We will be upgrading the forum tonight, which requires some downtime of the forum software. Please be patient when you see the forum in maintenance mode. Thanks!
Ok, we've now upgraded to SMF 2.0.2.
Please report here if you encounter any problems so we can fix them.
In the 'edit profile' section the input boxes for resubmitting your social network username are misaligned with the text. I accidentally typed my Facebook username in the 'MySpace' input box.
Other than this, I am satisfied by the overhaul. Very sleek and modern, and a good way to transition into the 2010s. :clap:
Interesting how you've removed all trace of 'ethanman62187'... :bigass:
Quote from: national highway 1 on May 30, 2012, 02:50:25 AM
In the 'edit profile' section the input boxes for resubmitting your social network username are misaligned with the text. I accidentally typed my Facebook username in the 'MySpace' input box.
What browser are you using? I'm currently using Firefox 13 beta 5 and they look fine here.
I'm currently using IE8
(yes I know it's not the best, but...)
Quote from: national highway 1 on May 30, 2012, 03:01:13 AM
I'm currently using IE8
(yes I know it's not the best, but...)
Try turning on "Compatibility Mode" in IE8 for this site. Might fix your problem.
Or upgrade to IE9 if it's possible (as long as you're not running XP).
Is the forum upgrade the reason for the new quote layout? If so, great job!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2aCaJdw3nME/T8YZKLwSKyI/AAAAAAAABtc/J4hqtDHGuaY/s912/NewForumLayout.png)
The posts look different, for some reason. There's been some change in the font, or the font spacing, and IMHO not for the better. (Viewing in Safari 5.1.7 on a MacBook Pro).
As I learned this past weekend from upgrading my iPhone to iOS 5.1, "new" does not always mean "better."
Were there specific reasons for upgrading the forum software, or did you just upgrade because an upgrade was available?
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
The posts look different, for some reason. There's been some change in the font, or the font spacing, and IMHO not for the better. (Viewing in Safari 5.1.7 on a MacBook Pro).
I'll look into seeing if I can tweak this later today when I have some free time. I still have to original CSS file from the old branch of the forum software and I'll compare the two.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
Were there specific reasons for upgrading the forum software, or did you just upgrade because an upgrade was available?
Yes, Alex was worried about being hacked and he wanted the forum to be as secure as possible. Also with the upgrade, it gave us Admins and the rest of the mod crew some new features to hopefully prevent "idiots" like sr641 from causing too much trouble in the future. ;)
Quote from: Zmapper on May 30, 2012, 08:58:24 AM
Is the forum upgrade the reason for the new quote layout? If so, great job!
Believe it or not, that just happened by sheer luck when playing around in the CSS files to fix something else. But I like it that way myself. :)
The font looks the same, but the spacing is definitely different.
Yeah, the spacing is way off from what it was before. Sometimes it looks good, like the forum index or the quotes. Other times, it makes me think someone tried to copy the new gmail interface.
Some buttons are broken visually, such as mark all messages as read, link to calendar, logout, mark read, and print.
For reference, I'm using Google Chrome.
Quote from: national highway 1 on May 30, 2012, 02:50:25 AM
Interesting how you've removed all trace of 'ethanman62187'... :bigass:
Not really. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5625)
The icons to the left need more space - in general the horizontal spacing is off, but qguy's icon had a scroll bar beneath it!
OH, and now for a feature that people can appreciate, images have become clickable. If it's larger than 800 px wide, when you click, it'll expand to original size. Click again, and it shrinks back.
Quote from: deanej on May 30, 2012, 12:19:07 PM
Yeah, the spacing is way off from what it was before. Sometimes it looks good, like the forum index or the quotes. Other times, it makes me think someone tried to copy the new gmail interface.
Trust me, didn't try to copy the Gmail interface. lol.
Quote from: deanej on May 30, 2012, 12:19:07 PM
Some buttons are broken visually, such as mark all messages as read, link to calendar, logout, mark read, and print.
Might want to attempt a force refresh. Back right after we got the theme re-installed, some of the buttons were missing. A force refresh of the page fixed that. And this was in Firefox 13b5.
Quote from: Steve on May 30, 2012, 06:20:49 PM
The icons to the left need more space - in general the horizontal spacing is off, but qguy's icon had a scroll bar beneath it!
That's not happening at all here.
What type of browser are you using Steve and what's the size of your screen? If you have a small enough screen, I could see the scroll bar showing up.
And I've now tweaked the font setup some. Let me know if you think it's better on your ends or not.
Everything looks exactly the same to me as before. Which I guess is a good thing.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
And I've now tweaked the font setup some. Let me know if you think it's better on your ends or not.
No change. Still looks like it did after the upgrade.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
And I've now tweaked the font setup some. Let me know if you think it's better on your ends or not.
No change. Still looks like it did after the upgrade.
Did you force refresh the page? (Ctrl+F5) Because I did notice some change when I made the tweaks to the font settings.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM
Did you force refresh the page? (Ctrl+F5) Because I did notice some change when I made the tweaks to the font settings.
Ctrl-F5? What's that! (Says the Mac user...) :biggrin:
I did hit the reload button, which should do the same thing.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM
Did you force refresh the page? (Ctrl+F5) Because I did notice some change when I made the tweaks to the font settings.
Ctrl-F5? What's that! (Says the Mac user...) :biggrin:
I did hit the reload button, which should do the same thing.
Well, unfortunately I can't test to see if there was any changes on a Mac. I do know that I did notice a change in Firefox 13b6 in Windows 7 x64.
forum looks great to me. I'm running Firefox 12.0 on Windows 7.
I see some very tiny formatting changes, but nothing substantial. for example, this reply box has a light gray background, when before I believe it was light green.
then again, I hardly ever look at individual topics - my default view is "last posts on the forum", regardless of specific subtopic area. so there are a lot of things I do not see very often.
in other news, are our avatars allowed to be bigger now? if so, what is the largest size allowed?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 31, 2012, 11:18:17 AM
in other news, are our avatars allowed to be bigger now?
Avatar settings are still the same from before the forum upgrade (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=2178.0).
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
And I've now tweaked the font setup some. Let me know if you think it's better on your ends or not.
No change. Still looks like it did after the upgrade.
Did you force refresh the page? (Ctrl+F5) Because I did notice some change when I made the tweaks to the font settings.
I think so... neither Shift + F5 nor Ctrl + F5 worked in Chrome, but visiting with another computer that never saw the pre-upgrade version of the forum did. I guess I need to reformat and re-install my laptop just to fix these buttons.
Quote from: deanej on June 01, 2012, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
And I've now tweaked the font setup some. Let me know if you think it's better on your ends or not.
No change. Still looks like it did after the upgrade.
Did you force refresh the page? (Ctrl+F5) Because I did notice some change when I made the tweaks to the font settings.
I think so... neither Shift + F5 nor Ctrl + F5 worked in Chrome, but visiting with another computer that never saw the pre-upgrade version of the forum did. I guess I need to reformat and re-install my laptop just to fix these buttons.
You know, you don't have to re-install your laptop. Just delete your catch for Chrome (I don't know how to do it since I don't have that browser installed) and then try again. That "should" fix the problem I would think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bypass_your_cache provides a handy description of what browser caching does and how to bypass it, on many popular browsers.
I went in and tweaked the font settings to have the forum use whatever your default font size is; I hope this fixes some of the "spacing issues" that have been reported.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 04, 2012, 05:13:14 AM
Quote from: deanej on June 01, 2012, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 31, 2012, 02:28:10 AM
And I've now tweaked the font setup some. Let me know if you think it's better on your ends or not.
No change. Still looks like it did after the upgrade.
Did you force refresh the page? (Ctrl+F5) Because I did notice some change when I made the tweaks to the font settings.
I think so... neither Shift + F5 nor Ctrl + F5 worked in Chrome, but visiting with another computer that never saw the pre-upgrade version of the forum did. I guess I need to reformat and re-install my laptop just to fix these buttons.
You know, you don't have to re-install your laptop. Just delete your catch for Chrome (I don't know how to do it since I don't have that browser installed) and then try again. That "should" fix the problem I would think.
I did that a couple nights ago. I have no idea why that worked since shift + F5 didn't, and that's supposed to be the command to reload and bypass the cache. Maybe Google removed that feature on Linux.
Great job with the forum upgrades. I especially like the alternating backgrounds for nested quotes but I noticed the default font seems to be bigger than it used to be. I viewed the site Sunday night on a 1920x1080 monitor and today on a 1024x768 monitor and in both cases, the display font seems unusually large. Was this change intentional and do you think you could switch it back? I believe the old setting was equivalent to 12-pt Verdana.
Keep up the good work!
Quote from: myosh_tino on June 04, 2012, 02:37:12 PM
Great job with the forum upgrades. I especially like the alternating backgrounds for nested quotes but I noticed the default font seems to be bigger than it used to be. I viewed the site Sunday night on a 1920x1080 monitor and today on a 1024x768 monitor and in both cases, the display font seems unusually large. Was this change intentional and do you think you could switch it back? I believe the old setting was equivalent to 12-pt Verdana.
Keep up the good work!
I also noticed the increase in default font size. I did a CTRL-minus in Firefox and that dropped it to a little bit smaller than the old size, but one that I prefer.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 04, 2012, 04:05:42 PM
I also noticed the increase in default font size. I did a CTRL-minus in Firefox and that dropped it to a little bit smaller than the old size, but one that I prefer.
I tried that too but it makes quoted text unreadable (too small) IMO. It appears quoted text is still the same size as before even though the main default text size is larger.
The larger font size seems to have made the board a bit strange looking for me. I've updated the cache several times, too.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F6283%2Fboard2.png&hash=0e0bdfc36869ff4ccd51e7f53509345184ab0653) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg542.imageshack.us%2Fimg542%2F3448%2Fboard1.png&hash=6f7a23e6a8b4a263f1894a455681b2f8bad477b4)
Is it supposed to look like that?
While the upgrades seem to be okay overall, I'm not a fan of this new green theme/"skin". Much prefer the blue/gray theme from before, but can't find in the settings where to switch back (if it even exists).
Quote from: froggie on June 04, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
While the upgrades seem to be okay overall, I'm not a fan of this new green theme/"skin". Much prefer the blue/gray theme from before, but can't find in the settings where to switch back (if it even exists).
It's still there...
Modify your profile and go into "Look and Layout." You can use either the SMF 2.0 Default or "Core," the old default. The actual board default is "Button Copy 2.0," though.
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
The larger font size seems to have made the board a bit strange looking for me. I've updated the cache several times, too.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F6283%2Fboard2.png&hash=0e0bdfc36869ff4ccd51e7f53509345184ab0653) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg542.imageshack.us%2Fimg542%2F3448%2Fboard1.png&hash=6f7a23e6a8b4a263f1894a455681b2f8bad477b4)
Is it supposed to look like that?
What's the resolution on your screen? That should only happen when you shrink the screen too much.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 04, 2012, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
The larger font size seems to have made the board a bit strange looking for me. I've updated the cache several times, too.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F6283%2Fboard2.png&hash=0e0bdfc36869ff4ccd51e7f53509345184ab0653) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg542.imageshack.us%2Fimg542%2F3448%2Fboard1.png&hash=6f7a23e6a8b4a263f1894a455681b2f8bad477b4)
Is it supposed to look like that?
What's the resolution on your screen? That should only happen when you shrink the screen too much.
1600×900... Although, I don't remember that happening on the board pre-update. Either way, not a big deal, just wanted to be sure I was at the very least getting the latest board look, since I wasn't sure my cache had been cleared. But I think it has been.
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 04, 2012, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
The larger font size seems to have made the board a bit strange looking for me. I've updated the cache several times, too.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg854.imageshack.us%2Fimg854%2F6283%2Fboard2.png&hash=0e0bdfc36869ff4ccd51e7f53509345184ab0653) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg542.imageshack.us%2Fimg542%2F3448%2Fboard1.png&hash=6f7a23e6a8b4a263f1894a455681b2f8bad477b4)
Is it supposed to look like that?
What's the resolution on your screen? That should only happen when you shrink the screen too much.
1600×900... Although, I don't remember that happening on the board pre-update. Either way, not a big deal, just wanted to be sure I was at the very least getting the latest board look, since I wasn't sure my cache had been cleared. But I think it has been.
1680x1050 here. Did you happen to "zoom" in on the forum? That can also cause that problem. In both IE and FF, hit Ctrl+0 to reset the zoom on this site and it should fix that problem.
Nope, I'm using Chrome and I'm at the default, 100% zoom level. Maybe the latest board software just reformats the pages differently from the old version.
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Nope, I'm using Chrome and I'm at the default, 100% zoom level. Maybe the latest board software just reformats the pages differently from the old version.
Guess so. I might be able to fix that still. I know at least the "buttons" bar has a line in the CSS. Just have to remember what line it is and tweak it.
I just tweaked the font settings some more. I force set the font at a specific size, so, hopefully it will be the same for everybody and fix the font problems.
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Nope, I'm using Chrome and I'm at the default, 100% zoom level. Maybe the latest board software just reformats the pages differently from the old version.
I just broke down and installed Chrome to see if I could duplicate this and I wasn't (posting this from chrome). All I can suggest is to clear your catch again.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 05, 2012, 12:05:04 AM
I just tweaked the font settings some more. I force set the font at a specific size, so, hopefully it will be the same for everybody and fix the font problems.
That seems to have resolved my issues with the font size. Thanks! :clap:
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 05, 2012, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Quillz on June 04, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Nope, I'm using Chrome and I'm at the default, 100% zoom level. Maybe the latest board software just reformats the pages differently from the old version.
I just broke down and installed Chrome to see if I could duplicate this and I wasn't (posting this from chrome). All I can suggest is to clear your catch again.
Were you using the same resolution as me? It's probably a resolution issue, as you mentioned before.
And it's not even really an issue for me. I have no problems with font legibility or anything like that, it just seems to put the topic buttons on two rows instead of one. Nothing I can't live with.
Just an FYI to anybody still having "Font" problems, please double check to see if you have the following fonts installed first and make sure they aren't somehow corrupted:
Verdana, sans-serif
In Windows XP: version 2.41 of Verdana is what comes with the OS.
In Windows 7: version 5.02 of Verdana is what comes with the OS, but some recent updates have bumped it up to 5.05, which is what I have here on my copy of Windows 7 x64.
If you're running Linux, this page (https://makandracards.com/makandra/1258-install-the-verdana-and-tahoma-fonts-under-ubuntu-linux) might help ya out. If that doesn't, this page (http://www.askdavetaylor.com/why_do_the_fonts_in_firefox_linux_look_so_terrible.html) might do the trick.
It appears that the 'Help' menu is down from the recent upgrade.
Quote from: national highway 1 on June 05, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
It appears that the 'Help' menu is down from the recent upgrade.
Not our problem. The "Help" is now hosted directly by "Simple Machines", the creators of the forum software. So, when they are down, the help "links" will be down and there is nothing that we can do about it here.
I can't believe I've noticed something so picayune, but when a board has unread threads, the board name is right next to the little - box (indicating that it has been expanded). If you read all the threads and reload, the board name now has a space next to the - box. I'm sending you an example.
Quote from: Steve on June 08, 2012, 09:48:31 PM
I can't believe I've noticed something so picayune, but when a board has unread threads, the board name is right next to the little - box (indicating that it has been expanded). If you read all the threads and reload, the board name now has a space next to the - box. I'm sending you an example.
That's happening here as well. I think that's a bug in the SMF software and not the theme as it's happening in the "Core" theme as well.
It seems users with no posted age are actually older than Methuselah...
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=87.msg153341#msg153341
...or Jesus Christ's younger brother.
I think he set his birth year to 4.
Quote from: Steve on June 08, 2012, 11:40:37 PM
I think he set his birth year to 4.
Nope, there is a bug here. He has it set at 0000. So, if anything, it should be 2012, not 2008. But this bug is in the mod that shows the age. I'll have to report that as it's not a bug in the forum theme.