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Title: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: BigMattFromTexas on July 07, 2012, 03:56:26 PM
Texas is notorious for our elaborate stacks. In Austin there is at least two examples of a flyover going VERY close to the parking lot of a hotel.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.339331,-97.700909&spn=0.002256,0.00284&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=19
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.320917,-97.708258&spn=0.001128,0.00142&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=20
Also in Wichita Falls, TX on an elevated section of US 287/281 that runs about 10 feet from buildings beside it.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=33.903817,-98.497965&spn=0.002169,0.00284&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=19
The US 281/LP 1604 interchange looks like it is planned to have a southbound stack from LP 1604 to US 281, that is in the parking lot of Bill Miller BBQ.
http://www.alamorma.org/default/assets/Image/1604_281_Interchange/sheet6_Interchange_for_web.jpg
Anyone else know of any stacks that seem to 'intrude' on other things?
BigMatt
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: DorkOfNerky on July 07, 2012, 04:13:38 PM
The Hillcroft Transit Center at the Westpark Tollway and US 59 South in Houston. Not only does it have the Westpark Tollway EB to US 59 South NB ramp cutting through the parking lot, but it also has some power line towers hanging out there as well.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=29.721999,-95.495685&spn=0.004025,0.003578&t=k&z=18


If that wasn't enough, the US 59 South NB ramp to the Westpark Tollway EB ramp clips an apartment complex.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=29.723172,-95.490997&spn=0.002013,0.001789&t=k&z=19
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: colinstu on July 07, 2012, 04:18:54 PM
There's intruding.... and then there's RIGHT INSIDE ANOTHER BUILDING'S JUNK.

:P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_Tower_Building

Darn Japanese. hehe
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: pianocello on July 07, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
You'll find on GSV that the same ramp passes right over another building.

http://goo.gl/maps/0svW
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: InterstateNG on July 07, 2012, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: BigMattFromTexas on July 07, 2012, 03:56:26 PM
Texas is notorious for our elaborate stacks. In Austin there is at least two examples of a flyover going VERY close to the parking lot of a hotel.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.339331,-97.700909&spn=0.002256,0.00284&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=19
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.320917,-97.708258&spn=0.001128,0.00142&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=20

The new flyover from NB Mopac ->EB 290/71 is much like these.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: blawp on July 07, 2012, 08:54:09 PM
The Interstate 805 / Interstate 8 interchange in San Diego, California has buildings all around it. It's very well engineered so it's not a big deal...
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: mgk920 on July 08, 2012, 12:55:09 AM
There are many places in Italy, especially along the Riviera, where motorways and their interchange access ramps pass directly over buildings, this due to the rugged locations that they pass through.

Mike
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: deathtopumpkins on July 08, 2012, 09:36:43 AM
I know a couple of ramps in NYC cut through buildings, or at least abut them, the end of one of the tunnels comes to mind.
Then in Boston you have all the air rights on the Pike, with a Shaw's, the prudential, a hotel, and some random buildings around Copley built directly overtop of it.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: BigMattFromTexas on July 08, 2012, 03:07:35 PM
I forgot about this one in San Antonio. I-410 at 10. A behemoth of an interchange! There's a building within the interchange (sorta).. Also a Dave and Busters parking lot pretty close. But it is well engineered so it's not bad.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=29.500069,-98.546462&spn=0.006434,0.011362&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=17
Not to mention the 410 at 281 interchange.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=29.519766,-98.478312&spn=0.004549,0.005681&hnear=Texas&t=h&z=18
BigMatt
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: Brandon on July 08, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 08, 2012, 12:55:09 AM
There are many places in Italy, especially along the Riviera, where motorways and their interchange access ramps pass directly over buildings, this due to the rugged locations that they pass through.

Mike

Although it is not/was not a stack, Mike, don't forget about the Marquette Interchange in Milwaukee and it's relationship with nearby buildings.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: Occidental Tourist on July 08, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
Obligatory California references:

The self-storage building that straddles the (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+angeles,+ca&hl=en&ll=34.080798,-118.294408&spn=0.003777,0.006899&sll=29.497417,-98.549112&sspn=0.003931,0.006899&t=h&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California&z=17) north and southbound lanes of the 101 in Silverlake.  The land it is on was originally supposed to be part of of the 2/101 interchange.

Most of the Santa Monica Freeway south of downtown is elevated and abuts buildings, such as the Spearmint Rhino.  There are a couple of facilities actually under the freeway (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+angeles,+ca&hl=en&ll=34.030262,-118.257749&spn=0.000668,0.000862&sll=29.497417,-98.549112&sspn=0.003931,0.006899&t=h&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California&z=20), and of course, the CHP station pictured in CHiPs was and is still located in the parclo ramp (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+angeles,+ca&hl=en&ll=34.037271,-118.275099&spn=0.001336,0.001725&sll=29.497417,-98.549112&sspn=0.003931,0.006899&t=h&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California&z=19) connecting the S/B 110 to the E/B 10.

In San Francisco, there are several buildings abutting the Central Freeway and the Western Approach to the Bay Bridge.  Most notable are The ClockTower building (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.783401,-122.394744&spn=0.001785,0.003449&sll=33.719806,-117.750864&sspn=0.007514,0.013797&oq=san+franc&t=h&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.78353,-122.39458&panoid=eS6_G2tv79k9TtBHc-luAA&cbp=12,59.01,,0,-17.08) and the recently-built One Rincon Hill (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.785639,-122.391756&spn=0.001785,0.003449&sll=33.719806,-117.750864&sspn=0.007514,0.013797&oq=san+franc&t=h&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.785679,-122.391444&panoid=OTuvggCNapEGMiCRXgsmhA&cbp=12,280.34,,0,-20.02) residential building.

The most obvious example of buildings built around interchanges is to find the buildings built around the outline (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.786788,-122.394921&spn=0.001802,0.003449&sll=33.719806,-117.750864&sspn=0.007514,0.013797&oq=san+franc&t=h&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&z=18) of the former ramps going to the Embarcadero Freeway.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: mgk920 on July 08, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 08, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 08, 2012, 12:55:09 AM
There are many places in Italy, especially along the Riviera, where motorways and their interchange access ramps pass directly over buildings, this due to the rugged locations that they pass through.

Mike

Although it is not/was not a stack, Mike, don't forget about the Marquette Interchange in Milwaukee and it's relationship with nearby buildings.

The building that the 'old' Marquette Interchange wrapped above and around ('Aldrich Chemical') was demolished for the rebuild.

Mike
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: colinstu on July 08, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/cost-estimating/documents/peer-review/marquette-widot.pdf

Ah I see the buildings now. They have some before and after renders a little past half-way in the pdf.

It's funny how they kept the Court House Parking Annex still in the after picture (where "the whale" mural used to hang off of too). That was super knocked down during the build lol.

(details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_County_Courthouse#Courthouse_Annex for those non WI peeps)
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: flowmotion on July 09, 2012, 02:16:24 AM
Speaking of San Francisco, if I ever was successful enough to be able to build my World Headquarters, I'd pick one of these lots:

http://goo.gl/maps/hJH9

Completely surrounded by freeway ramps :D
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: Brandon on July 09, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 08, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 08, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 08, 2012, 12:55:09 AM
There are many places in Italy, especially along the Riviera, where motorways and their interchange access ramps pass directly over buildings, this due to the rugged locations that they pass through.

Mike

Although it is not/was not a stack, Mike, don't forget about the Marquette Interchange in Milwaukee and it's relationship with nearby buildings.

The building that the 'old' Marquette Interchange wrapped above and around ('Aldrich Chemical') was demolished for the rebuild.

Mike

A shame.  It was rather nifty to have in the middle of the interchange.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: bulldog1979 on July 09, 2012, 07:44:15 PM
It's not quite a stack (I don't know what to call it really), but the interchange between US 131 and I-196 in Grand Rapids is pretty close to some buildings. A friend of mine lives in a condo that's part of an old school adjacent to the interchange, and sitting in his living room, you can see the tops of any semis using the ramp from US 131 SB to I-196 WB. (This is the same ramp that if a semi takes too fast, they have a tendency of falling off a couple stories onto the street below.) The condo complex has a hot tub up on the roof, and it's fun to watch the traffic on I-196 WB go by while soaking.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: Takumi on July 09, 2012, 10:31:13 PM
It's a cloverleaf, but the old Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike Authority building (now just a VDOT facility) is between the ramps on the southwest side of the I-95/VA 10 interchange.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: TXtoNJ on July 10, 2012, 09:27:47 AM
I-10 and Beltway 8 West in Houston have two ramps that go into parking lots.
I-610 and S. Post Oak (which is a three-way directional interchange, close enough for me) is literally on top of a transit terminal.
US 281 and I-410 in San Antonio are particularly egregious about encroaching on the surrounding parking lot. I'm guessing that's what 281 and FM 1604 will do as well.
All of the above is child's play compared to where the Ponchartrain and Claiborne meet up in Downtown New Orleans. Complete disregard for the mere mortals below.
I-279 and PA 65 in Pittsburgh have a directional T on top of stadium parking lots.
I-95 and I-676 in Philly have a ramp that sits on level with the building 10 feet away, and another ramp that covers a subway tunnel while passing under a massive suspension bridge.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: pianocello on July 10, 2012, 01:12:06 PM
In Brighton, Michigan, there's a small neighborhood between the carriageways of I-96 at its interchange with US-23. There's a building in the middle of 23 there as well.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: InterstateNG on July 10, 2012, 04:00:46 PM
The buildings are MDOT property I believe.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: hobsini2 on July 10, 2012, 06:08:47 PM
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on July 08, 2012, 09:36:43 AM
I know a couple of ramps in NYC cut through buildings, or at least abut them, the end of one of the tunnels comes to mind.
Then in Boston you have all the air rights on the Pike, with a Shaw's, the prudential, a hotel, and some random buildings around Copley built directly overtop of it.

Most of the FDR in Manhattan falls under this. But IMO it is the best way to get north from Battery Park.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: xcellntbuy on July 10, 2012, 08:57:49 PM
If I recall correctly, the FDR (East River) Drive in New York runs underneath one of the world's most famous buildings--the United Nations.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: MrDisco99 on July 11, 2012, 01:57:45 PM
The UN plaza does indeed float on top of FDR Drive.  The Queens Midtown Tunnel is dug right underneath the same spot as well!

The Mid-Manhattan Expressway, had it been built, would have shot through the tenth story of a bunch of buildings along 30th street, linking the Lincoln and Queens Midtown tunnels.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: Alps on July 11, 2012, 08:23:29 PM
There's a parking garage right next to the downtown Providence interchange (I-95/US 6/RI 10) that has good top-down views. I might also point out that MassPike Interchange 22 is entirely inside and under a building, but it's not a stack.
Title: Re: Stacks and Buildings...
Post by: hm insulators on July 12, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 08, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
Obligatory California references:

The self-storage building that straddles the (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+angeles,+ca&hl=en&ll=34.080798,-118.294408&spn=0.003777,0.006899&sll=29.497417,-98.549112&sspn=0.003931,0.006899&t=h&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California&z=17) north and southbound lanes of the 101 in Silverlake.  The land it is on was originally supposed to be part of of the 2/101 interchange.

Most of the Santa Monica Freeway south of downtown is elevated and abuts buildings, such as the Spearmint Rhino.  There are a couple of facilities actually under the freeway (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+angeles,+ca&hl=en&ll=34.030262,-118.257749&spn=0.000668,0.000862&sll=29.497417,-98.549112&sspn=0.003931,0.006899&t=h&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California&z=20), and of course, the CHP station pictured in CHiPs was and is still located in the parclo ramp (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=los+angeles,+ca&hl=en&ll=34.037271,-118.275099&spn=0.001336,0.001725&sll=29.497417,-98.549112&sspn=0.003931,0.006899&t=h&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California&z=19) connecting the S/B 110 to the E/B 10.

In San Francisco, there are several buildings abutting the Central Freeway and the Western Approach to the Bay Bridge.  Most notable are The ClockTower building (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.783401,-122.394744&spn=0.001785,0.003449&sll=33.719806,-117.750864&sspn=0.007514,0.013797&oq=san+franc&t=h&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.78353,-122.39458&panoid=eS6_G2tv79k9TtBHc-luAA&cbp=12,59.01,,0,-17.08) and the recently-built One Rincon Hill (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.785639,-122.391756&spn=0.001785,0.003449&sll=33.719806,-117.750864&sspn=0.007514,0.013797&oq=san+franc&t=h&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.785679,-122.391444&panoid=OTuvggCNapEGMiCRXgsmhA&cbp=12,280.34,,0,-20.02) residential building.

The most obvious example of buildings built around interchanges is to find the buildings built around the outline (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.786788,-122.394921&spn=0.001802,0.003449&sll=33.719806,-117.750864&sspn=0.007514,0.013797&oq=san+franc&t=h&hnear=San+Francisco,+California&z=18) of the former ramps going to the Embarcadero Freeway.

One more California example: The movie theater and restaurant complex that was built under the interchange where the 2 Freeway ends at I-210 in La Canada Flintridge. If I remember correctly, that bit of land was a car dealership that was built after the interchange but before the theater.