What are some notable state highways that are signed as such but are not maintained by the state?
The first one that comes to mind for me is "old" NJ-24 between Hackettstown and Morristown. I know there are many others though, like all of the ones in Vermont (35, 121, etc.)
Part of almost every route in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
Also many toll roads marked as state highways.
I dont know if KY takes care of all their state highways or not. They have about 1000 of them.
I don't know if sr641 takes care of all their posts or not. They have about 80 of them.
All state highways designated as "connecting highways" through municipalities in Wisconsin are not state-maintained (although the state does help reimburse the municipalities for some maintenance expenses). Here's a link with the complete list: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/planresources/connecting.htm
All Virginia primary routes in jurisdictions that take care of their own roads fall into this category. A notable no-longer state route is old VA 305 in Virginia Beach, still posted 50+ years later.
Connecticut has 4 segments of state roads that ConnDOT does not maintain:
- Route 10 NB, from Skiff Street to Shepard Avenue, Hamden
- Route 34 WB, from the end of the Oak Street Connector to Ella Grasso Boulevard, New Haven
- Route 83, from I-384 to Center Street, Manchester
- Route 136, from MLK Boulevard to Washington Street, Norwalk
CA 19 in LA is being turned over to city authorities.
CA 160, CA 16 and CA 275 in Sacramento have been transfered as such.
Quote from: national highway 1 on May 10, 2012, 08:10:22 PM
CA 19 in LA is being turned over to city authorities.
CA 160, CA 16 and CA 275 in Sacramento have been transfered as such.
Those aren't state highways anymore.
The Dulles Greenway portion of VA 267 also qualifies...
Some incorporated towns also have "End State Maintenance" signs on their primary routes at the corporate limits (e.g. VA 20 in Orange)
VA 43 is signed to follow the Blue Ridge Parkway (though not on the BRP itself) so this would also qualify.
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Quote from: sr641 on May 10, 2012, 06:07:11 PM
I dont know if KY takes care of all their state highways or not. They have about 1000 of them.
There are a whole lot more than 1,000 of them.
Kentucky has maintenance agreements to allow Louisville/Jefferson County to maintain certain routes in Louisville, and to allow Lexington/Fayette County to maintain the numbered routes inside New Circle Road.
The closest Arkansas gets is a number of unsigned highways, usually in the 8xx Series. These are mostly state maintained college access roads.
There are also a few 4xx Series that are State Park Roadways. AR 400, for example, goes to Lake Fort Smith State Park but it's not posted as a State Highway.
Oregon 210 comes to mind. I read, on here actually, that it's Washington County that maintains most of it, save a small portion in Portland.
Not that the route is really signed well at all.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 11, 2012, 12:18:49 AMOregon 210 comes to mind. I read, on here actually, that it's Washington County that maintains most of it, save a small portion in Portland.
Actually the only portion of Oregon 210 still under ODOT maintenance is between Hall Boulevard (a.k.a. Oregon Highway 141) to the Portland & Western Railroad crossing; and only because it involves the intersection with another ODOT highway as well as the interchange with Oregon 217. Oregon 210 ends in Raleigh Hills within sight of the Portland city line.
Oregon 10 (Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway/Farmington Road) is only ODOT maintained from the Multnomah/Washington County line west to the P&W Railroad crossing in downtown Beaverton, and then between mileposts 5.88 and 7.38 in Aloha (in the area around S.W. 185th Avenue). However I have noticed that a recent construction project near the intersection with Oregon 219 rebuilt the last mile of Oregon 10 to state spec with ODOT spec signs rather than county spec signs. Oregon 10 east of Raleigh Hills in the City of Portland is city maintained.
Oregon 8, Gales Creek Road (west of Forest Grove), is probably the best example - it was never a state highway, but it's been assigned a state route marker for a very long time. Whereas Oregon 10 and 210 were ODOT jurisdiction roads until the 1990s.
Within Portland city limits, Oregon 99E north of the new viaduct in S.E. Portland up to Columbia Boulevard is city maintained; U.S. 26 (Powell Boulevard) within the city of Gresham is city maintained.
One confusing aspect involving state highways in Portland is that traffic signals, with the exception of those attached to freeway on/off-ramps or ramp meters, are maintained under contract by the City of Portland. You'll see a lot more 8" signal heads (or 12, 8, 8), PDOT spec signage (including Clearview signs), decorative lighting, and different mast arm assemblies - even on ODOT maintained roads.
Another example would be Oregon 213 in Salem (Market Street I-5 to Lancaster Drive, Lancaster Drive north to Silverton Road, Silverton Road east to the city of Silverton) - never an ODOT maintained facility.
Oregon 213 to the north of Silverton is the Cascade Highway South 160; while Oregon 214 north of Silverton is the Hillsboro-Silverton Highway 140 (Oregon 219 west of Woodburn) and Oregon 214 south of Silverton is the Silver Creek Falls Highway 163.
CA-42 remains pretty well signed despite it having been turned over to city control quite a while ago. Even most live traffic maps tend to continue to show route shields.
Thank you, sp_redelectric, for clarifying that. I believe you were the poster I originally ready about Oregon 210 from.
Old Highway 395 in northern San Diego County comes to mind.
Quote from: national highway 1 on May 10, 2012, 08:10:22 PM
CA 19 in LA is being turned over to city authorities.
Have charges been filed yet?
Quote from: JustDrive on May 11, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
Old Highway 395 in northern San Diego County comes to mind.
What's it signed as?
In Florida we have FL 527 in Orlando between Gore Street and the Winter Park Line (correct me about this one if I am wrong) is municipally maintained.
NJ 31 in Trenton, NJ is maintained by Mercer County, NJ.
NJ 47 in Wildwood, NJ is under the County of Cape May, NJ jurisdiction.
NJ 28 in Plainfield, NJ is maintained by Union County, NJ.
I believe that parts of NJ 27 in Newark and Elizabeth are city maintained.
I am not sure about the surface street part of NJ 21 in Newark, NJ; but it could very well be part of Newark as it has city traffic signals on it and not typical NJDOT signals.
Then you have US 202 between Morris Plains and Mahwah, NJ that is almost all county maintained. Only around I-80, its overlap with NJ 23, and around I-287 is US 202 a state highway. I do not know if this route is covered by this thread as it is unclear if the state in state highway means the designations or all routes we know as federal that are usually owned by the individual states.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 11, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
In Florida we have FL 527 in Orlando between Gore Street and the Winter Park Line (correct me about this one if I am wrong) is municipally maintained.
Only between Gore and Colonial (and in Winter Park, from Mills to Fairbanks).
In Texas, all FM and RM roads that are labeled as Urban Roads are no longer state maintained. More or less the county they reside takes over, but the state still aids in funding.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 11, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
In Florida we have FL 527 in Orlando between Gore Street and the Winter Park Line (correct me about this one if I am wrong) is municipally maintained.
NJ 31 in Trenton, NJ is maintained by Mercer County, NJ.
NJ 47 in Wildwood, NJ is under the County of Cape May, NJ jurisdiction.
NJ 28 in Plainfield, NJ is maintained by Union County, NJ.
Was not aware of Plainfield. Cool.
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I believe that parts of NJ 27 in Newark and Elizabeth are city maintained.
I am not sure about the surface street part of NJ 21 in Newark, NJ; but it could very well be part of Newark as it has city traffic signals on it and not typical NJDOT signals.
NJ 27: All state maintained according to the Straight Line Diagrams (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000027__-.pdf). NJ 21: Newark does all of the signals per agreement with NJDOT, but the highway is very much state maintained. Think about the big widening project they just completed from 4 to 6 lanes north of downtown.
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Then you have US 202 between Morris Plains and Mahwah, NJ that is almost all county maintained. Only around I-80, its overlap with NJ 23, and around I-287 is US 202 a state highway. I do not know if this route is covered by this thread as it is unclear if the state in state highway means the designations or all routes we know as federal that are usually owned by the individual states.
Sure it counts, it's SR 202. You missed NJ 27 (county) and NJ 171 (city and county) in New Brunswick.
Quote from: Perfxion on May 11, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
In Texas, all FM and RM roads that are labeled as Urban Roads are no longer state maintained. More or less the county they reside takes over, but the state still aids in funding.
Are you sure about this?
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Tex-Arcana-What-s-a-farm-to-market-road-1819994.php
"urban FMs are eligible for state maintenance but not for state expansion money"
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pSVSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DjYNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1946,2751619
Bloody hell, they posted some UR signs? Anyone have a photo?
Quote from: NE2 on May 11, 2012, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: JustDrive on May 11, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
Old Highway 395 in northern San Diego County comes to mind.
What's it signed as?
Old Highway 395 on street blade or overpass bridge signs. There are also brown historic US-395 signs
Quote from: kendancy66 on May 11, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 11, 2012, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: JustDrive on May 11, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
Old Highway 395 in northern San Diego County comes to mind.
What's it signed as?
Old Highway 395 on street blade or overpass bridge signs. There are also brown historic US-395 signs
So it's not signed as a state highway, but as a former US-numbered state highway.
This has come up a couple times previously, but "Nevada 49" from Gerlach to Winnemucca is/was signed and still appears on some maps, despite being dropped from the system years ago.
California State Route 90 in Yorba Linda is maintained by the city between Placentia and Anaheim, but is still signed as 90. A recent project by Caltrans to build a grade separation over railroad tracks near where 90 crosses from Yorba Linda into Anaheim includes new signing showing 90 continuing into Yorba Linda.
In Québec, any numbered highway (except autoroutes of course) that goes through a city of a notable size may very well have that part under municipal jurisdiction.
For example, around Montréal, 112 isn't provincial until at least Saint-Lambert, 117 until after Laval, and 125 is municipal until A-25 ends! Regarding 112, it becomes municipal again through Magog and Sherbrooke. 116 is municipal through a few cities as well, including Saint-Hyacinthe and Victoriaville. Of course, 138 and 335 are municipal through Montréal too.
Quote from: NE2 on May 10, 2012, 06:12:35 PM
I don't know if sr641 takes care of all their posts or not. They have about 80 of them.
Don't be an asshole, NE2. He asked a legitimate question, and HB answered it nicely later on.
NY 3A between Deferiet and Fargo is maintained by Jefferson County, NY. It is even signed concurrently with County Route 36 its 5 plus miles bypassing Carthage.
NY has a LOT of state highways maintained by counties, cities, towns, and villages. Another major one is NY 206 south of NY 30.
Quote from: deanej on May 18, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
NY has a LOT of state highways maintained by counties, cities, towns, and villages. Another major one is NY 206 south of NY 30.
Yeah I was also noticing that about NY 3 inside the Watertown City Limits. According to Wikepedia, it is pretty much municipally maintained including the NY 3 and NY 12 overlap. In fact, NYSDOT takes over on the east end of town where it breaks free from Route 12.
Then you have all roads in NYC not at all run in Albany either.