There are a few spots in Connecticut where the town has kept an old route number around after the parent route changed. This is great for historical roadgeeks.
- Lebanon: Old Route 89 along CT 289 (http://g.co/maps/bw5ts) (number changed from 89 to 289 in 1964)
- Harwinton: Old Route 72 along CT 4 (http://g.co/maps/zdjak) (changed 1963)
- Litchfield: Old Conn. 25 along US 202 (http://g.co/maps/gb4dh) (changed 1974)
- Middletown: Old Route 6A along CT 66 (http://g.co/maps/sgw26) (changed 1968)
The town of Preston has an interesting name for Old Shetucket Turnpike, near CT 165 and CT 164: "Route 165A". It makes a bit of sense, but the state has never used that term.
I know I've come across cases where A was renumbered B at some point, and an old alignment bypassed before the change is known as Old Route B.
Bridegwater, NJ with CR 614 being called Route 28 to this day spite it being truncated ages and ages ago!
The street signs erected by Bridgewater show it as RT 28.
Old Highway 84 in Sussex County, NJ has its newer alignment as NJ and NY 284.
One of the main drags through O'Fallon, IL, is still named Highway 50, even though US-50 is routed along the interstate now. It confused the heck out of me when I first had to make a delivery there; I knew Highway 50 must refer to some other road, but I didn't know which road. Fortunately, I found the place all right, after one wrong turn (if only I'd had a smart phone at the time).
I recall some rural street blades at gravel road intersections along US-400 far east of Wichita still referring to the road as Highway 96, even though K-96 has been truncated at the east end of Wichita; however, I don't know if people's addresses stayed the same or not.
The "Historic Route 163" signs with Route 163 in a US shield along the Cabrillo Freeway in San Diego...when it was 1948-1969 US 395.
(Interestingly, the most historic US 395 routing in San Diego, from 1934-1948? THAT's now...modern I-15 through Murphy Canyon (which was Route 103 from 1964-1969), and the 1960s Fairmount Avenue freeway being discussed in this thread - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6368.0 - !!)
Two from the same general area of Washington (and the same current highway)...
There's an Old Highway 410 near Elma, WA, along what is now US 12.
There's also an Old Highway 9 near Ground Mound, WA, along what is now US 12 (1968-), but was SR 8 before that (1964-68). You have to go back two designations before you find PSH 9 in the area.
Old US 66 along... well everywhere (:
Quote from: Steve on March 23, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
Old US 66 along... well everywhere (:
That's not so confusing in Illinois since they usually have the old route 66 marked with the brown shields. In Chicagoland, while Historic US 66 is still signed along the old route, no one ever refers to Ogden Ave or Joliet Rd as US 66 in Romeoville, Countryside, Berwyn and Cicero.
Steve's just rubbing it in about his upcoming trip. :-D
One example that has caused considerable confusion: in the north Minneapolis suburbs of Blaine, Mounds View, Coon Rapids and adjacent towns, former U.S. 10 from I-35W northwest was replaced by a new section of freeway about 1-1/2 miles north of the original alignment. The original alignment was a divided highway with at-grade signalized intersections and businesses along frontage roads. When the new freeway was opened, the original road (which did not have a true "name" other than "Highway 10") became posted as both Ramsey and Anoka County Road 10, and was just called "County Road 10". Thus, there were two parallel "Highway 10s" within two miles of each other.
One woman blogging in a Twin Cities paper came up with something like "Old 10, Blue 10 [referring to the county route markers], White 10, New 10" to help keep it straight.
Why didn't the cities and counties involved anticipate the confusion and agree upon an actual name for the old highway as well as a different county designation, such as County 110?
Also in the Twin Cities, the "Crosstown Highway" name has held on for Highway 62 even though that name has not been posted since the state took the road over about 1989. If you say "Crosstown" or "Crosstown Commons", almost any resident of the Twin Cities will know where that is. Problem arises when residents tell an out of town visitor, "take the Crosstown off 35W".
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 23, 2012, 11:22:28 PM
One example that has caused considerable confusion: in the north Minneapolis suburbs of Blaine, Mounds View, Coon Rapids and adjacent towns, former U.S. 10 from I-35W northwest was replaced by a new section of freeway about 1-1/2 miles north of the original alignment. The original alignment was a divided highway with at-grade signalized intersections and businesses along frontage roads. When the new freeway was opened, the original road (which did not have a true "name" other than "Highway 10") became posted as both Ramsey and Anoka County Road 10, and was just called "County Road 10". Thus, there were two parallel "Highway 10s" within two miles of each other.
One woman blogging in a Twin Cities paper came up with something like "Old 10, Blue 10 [referring to the county route markers], White 10, New 10" to help keep it straight.
Why didn't the cities and counties involved anticipate the confusion and agree upon an actual name for the old highway as well as a different county designation, such as County 110?
Counties do that too often. Although not posted, Nassau CR 27 overlays former NY 27. CR 3 is old NY 3 in some ol' county up near the western end, and that one IS posted.
Onondaga county signs former NY 57 as CR 57, though they otherwise don't sign county routes (and that route isn't even officially CR 57).
Throughout mid-Michigan, old US-27 is still referred to as US-27.
I believe there is even a old stray NY 57 still posted in the Liverpool area or in the industrial district of Syracuse, if I remember correctly.
Quote from: xcellntbuy on March 24, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
I believe there is even a old stray NY 57 still posted in the Liverpool area or in the industrial district of Syracuse, if I remember correctly.
It was installed in the mid-2000s when CR 57 was widened in the area. Here's a picture form Wikipedia:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F8%2F8f%2FNY_57_overhead_sign_at_Thruway.jpg&hash=d3677a7edb504571d381b3d6faab58619c7799f2)
Quote from: pianocello on March 24, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
Throughout mid-Michigan, old US-27 is still referred to as US-27.
In Northern Michigan, it's called just "Old 27". The replacement freeways are now either I-75 or US 127, of course.
The former surface route for M-76 is also called "Old 76", even though M-76's freeway is now I-75.
Near K.I. Sawyer AFB, MI, there is a secondary county road with the name Old CR 553. The roadway that was CR 553 is now M-553. The number didn't change, but the type of roadway did.
West of Cedar, WI, a road is Old Highway 10. Before that highway became part of US 2, it was State Trunk Highway 10. http://g.co/maps/2ksah (http://g.co/maps/2ksah)
In Avondale, MO (near Kansas City), there is a road called - and still signed by the town as - "Hwy. 10" which was formerly part of MO 10 until that portion of the highway was decommissioned (I believe in the 1960s).
You also asked about incorrect local highway names. In Quebec, there's a "Route 138A" west of Ormstown, but it's just named that by the town.
Northern Alabama has an Old US 31, which is local street name, but signed as AL 251.
in Lassen County, CA, there is this street blade:
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/101671.jpg)
this refers to the 1909-1964 legislative routing ... the road was bear 7 from 1934-1935, before becoming US-395 until it was bypassed by the current US-395.
^ Thanks...I had seen the "Old Hwy Route 29" and had been wondering about the origins of that.
"OLD HWY 24" in Little Elm TX.
OLD HWY 24 is off of FM 720 in Little Elm, Texas at Lewisville Lake.
SH 24 was relocated north to what is now US 380 in 1951. Old maps say that the old alignment became SH 24T after that. FM 720 "functionally replaced" SH 24T in this area when Lewisvile Lake was completed in 1955. At this time SH 24T was eliminated. SH 24 became US 380 in 1971.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=33.162622,-96.959431&spn=0.005982,0.012531&t=m&z=17 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=33.162622,-96.959431&spn=0.005982,0.012531&t=m&z=17)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1209.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc395%2FBrian5561%2F82209018.jpg&hash=7d2c10e8a383745b6ed066b2566d6abd63e623b4)
Sorry it's sideways, it was vertical in my computer, when I uploaded it it turned sideways. I rotated it vertical and saved it in Photobucket, but it still displays this way. I've never had this problem before.
I don't know if this counts, but...
Culturally in my neck of the woods (northern Harford County, MD), the locals orally refer to the newer routing of MD Route 23 (East-West Highway) as "New 23" and the old stretch (West Jarrettsville Road) "Old 23". The most amusing part? The reroute happened in 1955, long before like 80% of the population moved into the area. (New 23 is the only part of the Outer Beltway - or the East-West Scenic Freeway - that was built.)
Quote from: builder_J on March 25, 2012, 05:17:00 AM
In Avondale, MO (near Kansas City), there is a road called - and still signed by the town as - "Hwy. 10" which was formerly part of MO 10 until that portion of the highway was decommissioned (I believe in the 1960s).
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u126/bugo348/Missouri%2010/
In Whitehouse, NJ the old highway through town was called Old Highway 28 because at one time US 22 was NJ 28 west of Bridgewater, NJ. US 22 bypassing Whitehouse was designated post construction of this. The last time I was there in 09,though, the sign was gone.
In my neck of the woods, Louisiana Highway 7 was replaced by US 371... I don't mean overlapped, I mean LA 7 is deleted completely. Nevertheless, old alignments are called Old Hwy 7, parish roads are PR 7, and bridges have LA 7 stamped into them.
We also stamp the highway names in the bridges, so if it was built before the highway numbers were changed in 1955, it still retains "State Route No. xx." the best is State Route C-1474, with State Route No. 99 1/2 Close behind
Quote from: mcdonaat on April 23, 2012, 05:56:51 AM
We also stamp the highway names in the bridges, so if it was built before the highway numbers were changed in 1955, it still retains "State Route No. xx." the best is State Route C-1474, with State Route No. 99 1/2 Close behind
now this I'd like to see pictures of! especially the 99 1/2.
I once found a bridge with a painted shield. I believe this is a current alignment of LA-1 but it might not be.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/LA/LA19290901i1.jpg)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 23, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
Quote from: mcdonaat on April 23, 2012, 05:56:51 AM
We also stamp the highway names in the bridges, so if it was built before the highway numbers were changed in 1955, it still retains "State Route No. xx." the best is State Route C-1474, with State Route No. 99 1/2 Close behind
now this I'd like to see pictures of! especially the 99 1/2.
I once found a bridge with a painted shield. I believe this is a current alignment of LA-1 but it might not be.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/LA/LA19290901i1.jpg)
Where did ya find that at? I only know of one painted bridge, along LA 182, where the end cap is painted US 90 in big letters. I'll post a few photos on the forum, I think it's only a Louisiana thing though.
Somewhere near Thibodaux. I believe on LA-1 but don't quote me on that.
close to LA-182, so maybe some scouring in the area of the one you know about will reveal others.
have you ever seen an engraved shield? As opposed to the rectangle with "US 90" or whatnot in it? I could've sworn I spotted one once in the rear-view mirror but attempting to find one later was not fruitful.
I have seen an engraved ALABAMA US 72 in a 1980s photo of a railroad overpass.
I haven't seen any engraved shields anywhere. In other states, the U.S. route is labeled on bridges, but never any state or Interstate highways.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbackroadinglouisiana.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F12%2F100_1200.jpg&hash=326844be17b43cc009ca930e6347561c613fda2d)
An old State Route 13 marker, engraved into a bridge.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbackroadinglouisiana.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F12%2F100_1179.jpg&hash=27d016d859fab20c09b14ead9f8d33b3705b97f1)
State Route 152, known today as LA 19
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbackroadinglouisiana.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F12%2F100_1118.jpg&hash=07fa2e1d8d59c7b5d2fa9b0243ef0bf003c5c8b2)
Route 200, also known as LA 34.
Those are just a few that I have on hand... US 80 has a good number of 1920's bridges between Rayville and Delhi. I've attached a link to the only US 90 bridge that has the stamp (that I know of) along La. 182. Looks like the DOTD came through and actually repainted the "end cap"
http://showmystreet.com/0ho8tl_-1i6epm_j7d_10 (http://showmystreet.com/0ho8tl_-1i6epm_j7d_10)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 23, 2012, 05:01:07 PM
Somewhere near Thibodaux. I believe on LA-1 but don't quote me on that.
close to LA-182, so maybe some scouring in the area of the one you know about will reveal others.
have you ever seen an engraved shield? As opposed to the rectangle with "US 90" or whatnot in it? I could've sworn I spotted one once in the rear-view mirror but attempting to find one later was not fruitful.
I have seen an engraved ALABAMA US 72 in a 1980s photo of a railroad overpass.
There used to be an ALABAMA US 78 shield embossed in an overpass in Birmingham just north of I-20, but I understand that it's gone now.
Quote from: bugo on April 24, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
There used to be an ALABAMA US 78 shield embossed in an overpass in Birmingham just north of I-20, but I understand that it's gone now.
we're probably thinking about the same one. 78 sounds right.
OH 41 has one or two alignments south of Springfield called Old 70 Rd. OH 41 was of course OH 70 before Ohio renumbered its I-duplicate state routes in the 60s. Before that event, the road was realigned to eliminate crossings with a railroad which at the time carried significant passenger traffic.
Near Townsend, TN there is an Old 71 or Old 73 or something across the creek from the current US highway (321?). I don't have a map handy at the moment...
Quote from: vtk on April 28, 2012, 07:11:24 AM
Near Townsend, TN there is an Old 71 or Old 73 or something across the creek from the current US highway (321?). I don't have a map handy at the moment...
Ohio renumbered 73 in the 60s in anticipation of I-73? how long ago has this silly I-73 idea been going on??
Tennessee. And it's still 71 or 73, just not signed as such.
Quote from: NE2 on April 28, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
Tennessee. And it's still 71 or 73, just not signed as such.
ah, I totally failed to catch the "TN". I looked up Gatlinburg real fast, as I know 73 was signed there at least at one point in time (we have a photo of an old triangle shield on the gallery) - a brief glance at Street View showed no 71 or 73 shields at the expected intersection locations. or 441s, for that matter. or any signage at all???
Tennessee has Florida- and Alabama-style hidden routes.
Quote from: NE2 on April 28, 2012, 11:06:40 AM
Tennessee has Florida- and Alabama-style hidden routes.
what strikes me as odd is that 441 is treated as a "hidden route" there, too? I just looked at my photos from Feb '10 and saw a modern 73/441 gantry. I didn't photograph downtown Gatlinburg, though.
Gatlinburg's all hickster, so don't expect good signage. There is 441 reassurance (sans 321) on Google heading north away from the central intersection. There's also a wonky NPS-maintained bypass that's only signed as "Gatlinburg By-Pass".
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 28, 2012, 11:26:29 AM
strikes me as odd is that 441 is treated as a "hidden route" there, too? I just looked at my photos from Feb '10 and saw a modern 73/441 gantry. I didn't photograph downtown Gatlinburg, though.
Probably only hidden in the national park. Just as you leave the park and enter the city limits northbound, there used to be a 441/73 assembly. TN 73 was the signed route heading east out of town until US 321 was extended. It was also extended over a local road (Wears Valley) from Pigeon Forge to Townsend.
South of Garden City, Kansas, one of the roads was officially christened "Old 83" when Finney County installed its E911 system. No other former routes were named as such. Old 50 from Garden City to Holcomb was named "Jones Ave." which makes sense since it's Buffalo Jones Ave. in Garden City and Jones Ave. in Holcomb.
Also in TN there are Old Hwy 99 and Old Hwy 20 roads along US 412. Of course they are actually the hidden designation for US 412 but they were old roads for the former state highways prior to the US 412 designation.
More MN examples:
Old MN 66 near Isle (MN 66 I was renumbered as part of MN 27; a second unrelated MN 66 has also come and gone)
The street name of former MN 7 east of MN 100 to Minnetonka Blvd/Lake St in St. Louis Park is still officially "Highway 7" (or at least the streets fronting it)
Thought there are still some "Old Highway 102" segments in the UP
I believe it's been fixed now, but this GSV photo from 2013 shows that IA 149/old US 63 north of Ottumwa was still marked as "HIGHWAY 63" on green blade signage - well after 63 was taken off the road when the eastern bypass was constructed. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0757758,-92.4098512,3a,15y,118.41h,85.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sm-CP0kHQhgjcEVlQGOk9iw!2e0!5s20130801T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Incidentally, further south along old US 63 in Ottumwa proper - namely, at the intersection with Court Street near the north end of town - the sign on the traffic signal mast arm still read "US 63" as late as 2016 (although it had been changed to read "IA 149/Bus. 63" by 2019, the next time the Street View car passed through the area). [GSV link: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0522783,-92.4099443,3a,75y,258.8h,103.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stxoIdbMBq1nar_AVJfrWNw!2e0!5s20161001T000000!7i13312!8i6656]
There is an "Old NC 75" that runs from Oxford to Butner via Stem. NC 75 hasn't existed there since around 1930. On top of that, NC 75 was actually replaced by US 15 on that stretch before being turned to a secondary road..
Quote from: fillup420 on November 14, 2020, 06:48:11 AM
There is an "Old NC 75" that runs from Oxford to Butner via Stem. NC 75 hasn't existed there since around 1930. On top of that, NC 75 was actually replaced by US 15 on that stretch before being turned to a secondary road..
Same way, "Old NC 10" runs east of Hillsborough to Durham. This used to be signed as "Old No. 10" (old number ten) before the road was straightened and had clearances raised about 8 years ago. It runs roughly parallel to I-85 and unfortunately has become a favorite bypass route for "eastbound" traffic during the frequent shutdowns that occur from wrecks along this narrow section of original Interstate. But the clearances are still only 12 feet, so I have witnessed a good number of "canopener" incidents at the State University Railroad trestle, which ironically is the old reference name for UNC Chapel Hill.
Similarly, there is a "West Ten Road" that runs from Exit 161 near Efland west to Mebane, and this one is truly parallel to the Interstate (I-85/I-40). I'm pretty sure that both roads pre-date US-70 which has always been located north of the North Carolina Rail Road.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on November 14, 2020, 09:33:56 AM
Quote from: fillup420 on November 14, 2020, 06:48:11 AM
There is an "Old NC 75" that runs from Oxford to Butner via Stem. NC 75 hasn't existed there since around 1930. On top of that, NC 75 was actually replaced by US 15 on that stretch before being turned to a secondary road..
Same way, "Old NC 10" runs east of Hillsborough to Durham. This used to be signed as "Old No. 10" (old number ten) before the road was straightened and had clearances raised about 8 years ago. It runs roughly parallel to I-85 and unfortunately has become a favorite bypass route for "eastbound" traffic during the frequent shutdowns that occur from wrecks along this narrow section of original Interstate. But the clearances are still only 12 feet, so I have witnessed a good number of "canopener" incidents at the State University Railroad trestle, which ironically is the old reference name for UNC Chapel Hill.
Similarly, there is a "West Ten Road" that runs from Exit 161 near Efland west to Mebane, and this one is truly parallel to the Interstate (I-85/I-40). I'm pretty sure that both roads pre-date US-70 which has always been located north of the North Carolina Rail Road.
In both cases, NC 10 was relocated onto current US 70/US 70 Business before NC 10 was renumbered to US 70. There are at least three more "Old NC 10" roads in Burke and McDowell counties, with the same history.
http://roadgeek.filpus.org/OldNC10.html
Would "Old Route 24" in NJ be another example?
I was curious as a kid about Watertown Plank Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0457496,-88.0385073,3a,75y,116.72h,61.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMJ4tgB-FCk-LaBSqOpulJw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMJ4tgB-FCk-LaBSqOpulJw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D327.82587%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-US) when we visited Milwaukee. It was apparently once a real plank road (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plank_road) from Milwaukee to Watertown (or at least in that direction). I had never heard of a plank road then, and it was one of the first geeky transportation topics I remember researching back in grade school. Watertown Plank Road hasn't been a plank road since at least WWII so has been incorrectly named for a long time.
Old Highway 49 in Coulterville, CA.
Quote from: fillup420 on November 14, 2020, 06:48:11 AM
There is an "Old NC 75" that runs from Oxford to Butner via Stem. NC 75 hasn't existed there since around 1930. On top of that, NC 75 was actually replaced by US 15 on that stretch before being turned to a secondary road..
US 15 never used the Old NC 75 rout
Quote from: Dirt Roads on November 14, 2020, 09:33:56 AM
Quote from: fillup420 on November 14, 2020, 06:48:11 AM
There is an "Old NC 75" that runs from Oxford to Butner via Stem. NC 75 hasn't existed there since around 1930. On top of that, NC 75 was actually replaced by US 15 on that stretch before being turned to a secondary road..
Same way, "Old NC 10" runs east of Hillsborough to Durham. This used to be signed as "Old No. 10" (old number ten) before the road was straightened and had clearances raised about 8 years ago. It runs roughly parallel to I-85 and unfortunately has become a favorite bypass route for "eastbound" traffic during the frequent shutdowns that occur from wrecks along this narrow section of original Interstate. But the clearances are still only 12 feet, so I have witnessed a good number of "canopener" incidents at the State University Railroad trestle, which ironically is the old reference name for UNC Chapel Hill.
Similarly, there is a "West Ten Road" that runs from Exit 161 near Efland west to Mebane, and this one is truly parallel to the Interstate (I-85/I-40). I'm pretty sure that both roads pre-date US-70 which has always been located north of the North Carolina Rail Road.
US 15 never used the Old NC 75 routing - June 1924 Official clearly shows NC 75 moved.
The July 1926 map also confirms NC 10 was north of the railroad continuously from Haw River to Durham.
Quote from: Mapmikey on November 14, 2020, 02:59:47 PM
The July 1926 map also confirms NC 10 was north of the railroad continuously from Haw River to Durham.
There's also a really old example of an "incorrect road name" here in northern Orange County, North Carolina. Folks here have called SR-1340 by the name "High Rock Road" for generations, so the road was signed as such when 911 street signs were installed in the late-1990s. But a county map from 1880 shows "High Rock Road" passing by Harmony Church and ending at Lynch Store, which is consistent with the current route of SR-1341 that is named "Harmony Church Road".
County Highway 442 just east of Lawrence, Kansas is universally referred to as Old K-10 by locals.
There is an Old Lebanon Dirt Road outside of Lebanon, TN and it is not a dirt road.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1954553,-86.5660613,3a,75y,279.27h,78.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIUbJXATuIH50h6D-qkDd7w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DIUbJXATuIH50h6D-qkDd7w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D324.85574%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1954553,-86.5660613,3a,75y,279.27h,78.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIUbJXATuIH50h6D-qkDd7w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DIUbJXATuIH50h6D-qkDd7w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D324.85574%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Quote from: dfilpus on November 14, 2020, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on November 14, 2020, 09:33:56 AM
Quote from: fillup420 on November 14, 2020, 06:48:11 AM
There is an "Old NC 75" that runs from Oxford to Butner via Stem. NC 75 hasn't existed there since around 1930. On top of that, NC 75 was actually replaced by US 15 on that stretch before being turned to a secondary road..
Same way, "Old NC 10" runs east of Hillsborough to Durham. This used to be signed as "Old No. 10" (old number ten) before the road was straightened and had clearances raised about 8 years ago. It runs roughly parallel to I-85 and unfortunately has become a favorite bypass route for "eastbound" traffic during the frequent shutdowns that occur from wrecks along this narrow section of original Interstate. But the clearances are still only 12 feet, so I have witnessed a good number of "canopener" incidents at the State University Railroad trestle, which ironically is the old reference name for UNC Chapel Hill.
Similarly, there is a "West Ten Road" that runs from Exit 161 near Efland west to Mebane, and this one is truly parallel to the Interstate (I-85/I-40). I'm pretty sure that both roads pre-date US-70 which has always been located north of the North Carolina Rail Road.
In both cases, NC 10 was relocated onto current US 70/US 70 Business before NC 10 was renumbered to US 70. There are at least three more "Old NC 10" roads in Burke and McDowell counties, with the same history.
http://roadgeek.filpus.org/OldNC10.html
Yea I just moved to Hillsborough and I love the hidden history of the highways around here. I live near the intersection of NC 86 and old NC 10.
Quote from: Dirt Roads on November 14, 2020, 09:33:56 AM
... "Old NC 10" runs east of Hillsborough to Durham. This used to be signed as "Old No. 10" (old number ten) before the road was straightened and had clearances raised about 8 years ago. It runs roughly parallel to I-85 and unfortunately has become a favorite bypass route for "eastbound" traffic during the frequent shutdowns that occur from wrecks along this narrow section of original Interstate. But the clearances are still only 12 feet, so I have witnessed a good number of "canopener" incidents at the State University Railroad trestle, which ironically is the old reference name for UNC Chapel Hill.
Not sure why I didn't notice sooner, but Norfolk Southern has removed the "canopener" devices from the State University Railroad trestle over "Old Number Ten". They were working on the northern abutment and underslope a few weeks ago. Ever since the clearance was raised (ergo, road lowered) the wooden headers were lengthened and each side of the bridge were equipped with yellow-painted I-beams that served as "canopeners" and kept trucks from hitting the bridge. On at least five different occasions, I have seen the eastbound "canopened" knocked off the edge of the trestle (and in one case, severely damaged the truck cab).
One time (about 4 years ago), I came through westbound while the offending UPS truck was trying to back up all the way back to the University Station Road intersection. Somebody had already pulled the I-beam off the roadway into the ditch, but the Highway Patrol had not yet arrived on the scene. I'm sure it's too heavy for my tractor, so I would guess that a wrecker was called. And yes, every case I know of was related to wrecks closing lanes of I-85 northbound. Oh yeah, the westbound I-beam "canopener" has spent most of the last year in the same ditch.
And I should correct my previous post, as the clearance is marked as 12'-6".
We can go back even further. The new forest park just west of Hillsborough (managed by the Town, but at the far edge of the extraterritorial jurisdiction) is misnamed Kings Highway Park. The old main east-west road through town is still known as King Street, and it predates NC-10 by 150 years or more. A map from 1770 shows the road named "Trading Path" actually heading due west out of Hillsboro and turning southwest towards Salisbury (didn't check to see how far it goes). Much of the old King Street was stubbed off, and the old North Carolina Military Institute was constructed at the western end (along the west side of Barracks Road). The new Kings Highway Park is due west just over the hill. Looking at the old map, I would assume that the old King Street kept going west and zig-zagged down the hill down to a ford across the Eno River.
Quote from: vtk on April 28, 2012, 07:11:24 AM
OH 41 has one or two alignments south of Springfield called Old 70 Rd. OH 41 was of course OH 70 before Ohio renumbered its I-duplicate state routes in the 60s. Before that event, the road was realigned to eliminate crossings with a railroad which at the time carried significant passenger traffic.
Another Ohio example, for the same reason, is Old SR 74. About the same time that I-74 was added to Ohio, old SR 74 was replaced by a new 4-laner, which is OH-32. OH-32 and old SR 74 cross each other several times.