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Title: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: golden eagle on June 17, 2012, 09:35:06 PM
In 2001, I was driving back to Atlanta after coming home for a week. Rather than taking I-20 to get back to Atlanta, I decided to drive down to the MS Gulf Coast and then cut over to Mobile, where I proceeded to go north on I-65 to Montgomery, then 85 north straight into Atlanta. I know, way out of the way. Probably by at least 200 miles. Gas was cheap then, so that wasn't an issue.

I don't know if this is necessarily out of the way, but on my way back home from my recent trip to Nashville, instead of taking I-40 all the way to Memphis, I decided to get off at Jackson, TN, and took US 45 down to Starkville, then MS 25 all the way in. That added about two extra hours to my time, but a lot of that was because I decided to stop and drive through some of the towns along the way.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: Duke87 on June 17, 2012, 10:12:28 PM
I'm about to drive from New York to West Palm Beach via Santa Monica (I leave Friday). Beat that. :P
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: nwi_navigator_1181 on June 17, 2012, 10:16:27 PM
Funny you mention Atlanta, because I took the long way home from our trip back in 2007. The easiest and quickest way involves heading up I-75 North to I-24 West, and then to I-65 North all the way to the north terminus.

However, the adventurer that I am, when the time came to choose between I-75 North and I-24 West, I decided to take the long and winding road to Cincinnati. From there, I took I-74 to pick up I-65 (via I-465/865) and legged it home as normal. It's about an extra 150-200 miles, but I liked the scenery, and road trips are meant for fun.

When my father and I drove to and from our annual family reunion in Savannah, TN, my father was told about going back home via I-57. Little did we know that it is shorter than the route we usually take (I-65 to I-40 west, with 50 miles of back roads).

Duke, you are a brave soul. Safe travels. :)
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: golden eagle on June 18, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I recall a conversation I had with a man on a plane who said that as a kid, his dad was taking the family on a trip from New York to New Orleans. When they got to Mobile, his dad realized that they'd have to go through Mississippi to get to the Big Easy. Once he found this out, he then decided to ride up north into Tennessee, cross over into Arkansas and enter Louisiana. He did all that to avoid Mississippi because of the things he heard about the state. This was in the 60s.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: vdeane on June 18, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
Earlier this year I went from Potsdam to Montreal via Ogdensburg.  This is actually logical given the current situation with the Seaway Bridge, but I wasn't even thinking about it at the time; I just wanted to clinch more of ON 401.

I went back to Sidney, NY from the New Haven and Central NJ meets via Scranton.  There were two motives here: clinching parts of I-80 and I-84, and Krispy Kreme donuts (why I didn't think to stop when I was in Montreal, I have no idea).

Quote from: Duke87 on June 17, 2012, 10:12:28 PM
I'm about to drive from New York to West Palm Beach via Santa Monica (I leave Friday). Beat that. :P
On the documentary Freedom Downtime (available on Google Video), the people take a trip from NYC to North Carolina via Las Angeles, Las Vegas, and a zillion other places along the way.  They must have been roadgeeks, because the reasoning was "we'll go to North Carolina where they're shooting Track Down, stop at the hacker convention in Vegas, and while we're there we might as well go to LA to visit this journalist, and while we're there we might as well go to San Francisco to visit this person he wrote a book with, and on the way back we might as well stop at these corporations that claimed they were hacked".  There were even videos of road signs in the documentary.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: OracleUsr on June 18, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
Charlie Daniels sang a tale of going to LA through Mississippi and had such a rough time when he got a flat in some backwater town that he said next time, and I quote:

I think I'm gonna re-route my trip.  I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if I...went to LA...VIA OMAHA

I always sing it one step more...I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if I...went to LA..VIA ST. PAUL!
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: jwolfer on June 18, 2012, 03:39:31 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 18, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I recall a conversation I had with a man on a plane who said that as a kid, his dad was taking the family on a trip from New York to New Orleans. When they got to Mobile, his dad realized that they'd have to go through Mississippi to get to the Big Easy. Once he found this out, he then decided to ride up north into Tennessee, cross over into Arkansas and enter Louisiana. He did all that to avoid Mississippi because of the things he heard about the state. This was in the 60s.

Like Thelma and Louise avoiding Texas.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: jdb1234 on June 18, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: OracleUsr on June 18, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
Charlie Daniels sang a tale of going to LA through Mississippi and had such a rough time when he got a flat in some backwater town that he said next time, and I quote:

I think I'm gonna re-route my trip.  I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if I...went to LA...VIA OMAHA

I always sing it one step more...I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if I...went to LA..VIA ST. PAUL!

The song in question is called "Uneasy Rider." 
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 18, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 18, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I recall a conversation I had with a man on a plane who said that as a kid, his dad was taking the family on a trip from New York to New Orleans. When they got to Mobile, his dad realized that they'd have to go through Mississippi to get to the Big Easy. Once he found this out, he then decided to ride up north into Tennessee, cross over into Arkansas and enter Louisiana. He did all that to avoid Mississippi because of the things he heard about the state. This was in the 60s.
Was he black or jewish?
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: mjb2002 on June 18, 2012, 11:43:01 PM
Quote from: jdb1234 on June 18, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: OracleUsr on June 18, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
Charlie Daniels sang a tale of going to LA through Mississippi and had such a rough time when he got a flat in some backwater town that he said next time, and I quote:

I think I'm gonna re-route my trip.  I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if I...went to LA...VIA OMAHA

I always sing it one step more...I wonder if anybody'd think I'd flipped if I...went to LA..VIA ST. PAUL!

The song in question is called "Uneasy Rider." 


And that is the 1973 original. Those lyrics are not sung in his 1988 version.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: brownpelican on June 19, 2012, 12:05:01 AM
I am guilty of this. Every time I went to Charlotte, instead of taking I-85 when I drove through  Atlanta, I cut off at Ga. 316 to Athens, Ga. and then take Ga./S.C. 72 through Elberton, Ga.; Greenwood, Clinton, Chester and Rock Hill in S.C. to I-77.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: golden eagle on June 19, 2012, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 18, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 18, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I recall a conversation I had with a man on a plane who said that as a kid, his dad was taking the family on a trip from New York to New Orleans. When they got to Mobile, his dad realized that they'd have to go through Mississippi to get to the Big Easy. Once he found this out, he then decided to ride up north into Tennessee, cross over into Arkansas and enter Louisiana. He did all that to avoid Mississippi because of the things he heard about the state. This was in the 60s.
Was he black or jewish?

A white man, actually.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 18, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I recall a conversation I had with a man on a plane who said that as a kid, his dad was taking the family on a trip from New York to New Orleans. When they got to Mobile, his dad realized that they'd have to go through Mississippi to get to the Big Easy. Once he found this out, he then decided to ride up north into Tennessee, cross over into Arkansas and enter Louisiana. He did all that to avoid Mississippi because of the things he heard about the state. This was in the 60s.

He was OK driving in Alabama and Arkansas?  There probably wasnt much difference between anywhere in the Deep South at the time.   There was a guy here in Jacksonville, Stetson Kennedy, who infiltrated the Klan and wrote a book about it.  There was some woman from New York interviewed who would not transfer her car registration to Florida because of the Jim Crow days in the South.  She felt OK getting Florida tags after reading about Stetson Kennedy.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: the49erfan15 on June 19, 2012, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: brownpelican on June 19, 2012, 12:05:01 AM
I am guilty of this. Every time I went to Charlotte, instead of taking I-85 when I drove through  Atlanta, I cut off at Ga. 316 to Athens, Ga. and then take Ga./S.C. 72 through Elberton, Ga.; Greenwood, Clinton, Chester and Rock Hill in S.C. to I-77.

I used that route as part of the drive to New Orleans from Rock Hill, it's a very nice drive.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: deathtopumpkins on June 19, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
I don't necessarily take the 'long way' so much as I take the scenic, more interesting way.
For example, when driving back to Mass from Poughkeepsie, NY, I took US 44, despite being strongly advised against it, simply because it was a beautiful drive. On almost every long trip I take I try to use as many rural arterial highways as possible, because you see so much more and have so much more of an interesting time than you do on the interstates.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: Darkchylde on June 19, 2012, 01:22:25 PM
There was this one time I went down to Tampa. Going there, I took I-10 to I-75 to I-275. Going back, I used mainly US 41 and US 98 until Mobile, then US 90 until Slidell. Not sure which was longer in distance, but the non-Interstate route was definitely longer in time.

Also, often either going to or coming back from northern Louisiana, I'll cut through Mississippi just to add some variation to the trip.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: kphoger on June 19, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Driving from Branson, MO, to the Chicago area (or vice versa), I took to using US-65 to Buffalo; then MO-73, US-54, and I-72 to Springfield, IL; then I-55 the rest of the way north.  All that because I've had bad situations in Saint Louis way too many times.  Rush hour multiple times, traffic backed up due to a high-speed car chase once, empty pallets falling out of the back of an 18-wheeler on an urban freeway once, you name it.  I figure the back way probably added a good 30 to 90 minutes to the drive, but at least I didn't have to drive the last two hours with a pounding headache.

That's the only notable exception to my general rule of taking the fastest way.  I often use a city bypass to avoid traffic, but I do so to avoid the possiblity of running into traffic; that's about it.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
I would take the long way to go a different way or to go on a road had never been on before but my wife has caught on to me... She wants to know the quickest way.  I'm sure lots of significant others or traveling companions limit our road-geekery
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: Grzrd on June 19, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
I'm sure lots of significant others or traveling companions limit our road-geekery

Yep.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 19, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on June 19, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
I'm sure lots of significant others or traveling companions limit our road-geekery

Yep.

find better traveling companions :)
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: kphoger on June 19, 2012, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 19, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on June 19, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
I'm sure lots of significant others or traveling companions limit our road-geekery

Yep.

find better traveling companions :)

Top 10 bad reasons for a divorce.

= = = = =

It would be a little hard to find a better traveling companion on the return trip when your wife drove with you on the way out.  "Sorry, honey, but if you don't let me take the long way back, we're going to have to buy you a bus ticket."
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: Grzrd on June 19, 2012, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 19, 2012, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 19, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on June 19, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
I'm sure lots of significant others or traveling companions limit our road-geekery
Yep.
find better traveling companions :)
Top 10 bad reasons for a divorce.

My wife and I always enjoy the destination; she just doesn't appreciate the journey quite as much as I do ... which is OK.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: huskeroadgeek on June 19, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on June 19, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
I'm sure lots of significant others or traveling companions limit our road-geekery
This usually hasn't been a problem for me, as long as I can come up with a legitimate reason for taking a longer route. In situations where I have been a passenger, the driver almost always trusts my navigation completely to where they won't question any route I choose(within reason). There have been many times in the past where I came up with a legitimate reason for taking a longer route, although the primary force behind it was to see a road I had never been on before, and usually to pick up some new counties.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: JREwing78 on June 19, 2012, 07:40:54 PM
I got so sick of the Ohio Turnpike after years of weekend trips to visit my girlfriend (now wife) that I had rather elaborate reroutes for a Lansing, MI <-> Cleveland, OH trip.

OH-2 is a no-brainer, even if the last 30+ miles is congested 2-lane. That got old too.

I've done US-20 paralleling the Ohio Turnpike between Toledo and Lorain a few times. Occasionally I'd divert to US-6 through Bowling Green to US-24, then cut up to US-127.

A couple times. I've gone down to Mansfield, OH, then cut across to Fort Wayne, IN, and back up I-69 to Lansing. Once, I cut over to US-23 at Upper Sandusky, and followed OH-15 through Defiance, OH.

Yeah, the Turnpike got REALLY old after a while.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: kphoger on June 19, 2012, 08:02:21 PM
Does Greyhound count as "the long way"?
Your post about visiting a girlfriend-now-wife took me back to a time when I would take a commuter train, subway, and two Greyhound buses (transferring overnight in the ghetto of Saint Louis, back before they move to Union Station) to visit mine.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: Alps on June 19, 2012, 08:44:42 PM
I used to date someone in Ocean Twp., NJ when I lived in Livingston. I used the following routes, in order of exasperation (all northbound for consistency)

NJ 71 north, NJ 36 west, Garden State Parkway, exit 139B, 82 west, 124 west, 24 west, JFK Parkway north
West Park Ave., NJ 18 north, US 9, GSP as above
West Park Ave., NJ 18 north, NJ 34, US 9, GSP as above
West Park Ave., NJ 18 north, NJ 79, NJ 34, US 9, GSP as above
NJ 71 north, NJ 35 north, US 9, GSP as above

Then she moved to Toms River. I never used the Parkway at that point. US 9, CR 527, CR 571, CR 549, New Hampshire Ave., all got some use.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: hbelkins on June 19, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
I've done this more times than I can count -- or remember.

Most memorable might be when I was going from Frankfort to Grayson County, southwest of Elizabethtown, to visit relatives. Picked my brother up in Frankfort and instead of taking US 127 to the Bluegrass Parkway, which would be the shortest route, I took I-64 west and either I-265 or I-264 around to I-65 south. Going up Muldraugh Hill, north of and approaching E-town, is when the engine blew in my '88 S-10 Blazer, and I limped to a stop near the little green shrub made infamous by Carl Rogers.

My aunt and uncle had a spare vehicle and let me drive it home, and he arranged for repairs on my Blazer. My dad and I went back a couple of weeks later to pick up my vehicle. On the way back we took US 31W north out of E-town, and then I-264 around to I-64, just for the heck of it. BG Parkway to US 60 to Lexington would have been the shorter and faster way.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: ftballfan on June 20, 2012, 10:39:05 PM
Some examples for me:
Allegan, MI to Hudsonville, MI via M-40 and I-196
Allendale, MI to Benzonia, MI via M-45, US-131, and M-115
Allendale, MI to Muskegon, MI via M-45 and US-31; M-45, 68th Ave, Leonard St, M-104, and US-31
Lansing, MI to Ann Arbor, MI via US-127 and I-94
Manistee, MI to Frankfort, MI via US-31 and M-115
Muskegon, MI to Ludington, MI via old US-31
Sandusky, OH to Manistee, MI via Hillsdale, MI and Alma, MI (I-80/90, OH-15/M-99, US-12, back roads via Horton, MI, I-94, US-127, M-115, and M-55)
Traverse City, MI to Manistee, MI via Cadillac (M-37, M-113, US-131, and M-55)
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: BigMattFromTexas on June 20, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
My family doesn't really care about roads, they're they stereotypical "get there fast" people.. But we ALMOST went to Iowa via Colorado. Coming home from Del Rio, we sometimes take the back way (TX 163), and you can drive 80 on that road easy, just watch out for cattle, deer, sheep, etc.. Also, we went home from Ft. Worth via Waco. When I start road tripping, I'll definitely take the long ways!
BigMatt
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: nwi_navigator_1181 on June 21, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
Another one that crossed my mind was the trip from Rockford, IL to home during the Labor Day weekend of years past.

The easiest route, by far, is to take I-90 all the way in to Dunes Highway, with just another mile to home. There may be some variances due to traffic or toll avoidances; we may hit up I-294 southbound into Indiana (via I-80/94) and head home (via I-65 north to terminus), or we may stay on I-94 in Chicago when I-90 breaks for Indiana via the Skyway/Toll Road.

However, the route my father has become fond of is to take I-39 South to I-80 East to head home. This was before open road tolling was a reality, so toll stops on Labor Day would be longer that normal...to the point of unbearable. So we experimented with this route. It added 50 miles to the trip and took about an hour longer, but we stayed on the move. It helped because we bypassed Chicago completely and only had to pay one toll, versus the seven or so with the other routes.

In 2006, my mother and I left for home about an hour ahead of my father. After waiting about an hour at the Elgin Toll Plaza (her vehicle did not have an I-Pass), I called my dad. I asked him if he left yet; when I found out he didn't, I told him it would be best to take I-39. That was a nightmare.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: SSOWorld on June 21, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Try Platteville WI to Rhinelander WI - via Green Bay or Milwaukee (or both ;)) or Eau Claire or worse (I mean "better")... Superior.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: bugo on June 21, 2012, 08:38:23 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 18, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
I recall a conversation I had with a man on a plane who said that as a kid, his dad was taking the family on a trip from New York to New Orleans. When they got to Mobile, his dad realized that they'd have to go through Mississippi to get to the Big Easy. Once he found this out, he then decided to ride up north into Tennessee, cross over into Arkansas and enter Louisiana. He did all that to avoid Mississippi because of the things he heard about the state. This was in the 60s.

I went from Mena, AR to Florida in 1998.  On the way there, we passed through a short portion of Mississippi.  Coming back, we went all the way through Nashville just so we wouldn't have to drive through Mississippi.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: bugo on June 21, 2012, 08:45:28 PM
I drove from Ft Wayne, Indiana to Knob Noster, Missouri via US 24 west, OH/MI 49 north (so I could pick up those states,) US 12 west to Coldwater, I-69 south to I-80/90 west to Chicago, then I-94 west through Milwaukee and Madison up to Tomah, then I-90 west to Albert Lea, I-35 south to KC, and US 50 east to Knob.  Don't know how many miles out of the way that trip was but I picked up 5 states that day.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: hbelkins on June 21, 2012, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: bugo on June 21, 2012, 08:38:23 PM
I went from Mena, AR to Florida in 1998.  On the way there, we passed through a short portion of Mississippi.  Coming back, we went all the way through Nashville just so we wouldn't have to drive through Mississippi.

Why? The few times I've been in Mississippi, I've found the roads to be in pretty good shape.
Title: Re: Taking the long way to reach a destination
Post by: roadman65 on June 22, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
Just recently, I took NY 5 from Utica to Colonie instead of the I-90 Thruway.  That added some time, but wanted to see the country.

Then  I took the Taconic Parkway  from Albany to NYC to avoid the tolls.  That is much longer, with 55 mph maximum and very winding as this road was not built for speed, but for scenic beauty.  I-87, as you know, is more straight, 65 mph most of the way, and most of all faster.