any examples, anywhere in the US? I cannot think of any.
some of the old toll roads would qualify before they were given interstate numbers - for example, Ohio Turnpike connecting to Pennsylvania Turnpike.
What about US 29 at the VA/NC border?
US-75 at the Dallas/Oklahoma border
US-23 at Ohio/Michigan border
US-22 at Ohio/Pennsylvania border
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
US-75 at the Dallas/Oklahoma border
US-23 at Ohio/Michigan border
US-22 at Ohio/Pennsylvania border
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
thanks! I should've remembered US-23, as I have driven that. I always think it should be renumbered I-475.
The US 15 freeway in northern PA crosses the border in NY. Of course, this will no longer apply once the I-99 shields go up.
And US 22 crosses from Steubenville, OH to Weirton, WV and then into PA.
And then there's the Mon Valley expressway, PA/WV 43.
US 1 across the Delaware River into Trenton, NJ.
US 31 west of South Bend, IN into Michigan
US 78 (Future I-22) between Alabama and Mississippi
US 80 crossing into Alabama from Columbus, GA
US 395 north of Reno crossing into CA
Hutchinson River Parkway, NY to Merrit Parkway, CT (CT 15)
US 24 a.k.a. Fort to Port IN/OH
Purchase Parkway/US 45W-51 KY/TN (future I-69)
US 3 MA/NH
RI 24/MA 24 near Fall River, MA
US 36 from St. Joseph, MO into KS
Garden State Parkway which runs up into NY
NJ/NY 440 at the Outerbridge Crossing
unless it is already signed as I-86, NY 17 at Sayre, PA, Waverly, NY
MA 146 heads into RI
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
the under-construction US 30 heading to Fort Wayne as well would also count if I'm not mistaken
will the future Illiana Expressway fit the definition?
CT Route 15/Merritt Parkway/Hutchinson River Parkway: CT-NY Border.
Although it's a toll road; the northern stretch of the Garden State Parkway crosses into NY State.
Might be a stretch, but I'd think NJ 495 and the Lincoln Tunnel would qualify.
Quote from: TheStranger on February 20, 2012, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
the under-construction US 30 heading to Fort Wayne as well would also count if I'm not mistaken
will the future Illiana Expressway fit the definition?
Is US-30 going to be a full freeway in both states? IIRC, it's a 65-mph road but not a freeway on the Ohio side.
US 3 between MA and NH.
US 93 now with the Hoover Dam Bypass. It has short freeway segments on both sides of the river in AZ and NV.
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 20, 2012, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
the under-construction US 30 heading to Fort Wayne as well would also count if I'm not mistaken
will the future Illiana Expressway fit the definition?
Is US-30 going to be a full freeway in both states? IIRC, it's a 65-mph road but not a freeway on the Ohio side.
Here is the official website for the Illiana Tollway.
http://www.illianacorridor.org/
Quote from: TheStranger on February 20, 2012, 04:05:50 PM
the under-construction US 30 heading to Fort Wayne as well would also count if I'm not mistaken
What construction? As far as I know, it's an at-grade expressway on both sides of the state line (IN 60 MPH, OH 65 MPH). I'm pretty sure Ohio considers it "done", with no intention of a full freeway upgrade, and I hadn't heard of upgrade plans in Indiana either. (Then again, I haven't been that way in several months...)
US 30, US 35, and US 50 could each be considered freeways for some reasonable distance across the OH—WV border.
Garden State Parkway and Palisades Interstate Parkway, NJ—NY aren't Interstates, are they? And then there's the Merritt Parkway (CT 15 / NY ?) NY—CT. How about NY—NJ 495?
I'm pretty sure the Hoover Dam Bypass (US 93) AZ—NV would count.
US-75 Texas-Oklahoma. Although the freeway portion in Oklahoma is pretty short.
There's also DC 295/MD 201/MD 295. The US 50 freeway also crosses the MD/DC border right there (unsigned I-595 ends at the Beltway).
US 271 AR-OK.
Quote from: mightyace on February 20, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
US 395 north of Reno crossing into CA
Not quite. There is a median crossing on US 395 no more than two-tenths of a mile into CA. The crossing is used for a frontage/access road on the west side of the highway. There are 2-3 similar crossovers all the way up to CA 70/Hallelujah Junction (although the junction itself is freeway grade) before 395 becomes a two-lane highway.
^^^
Oh, well, that's what I get for relying on modern Rand McNally road atlas.
Quote from: Takumi on February 20, 2012, 03:10:57 PM
What about US 29 at the VA/NC border?
Yes, at least 15 miles on either side of the border.
There was some question as to whether the temporary interchange ramps at the Elizabeth Street Extension near the southern end of the Danville Expressway, met the definition of a freeway, but recently all of the accell/decel lanes have been extended into freeway caliber lengths.
US 52 between WV and OH. The bridge is two lanes, but it's a limited-access freeway south to I-64, and north of the river it merges onto OH 7 via a trumpet interchange and continues as a four lane with no at-grades for several hundred feet.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 20, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
US 52 between WV and OH. The bridge is two lanes, but it's a limited-access freeway south to I-64, and north of the river it merges onto OH 7 via a trumpet interchange and continues as a four lane with no at-grades for several hundred feet.
Several hundred feet does not a freeway make... plus it's really a different freeway on the other side. US 30 is a better example.
Quote from: mightyace on February 20, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
And US 22 crosses from Steubenville, OH to Weirton, WV and then into PA.
US 1 across the Delaware River into Trenton, NJ.
Hutchinson River Parkway, NY to Merrit Parkway, CT (CT 15)
Purchase Parkway/US 45W-51 KY/TN (future I-69)
US 3 MA/NH
RI 24/MA 24 near Fall River, MA
Garden State Parkway which runs up into NY
NJ/NY 440 at the Outerbridge Crossing
unless it is already signed as I-86, NY 17 at Sayre, PA, Waverly, NY
MA 146 heads into RI
You said all of the ones I was going to say! :banghead:
Quote from: Steve on February 20, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 20, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
US 52 between WV and OH. The bridge is two lanes, but it's a limited-access freeway south to I-64, and north of the river it merges onto OH 7 via a trumpet interchange and continues as a four lane with no at-grades for several hundred feet.
Several hundred feet does not a freeway make... plus it's really a different freeway on the other side. US 30 is a better example.
US 30 is a freeway into West Virginia for about a mile at most.
Quote from: vtk on February 20, 2012, 05:33:01 PM
What construction? As far as I know, it's an at-grade expressway on both sides of the state line (IN 60 MPH, OH 65 MPH). I'm pretty sure Ohio considers it "done", with no intention of a full freeway upgrade, and I hadn't heard of upgrade plans in Indiana either. (Then again, I haven't been that way in several months
)
No plans for US 30 to become a freeway in Indiana, anywhere in the state. And to stay on topic, I submit US 50 from Vincennes, Indiana to Lawrenceville, Illinois as an example.
US 59-Loop 151-AR 245 in Texarkana. Not all of 245 will be I-49.
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
US-75 at the Dallas/Oklahoma border
US-23 at Ohio/Michigan border
US-22 at Ohio/Pennsylvania border
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
And Dallas/Oklahoma Border makes me laugh. It probably won't be long until Sherman/Denison is considered DFW metroplex and everything gets swallowed northward to the OK border
A small segment of the George Washington Memorial Parkway lies on Columbia Island in the Potomac, so the road therefore crosses from Virginia to DC and back again. The line is unsigned and most motorists (probably most residents of the DC area) have no idea that (a) it's an island or (b) it's in DC.
US-15 from Pennsylvania to New York was mentioned. It's also a freeway where it crosses from Maryland into Pennsylvania (though it becomes a non-freeway very quickly on the Maryland side).
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
US-24 was opened at the line October 2009, but it's only an expressway in Ohio.
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned US 31 (IN-MI).
Also:
-US 15 (NY-PA)
-US 61/151 (IA-WI)
-(Proposed - MN 36-WI 64)
-US 34 (IA-IL)
-US 36 (KS-MO)
Mike
If something crosses a state line, it's interstate by definition.
MA 146 - RI 146
Quote from: roadman on February 21, 2012, 02:15:59 PM
MA 146 - RI 146
Had just thought about that one, as well as two others:
WV/PA 43
US 25 between North and South Carolina.
Quote from: rawmustard on February 21, 2012, 09:17:37 AM
Quote from: realjd on February 20, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
When complete, US-24 at the Ohio/Indiana border
US-24 was opened at the line October 2009, but it's only an expressway in Ohio.
Technically, I think it was only designed as an expressway in Indiana too, and by luck it has almost no at-grade intersections. If the speed limit is 60MPH, that would be evidence that INDOT doesn't consider it a freeway.
Uh, guys? I believe this thread was supposed to be sarcastic.
(making fun of this one (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6189.0))
nah, it was a serious inquiry.
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 20, 2012, 11:35:30 PM
And to stay on topic, I submit US 50 from Vincennes, Indiana to Lawrenceville, Illinois as an example.
I was about to call bullshit, then realized I haven't been east of Lawrenceville on 50, which means I have only driven the non-freeway portion.
Quote from: mgk920 on February 21, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
-US 34 (IA-IL)
Barely. It's only got one interchange in Illinois (Gulfport).
Quote from: vtk on February 21, 2012, 05:19:30 PM
Technically, I think it was only designed as an expressway in Indiana too, and by luck it has almost no at-grade intersections. If the speed limit is 60MPH, that would be evidence that INDOT doesn't consider it a freeway.
US 24 in Indiana is being built basically as a freeway with the exception of the Interstate 469 interchange. The 60 MPH speed limit thing might only be temporary since the current freeway standard goes for only a mile, so there isn't much time to get to 65. We'll see after they open the rest of the highway what they make the speed limit.
Quote from: roadfro on February 20, 2012, 09:29:28 PM
Quote from: mightyace on February 20, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
US 395 north of Reno crossing into CA
Not quite. There is a median crossing on US 395 no more than two-tenths of a mile into CA. The crossing is used for a frontage/access road on the west side of the highway. There are 2-3 similar crossovers all the way up to CA 70/Hallelujah Junction (although the junction itself is freeway grade) before 395 becomes a two-lane highway.
I guess it depends on where you consider the "end" to be. I say that it does cross the state line as a freeway but the freeway ends at the intersection.
US 23 crosses the Michigan-Ohio border, though only for a short distance on the Ohio side before it duplexes with I-475 in the Toledo area.
US 80 is also a freeway crossing the Alabama-Georgia border.
US 202 from NJ into PA.
This one is kind of cheating but US 20/75 at the Nebraska/Iowa state line. Heading east in Nebraska, US 20 becomes I-129. US 75 merges with I-129/US 20. The roads cross into Iowa, I-129 ends and US 20/75 continue on thier own as a freeway for a few miles.
Quote from: AZDude on March 02, 2012, 11:31:57 PM
This one is kind of cheating but US 20/75 at the Nebraska/Iowa state line. Heading east in Nebraska, US 20 becomes I-129. US 75 merges with I-129/US 20. The roads cross into Iowa, I-129 ends and US 20/75 continue on thier own as a freeway for a few miles.
I-129 doesn't end at the state line. It ends at I-29 in Iowa.
Quote from: jas on February 29, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
US 202 from NJ into PA.
That one's a bit of a stretch, at least on the PA side.
Had the 202 highway continued from PA 32 south as originally planned, then it would
possibly count;
but its Delaware River crossing is indeed a toll facility (though one-way) so that nulls it. I believe the OP's asking about non-Interstate FREEWAYS that cross state lines with NO toll facilities at its borders.
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 03, 2012, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: jas on February 29, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
US 202 from NJ into PA.
That one's a bit of a stretch, at least on the PA side.
Had the 202 highway continued from PA 32 south as originally planned, then it would possibly count; but its Delaware River crossing is indeed a toll facility (though one-way) so that nulls it. I believe the OP's asking about non-Interstate FREEWAYS that cross state lines with NO toll facilities at its borders.
A freeway can be tolled. Read up on your definitions.
US 2 between Duluth, MN & Superior, WI
Quote from: Mark68 on March 06, 2012, 04:52:17 AM
US 2 between Duluth, MN & Superior, WI
IMHO, that one (the US 2 Bong Bridge) is on the 'iffy' side, as US 2's interchange at I-35 includes an intersection left turn (MN-bound US 2 to SB I-35). Yes, OTOH, its Wisconsin approach is a very short true freeway that has(d?) aspirations of becoming something much more. The bridge also includes a walkway/bicycle path that is separated from the Wisconsin-bound side by a standard Jersey barrier, but that does not, in my mind, detract from freeway standards.
Mike
US12 Wisconsin to Illinois...oh wait...so close!!!
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I-129 doesn't end at the state line. It ends at I-29 in Iowa.
No kidding.
Quote from: AZDude on March 10, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
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I-129 doesn't end at the state line. It ends at I-29 in Iowa.
No kidding.
I don't think the OP was saying that I-129 ends at I-29. I think he was saying the route crosses the river into Iowa and continues to I-29, where I-129 ends but the freeway continues. At least that's the way I interpreted it.
That is exactly what I was saying.
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 21, 2012, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: vtk on February 21, 2012, 05:19:30 PM
Technically, I think it was only designed as an expressway in Indiana too, and by luck it has almost no at-grade intersections. If the speed limit is 60MPH, that would be evidence that INDOT doesn't consider it a freeway.
US 24 in Indiana is being built basically as a freeway with the exception of the Interstate 469 interchange. The 60 MPH speed limit thing might only be temporary since the current freeway standard goes for only a mile, so there isn't much time to get to 65. We'll see after they open the rest of the highway what they make the speed limit.
I posted a picture a while back on the new Indiana section of the Fort to Port showing the 60 MPH speed limit signs - not sure why. I believe the US 24 interchange at Bruick Road is a "low level interchange" so am not sure that one is up to interstate standards, but it seems to be a real freeway to me from Bruick to the Ohio line (two interchanges and many grade separations).
US 231 sort of enters Indiana as a freeway as well - albeit only with one interchange at SR 66. Kentucky is upgrading parts of US 231 near Owensboro, but I am not sure if it will be a freeway up to the Ohio River.
Quote from: mukade on March 17, 2012, 11:09:48 PM
US 231 sort of enters Indiana as a freeway as well - albeit only with one interchange at SR 66. Kentucky is upgrading parts of US 231 near Owensboro, but I am not sure if it will be a freeway up to the Ohio River.
No. There are at-grades (for the access to the farmlands) between US 231 and US 60, and on the combined route between the intersection and the start of the new construction.