The $21.9 million dollar project will construct a new two-lane, 4.5 mile partial bypass connecting the existing U.S. 50 near County Road 400 W to State Road 3 in North Vernon...
Lt. Governor Breaks Ground on New U.S. 50 North Vernon Bypass (http://www.in.gov/activecalendar/EventList.aspx?view=EventDetails&eventidn=56152&information_id=112743&type=&syndicate=syndicate)
If I understand from the online sign diagrams that the new bypass will be Indiana 750, at least until the whole thing is completed, at which point it becomes U.S. 50.
This thread is super-dead but I'm bringin' it back.
I became interested in this when I saw the number "750" shown on teh google maps. I'm surprised they actually signed it as SR 750! Is it still true that this will eventually become US50 when it's completed? And if so, are they going to slap the number 750 on the old US50 alignment? I don't know about Indiana's level of affinity for Business Routes
https://goo.gl/maps/t6AZ4i38VFw
The bypass will be US 50 and the current US 50, based on what one can typically think from INDOT will be given to North Vernon as a local road. The number 750 is merely a placeholder for the time being. INDOT does not do business routes officially but local municipalities can sign them (a few have though most do not.) In any case a business route is still the local government's responsibility.
Business 50 through Washington (Daviess County) is still maintained by INDOT. The bypass opened around 1990 or 1992. IIRC, Washington refused to accept responsibility for the road, even after being offered a sum of money to cover maintenance. Is it possible for a municipality to do so?
Quote from: SW Indiana on March 18, 2016, 03:14:46 PM
Business 50 through Washington (Daviess County) is still maintained by INDOT. The bypass opened around 1990 or 1992. IIRC, Washington refused to accept responsibility for the road, even after being offered a sum of money to cover maintenance. Is it possible for a municipality to do so?
As far as I know, yes. INDOT and a city/county have to agree to turn a state-maintained highway over to local control. INDOT wants to get rid of IN 933 in Mishawaka and the city is refusing.
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 20, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
As far as I know, yes. INDOT and a city/county have to agree to turn a state-maintained highway over to local control. INDOT wants to get rid of IN 933 in Mishawaka and the city is refusing.
I imagine INDOT wants to get rid of its whole system, and the current network of Indiana state roads are just the ones local agencies have refused to accept. :rolleyes:
My understanding is the City/County have already agreed to take the road, but I'll have to double-check that.
Anyway, the first half of the bypass has been open for some time and there's light traffic on it. It has diverted a lot of the semi traffic from downtown North Vernon, which is good.
I believe the other half is supposedly going to start construction this year.
The existing US 50 route is still going to have way more traffic then the bypass.
When will the North Vernon Bypass be completed?
Cruised through there earlier today. A lot of work has been done on the new section since last time I was there back in March.
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Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
Quote from: usends on November 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
I tried finding an article but could not find anything. So I looked at Openstreetmap and it doesn't look like it's been opened yet.
I need to stop in North Vernon to complete my Indiana road sign photo collection, and I promised myself I'd do that by the end of this year. Will report back once I get a free 3-day weekend to accomplish this :biggrin:
Quote from: usends on November 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
IIRC, supposed to open this week, might slip into next week though. I know they ran into some weather delays and added a roundabout on the eastern side of town where 50/750 will meet. The western side will get one too as that was a very dangerous intersection and there have been a few deaths in accidents in the last couple years there.
Quote from: thefro on December 04, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
Quote from: usends on November 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
IIRC, supposed to open this week, might slip into next week though. I know they ran into some weather delays and added a bypass on the eastern side of town where 50/750 will meet. The western side will get one too as that was a very dangerous intersection and there have been a few deaths in accidents in the last couple years there.
what are you talking about? a bypass of the bypass? i think i'm misreading what you're saying
i'm assuming current 50 that is being bypassed will no longer be a state road
I may be going through North* Vernon on Sunday as part of collecting some new counties in SE Indiana. May have to add this to my list of things to check out.
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 04, 2017, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: thefro on December 04, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
Quote from: usends on November 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
IIRC, supposed to open this week, might slip into next week though. I know they ran into some weather delays and added a bypass on the eastern side of town where 50/750 will meet. The western side will get one too as that was a very dangerous intersection and there have been a few deaths in accidents in the last couple years there.
what are you talking about? a bypass of the bypass? i think i'm misreading what you're saying
Sorry, there is a roundabout on the East end of the bypass (connecting future SR750 & US 50) and will be one constructed on the other end.
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 04, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
i'm assuming current 50 that is being bypassed will no longer be a state road
Eventually, but it may be several years before INDOT finishes repaving, etc on current US 50 and turning it over to Jennings County/City of North Vernon.
Quote from: thefro on December 05, 2017, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 04, 2017, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: thefro on December 04, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
Quote from: usends on November 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
IIRC, supposed to open this week, might slip into next week though. I know they ran into some weather delays and added a bypass on the eastern side of town where 50/750 will meet. The western side will get one too as that was a very dangerous intersection and there have been a few deaths in accidents in the last couple years there.
what are you talking about? a bypass of the bypass? i think i'm misreading what you're saying
Sorry, there is a roundabout on the East end of the bypass (connecting future SR750 & US 50) and will be one constructed on the other end.
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 04, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
i'm assuming current 50 that is being bypassed will no longer be a state road
Eventually, but it may be several years before INDOT finishes repaving, etc on current US 50 and turning it over to Jennings County/City of North Vernon.
hmm, i wonder what will happen in the meantime, will it be signed as 750, business us 50, nothing, or us 50 (they did this with 231 in lafayette for a few weeks)
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 05, 2017, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: thefro on December 05, 2017, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 04, 2017, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: thefro on December 04, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
Quote from: usends on November 29, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Anyone know if this has opened yet? INDOT's website says the anticipated date was late summer/early fall 2017.
IIRC, supposed to open this week, might slip into next week though. I know they ran into some weather delays and added a bypass on the eastern side of town where 50/750 will meet. The western side will get one too as that was a very dangerous intersection and there have been a few deaths in accidents in the last couple years there.
what are you talking about? a bypass of the bypass? i think i'm misreading what you're saying
Sorry, there is a roundabout on the East end of the bypass (connecting future SR750 & US 50) and will be one constructed on the other end.
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 04, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
i'm assuming current 50 that is being bypassed will no longer be a state road
Eventually, but it may be several years before INDOT finishes repaving, etc on current US 50 and turning it over to Jennings County/City of North Vernon.
hmm, i wonder what will happen in the meantime, will it be signed as 750, business us 50, nothing, or us 50 (they did this with 231 in lafayette for a few weeks)
My understanding is US 50 will continue to be signed as it is now, the bypass will be SR 750 when it opens (at the very least until they get the western roundabout constructed). There's not even an agreement to turn the current US 50 over to the county/city yet.
it's showing up on google now
I was in North Vernon today and can confirm a couple things:
- The bypass is not open east of SR 3 yet.
- It will be signed as US 50 as soon as it opens as I saw a US 50 shield posted on the bypass just east of SR 3
- SR 3 has been rerouted to continue north along SR 7 to SR 750 then heads east to the current eastern terminus of SR 750, where it heads north towards Greensburg on its previous route.
I photographed the entire route in both directions and will post some pictures here once they're uploaded to Flickr.
Quote from: okroads on December 10, 2017, 06:54:36 PM
I was in North Vernon today and can confirm a couple things:
- The bypass is not open east of SR 3 yet.
- It will be signed as US 50 as soon as it opens as I saw a US 50 shield posted on the bypass just east of SR 3
- SR 3 has been rerouted to continue north along SR 7 to SR 750 then heads east to the current eastern terminus of SR 750, where it heads north towards Greensburg on its previous route.
I photographed the entire route in both directions and will post some pictures here once they're uploaded to Flickr.
INDOT just couldn't bare to take care of 1.2 miles of road, so they rerouted SR 3
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 11, 2017, 07:29:51 AM
Quote from: okroads on December 10, 2017, 06:54:36 PM
I was in North Vernon today and can confirm a couple things:
- The bypass is not open east of SR 3 yet.
- It will be signed as US 50 as soon as it opens as I saw a US 50 shield posted on the bypass just east of SR 3
- SR 3 has been rerouted to continue north along SR 7 to SR 750 then heads east to the current eastern terminus of SR 750, where it heads north towards Greensburg on its previous route.
I photographed the entire route in both directions and will post some pictures here once they're uploaded to Flickr.
INDOT just couldn't bare to take care of 1.2 miles of road, so they rerouted SR 3
That's surprising to me given that SR 3 is a route for substantial semi truck traffic to get to the US 50 bypass from the Lowe's distribution center in North Vernon, along with other industry.
So what will they call that stretch of SR 3. I don't believe there is any name for it. I can't think of any practical reason for even rerouting that highway.
Quote from: tdindy88 on December 11, 2017, 10:56:29 AM
So what will they call that stretch of SR 3. I don't believe there is any name for it. I can't think of any practical reason for even rerouting that highway.
either "old sr 3" or they'll let north vernon name it
Some pictures from yesterday:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4733/38256740524_e14f7da851_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21hBN7y)DSC06558 (https://flic.kr/p/21hBN7y) by Eric Stuve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/), on Flickr
IN 750 EB @ IN 3. Notice the U.S. 50 shield just past the barriers.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4562/38936195082_c933d075fa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22jEbhj)DSC06572 (https://flic.kr/p/22jEbhj) by Eric Stuve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/), on Flickr
Western terminus of IN 750 @ US 50. Per the discussion above, this will soon be turned into a roundabout.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4692/27195724309_30522b7df5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hrccmr)DSC06576 (https://flic.kr/p/Hrccmr) by Eric Stuve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/), on Flickr
First IN 750 shield with a TO IN 3 assembly
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4634/38936161302_1d23f6bfe8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22jE1eU)DSC06582 (https://flic.kr/p/22jE1eU) by Eric Stuve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/), on Flickr
IN 750 EB @ IN 3/IN 7. IN 3 North is straight ahead but is not signed as such here, nor is IN 3 signed anywhere along either direction of IN 750.
Per the North Vernon Plain Dealer, the bypass is opening on Dec 20th (https://www.facebook.com/NVPDS/)
Quote from: North Vernon Plain DealerAt long last, the U.S. 50 bypass is opening.
Barricades will come down following a ribbon cutting on the eastern leg of the new highway at 1:30 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 20. Then traffic will flow on the bypass.
"That is great news," said Jennings County Commissioner Matt Sporleder (R-District 3). "I am looking forward to using the bypass."
North Vernon Mayor Mike Ochs said the new highway will be good for the city.
"It will be a big change and it's something we need," he noted. "I really think the bypass will be a good thing for North Vernon and will lead to more businesses and stores downtown."
Edit: Read the whole article now and US 50 will be rerouted officially Wednesday when the bypass opens.
50 will be Walnut Street/Buckeye Street within the NV city limits and "Old US Highway 50" elsewhere
Nothing about SR3 being rerouted at all.
Quote from: thefro on December 14, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
Per the North Vernon Plain Dealer, the bypass is opening on Dec 20th (https://www.facebook.com/NVPDS/)
Quote from: North Vernon Plain DealerAt long last, the U.S. 50 bypass is opening.
Barricades will come down following a ribbon cutting on the eastern leg of the new highway at 1:30 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 20. Then traffic will flow on the bypass.
"That is great news," said Jennings County Commissioner Matt Sporleder (R-District 3). "I am looking forward to using the bypass."
North Vernon Mayor Mike Ochs said the new highway will be good for the city.
"It will be a big change and it's something we need," he noted. "I really think the bypass will be a good thing for North Vernon and will lead to more businesses and stores downtown."
So will it be utterly pointless for me to look for a IN-750 shield in the field after today?
Edit: Read the whole article now and US 50 will be rerouted officially Wednesday when the bypass opens.
50 will be Walnut Street/Buckeye Street within the NV city limits and "Old US Highway 50" elsewhere
Nothing about SR3 being rerouted at all.
I drove on the new segment of the bypass yesterday evening and the US 50 signs aren't up yet on the new segment, although the sign frames are. SR750 is still up on the first segment (at least between SR7 & 3).
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2017, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: thefro on December 14, 2017, 12:18:10 PM
Per the North Vernon Plain Dealer, the bypass is opening on Dec 20th (https://www.facebook.com/NVPDS/)
Quote from: North Vernon Plain DealerAt long last, the U.S. 50 bypass is opening.
Barricades will come down following a ribbon cutting on the eastern leg of the new highway at 1:30 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 20. Then traffic will flow on the bypass.
"That is great news," said Jennings County Commissioner Matt Sporleder (R-District 3). "I am looking forward to using the bypass."
North Vernon Mayor Mike Ochs said the new highway will be good for the city.
"It will be a big change and it's something we need," he noted. "I really think the bypass will be a good thing for North Vernon and will lead to more businesses and stores downtown."
So will it be utterly pointless for me to look for a IN-750 shield in the field after today?
Edit: Read the whole article now and US 50 will be rerouted officially Wednesday when the bypass opens.
50 will be Walnut Street/Buckeye Street within the NV city limits and "Old US Highway 50" elsewhere
Nothing about SR3 being rerouted at all.
I'm assuming the portion inside city limits will only be that way for a few months, their probably still hashing out a deal there.
Per the North Vernon Plain Dealer print edition from a week ago, US 50 isn't going to be signed on the bypass until the Summer when they have all work completed.
Drove the bypass a few days ago and it is all still signed as IN 750.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 27, 2018, 04:58:01 PM
Drove the bypass a few days ago and it is all still signed as IN 750.
It's signed as 50 now.
Is the former alignment of US50 signed as anything? A business route, perhaps?
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 18, 2019, 10:17:02 AM
Is the former alignment of US50 signed as anything? A business route, perhaps?
Nope. I wish it were.
Per Google Maps, taking the old route through the town is faster....
The purpose must be to remove trucks from downtown. Anyone know how much truck traffic this section of US 50 gets?
Quote from: csw on March 18, 2019, 12:58:17 PM
Per Google Maps, taking the old route through the town is faster....
The purpose must be to remove trucks from downtown. Anyone know how much truck traffic this section of US 50 gets?
2 reasons US 50 was moved.
Industrial Park north of town, specifically a large Lowes Distribution Center (with a large number of trucks) that services Cincy, Indy and Louisville.
There is a functional railroad (Madison Railroad) that traverses the center of town from the south to the industrial park to the north. This railroad crossing gets blocked occasionally because much of the traffic switches off the nearby CSX Indiana Sub, which is very busy with Cincy to Louisville traffic currently.
Honestly, INDOT didn't have a great deal of choices when looking at a bypass. The south route is blocked by Muskatuck Park and Old Vernon.
Honda Motor in nearby Greensburg has 2 suppliers in town, and taking IN-3 north (which has also been improved to a 4 lane part way) gets you to Honda quickly.
Hopefully that helps.
This bypass wasn't really about improving E-W travel times, it was strictly economic.
US 50 got a ton of truck traffic through North Vernon before the bypass. Besides Lowes, Wal-Mart has a distribution center in nearby Seymour so all their trucks going to the Cincinnati area take US 50. There is also Muscatatuck Urban Training center where large military convoys travel in for training. Batesville Casket also sends their trucks southbound through there. I've been waiting before at the US 50/SR 3/7 intersection and literally counted ~10 semis going through.
My understanding is that the state promised Lowes the bypass decades when the economic incentives, etc were put together to locate the Lowes distribution center in Indiana.
Another trivia note is that the local State Rep at the time for Jennings County was the tie-breaking vote for Indiana to change to Daylight Savings time and the carrot to get him to change his vote was moving the US 50 bypass up INDOT's priority list.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 18, 2019, 10:17:02 AM
Is the former alignment of US50 signed as anything? A business route, perhaps?
It's named Old US Highway 50 outside the North Vernon city limits, and Walnut street /Buckeye street inside. No shields.