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Title: Texas highway 1
Post by: bugo on July 20, 2012, 12:29:18 AM
http://www.dot.state.tx.us/tpp/hwy/sh/sh0001.htm

QuoteNOTE:  THIS STATE HIGHWAY NUMBER MAY ONLY BE ASSIGNED BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

The last Texas 1 was decommissioned in 1952 in favor of US 80B.  The original Texas 1 ran from Texarkana to El Paso, largely along US 67 and 80.  Why can only the executive director or the transportation commission apply this number?
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: blawp on July 20, 2012, 01:02:56 AM
Cool website.

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Highway Designation File
Transportation Planning and Programming Division

Current Description-Effective Date-Authority

STATE HIGHWAY NO. 69

Minute Order 065152, dated 08/04/1971; Adm. Cir. 089-1971, dated 09/01/1971

From US 183 southeastward via Morton Valley to US 80 in Eastland (Eastland County)  New designation; mileage transferred from SH 6.


Minute Order 091933, dated 08/28/1991; Adm. Ltr. 004-1991, dated 10/28/1991
From US 183 northwest of Eastland southeastward via Eastland to IH 20, a distance of approximately 10.8 miles.  (Eastland County)  New description; as requested by District, section of approx. 1.8 miles added from SH 6 eastward to IH 20.


Adm. Auth., dated 09/14/1992; Adm. Ltr. 003-1992, dated 09/14/1992
Cancelled.  (Eastland County)  As requested by District, this mileage transferred to SH 112.  (This is due to numerous thefts of the popular SH 69 signs.)
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: Scott5114 on July 20, 2012, 01:09:19 AM
Quote from: bugo on July 20, 2012, 12:29:18 AM
Why can only the executive director or the transportation commission apply this number?

Presumably because with a state highway system as vast as Texas's, the number "1" should be reserved for something pretty damn special. They don't want some district engineer grabbing it for some six mile ranch access road in Cowturdia County.

I have heard, but never found a legit source to verify, that OK-1 was numbered as such due to its scenic nature.
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: NE2 on July 20, 2012, 01:13:22 AM
The "last" route was a short piece of the original one.
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: bugo on July 20, 2012, 01:18:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 20, 2012, 01:09:19 AM
I have heard, but never found a legit source to verify, that OK-1 was numbered as such due to its scenic nature.

I read that on Wikipedia but I don't buy it because OK 1 isn't scenic for its entire length and the whole idea sounds silly.
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: US71 on July 20, 2012, 08:56:31 AM
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For some reason this says old US 1. There was a discussion about this on MTR a couple years ago
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2012, 11:27:17 AM
Ontario has a similar policy, or it may be that route 1 cannot be assigned at all.

so Ontario 2 became the major route!  :-D
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: bugo on July 20, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: NE2 on July 20, 2012, 01:13:22 AM
The "last" route was a short piece of the original one.

Was it?  I assumed that the original Texas 1 followed the route of mainline US 80 west of Dallas as opposed to following what became Business US 80.
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: NE2 on July 20, 2012, 05:01:27 PM
I'm not sure. These maps are both labeled 1936, but one shows no state number for the US 80 cutoff, and the other shows SH 1B on post-1939 1.
https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/maps/images/map4838.jpg
http://1940census.archives.gov/search/?search.county=Dallas%20County&search.page=1&search.result_type=map&search.state=TX#city=&filename=m-a3378-00062-00289.tif&type=map&county=dallas-county&state=TX&searchby=location&searchmode=browse&year=1940&index=3&pages=4&bm_all_text=Unbookmark (am I missing a 'link to this page' to get a better URL somewhere?)
(other differences: 14 vs. 289 north of downtown, 40 By-pass on Loop 12; perhaps the former is actually post-1939 but they forgot to remove the redundant numbers)
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: national highway 1 on July 20, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: bugo on July 20, 2012, 12:29:18 AM
http://www.dot.state.tx.us/tpp/hwy/sh/sh0001.htm

QuoteNOTE:  THIS STATE HIGHWAY NUMBER MAY ONLY BE ASSIGNED BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

The last Texas 1 was decommissioned in 1952 in favor of US 80B.  The original Texas 1 ran from Texarkana to El Paso, largely along US 67 and 80.  Why can only the executive director or the transportation commission apply this number?
Howdy, pard'ner...  :sombrero:
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Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: TXtoNJ on July 22, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
You have three very large cities that are nowhere near one another. Probably factors into the whole thing.
Title: Re: Texas highway 1
Post by: Brian556 on July 22, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
http://1940census.archives.gov/search/?search.county=Dallas%20County&search.page=1&search.result_type=map&search.state=TX#city=&filename=m-a3378-00062-00289.tif&type=map&county=dallas- (http://1940census.archives.gov/search/?search.county=Dallas%20County&search.page=1&search.result_type=map&search.state=TX#city=&filename=m-a3378-00062-00289.tif&type=map&county=dallas-)

The "BYPASS 40" is interesting. Don't think i've ever heard of it before. Also notice that it is not shown on SH 114 (the portion that is now LOOP 12 /Northwest Hwy), even though it wouuld have logically have to been co-signed there.