Is there any pctures that have Interstate shelids on mile markers? I remember seeing some pictures of them in that one thread,
I-95 in Virginia south of MM 50 has markers every .2 miles with the shield on it.
Oh ok. Do you know what they look like?
Quote from: stormwatch7721 on April 11, 2012, 08:33:33 PM
Oh ok. Do you know what they look like?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3239.msg141329#msg141329
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You mean like these on I-76 east of Denver?
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Yeah and the WV ones. Takumi, Nice marker btw.
Illinois State Toll Highway Authority:
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http://www.google.com/search?q=interstate%20mile%20marker&tbm=isch
On I-76/77 in Akron, new installs--green for whole (xx.0) miles and blue for other 2/10 miles.
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Older style still very common in Ohio and Indiana, among other places:
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These have a trailing ".0" for all 2/10 mile posts, including those at whole miles. This one is at the southern end of I-469 in Indiana, obviously. (Notwithstanding an "END I-469" assembly a good half-mile west of there on the eastbound/southbound side at a signal at the GM plant.)
One more special bonus that I found after I posted--a twofer that is now gone.
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The blue 2/10 markers on the 76/77 overlap in Akron used to show both shields but only 76's direction. Of course, this wasn't really correct but I guess someone really wanted to acknowledge 77 being there. The ones shown in my post above have replaced these. I liked the wide digits in the shields, fwiw.
ODOT did do the same type of thing on the I-271/I-480 overlap, showing both shields when they should have shown only 271 since the stretch uses 271's mileage and exit numbers. It doesn't help that there is a duplicate exit number involved (Exit 23 for OH 14 off of both I-271/480 and I-480 alone, only a few miles apart). They should have only shown 271 shields on the mileposts.
PurdueBill, I like the I-76 milemaker on the right, way better than that blue one.
Quote from: corco on April 11, 2012, 08:49:01 PM
You mean like these on I-76 east of Denver?
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Denver, North Carolina? :-D :-D :-D :-D
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Missouri also does US Highways
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And some State Highways
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I happen to like these! They're kind of like secondary reassurance markers that let you know what highway you're on, as well as the distance.
Quote from: Henry on April 12, 2012, 10:38:06 AM
I happen to like these! They're kind of like secondary reassurance markers that let you know what highway you're on, as well as the distance.
That's the purpose. These are designed to make it easier to report your location in case of an emergency. "Help, 911, I have been involved a wreck on I-999 going south at milepost 49.8. Please send an ambulance and the police."
Quote from: hbelkins on April 12, 2012, 10:43:28 AM
That's the purpose. These are designed to make it easier to report your location in case of an emergency. "Help, 911, I have been involved a wreck on I-999 going south at milepost 49.8. Please send an ambulance and the police."
indeed, much more helpful than California's intermittently-signed postmile system.
I've had to call 911 several times (usually to report an obstruction in the road) and the operator seemed to raise an eyebrow when I said "let's see, the last bridge was San Luis Obispo county postmile 39.86, and the fridge was maybe a half-mile past that, so, call it 39.3 or so?"
ODOT's started using them on OR 217 as well, every 1/2 mile.
Good pics, everyone.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 12, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 12, 2012, 10:43:28 AM
That's the purpose. These are designed to make it easier to report your location in case of an emergency. "Help, 911, I have been involved a wreck on I-999 going south at milepost 49.8. Please send an ambulance and the police."
indeed, much more helpful than California's intermittently-signed postmile system.
I've had to call 911 several times (usually to report an obstruction in the road) and the operator seemed to raise an eyebrow when I said "let's see, the last bridge was San Luis Obispo county postmile 39.86, and the fridge was maybe a half-mile past that, so, call it 39.3 or so?"
Of course that is much more a function Caltrans being the only serious user of the postmile system. Even if postmiles were posted as frequently as other states post mile markers, the postmiles still look like gibberish to the untrained eye, so you'll still be the only one using them (and the 911 dispatcher still as unfamiliar with them).
I'm diggin' it, Missouri. Are there any other states that do U.S. and/or state routes on mile markers?
Quote from: F350 on April 13, 2012, 03:21:22 AM
Are there any other states that do U.S. and/or state routes on mile markers?
NH... especially NH 101 from Manchester east to Hampton Beach. I think there are smaller ones posted every mile on some of the major 2-lane state and US highways.
North Carolina recently opened part of the new Goldsboro bypass for US 70, but signed it NC 44, because it does not connect to US 70 yet. The mile markers have NC 44 shields on them. Since the NC 44 designation is temporary, when the road is redesignated to US 70, these mile markers will need to be redone.
Quote from: dfilpus on April 13, 2012, 11:53:34 AM
North Carolina recently opened part of the new Goldsboro bypass for US 70, but signed it NC 44, because it does not connect to US 70 yet. The mile markers have NC 44 shields on them. Since the NC 44 designation is temporary, when the road is redesignated to US 70, these mile markers will need to be redone.
As will those east of Goldsboro! I, for one, am surprised that I-85 has the same mileage throughout the state, after its reroute around Greensboro.
México relies almost solely on milepost route shields. I think I've seen a total of two (or maybe one) stand-alone reassurance markers in México, having driven more than 900 km of its roadways in five states (plus an additional 750 km or so by bus in a sixth state). I must say, I find it no more difficult to navigate by mileposts than by stand-alones. In fact, given México's lax standards on signing route numbers, I actually find the mileposts to be a little more accurate.
Quote from: Henry on April 13, 2012, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: dfilpus on April 13, 2012, 11:53:34 AM
North Carolina recently opened part of the new Goldsboro bypass for US 70, but signed it NC 44, because it does not connect to US 70 yet. The mile markers have NC 44 shields on them. Since the NC 44 designation is temporary, when the road is redesignated to US 70, these mile markers will need to be redone.
As will those east of Goldsboro! I, for one, am surprised that I-85 has the same mileage throughout the state, after its reroute around Greensboro.
The NC 44 mile markers use US 70 mileage, so just the shield will have to be redone there. NC has been known to fudge mile markers when building bypasses. I think it did fudge I 85 around Greensboro.
Massachusetts has them too...markers every 0.2 miles with a shield replica marker every mile.
A lot of states do that. These mile posts are referred to as "Enhanced Reference Location Signs" (D10-4, D10-5) in the MUTCD (page 296 of the 2009 edition). Of the states I've visited, NY, NH and MA do that.
WI does it in only in Milwaukee and Madison areas as far as I know. IL does it only on the tollways for now.
Looks like Louisiana's pushing to post them statewide. I've seen them personally on the Northshore, seen pics of them across the Lake, and I've heard of them going up in other parts of the state as well.
Here's a shot of one I personally went out and snapped (I'm still getting the rain out of my hair months later.)
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Quote from: shadyjay on April 13, 2012, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: F350 on April 13, 2012, 03:21:22 AM
Are there any other states that do U.S. and/or state routes on mile markers?
NH... especially NH 101 from Manchester east to Hampton Beach. I think there are smaller ones posted every mile on some of the major 2-lane state and US highways.
MassDOT recently erected similar signs along MA 128 north/east of I-95 in Peabody. I don't know whether the entire Peabody-Gloucester stretch of 128 has been completely covered as of yet. It's worth noting that the 128 mile marker numbering at I-95 starts at Mile 37.2 (the distance from there to the Canton interchange) as opposed to Mile 0. Previous overpass/underpass-mounted mile marker signs (from the mid-80s)
had the 128 numbering starting 0 at the US 1 (EXIT 44 off I-95) interchange. This convention predated the 1988 opening of the I-95/MA 128 interchange (EXIT 45). Remnants of these mile markers (which were calibrated to the 3rd decimal place) still remain along this road and others.
One other good thing about these shield milemarkers is the fact that you do not have to worry about finding a reasurrence shield anyplace. Especially where there is no junction with another road for miles where these shields usually are.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 12, 2012, 10:43:28 AM
Quote from: Henry on April 12, 2012, 10:38:06 AM
I happen to like these! They're kind of like secondary reassurance markers that let you know what highway you're on, as well as the distance.
That's the purpose. These are designed to make it easier to report your location in case of an emergency. "Help, 911, I have been involved a wreck on I-999 going south at milepost 49.8. Please send an ambulance and the police."
Also helps emergency services (police, fire and EMS) dispatchers pinpoint the exact location and directional roadway while the service call is in progress, and when they write their service call report.
The NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway have had tenths mile markers for years. Matter of fact we used them a lot on the CB back in the day and for saying 138.8 on the GSP it was one thirty-eight over eight was and still probably is the CB lingo to this day.
Quote from: shadyjay on April 13, 2012, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: F350 on April 13, 2012, 03:21:22 AM
Are there any other states that do U.S. and/or state routes on mile markers?
NH... especially NH 101 from Manchester east to Hampton Beach. I think there are smaller ones posted every mile on some of the major 2-lane state and US highways.
New Hampshire also loves to install mile markers with shields on them ever 10th of a mile on the freeways.
Maryland generally does this only on tolled segments of freeway (including sections that are maintained by the Maryland Transportation Authority even though it is possible to drive on it without paying a toll).
Meanwhile, in Connecticut you're still lucky to find mile markers of any sort.
Putting the route shield on the marker, at least for freeways, really should be a no-brainer.
I-55 through Jackson just recently started having mile markers with interstate shields on them. Also (though off the subject a tad), the mile markers are now signed every quarter mile.
Quote from: golden eagle on November 09, 2012, 08:37:41 PM
I-55 through Jackson just recently started having mile markers with interstate shields on them. Also (though off the subject a tad), the mile markers are now signed every quarter mile.
I-49 was recently signed with mile markers. It has the shield, mile, and they're done in .2 increments... only in Alexandria though.
"Bonus" mile marker 1A.0 on I-40 East in Memphis. This is from 2005 and the section was under construction, so I'm not certain if this exact sign is still there.
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Quote from: kinupanda on November 10, 2012, 01:30:54 AM
"Bonus" mile marker 1A.0 on I-40 East in Memphis. This is from 2005 and the section was under construction, so I'm not certain if this exact sign is still there.
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I believe it is... I was just there last month. If not, than a similar sign.
I've heard Arkansas may be getting mileposts, but I've not seen any.
Kansas, however,
does use them
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Florida's interstates do not use them yet, but some of the Miami-Dade Expressway Authority toll roads use them. Much of Florida's Turnpike is using them, north of FL70, but with the turnpike shield.
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They seem to have been installed between February and September of 2012.
In Hillsborough County, FL FDOT uses text "I-4" on milemarkers at every mile and the half mile.
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This one will tell us what exit number Exit 12 will be when NYSDOT makes the change to mile based exits.
Quote from: US71 on November 10, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
Kansas, however, does use them
Shoot, who needs it to be an Interstate?
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...or even a freeway?
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...and why not stick some on exit ramps why we're at it?
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Here is one the Taconic State uses, even though the shield is small, it can be seen down low on the right. It does have the TSP shield like a numbered route does. Only the southern counties of the Taconic State use them I have only seen.
They're cool and all, but is it really necessary to have anything beyond the actual mile number and fraction? Are route reassurance markers every 0.2 miles necessary? Seems like over kill to me.
Quote from: kphoger on November 10, 2012, 02:20:18 PM
Shoot, who needs it to be an Interstate?
True:
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But if you want to confuse people, double post it :-D
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Quote from: connroadgeek on November 10, 2012, 07:26:46 PM
They're cool and all, but is it really necessary to have anything beyond the actual mile number and fraction? Are route reassurance markers every 0.2 miles necessary? Seems like over kill to me.
I suppose they are considered safety devices. If an accident happens or there is some other need to call emergency personnel, you want them to be able to find you quickly. It's not hard to believe that someone might be lost and not know what road they are on, or forget the road number after a trauma. I'd hate to call 911 and say, "I'm at mile marker 124.2, but I don't know what road."
Indiana has mile markers on most state and US roads, as well as ramps.
Connecticut has the 1/5 mile markers in two areas I'm aware of:
[1] I-95 from the New York state line in Greenwich until (at least?) Exit 48 for I-91 in New Haven.
[2] I-84 from the New York state line in Danbury until Waterbury, somewhere east of CT 8 and west of the Cheshire town line. Within the past 18 months, the interstate 84 shield was added to the mile markers from the New York state line east to the Housatonic River (Newtown/Southbury town line).
Quote from: kphoger on November 10, 2012, 02:20:18 PM
...and why not stick some on exit ramps why we're at it?
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The above photo reminded me about how call boxes on freeway-to-freeway ramps in the S.F. Bay Area are identified.
All call boxes in the region are identified by a county code, the route number and a mileage value based on the route's postmile where the box is installed. When a call box is installed on a ramp, the mileage value gets a "T" suffix to indicate the box is on a ramp. For example, this call box (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=37.316637,-121.946155&spn=0.001723,0.001888&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=37.316637,-121.946155&panoid=bogDrK2BHUdyiqpFI4qbvA&cbp=12,120.76,,2,1.73) is SC-280-057T, the box is located on a ramp at postmile 5.7 on route 280 (I-280 in this case) in Santa Clara county. In most cases there is a corresponding call box on the mainline with a number "SC-280-057".
Quote from: Brandon on April 11, 2012, 09:05:52 PM
Illinois State Toll Highway Authority:
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I like how ISTHA uses actual fractions instead of decimals for the increment. That, and the size difference between the number and the fraction, makes the signs easier to read at a glance.
Most mile markers on "free" highways around Maryland are at each mile only, normally no half-mile or tenth-mile markers.
But Maryland's toll highways and toll crossings usually do have mileposts every 1/10th of a mile, and do have shields in some cases. Annoying exceptions are the I-95 and I-895 tunnels under Baltimore Harbor, which do not (but should) have mile markers posted.
Md. 200 has shields on every whole mile marker:
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US71, cpzaillacus and kphorger, Nice milepost pics smiliar to WV's.
I would love to see Arizona do this more. I've seen a couple on I-10 west of AZ 85. I think ADOT was testing a mile stretch of markers there.
Lake Pontchartrain Causeway Bridge now have full sized 1/10 mile marker signs while the I-10 Twin Span Bridge (a.k.a. Frank Davis "Naturally N'Awlins" Memorial Bridge) have them every 2/10 mile.
http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2014/09/causeway_mile-market_project_t.html
Quote(a.k.a. Frank Davis "Naturally N'Awlins" Memorial Bridge)
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone actually call it that down your way?
Mexico highways use this as their method of identifying the highway in place of the methods the US and Canada uses.
I have yet to see any in Alabama, but I have seen them in Georgia.
They are quite common along I-64 in Virginia between Williamsburg and I-81. The portion between Richmond and Williamsburg also has these markers pointed in the opposite direction of travel with a shield for I-64 REV, presumably for when the counterflow lanes are used in the event of an evacuation.
Interstate 75 in Chattanooga, TN has these, (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.012649,-85.184295,3a,27.8y,41.66h,87.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stTJuyrwRlbWvBr3lon8m9A!2e0) which are very interesting.
As well as I-24. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.017652,-85.284583,3a,30y,112.39h,87.6t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMJMV4Ej6PCvgw2FWbJLcCA!2e0)
I believe Maine had shields on mile markers on I-95 and I-295 every 10th mile when I was there in 2005 and 2007.
Minnesota has them on I-94, I-35W, and the stub segment of MN 65 in downtown Minneapolis as these are the three routes with .10 mileposts in the state at the moment.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on January 25, 2015, 05:23:03 PM
Interstate 75 in Chattanooga, TN has these, (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.012649,-85.184295,3a,27.8y,41.66h,87.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stTJuyrwRlbWvBr3lon8m9A!2e0) which are very interesting.
As well as I-24. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.017652,-85.284583,3a,30y,112.39h,87.6t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMJMV4Ej6PCvgw2FWbJLcCA!2e0)
Those look to be the "original" type that first started appearing in the 90s. They are still the most common type in Indiana and Ohio, although the more wordy ones (that I personally am not a fan of) are appearing more as old ones are replaced.
Thread bump:
While traveling to and from Hickory Run State Park yesterday, I noticed along stretches of the Northeast Extension (I-476), north of Landale that the PTC has been installing enhanced mile markers at every whole mile and large mile markers (w/no shield or direction) at every 0.1 mile. These were installed along off the shoulders. The older-style whole-mile markers, located on the median barrier, still remain.
So PTC is indeed moving towards enhanced mile markers (at least for its whole miles) along its roadway system.
Note: these markers do not include yellow TOLL banners a la the ICC.