you saw the controversial post-apocalyptic Chevy truck commercial that Ford wanted taken off the air?
Much ado about nothing by Ford. I wondered if Hostess chipped in for the cost of the ad because Twinkies were prominent.
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 06, 2012, 02:50:47 PM
Much ado about nothing by Ford. I wondered if Hostess chipped in for the cost of the ad because Twinkies were prominent.
It seems like there were quite a few cross-promotions. The GE ad which explained they built the turbines which generated the power to produce Budweiser was prominent among them.
Quote from: Steve on February 05, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
I wonder if there has been another instance where the people of the host city were so one-sided as to which team they support.
Ever seen the Yankees play in Tampa Bay?
Or the
Packers play at
Tampa Bay? For the last few years when they were in the same division as the
Packers, the
Buccaneers even went as far as to require that anyone who bought a seat to their annual home game vs
Green Bay also buy a seat to a pre-season game, this to cut down on the number of
Packer fans who were by then making up about 3/4 of the fans in the stadium.
Anyways, as for SB XLVI, that was absolutely *HORRIBLE* clock management on the part of the
Giants in the last two minutes of the game! If I were the
Giants' brain trust, I would have started taking knees after that play that got them that first down on the 12 or 13 and then try that point-blank field goal to win the game with 3 seconds left. That TD play with one minute left and one of the league's best two-minute guys as QB of the
Patriots? INEXCUSABLE!
The
Giants were very LUCKY to have won it!
Mike
Quote from: PAHighways on February 06, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
I liked the NFL Evolution commercial showing the league morphing through the decades.
I liked that ad, too.
BTW, that running back wearing number 3 was Tony Canadeo ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Canadeo ), one of the greats in the history of the
Green Bay Packers and one of the team's five retired numbers, the others being 14 (Don Hutson), 15 (Bart Starr), 66 (Ray Nitshcke) and 92 (Reggie White).
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on February 07, 2012, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: Steve on February 05, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
I wonder if there has been another instance where the people of the host city were so one-sided as to which team they support.
Ever seen the Yankees play in Tampa Bay?
Or the Packers play at Tampa Bay? For the last few years when they were in the same division as the Packers, the Buccaneers even went as far as to require that anyone who bought a seat to their annual home game vs Green Bay also buy a seat to a pre-season game, this to cut down on the number of Packer fans who were by then making up about 3/4 of the fans in the stadium.
Anyways, as for SB XLVI, that was absolutely *HORRIBLE* clock management on the part of the Giants in the last two minutes of the game! If I were the Giants' brain trust, I would have started taking knees after that play that got them that first down on the 12 or 13 and then try that point-blank field goal to win the game with 3 seconds left. That TD play with one minute left and one of the league's best two-minute guys as QB of the Patriots? INEXCUSABLE!
The Giants were very LUCKY to have won it!
Mike
Call them lucky all you want as long as you call them winners!
Shout out to Jason Garret for icing his own kicker to help make it happen
Quote from: mgk920 on February 07, 2012, 01:35:41 PM
Or the Packers play at Tampa Bay? For the last few years when they were in the same division as the Packers, the Buccaneers even went as far as to require that anyone who bought a seat to their annual home game vs Green Bay also buy a seat to a pre-season game, this to cut down on the number of Packer fans who were by then making up about 3/4 of the fans in the stadium.
Anyways, as for SB XLVI, that was absolutely *HORRIBLE* clock management on the part of the Giants in the last two minutes of the game! If I were the Giants' brain trust, I would have started taking knees after that play that got them that first down on the 12 or 13 and then try that point-blank field goal to win the game with 3 seconds left. That TD play with one minute left and one of the league's best two-minute guys as QB of the Patriots? INEXCUSABLE!
The Giants were very LUCKY to have won it!
Mike
Point blank last second field goals can be missed ... see Packers in NFC championship game.
Patriots were lucky they didn't get beat worse ... they gave up a safety on their first play from scrimmage, and they kicked off to the Giants, who then made it 9-0. 12 minutes into the game the Pats had only that one play from scrimmage. Very bad way to start a Super Bowl!
Giants wanted to stop inches from the line, giving them time for two downs to try and score - it's not the team's poor time management, it's the guy who fell over's fault alone. Pats let the guy have a clean run (in a surprising move!), and then tried to push him over the line (though they didn't get there before he fell over) on that down, but they would surely make it incredibly difficult if there wasn't enough time to get back to the other end?
I know it was a mistake from their plan, and could have cost them the game if the Pats' Hail Mary play at the end had worked, but how much more would they have kicked themselves if they did stop to make it 3rd and inches, and then didn't score then - maybe losing yardage, and then not getting the last second kick on the 4th down? It's certainly not the case that they would have scored - they reckoned (and rightly so) that it was more likely.that they would score than the Pats would get to the other end and score in the time remaining (and the Pats made the same call - they would have had next-to-no chance with under 30 seconds). However when faced with a certain chance to go 5 points up, with the odds of the other team scoring in 57 seconds still low, its a much more difficult choice than a few seconds before. The odds were still against the Pats coming back, so it wasn't lucky that the Giants won it, despite their mistake - it would have been lucky for the Pats to win it with 57 seconds to get from one end of the field to the other and successfully pull off a Hail Mary play (which after all are considered "chuck it and pray" plays that rarely come off).
Quote from: Beltway on February 07, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Point blank last second field goals can be missed ... see Packers in NFC championship game.
Which is why it's so utterly annoying to hear all the post-game bloviating...how is Bradshaw
not going for six points, and forcing the other team to score a TD
not a better strategy? Especially when everyone forgot that the Ravens were a chip shot away from sending the AFC championship game away into OT? Or that half-centimeter that changed the trajectory of a wayward bounce during a landed punt in the NFC championship game?
Seriously, I think the talking heads of sports media have blown the minutiae of the game out of proportion at times, citing small-ball stuff like the A's SaberMetrics...a team that hasn't exactly participated in a World Series in 20+ years.
Quote from: Zmapper on February 05, 2012, 10:11:21 PM
I couldn't care less about the actual game except for the fourth quarter, but I did want to see the commercials. One that really impressed me was the "Clint Eastwood: Halftime in America" commercial by Chrysler.
It appears America has finally progressed from morning to halftime. ;-)
Yeah! :clap:
And it wasn't the only very good commercial then I liked, here 2 other ones then I enjoyed. Apologies to Ford fans on the forum for posting the 2nd ad. :paranoid:
Quote from: formulanone on February 07, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: Beltway on February 07, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
Point blank last second field goals can be missed ... see Packers in NFC championship game.
Which is why it's so utterly annoying to hear all the post-game bloviating...how is Bradshaw not going for six points, and forcing the other team to score a TD not a better strategy? Especially when everyone forgot that the Ravens were a chip shot away from sending the AFC championship game away into OT? Or that half-centimeter that changed the trajectory of a wayward bounce during a landed punt in the NFC championship game?
Seriously, I think the talking heads of sports media have blown the minutiae of the game out of proportion at times, citing small-ball stuff like the A's SaberMetrics...a team that hasn't exactly participated in a World Series in 20+ years.
Plus Brady showed obvious signs of injury after an earlier sack, and had been nowhere near as effective in passing as before that in the game. Definitively would have been challenging for him to score a TD in 57 seconds with only one timeout. If he had 2:00, it would have been more feasible.