If anyone out there is interested in helping me out, I'm updating Wikipedia's listing for Louisiana highways to move the former routes to a separate section, under current routes. I have U.S. 71 Business in Alexandria and Louisiana Highway 3131, both of which have been removed. Since I'm only familiar with Pointe Coupee, Grant, Rapides, WBR, and Ouachita Parishes, if anyone from other areas can check the DOTD's maps online (click http://www.dotd.la.gov/planning/mapping/ (http://www.dotd.la.gov/planning/mapping/) to view them) and post which highways they know of that are removed, it would be a huge help! LA 3131 has been deleted as of April 2012, so it's a pretty recent route. Thanks in advance!
are you talking about those parish maps? If thats the case then LA 3231 isn't shown in Shreveport. It was tiny and rarely shown on a map. Probably still signed in one spot that I can think of
Thanks for that! Yeah, the parish maps... I'm going to contact the Caddo Parish Police Jury and see if PR 18 has been extended to meet US 79/80.
Bossier Parish map is missing LA 782-1. Insignificant I know haha. It connects Airline Dr. (3105) with Northgate (185) near Barksdale AFB and is all residential
Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 18, 2012, 12:03:31 PM
Bossier Parish map is missing LA 782-1. Insignificant I know haha. It connects Airline Dr. (3105) with Northgate (185) near Barksdale AFB and is all residential
Actually... looking at a state highway log, and looking at Wikipedia shields already made, I don't see a LA 782-1. It shows up on Google Maps, and is shown in former maps... but surprisingly, LA 782-1 is missing. I've got the DOTD to send me a list of the highways that have been added, deleted, or rerouted. It's gonna be a long list, but hopefully it makes a dent in Louisiana's 2000+ different route numbers.
where's the actual log on the DOTD website? I mean I've seen the maps and the state map but is there a list on there anywhere?
Yeah gotta love the hyphenated routes. Nothing beats the 10 or 12 of them at Grand Isle. Completely pointless!
The only log I am aware of is this one:
http://www.southeastroads.com/la_state_highways.html
It is missing several minor routes that I know of. One that comes to mind right now is LA 1138-1. Some of the newer routes (e.g., 1256, 1258) are also missing.
Quote from: cenlaroads on June 18, 2012, 06:42:01 PM
The only log I am aware of is this one:
http://www.southeastroads.com/la_state_highways.html
It is missing several minor routes that I know of. One that comes to mind right now is LA 1138-1. Some of the newer routes (e.g., 1256, 1258) are also missing.
That log is the one that I use, and was referring to. I've never heard of LA 1256 though.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 18, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
I've never heard of LA 1256 though.
It's in Sulphur. You can see it on the Calcasieu_West map from the DOTD website. Although that map shows it running from US 90 down to LA 108, it's signed only from I-10 down to 108. As far as I know, it used to be part of LA 27; LA 27's current route from Lewis St. (north of Sulphur) to LA 108 used to be LA 3077. LA 27 used to split from it's current route and follow Lewis St. to US 90, US 90 to S. Huntington St., and S. Huntington St./Ruth St. to LA 108.
I just noticed that LA 388 is not shown on that Calcasieu map. I don't know whether it has been decommissioned or accidentally left off. It ran along Edgerly Dequincy Rd. from US 90 at Edgerly north about 3 miles. I haven't driven it, so I don't know whether it is signed. Google still shows it.
When you ask about highways that have been removed, do you mean former highways no longer shown on the DOTD maps, or highways still shown on the maps, but which have actually been decommissioned? Or both perhaps?
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Quote from: mcdonaat on June 18, 2012, 09:01:36 PM
I've never heard of LA 1256 though.
It's in Sulphur. You can see it on the Calcasieu_West map from the DOTD website. Although that map shows it running from US 90 down to LA 108, it's signed only from I-10 down to 108. As far as I know, it used to be part of LA 27; LA 27's current route from Lewis St. (north of Sulphur) to LA 108 used to be LA 3077. LA 27 used to split from it's current route and follow Lewis St. to US 90, US 90 to S. Huntington St., and S. Huntington St./Ruth St. to LA 108.
I just noticed that LA 388 is not shown on that Calcasieu map. I don't know whether it has been decommissioned or accidentally left off. It ran along Edgerly Dequincy Rd. from US 90 at Edgerly north about 3 miles. I haven't driven it, so I don't know whether it is signed. Google still shows it.
When you ask about highways that have been removed, do you mean former highways no longer shown on the DOTD maps, or highways still shown on the maps, but which have actually been decommissioned? Or both perhaps?
Preferably both. Some routes are signed where there is no more route under that name (example being US 61/190 By-Pass in Baton Rouge, which is now mainline US 61/190), some routes are signed where state maintenance is gone (LA 8 was signed for a while along Ulster Street in Boyce), and some routes have been removed, like LA 782-1 in Shreveport. Just a general change of highways would be what I'm interested in.
By the way, the South Traffic Circle is about to be changed... I've heard that Masonic Drive will no longer be US 165 Business, with Jackson Street carrying that designation, and LA 488 extended up Jackson Street to meet MacArthur Drive. North Third Street (1208-4) will be signed as LA 1 Truck or LA 1 Bypass to route traffic to the Fort Buhlow bridge, Sterkx (1208-2) will be resigned as a plain 1208 for DOTD use, and the weird LA 1208-1 will be resigned as LA 3250, which is currently just Sugarhouse Road. When the Sugarhouse Extension is done, it will be signed as TO LA 1, hidden route 3290. Just rumors, but they might have credibility. Noticed the Cenlaroads username, figured I'd share it!
LA 1087 is no longer a state highway, add that one to your list. It was turned back to the city of Mandeville a couple of years ago.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 18, 2012, 11:37:57 PM
Preferably both. Some routes are signed where there is no more route under that name (example being US 61/190 By-Pass in Baton Rouge, which is now mainline US 61/190), some routes are signed where state maintenance is gone (LA 8 was signed for a while along Ulster Street in Boyce), and some routes have been removed, like LA 782-1 in Shreveport. Just a general change of highways would be what I'm interested in.
By the way, the South Traffic Circle is about to be changed... I've heard that Masonic Drive will no longer be US 165 Business, with Jackson Street carrying that designation, and LA 488 extended up Jackson Street to meet MacArthur Drive. North Third Street (1208-4) will be signed as LA 1 Truck or LA 1 Bypass to route traffic to the Fort Buhlow bridge, Sterkx (1208-2) will be resigned as a plain 1208 for DOTD use, and the weird LA 1208-1 will be resigned as LA 3250, which is currently just Sugarhouse Road. When the Sugarhouse Extension is done, it will be signed as TO LA 1, hidden route 3290. Just rumors, but they might have credibility. Noticed the Cenlaroads username, figured I'd share it!
So is all of that a rumor or have you seen it somewhere? That's crazy.
I like the idea of Bus 165 being moved to Jackson St because then it would actually connect at LA1/LA28 bus at Bolton St. instead of zig-zagging near the zoo. Except that Jackson St. is really really narrow around Texas Ave. It will make for some new signage at the circle too.
I've always seen on maps that 488 supposedly goes all the way to Sterkx Rd (is it 1208-2 or 3?) but it isn't signed that way, it only goes as far as Jackson St. If they do move it it would be ok, as long as it's actually signed.
How would the Truck 1 work? Obviously 1208-4 isn't signed now and how would it connect to 1 with the hospital in the way and all?
I'm from that area too. Actually Shreveport but my wife is from Pineville.
That would be quite a change! I don't think that 1208-4 is still a state route. The city sold part of the road to the hospital a few years ago. I know it hasn't been signed for years.
Right now, 488 stops at Jackson St. Sterkx is 1208-2 from Horseshoe to MacArthur. Jackson is 1208-3 from Horseshoe to Bolton.
It's a rumor, and its not written down anywhere. If it's true, though, the change will be soon, since I've seen plans for Clearviewing the traffic circle (the only BGS setups I've seen are US 71 South/TO US 167 - Opelousas, Baton Rouge; US 165 North/US 71 North - Monroe, Shreveport). I would assume that Alternate LA 1 (I typed Truck LA 1 by accident) would follow Main Street to Jackson Street south, to 6th Street to Monroe Street to North Third. It would then access the port, then turn towards mainline LA 1.
LA 488 does end at Jackson Street, making it one of a few instances where a Louisiana highway changes numbers for its route. LA 488 ends at LA 1208-3, and LA 1208-3 ends at LA 488, both at the same intersection. The only reason 1208-2 exists is to give the DOTD a road to use to access the headquarters. I've heard Masonic Drive is being given to the city anyways, with the whole street calming (which is needed, with all of the people trying to dart across at the hospital and parks).
Quote from: Darkchylde on June 19, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
LA 1087 is no longer a state highway, add that one to your list. It was turned back to the city of Mandeville a couple of years ago.
Thanks for that! It's changed and live! Head on over to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbered_highways_in_Louisiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbered_highways_in_Louisiana) to see the changes made.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 04:52:46 PM
It's a rumor, and its not written down anywhere. If it's true, though, the change will be soon, since I've seen plans for Clearviewing the traffic circle (the only BGS setups I've seen are US 71 South/TO US 167 - Opelousas, Baton Rouge; US 165 North/US 71 North - Monroe, Shreveport). I would assume that Alternate LA 1 (I typed Truck LA 1 by accident) would follow Main Street to Jackson Street south, to 6th Street to Monroe Street to North Third. It would then access the port, then turn towards mainline LA 1.
LA 488 does end at Jackson Street, making it one of a few instances where a Louisiana highway changes numbers for its route. LA 488 ends at LA 1208-3, and LA 1208-3 ends at LA 488, both at the same intersection. The only reason 1208-2 exists is to give the DOTD a road to use to access the headquarters. I've heard Masonic Drive is being given to the city anyways, with the whole street calming (which is needed, with all of the people trying to dart across at the hospital and parks).
Rapides Parish (east) DOTD map (updated as of 3/2/12) already shows Masonic/US 165B turned back. A short stub extending just north from the south circle is shown designated as LA 1208-5. Also noticed that LA 3263 (Pinegrove Drive) in Pineville is gone which renders that route quite short lived.
Pretty certain that LA 488 once continued along Horseshoe Drive to end at Macarthur Drive/Lee Drive. State route numbers in La. don't normally end at each other as a general rule, so this is a product of route turnback.
Also according to the Jefferson Parish maps, much of the 611 and 560 hyphenate "families" are now gone - specifically, routes 611-2, 4, 5, 7, and 8, 611-3 north of Jefferson Highway, LA 3261 and 3262 which were former portions of 611 routes, and routes 560-1 and 560-3. Can confirm that signage for at least the erased 611-x routes have been removed. Also removed in the same area is LA 3046 Spur which only intersected the frontage roads of its parent. All local roads that should have been removed years ago - good riddance. Seems that these routes may have been what were swapped out in return for bringing the entirety of Clearview Parkway under state maintenance. Next on the list IMO should be the unsigned and useless 574-x routes in Grand Isle.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 04:52:46 PM
The only reason 1208-2 exists is to give the DOTD a road to use to access the headquarters. I've heard Masonic Drive is being given to the city anyways, with the whole street calming (which is needed, with all of the people trying to dart across at the hospital and parks).
I wonder why DOTD thinks that any road leading to one of their facilities needs to be a state highway. LA 1242, 3281, and 3237 all come to mind just of the highways I've driven. I suppose I can understand maintaining the road, but it doesn't need to be numbered and signed.
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 19, 2012, 07:32:09 PM
Pretty certain that LA 488 once continued along Horseshoe Drive to end at Macarthur Drive/Lee Drive. State route numbers in La. don't normally end at each other as a general rule, so this is a product of route turnback.
This is my understanding as well.
I just checked the parish maps, and it seems that LA 1208-4 has been removed. I did notice that LA 3263 was gone. LA 180 also seems to have been decommissioned.
One mistake I have noticed on Wikipedia is on the article for LA 798-3. The route also consists of the 4 blocks around the Bienville Parish courthouse, not only Locust Street. Some of the blocks are even signed.
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I wonder why DOTD thinks that any road leading to one of their facilities needs to be a state highway. LA 1242, 3281, and 3237 all come to mind just of the highways I've driven. I suppose I can understand maintaining the road, but it doesn't need to be numbered and signed.
Even on the proposed resizing maps, DOTD wants to keep the connections to their district HQs (if not already on a regular state route) and even a few maintenance yards. Guess they don't want to be reliant on the local maintenance authorities for access to their facilities. I don't understand it myself, either.
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I just checked the parish maps, and it seems that LA 1208-4 has been removed. I did notice that LA 3263 was gone. LA 180 also seems to have been decommissioned.
LA 1208-4 is shown as a road extending from the vicinity of LA 3250 south via Eddie Williams Ave (parallel to I-49 and US 71/167). Or is this still part of 1208-1? I wonder if 1208-4 is referring to LA 3250 instead (that number is not labeled).
In the 1955 route log, LA 1208-5 was West Shamrock Street from Main Street in Pineville to the "west city limit" which I assume was at that time near the grounds of the Central La. State Hospital. Also there was a LA 1208-6 which comprised Baywood Drive in Pineville between US 165 and US 165 Business.
I believe LA 180 still exists (albeit significantly truncated) as the short connector road between US 71 and US 165 just north of their split in Pineville. Why this connector should by itself require a separate route number, I have no idea. Google Streetview turns up no signage there other than for the US routes.
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I just checked the parish maps, and it seems that LA 1208-4 has been removed. I did notice that LA 3263 was gone. LA 180 also seems to have been decommissioned.
LA 1208-4 is shown as a road extending from the vicinity of LA 3250 south via Eddie Williams Ave (parallel to I-49 and US 71/167). Or is this still part of 1208-1? I wonder if 1208-4 is referring to LA 3250 instead (that number is not labeled).
In the 1955 route log, LA 1208-5 was West Shamrock Street from Main Street in Pineville to the "west city limit" which I assume was at that time near the grounds of the Central La. State Hospital. Also there was a LA 1208-6 which comprised Baywood Drive in Pineville between US 165 and US 165 Business.
I believe LA 180 still exists (albeit significantly truncated) as the short connector road between US 71 and US 165 just north of their split in Pineville. Why this connector should by itself require a separate route number, I have no idea. Google Streetview turns up no signage there other than for the US routes.
LA 1208-4 used to begin at MacArthur Dr. and follow N. 3rd Street to where it became a duplex of 3rd and 4th Streets, and then continued to LA 1. About 5-7 years ago, the City of Alexandria sold part of 3rd Street to Rapides Regional Medical Center to build an expansion. Since the city sold the road, I assume the highway had been turned back to them.
I believe that portion of Eddie Williams Ave. is still part of LA 1208-1, but I can't say that with certainty.
Ah, I had forgotten about that segment of 180 between the 71/165 split. I was thinking of the original routing between US 71 and Military Highway (US 165 Business). It may still exist.
Thanks for the help, guys! If the maps have been released, which they have, then it means the maps are official. I can change the LA 798-3 article, but Streetview shows no signs. A few notes are below:
1) LA 180 used to extend from US 71 all the way to Military Hwy. If you go along BUS US 165, you will see a sign directing motorists north to Monroe, and northwest along the old LA 180 to Shreveport. A DOTD official told me that the sign was placed at the intersection of LA 180 and US 165 Business.
2) Eddie Williams is still part of LA 1208-1, since a quick check showed a sign for LA 1208-1 south of I-49, and a sign on LA 1, both of which are the termini.
3) If someone can post some maps of Rapides Parish at five- or ten-year intervals, it would be helpful! It looks like we might have a few different routes being reused, something that the DOTD explicitly doesn't allow. I saw the mention of a 1955 route log... any chance I can see it? Since I consider myself, along with Britinvasion64, the keepers of Louisiana's Wikipedia highway articles, it would be a great help!
4) I wish Louisiana could do something unique... take the roads that are used to access DOTD maintenance yards and number them M-XX routes. Seems weird, but M stands for Maintenance, with the XX referring to the district. Most smaller maintenance yards are placed along pre-existing major highways that aren't going anywhere, and the headquarter buildings are going to be using the smaller roads. Sterkx could be renumbered as M-08, Monroe could have M-05, and Baton Rouge's Capitol Access Road could be renumbered M-61. Arkansas does the same thing with airport and university roads, in a sense.
5) LA 180 seems to have lost its use, really, since the expressway was built. It was a way for people to take the Murray Street bridge through Main Street on US 165 Business, then hop to US 71/167 to Tioga. That has been replaced, in essence, by the Pineville Expressway, itself LA 3026.
The 1955 renumbering of Louisiana's highways was the result of Act 40 of the 1955 Acts of Louisiana. The Act itself listed and described every highway from 1 to 1241, including many which have long since been decommissioned. The only way I know of seeing it is to look in a physical copy of the Acts of 1955. I looked at and photocopied the volume in LSU's Middleton library, but any university library should have a set. The photocopies would be a bit much for me to scan all at once, but if you want to know the original routing of any highway, just pm me and I'll be glad to send the info to you. Even a lot of extant highways once had somewhat surprisingly different routes than they now do.
I thought that there was a sign for LA 798-3 looking northbound on Maple St., but sure enough Google doesn't show one. It may have been added since those pictures were taken. The route consists of Locust St., S. Beech St., Chestnut St., and Maple St.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 09:00:53 PM
3) If someone can post some maps of Rapides Parish at five- or ten-year intervals, it would be helpful! It looks like we might have a few different routes being reused, something that the DOTD explicitly doesn't allow. I saw the mention of a 1955 route log... any chance I can see it? Since I consider myself, along with Britinvasion64, the keepers of Louisiana's Wikipedia highway articles, it would be a great help!
5) LA 180 seems to have lost its use, really, since the expressway was built. It was a way for people to take the Murray Street bridge through Main Street on US 165 Business, then hop to US 71/167 to Tioga. That has been replaced, in essence, by the Pineville Expressway, itself LA 3026.
LA 180 used to be part of US 71 from 1926 until the Long-Allen Bridge was opened in 1935 or whereabouts. Since it was part of the Jefferson Highway and served as part of a defacto business route for US 71 after 1935, that explains why such a short route received a primary route number.
University and parish libraries may also have older copies of DOTD/Dept. of Highways parish maps which show older state highways. I know that UNO had an incomplete set of early 1930s parish maps in their Louisiana collection when I was there (early 2000s). Here is a link to a EBR Parish map from 1937: http://cdm16340.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15196coll4/id/44
The 1940 U.S. Census also has a (probably full) set of county maps: http://1940census.archives.gov/search/
That 1937 map shows everything wrong with the 1920's highway system. LA 1318 1/2?? Almost matches LA 99 1/2 in North Louisiana. Imagine your GPS: "In 200 feet, turn right onto Highway 99 and one half. Then, in 2 miles, turn left onto Highway C-1240.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
That 1937 map shows everything wrong with the 1920's highway system. LA 1318 1/2?? Almost matches LA 99 1/2 in North Louisiana. Imagine your GPS: "In 200 feet, turn right onto Highway 99 and one half. Then, in 2 miles, turn left onto Highway C-1240.
Also note the haphazard and, shall I say, unorthodox trajectories of the numbered designations. LA 1108 overlaps other routes for its entire length; looks like 1318 1/2 magically turns into 877 at the Comite River; also note the routing of LA 276. Most of this nonsense is related to the content of the route descriptions in the original legislative acts.
I still would like to know what "C" routes represented. My wild guess is that they are La. Hwy.
Commission assigned numbers as opposed to legislatively assigned numbers.
Looks like only the major roads were completely paved at the time; most of the roads were gravel surfaced. And this was within living memory.
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 19, 2012, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
That 1937 map shows everything wrong with the 1920's highway system. LA 1318 1/2?? Almost matches LA 99 1/2 in North Louisiana. Imagine your GPS: "In 200 feet, turn right onto Highway 99 and one half. Then, in 2 miles, turn left onto Highway C-1240.
Also note the haphazard and, shall I say, unorthodox trajectories of the numbered designations. LA 1108 overlaps other routes for its entire length; looks like 1318 1/2 magically turns into 877 at the Comite River; also note the routing of LA 276. Most of this nonsense is related to the content of the route descriptions in the original legislative acts.
I still would like to know what "C" routes represented. My wild guess is that they are La. Hwy. Commission assigned numbers as opposed to legislatively assigned numbers.
Looks like only the major roads were completely paved at the time; most of the roads were gravel surfaced. And this was within living memory.
The only thing is... the LHC was changed to the LDH in the early 40's, and State Route C-2080 was created in the late 40's. I can ask around for sure, but I would love to know why. Just for kicks, State Route C-2080 is now LA 28. Also, State Route 21 is now LA 121. State Route 6 is now LA 6, and State Route 15 is now LA 15. But hey, our state isn't exactly the best. I'll pay $25 to the person who can program a GPS to display the old route numbers!
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 11:48:41 PM
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 19, 2012, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 19, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
That 1937 map shows everything wrong with the 1920's highway system. LA 1318 1/2?? Almost matches LA 99 1/2 in North Louisiana. Imagine your GPS: "In 200 feet, turn right onto Highway 99 and one half. Then, in 2 miles, turn left onto Highway C-1240.
Also note the haphazard and, shall I say, unorthodox trajectories of the numbered designations. LA 1108 overlaps other routes for its entire length; looks like 1318 1/2 magically turns into 877 at the Comite River; also note the routing of LA 276. Most of this nonsense is related to the content of the route descriptions in the original legislative acts.
I still would like to know what "C" routes represented. My wild guess is that they are La. Hwy. Commission assigned numbers as opposed to legislatively assigned numbers.
Looks like only the major roads were completely paved at the time; most of the roads were gravel surfaced. And this was within living memory.
The only thing is... the LHC was changed to the LDH in the early 40's, and State Route C-2080 was created in the late 40's. I can ask around for sure, but I would love to know why. Just for kicks, State Route C-2080 is now LA 28. Also, State Route 21 is now LA 121. State Route 6 is now LA 6, and State Route 15 is now LA 15. But hey, our state isn't exactly the best. I'll pay $25 to the person who can program a GPS to display the old route numbers!
You'll need more than $25. More like $25 K to pay folks to locate, then plot the routes, compile the numbers and end points for the routes in a database (or 2), just so one can create a GIS layer that can be plugged into a GPS unit (or more simply, any internet map program).
Some lost state highways from EBR Parish, courtesy of Act 40 of 1955:
La 32 - From a junction with La 30 in Baton Rouge to the State Capitol Building. [Third Street?]
La 425 - From a junction with La 30 south of Essen to La 427, near Essen. [Staring Lane]
La 947 - From a junction with La-US 190 approximately 2.2 miles east of the Baton Rouge By-Pass through or near Sharp Station to a junction with La 37 (excluding approximately 0.4 mile within the US Engineer Depot) [N. Sherwood Forest Drive]
La 949 - From a junction with La 425 southwest of Essen to a junction with La 427 southeast of Essen [Hyacinth St]
La 950 - Comprises the following sections of streets not otherwise numbered in the Baton Rouge area:
1) North 3rd and Choctaw Drive from Dunbar to Plank Road.
2) North 17th and Foss Drive from Ellerslie (extension) to Scenic Highway.
3) North Street from N 21st to N Foster Drive.
4) North Blvd. from N 22nd St. to Edison.
5) Reymond, Eugene, and Buckner Dr. [this is all Eugene St. today] from Perkins Road to North Blvd.
6) Edison from Government to North Blvd.
7) Government from St. Rose Ave. to S. Foster Dr.
8 ) Government St. and Lobdell Ave. from Jefferson Highway to Jefferson Highway.
9) N. Stadium Rd. and Dalrymple Dr. fron Nicholson Dr. to March St.
10) Highland Rd. from Nicholson Dr. Ext. to Terrace.
11) W. Campus Rd. loop from Stadium Dr. to Dalrymple Dr.
12) S. Stadium Rd. and S. Campus Dr. from Nicholson Dr. to Tower Rd.
13) Tower Rd. from S. Campus Dr. to Dalrymple Dr.
14) Raphael Semmes Rd. from Tower Dr. to Highland Rd.
15) Tower Circle from Raphael Semmes Rd. to Tower Dr. to Dalrymple Dr.
16) Highway Testing Lab Drives.
17) State Police Headquarters Drives.
1955 routing of La 30 - Beginning in Darrow, via the current routes of LA 75 and LA 327 to Gardere Lane, Highland Road, Nicholson Dr. Extension, Nicholson Drive, St. Phillip/St. Louis Sts., Third/Lafayette Sts., Florida Street ending at Business US 61-190 at Acadian Thruway.
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 20, 2012, 10:11:40 PM
Some lost state highways from EBR Parish, courtesy of Act 40 of 1955:
La 32 - From a junction with La 30 in Baton Rouge to the State Capitol Building. [Third Street?]
3rd, 4th, and 5th streets are the only options I can think of, but I don't know anything about the history of downtown Baton Rouge's roads. Do you or does anyone else know where the highway testing lab is/was?
Quote from: cenlaroads on June 20, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 20, 2012, 10:11:40 PM
Some lost state highways from EBR Parish, courtesy of Act 40 of 1955:
La 32 - From a junction with La 30 in Baton Rouge to the State Capitol Building. [Third Street?]
3rd, 4th, and 5th streets are the only options I can think of, but I don't know anything about the history of downtown Baton Rouge's roads. Do you or does anyone else know where the highway testing lab is/was?
The testing lab is at the SE corner of Florida Blvd. and N. Foster Drive.
It ain't perfect, but Google Books has "snippet view" of the laws: http://books.google.com/books?id=uXZGAQAAIAAJ&q=%22la+32%22 There seem to be several different years here.
http://ims.er.usgs.gov/gda_services/download?item_id=5588172&quad=Baton%20Rouge%20West&state=LA&grid=7.5X7.5&series=Map%20GeoPDF
http://ims.er.usgs.gov/gda_services/download?item_id=5588174&quad=Baton%20Rouge%20West&state=LA&grid=7.5X7.5&series=Map%20GeoPDF
I don't see anything that could have been LA 32 (and note that LA 30 appears to end downtown, not at Florida and Acadian). (The latter shows the south end of I-110 as I-410 - !)
Here are some former 3000 series LA routes.
LA 3035 - This was Sullivan Road in East Baton Rouge Parish from LA 37 to LA 3034.
LA 3052 - This was a temporary designation for the US 90 expressway through Terrebonne and Lafourche Parishes while the road was under construction.
LA 3077 - This is now LA 27's current route from Lewis St. north of Sulphur to LA 108.
LA 3175 - This is now LA 6 from its north junction with LA 6 Business to LA 1.
LA 3198 - While US 90 was being upgraded, after the bypass of Raceland was complete, this route was current LA 182 from US 90 to LA 1 on the west side of Bayou Lafourche.
LA 3199 - This was current LA 182 from US 90 to LA 308, on the east side of Bayou Lafourche.
According to the DOTD, highways can be relocated without legislative permission, per Act 74 of 1932 (about the same time that the C routes showed up. C routes are for Commission-designated routes, which are basically routes that the Commisssion made for the general public use. An example would be C-1500, which would become US 61/190 By-Pass. It was pooled together from a few different local dirt roads, realigned, and paved.
As for the last map that shows I-110 as I-410, plans were still up in the air to spur I-110 along its current route, then via Airline Highway to I-12. The neat thing, though, is that I-110 is older than I-10.
For Alexandria-area, LA 180 has not been deleted, but shortened to the connector road between US 71 and US 165. Baton Rouge-area has had LA 987-1/-2 deleted, and are going to be resigned as TO LA 1/TO US 190 in one direction, and TO LA 986 in the other. As far as Staring Lane being an older state route, I actually use a bypassed segment of Perkins Road to access Bluebonnet when coming from work (at the corner of Highland and Staring). I simply head up State Route 887 (Staring), then turn at State Route 275 (Hyacinth). It makes for a hell of a shortcut! A bridge stamped with State Route 887 still exists along Staring Lane, and is completely exposed due to construction.
Here are a few more decommissioned routes I know of (I'm only listing highways I have driven):
LA 393 — Abie Fontenot Road from LA 383 to US 165 (north of Iowa)
LA 446 — In Livingston Parish, Gum Swamp Rd. from LA 42 near Frost to LA 444 near Bayou Barbary
LA 825 — Pilgrim's Rest Church Rd. in Union Parish, from LA 15 to AR state line
LA 929 — This is now Ascension Parish Route 929.
LA 962 — Wadd Kent Rd. from LA 67 northwest about 2.4 miles (north of Clinton)
LA 974 — Warranka Rd. from LA 10 south 0.8 miles (beginning about 2 miles west of Morganza)
LA 980 — This is now West End Drive in New Roads
LA 1021 — Amite Church Rd. from LA 1019 east about .2 miles (north of Denham Springs)
LA 1060 — Arcola Rd. from US 51 about 2.3 miles northwest (north of Roseland in Tangipahoa Parish)
LA 1149 — This is now the segment of LA 383 from Jefferson Davis parish line to US 165. LA 383 formerly consisted only of that portion from US 90 north
about 10.3 miles.
LA 1154 — East River Rd. from LA 1153 to Rapides Parish line (north of Oakdale)
LA 1202 — N. Bayou Rapides Road from LA 496 to LA 496, near the Alexandria airport. It's still labeled on Google maps.
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 20, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
The testing lab is at the SE corner of Florida Blvd. and N. Foster Drive.
Thanks! I must have passed that building a hundred times then without knowing what it was.
Quote from: NE2 on June 20, 2012, 11:39:28 PM
I don't see anything that could have been LA 32 (and note that LA 30 appears to end downtown, not at Florida and Acadian). (The latter shows the south end of I-110 as I-410 - !)
Link to 1955 BR map with major routes labelled:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77396241@N02/7416877896/in/photostream
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 21, 2012, 07:31:00 PM
Quote from: NE2 on June 20, 2012, 11:39:28 PM
I don't see anything that could have been LA 32 (and note that LA 30 appears to end downtown, not at Florida and Acadian). (The latter shows the south end of I-110 as I-410 - !)
Link to 1955 BR map with major routes labelled:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77396241@N02/7416877896/in/photostream
Would it be safe to assume that US 61/190 didn't ever go down the street configuration that US 61/190 Business go down today? Also noticed LA 1 using what is now LA 987-X streets through downtown Port Allen. It might be one of the instances where a rerouted original state route runs along its old route (the pre-1955 LA 1 and post-1955 LA 1 used the same surface street for a moment).
Interesting - I suppose the present Chippewa-3rd-River connection didn't exist yet. My guess is that LA 30 was the 3rd-Lafayette one-way pair, and became part of US 61-190 Biz soon after the renumbering.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 21, 2012, 07:41:07 PM
Would it be safe to assume that US 61/190 didn't ever go down the street configuration that US 61/190 Business go down today?
The 1953 topo I linked shows it on 3rd/Lafayette-3rd-Choctaw-Scenic. Not exactly the same as now, but close.
I guess US 61/190 Business isn't exactly the original routing through downtown, but it was shifted to those routes to avoid the construction with I-110, and left there. US 190 used to end at the ferry, so the route was a reverting back to the original alignment, in some respects.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 21, 2012, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 21, 2012, 07:31:00 PM
Quote from: NE2 on June 20, 2012, 11:39:28 PM
I don't see anything that could have been LA 32 (and note that LA 30 appears to end downtown, not at Florida and Acadian). (The latter shows the south end of I-110 as I-410 - !)
Link to 1955 BR map with major routes labelled:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77396241@N02/7416877896/in/photostream
Would it be safe to assume that US 61/190 didn't ever go down the street configuration that US 61/190 Business go down today? Also noticed LA 1 using what is now LA 987-X streets through downtown Port Allen. It might be one of the instances where a rerouted original state route runs along its old route (the pre-1955 LA 1 and post-1955 LA 1 used the same surface street for a moment).
These are the various iterations of route alignments for US 61/190 (and US 65 to early 1950s) through BR to the best of my knowledge:
Original late 1920s alignment: Old Hammond Hwy. (US 190); Jefferson Hwy. (US 61 and 190 past OHH intersection) to Clay Cut Rd., Claycut to Westmoreland (S. Acadian Thwy.), Westmoreland to Gov't, Gov't to Dufrocq (19th), Dufrocq to North Street, North Street to Jackson Road (Scenic Hwy. – US 61 only). US 190 proceeded west on North St. to the old Miss. River ferry landing where it ended (it was extended across the river ca. 1935).
In 1936-7: OHH/US 190 and US 61/Jefferson Hwy. to Gov't, Gov't to Foster, Foster to North Street, North to Bayou Sara Road (Scenic Hwy.). US 190 continued west via North Street to the ferry landing.
In 1939: OHH/Jeff Hy. to Gov't, Gov't to Dufrocq (19th), Dufrocq to North Street; US 190 west to ferry, US 61/65 east to Bayou Sara Road
US 190 was moved from Old Hammond and Jefferson Hwys. onto newly constructed Florida Blvd. in 1940. The route it met its old alignment at 19th and turned north to follow US 61/65 to the new Airline Highway bypass in Scotlandville (at what is likely Louisiana's oldest interchange). US 190 was moved to the Huey P. Long bridge (the "old" Miss. River bridge) in 1940 and removed from the ferry route, though the ferry itself continued to operate until 1968. The Airline 'bypass route' was Bypass US 61/190.
From the late 40s to around 1954: US 61/65 entered BR via Jefferson Hwy., then to Government Street, East Blvd., North Blvd., to Lafayette/3rd couplet, merging together as N. 3rd St. near the State Capitol, then north to Choctaw Drive, then east to Scenic Hwy. US 190 met this route at Florida St. and continued to the north from there. US 65 was removed around 1951.
In 1955: US 61/190 paired along Florida Blvd. from the traffic circle (now interchange) at Airline Hwy., then west to Margaretta St. (Acadian Thruway), then north on Margaretta to North St., then west on North St. to Scenic Highway, and Scenic Hwy. northward.
In 1956: Florida Blvd. to N. 9th/N. 10th couplet, merging at the future Governor's Mansion curve into the original portion of the "Baton Rouge Freeway" (originally proposed as I-410, became part of I-110) to an exit at Scenic Hy., thence northward on Scenic.
Sometime around 1960-61, US 61/190 (now business) moved to the present route via River Road and Chippewa Street when those roadways were constructed.
The present Airline Highway bypass was signed as Bypass 61/190 until some point in the early 1960s.
Actually, I want you to hop on the old bridge from LA 1-area and travel into Baton Rouge, and count the number of By-Pass shields. It's signed still, but its not officially US 61/190 Bypass, just US 61/190. I still refer to it as the bypass, actually. US 61/190 By-Pass shields aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and if they are, I have my hand in the hat for grabbing one.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 21, 2012, 07:58:41 PM
I guess US 61/190 Business isn't exactly the original routing through downtown, but it was shifted to those routes to avoid the construction with I-110, and left there. US 190 used to end at the ferry, so the route was a reverting back to the original alignment, in some respects.
Downtown BR was not conveniently sited in relation to the historical north-south major routes, being situated as such between the refinery on the north and the LSU campus on the south. I think the alignment has moved a number of times as access has been improved, especially from the north.
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 21, 2012, 08:17:32 PM
Actually, I want you to hop on the old bridge from LA 1-area and travel into Baton Rouge, and count the number of By-Pass shields. It's signed still, but its not officially US 61/190 Bypass, just US 61/190. I still refer to it as the bypass, actually. US 61/190 By-Pass shields aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and if they are, I have my hand in the hat for grabbing one.
I know the shields are there, but since they don't look as if they've been changed out since the sixties, I consider them to be relics and thus superseded. Cool relics, but relics nevertheless.
The coolest thing though, relic-wise, is the remaining cat-eye reflectors on the US 61/190 cloverleaf near Southern. If you turn your brights on, the reflectors still say US 61, and reflect pretty well, in my opinion. I've heard that the state MIGHT place old-style US cutout shields along the business routes around the state, where people know the roads by ___ Street or _____ Blvd, instead of the numbers.
Quote from: cenlaroads on June 20, 2012, 11:53:48 PM
LA 3175 - This is now LA 6 from its north junction with LA 6 Business to LA 1.
I wonder if this was decided when they built that by-pass? I've never in my whole life seen that signed, it's always been LA 1 and LA 6. However in the past few years when they redid the street signs in that part of town and renamed the street in front of NSU campus to University Parkway, the street blades on the bypass say LA 3175.
I don't know when the bypass was built, but the situation may have been the same as it was with the US 90 expressway bypass of Houma, when the partially completed road was named LA 3052 until the entire road was completed. Perhaps the section once called 3175 was built first, and when the entire bypass was complete, it was renamed?
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 21, 2012, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: mcdonaat on June 21, 2012, 08:17:32 PM
Actually, I want you to hop on the old bridge from LA 1-area and travel into Baton Rouge, and count the number of By-Pass shields. It's signed still, but its not officially US 61/190 Bypass, just US 61/190. I still refer to it as the bypass, actually. US 61/190 By-Pass shields aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and if they are, I have my hand in the hat for grabbing one.
I know the shields are there, but since they don't look as if they've been changed out since the sixties, I consider them to be relics and thus superseded. Cool relics, but relics nevertheless.
They're regular shields. It's the bypass directionals above them that makes them "special." Considering the gun-play going on around EBR Parish, I don't see anyone risking their life to pick one of those "bypass" additions off.
Plus the fact that anyone can report you, it's right there on mainline Airline. If anyone wants to steal a sign, just steal one from an unknown route!
are any of the shields the old 16" size?
Nope! They're 24-inch shields. I was told by someone that manages signing that the project was to simply replace the shields. The idea is that the road was signed as By-Pass US 61/190 for 40+ years in the field, and it doesn't bother the younger people. Older people still call it the Bypass, so it makes sense to sign it as such. However, they're not a priority issue, so it's no biggie. Makes for a neat thing to point out though.
Speaking of rerouted highways, US 165 BUS has been shifted along La. 1 North to the interchange with MacArthur Drive. The new Clearview/FHWA hybrid signs show the rerouting, but the Masonic Drive exit on the South Circle has no mention of La. 1208-5.
A couple of former routes I just learned about,
LA 455 was the portion of current LA 115 from LA 28 to LA 1207. Coming from Effie, LA 115 turned to the northwest at Deville to end at Holloway. LA 1207 consisted only of that portion east of LA 115.
LA 1214 was the portion of LA 121 that now runs from its western terminus at LA 8 to LA 28.
I lived in Baton Rouge for a time as a kid. Visited a few years ago and learned a couple of things: 1. The place where I grew up is now the site of a Home Depot; 2. Airline Highway is still just as rough a ride as it was back then.
Airline hopefully will be getting resurfaced soon. I've heard talks about doing it at night, in small segments. The idea is never to close the highway to major traffic. But, then again, those are just talks! It's desperately needed. I would even advocate a concrete highway instead of asphalt, with the heavy traffic it receives. I've seen in North Louisiana where the road is concrete, and the shoulders are asphalt. What I really like is where the road is asphalt, and the shoulder is gravel. It helps slow you down!
Just got my hands on some maps from 1958, showing routes that are deleted. It seems, though, that US 61/190 Business actually used the Baton Rouge Expressway, now known as I-110, from Plank Road to Florida Blvd.
Also seeing that LA 42 and LA 30 used Highland Road, Nicholson wasn't built yet, LA 68 used the US 61 alignment north of Baton Rouge while US 61 used Old Scenic Highway. Government Street was LA 950-7 for a while, LA 427 used Perkins for its entire route, and Old Perkins (now Hyacinth) was LA 949, while Staring was LA 425.
LA 408 extended into Southern, and LA 28 didn't extend across the Catahoula Lake Outlet at the time. LA 37 also extended all the way to Florida Blvd. It's a weird thing to look at a map and see roads not existing where bottlenecks occur today.
Quote from: cenlaroads on June 18, 2012, 06:42:01 PM
The only log I am aware of is this one:
http://www.southeastroads.com/la_state_highways.html
It is missing several minor routes that I know of. One that comes to mind right now is LA 1138-1. Some of the newer routes (e.g., 1256, 1258) are also missing.
I emailed LADOTD for a route log or list of state highways back then and they gave me a copy of the spreadsheet Geographic Feature File for all of the State Maintained Highways in Louisiana. Spent several days in 2003 extracting the endpoints and typing all of this into html. A few years later when working for Mapsource, I requested an update of the file and was emailed one. I neglected to keep a copy of that when the map company folded, so in 2008 I asked again and was told it was no. Maybe mcdonaat can email his contact at LADOTD for the most recent version. I would be happy to help compile an updated log.
I'm going to be at the headquarters tomorrow to look at records showing which routes have been deleted and added, and the dates. By comparing that to LA 1-1241, and the 3000+ routes, I should have a Word document available (can be in PDF too) that will show the routes, the lengths, and the dates that routes have been removed.
can you find any info about route markers? specifications for design, size, and reflectivity standards, and even some general usage info? I'd really like to know when they changed from the pelican to the state outline, for example.
Sure, I can find that out tomorrow. The route log might need to be updated though. I've just received a call from the DOTD Legal Department saying that there are, not kidding, 1400+ routes that have been changed and deleted. I'm getting a list of the highways, so it should be a piece of cake to just slap it into a file.
Per route markers, I'll see what I can do. Friday will be my research day, and I can easily hop over to the state archives or the library at LSU. I'm sure there HAS to be a record of the signs. I'm asking around to see if any photos were taken, dimensions recorded, or even a rare sign intact. The tricky problem is that the highway dept was established in 1924, with routes being marked. There has to be some period where some primitive highway signs were posted. I'll respond back to you when I get dimensions!
Quote from: mcdonaat on July 11, 2012, 03:58:56 PM
Per route markers, I'll see what I can do. Friday will be my research day, and I can easily hop over to the state archives or the library at LSU. I'm sure there HAS to be a record of the signs. I'm asking around to see if any photos were taken, dimensions recorded, or even a rare sign intact. The tricky problem is that the highway dept was established in 1924, with routes being marked. There has to be some period where some primitive highway signs were posted. I'll respond back to you when I get dimensions!
great, thank you! any and all information will be very helpful
Quote from: Alex on July 11, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: cenlaroads on June 18, 2012, 06:42:01 PM
The only log I am aware of is this one:
http://www.southeastroads.com/la_state_highways.html
It is missing several minor routes that I know of. One that comes to mind right now is LA 1138-1. Some of the newer routes (e.g., 1256, 1258) are also missing.
I emailed LADOTD for a route log or list of state highways back then and they gave me a copy of the spreadsheet Geographic Feature File for all of the State Maintained Highways in Louisiana. Spent several days in 2003 extracting the endpoints and typing all of this into html. A few years later when working for Mapsource, I requested an update of the file and was emailed one. I neglected to keep a copy of that when the map company folded, so in 2008 I asked again and was told it was no. Maybe mcdonaat can email his contact at LADOTD for the most recent version. I would be happy to help compile an updated log.
Many thanks for the work you put into making that! I did not realize that it had taken that much time. I knew that the roads it was missing were simply those that had been added since the log was made. I have learned from mcdonaat that the current route LA 1138-1 is not the original one; it was recently recommissioned, having been first deleted before the route log was made.
Quote from: mcdonaat on July 11, 2012, 03:58:56 PM
Sure, I can find that out tomorrow. The route log might need to be updated though. I've just received a call from the DOTD Legal Department saying that there are, not kidding, 1400+ routes that have been changed and deleted. I'm getting a list of the highways, so it should be a piece of cake to just slap it into a file.
Per route markers, I'll see what I can do. Friday will be my research day, and I can easily hop over to the state archives or the library at LSU. I'm sure there HAS to be a record of the signs. I'm asking around to see if any photos were taken, dimensions recorded, or even a rare sign intact. The tricky problem is that the highway dept was established in 1924, with routes being marked. There has to be some period where some primitive highway signs were posted. I'll respond back to you when I get dimensions!
Does the 1400 figure refer to routes changed since the 1955 renumbering? Or is it more recent than that?
The 1400 are roads deleted, added, and swapped since 1955. The pre-1955 routes aren't in this picture.
I'm currently going through Wikipedia and adding parish highway pages for routes that are intersected by the Interstates. If there are any that you would like to personally see put up, let me know! Click on over to I-49, and you can see that PR 620, PR 547, and PR 22 are added, with full pages that look just like the state highway pages, minus the state shield. I'm also making custom parish shields to go with them.
I was in Alexandria/Pineville on a fly by trip to see family in the hospital last weekend. I have lost my camera as of late or I would have taken some pics of the newly routed BUS 165 signs and bgs's. I guess I'm still at a loss for why it was moved. Less zig zags, yes, but it used to follow the original routing. Now if you're coming north on 165 from Lake Charles, it seems weird to me that you would go through most of Alexandria before seeing the Business 165 sign right before you cross the river.
I know mcdonaat is hankering for a 1208-5 or something like it to appear at the South traffic circle, but I didn't see one and I don't think it will make it on there. There is now just a smaller BGS in clearview that says Masonic Drive.
Oh and I did see one leftover Bus 165 sign they missed. Going east/south on Bolton Ave when you get to Lee St the "quadroplex" sign is still present: LA 1, Bus LA 28, and US 165 and US167 with a shared business banner between the 2.
This is an older assembly of what I'm talking about:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=31.302558,-92.451786&spn=0.000009,0.005681&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=31.302354,-92.451551&panoid=fkLhqqUgh6mTzb4iyaVGFg&cbp=12,156.42,,0,11.22
It was moved because Masonic Drive was given to the city, releasing mileage for I-49 South. LA 1208-5 is the new designation of the stub end north of the traffic circle, since all state routes must have a number.
I did notice the US 165 BUS a while back, but never exited to see if they put up new signs along LA 1. The idea was to connect US 165 BUS to US 165 mainline. A general idea is that, if you're coming from the south, you take US 167 BUS. Confusing, yes, but at least the highway alignment was still left to connect to US 165.
Does anyone have any information about the following state highways, including whether they have ever actually existed? For all of these I am asking about the period since the 1955 renumbering. Thanks in advance for any answers!
LA 1251, LA 1255, LA 1257, LA 1259, LA 1260, LA 1261, LA 3004, LA 3010, LA 3016, LA 3022, LA 3023, LA 3027, LA 3028, LA 3029, LA 3030, LA 3031, LA 3047, LA 3053, LA 3058, LA 3065, LA 3080, LA 3084, LA 3085, LA 3088, LA 3106, LA 3108, LA 3109, LA 3110, LA 3111, LA 3114, LA 3117, LA 3119, LA 3122, LA 3126, LA 3129, LA 3133, LA 3135, LA 3145, LA 3157, LA 3167, LA 3171, LA 3172, LA 3176, LA 3183, LA 3189, LA 3192, LA 3200, LA 3204, LA 3207, LA 3208, LA 3216, LA 3222, LA 3230, LA 3236, LA 3240, LA 3243, LA 3268, LA 3270, LA 3271, LA 3272, LA 3273, LA 3283
Quote from: cenlaroads on August 06, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Does anyone have any information about the following state highways, including whether they have ever actually existed? For all of these I am asking about the period since the 1955 renumbering. Thanks in advance for any answers!
LA 1251, LA 1255, LA 1257, LA 1259, LA 1260, LA 1261, LA 3004, LA 3010, LA 3016, LA 3022, LA 3023, LA 3027, LA 3028, LA 3029, LA 3030, LA 3031, LA 3047, LA 3053, LA 3058, LA 3065, LA 3080, LA 3084, LA 3085, LA 3088, LA 3106, LA 3108, LA 3109, LA 3110, LA 3111, LA 3114, LA 3117, LA 3119, LA 3122, LA 3126, LA 3129, LA 3133, LA 3135, LA 3145, LA 3157, LA 3167, LA 3171, LA 3172, LA 3176, LA 3183, LA 3189, LA 3192, LA 3200, LA 3204, LA 3207, LA 3208, LA 3216, LA 3222, LA 3230, LA 3236, LA 3240, LA 3243, LA 3268, LA 3270, LA 3271, LA 3272, LA 3273, LA 3283
-raises hand slightly- shoot me an email, and I'll attach two Word documents. One shows numbers that haven't been used, and the other shows deletions, down to the year.
Quote from: mcdonaat on August 07, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
Quote from: cenlaroads on August 06, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Does anyone have any information about the following state highways, including whether they have ever actually existed? For all of these I am asking about the period since the 1955 renumbering. Thanks in advance for any answers!
LA 1251, LA 1255, LA 1257, LA 1259, LA 1260, LA 1261, LA 3004, LA 3010, LA 3016, LA 3022, LA 3023, LA 3027, LA 3028, LA 3029, LA 3030, LA 3031, LA 3047, LA 3053, LA 3058, LA 3065, LA 3080, LA 3084, LA 3085, LA 3088, LA 3106, LA 3108, LA 3109, LA 3110, LA 3111, LA 3114, LA 3117, LA 3119, LA 3122, LA 3126, LA 3129, LA 3133, LA 3135, LA 3145, LA 3157, LA 3167, LA 3171, LA 3172, LA 3176, LA 3183, LA 3189, LA 3192, LA 3200, LA 3204, LA 3207, LA 3208, LA 3216, LA 3222, LA 3230, LA 3236, LA 3240, LA 3243, LA 3268, LA 3270, LA 3271, LA 3272, LA 3273, LA 3283
-raises hand slightly- shoot me an email, and I'll attach two Word documents. One shows numbers that haven't been used, and the other shows deletions, down to the year.
That would be an awesome thing to have online. If you don't have a place to put it, I raise my hand slightly. (I'm working on a Louisiana update right now, actually, so the timing is right.)
I sent cenlaroads an email with the files attached. I'd like for someone to update the current highways, especially ones that are from around different parts of the state. I'm in the midst of the pre-1955 system, trying to churn out the first 98 articles... about 60 more to go! I'm also wanting a revamping of the page to make it a little less intimidating, but that's on the back burner for now. Once my car is fixed, and the New Orleans roadmeet happens, you'll see some great photos added!
By the way, I invite anyone to check out the new pages for the state highway system, pre-1955. A starting page would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_State_Route_6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_State_Route_6), where the junction list is added, showing ONLY routes 1-98 and US highways, as seen in 1955. As I add routes in groups, I'll update the pages to match. Also, see LA 425's page for a glimpse of the old-style Louisiana shield. LA 1262 also is different, showing the new shield.
Boooo Wikipedia.
Yep! Wikipedia, and I want at least Louisiana to be up-to-par with the other states, mainly Texas and Michigan. The 1940 census is out, I want people to be able to search "Louisiana State Route 4" and come across a wealth of information about the old road.
Quote from: mcdonaat on July 19, 2012, 09:33:04 PM
I did notice the US 165 BUS a while back, but never exited to see if they put up new signs along LA 1.
They did, at least Jackson St. bound.