I was in a discussion just now where the subject became the 'loneliest 2DI'. I was wondering, what is the lowest AADT for any section of the interstate system, 2DIs only? Is it still on I-15 at the Idaho-Montana state line?
:hmmm:
Mike
I thought it was I-95 into Canada.
I always heard that I-64 in the western part of Virginia was pretty low.
I-10 in western Texas?
On a related note, these (http://goo.gl/maps/ZZvkK) are the Interstates in the West that have an AADT under 10,000 daily. Generally that number is the cutoff nowadays for when it is time to upgrade a 2-lane road to a freeway.
Great map Zmapper. Maybe you could expand it east The western part of I-72 in Illinois and the eastern part of I-64 are Both under 10,000.and we have even lower 3dis
I-25 in Wyoming is absurdly desolate
Quote from: mgk920 on August 27, 2012, 11:09:16 PM
I was in a discussion just now where the subject became the 'loneliest 2DI'. I was wondering, what is the lowest AADT for any section of the interstate system, 2DIs only? Is it still on I-15 at the Idaho-Montana state line?
:hmmm:
Mike
If the Interstate Highways were not planned/built in the 1950s and 60s many of them would not be built as freeways... Most of the lower AADT would be four lane roads I think... Sort of of like the Trans-Canada in Manitoba and Saskatchewan
Surprised to see that so many of these are east-west interstates, which I always think of as being full of east-west transcontinental traffic. I was able to explain a few of them, like I-80 in Wyoming/Nebraska having lost some of its traffic to I-76 and no major metros to build it back up again, and I-90 and I-94 across the Dakotas each serving half of the possible traffic that might theoretically use them, but others seems to defy explanation. Where does the traffic on I-80 in Nevada suddenly disappear to before it gets to Utah? Surely West Wendover isn't THAT popular of a destination?
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 28, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
Surprised to see that so many of these are east-west interstates, which I always think of as being full of east-west transcontinental traffic. I was able to explain a few of them, like I-80 in Wyoming/Nebraska having lost some of its traffic to I-76 and no major metros to build it back up again, and I-90 and I-94 across the Dakotas each serving half of the possible traffic that might theoretically use them, but others seems to defy explanation. Where does the traffic on I-80 in Nevada suddenly disappear to before it gets to Utah? Surely West Wendover isn't THAT popular of a destination?
it might be a granularity issue. maybe a lot of the traffic takes US-93, slightly to the west?
I've traveled all of the quiet ones mapped except I-90 east of Billings. I feel fortunate to have done it, and done it during the summer.
Many of them are pretty (I-15 sure is). None of them are anyplace to get stuck, especially in the winter. I'm sure that influences the numbers somewhat. The southern interstates are more reliable in many ways during the winter.
I-75 in Michigan's Upper Peninsula must have a low AADT between Mackinac and Sault Ste Marie. That road felt at least as lonely as the ones on the Google map.
As far as I-80 goes.. it's a full day's drive to Boise (80 to 95) or Twin Falls (80 to 93) from Reno. That's where most of the eastbound traffic gets siphoned off. Some of the traffic goes south to Great Basin NP from Wendover (which has several popular casinos, and the Bonneville Salt Flats nearby.. whereas the turn-off at Wells has nothing). The 100-mile gap in services between Wendover and SLC is a different kind of turn-off altogether. It's the kind of road you drive once then vow to fly over next time. Only triples and sinners from SLC on that stretch of highway. :)
I've also driven I-180 in Illinois. I've heard the steel plant is operating again.. so traffic is probably up significantly. Might not even be on the list anymore! :rolleyes: http://www.arcelormittalna.com/Facilities/Americas/Mittal+Steel+USA/Operating+Facilities/hennepin.asp (http://www.arcelormittalna.com/Facilities/Americas/Mittal+Steel+USA/Operating+Facilities/hennepin.asp)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 28, 2012, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 28, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
Where does the traffic on I-80 in Nevada suddenly disappear to before it gets to Utah? Surely West Wendover isn't THAT popular of a destination?
it might be a granularity issue. maybe a lot of the traffic takes US-93, slightly to the west?
I dunno, I can't think of too many destinations that would necessitate taking I-80 from California and getting off at U.S. 93. Southern Idaho and western Montana, maybe. Going south from there doesn't do much for many people, like it's not a shortcut to I-70 or anything.
Of course, given the concrete cutoff of 10,000, it could just be a margin of error thing, where the traffic along that entire stretch of I-80 is barely over 10,000 to begin with, so even a slightly inaccurate count could be the difference between being deemed "extraneous" or not.
I've always heard the lowest AADT on an interstate highway is I-95 in Maine - drops as low as 1,880 according to AARoads and 2-4,000 according to Wikipedia.
[If any of you think about saying wikipedia is not a valid source, fuck you.]
I wonder how many interstates would not have been built if they were built "as needed" instead of a determined plan for a whole grid.
I think the plant is open for I-180 in Illinois but traffic isnt . Most of the 2000 a day are using it as part of IL 29 from north Peoria to 80.
I mentioned the inder 10K routes in Illinois. Maybe everyone else can list their under 10K routes so we can finish Zmappers map
Quote from: texaskdog on August 28, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
I wonder how many interstates would not have been built if they were built "as needed" instead of a determined plan for a whole grid.
The original plan was to build many miles of interstate in the west to 2-lane standard.
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
meh. I'm actually thinking it; you just happened to say it.
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on August 28, 2012, 01:42:35 PM
I've always heard the lowest AADT on an interstate highway is I-95 in Maine - drops as low as 1,880 according to AARoads and 2-4,000 according to Wikipedia.
That is far less than the aforementioned section of VA I-64. I-64 between WV I-77 and VA I-81, ranges as low as 8,000 on segments in both states.
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 27, 2012, 11:31:16 PM
I-10 in western Texas?
I'm curious about this one, too, say, between Kerrville and the 20/10 split. Most desolate stretch of Interstate I've ever personally driven, anyway.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on August 28, 2012, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on August 28, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
I wonder how many interstates would not have been built if they were built "as needed" instead of a determined plan for a whole grid.
The original plan was to build many miles of interstate in the west to 2-lane standard.
I cannot speak to the Western Interstate system, but I-95 in Maine between Bangor and Houlton was originally built as a "Super-2," at least between the interchanges (it widened out to a four-lane divided at the interchanges). For a "free" interstate highway, the distances between interchanges are often considerable, well over 10 miles, and pretty desolate. Only other section of I-95 that "feels" like this is in South Carolina.
Quote from: wphiii on August 28, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
I'm curious about this one, too, say, between Kerrville and the 20/10 split. Most desolate stretch of Interstate I've ever personally driven, anyway.
I've always thought it had plenty of trucks. it is quite desolate, yes, but not as much as I-95 near Houlton, Maine, I-29 north of US-2, I-15 across Monida Pass, and various others I have had experience with.
that said - for a seasonal data point: the emptiest interstate I've ever seen was I-75 heading south from Cincinnati into Kentucky - 3am on Christmas, 2006.
Here's a decent map of truck flow: (http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/freight_analysis/nat_freight_stats/docs/08factsfigures/figure3_4.htm)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ops.fhwa.dot.gov%2Ffreight%2Ffreight_analysis%2Fnat_freight_stats%2Fimages%2Fhi_res_jpg%2Fnhslnghultrktraf2002.jpg&hash=b065ef7e45ce6f0179595278581ed59d440b9401)
CA-99, what an outlier as far as the non-interstates go.
another one I noted was US-49 between Jackson and Hattiesburg, MS. Has that ever been talked about as being upgraded to interstate standard? It is a divided four-lane expressway with some pretty poor grading on the southbound (original) lanes.
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50! Did *I* do that? Tee hee!)
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Here's a decent map of truck flow:
(http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/freight_analysis/nat_freight_stats/docs/08factsfigures/figure3_4.htm)
Thanks for posting that map, it's very interesting. It certainly shows how CA-99 should be an interstate. And US-101 from L.A. to about Ukiah.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 28, 2012, 03:09:18 PM
CA-99, what an outlier as far as the non-interstates go.
Indeed, it's the only reason I even noticed that non-interstates were measured (rather than just put on the map)!
I-40 between Memphis and Little Rock is one of the busiest trucking interstates in the country, and I can vouch for that personally. Getting caught in a 15-mile traffic jam – on a Sunday! – at the White River bridge is no fun. (ADD: That's where future I-69 will help immensely. Also noticed U.S. 59 between Texarkana and Houston is another especially busy non-interstate, again a future I-69 route.)
My guess is NAFTA helped bump up the north-south traffic over the 10K AADT mark in a lot of low-traffic areas.
Quote from: kkt on August 28, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Here's a decent map of truck flow:
(http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/freight_analysis/nat_freight_stats/docs/08factsfigures/figure3_4.htm)
Thanks for posting that map, it's very interesting. It certainly shows how CA-99 should be an interstate. And US-101 from L.A. to about Ukiah.
I noticed US 101 as well.
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Here's a decent map of truck flow: (http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/freight_analysis/nat_freight_stats/docs/08factsfigures/figure3_4.htm)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ops.fhwa.dot.gov%2Ffreight%2Ffreight_analysis%2Fnat_freight_stats%2Fimages%2Fhi_res_jpg%2Fnhslnghultrktraf2002.jpg&hash=b065ef7e45ce6f0179595278581ed59d440b9401)
Looks like the 'reasonable and prudent' speed limit devised by Montana before 1995 really was rather useful, in a way.
Quote from: mp_quadrillion on August 28, 2012, 01:35:51 PM
I-75 in Michigan's Upper Peninsula must have a low AADT between Mackinac and Sault Ste Marie. That road felt at least as lonely as the ones on the Google map.
According to MDOT's AADT maps (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/adtfront_20092_7.pdf) it ranges from a low of 3500 vpd to 8600 vpd (north of M-28). US-2 west of St. Ignace does, in fact, average higher traffic than I-75 north of St. Ignace, ranging from 3800 vpd to 9400 vpd (just outside Gladstone). All of these numbers are down a bit from 5 years ago.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 28, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
Surprised to see that so many of these are east-west interstates, which I always think of as being full of east-west transcontinental traffic. I was able to explain a few of them, like I-80 in Wyoming/Nebraska having lost some of its traffic to I-76 and no major metros to build it back up again, and I-90 and I-94 across the Dakotas each serving half of the possible traffic that might theoretically use them, but others seems to defy explanation. Where does the traffic on I-80 in Nevada suddenly disappear to before it gets to Utah? Surely West Wendover isn't THAT popular of a destination?
Short answer: Nevada doesn't have a nice traffic volume map, and I couldn't be bothered to spend an hour + on just a single state, so I guesstimated in yellow where the segment under 10k was.
http://www.dot.il.gov/trafficmaps/table.htm
Here are the latest Illinois maps if you want to expand yours
In Illinois about a quarter to a third of the rural interstate traffic is trucks. I cant find any non interstate NHS routes that have over 1000 trucks
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50! Did *I* do that? Tee hee!)
If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PMWikipedia is not a valid source.
Certainly not for wikipedia - anyone can edit it, thus it isn't good enough.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 29, 2012, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50! Did *I* do that? Tee hee!)
If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.
Overreact much?
There's no such thing as overreacting when you're part of the Oral Majority.
Quote from: NE2 on August 29, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
There's no such thing as overreacting when you're part of the Oral Majority.
says the guy with either the biggest, or second-biggest mouth on this forum.
(I am perfectly content with an error of approximately 1. I'm not challenging you to a mouth-off!)
Quote from: Special K on August 29, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 29, 2012, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50! Did *I* do that? Tee hee!)
If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.
Overreact much?
You must of missed Scott's rant against dumbing writings down to laymen, this past weekend.
Quote from: Special K on August 29, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 29, 2012, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: Special K on August 28, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
(Hey, look... I-95 Baltimore to DC has an AADT of 50! Did *I* do that? Tee hee!)
If you did, you need to learn to stop being an asshole and shitting on other people's work. There's like, what, I want to say five roadgeeks that actively try to keep all 10,000 road articles on Wikipedia correct and complete? Vandalizing Wikipedia is about the level of maturity as spray painting a tag over someone's mural. Show some respect.
Overreact much?
No, it's not an overreaction. I've been a Wikipedian since 2005. These things are important to people. You'd be angry if I went through and started editing your posts to contain inaccuracies. So too are we angry when people fuck up the hard work that we've done just to "prove" to their friends that the Wikipedia model has limitations, as if everyone didn't know that ten years ago.
It's like he actually went to Wikipedia and vandalized it. And then fucked your wife. That would explain your anger. But joking about it to make a point? Nope.
More relevantly, Death gives figures from both Wikipedia and AARoads - but Wikipedia cites AARoads and gets it wrong. Tee hee! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-95_(ME)#cite_ref-2
I'm done with it. Point stands: before you start taking pot shots at a project as large as Wikipedia without valid reason, remember that sometimes someone who built the damn thing will see it.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 30, 2012, 11:03:56 AM
before you start taking pot shots at a project as large as Wikipedia without valid reason
Seems the reason was completely valid here.
Quote from: NE2 on August 30, 2012, 11:53:17 AM
Seems the reason was completely valid here.
no, not really. it's been a well-known limitation of Wikipedia since... approximately 30 seconds after it started. he's not stating anything new.
that said, I believe Scott did overreact. we all know wiki vandals are jerkoffs. it's like overreacting to the douche in the left lane going 52 with his blinker on.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 30, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 30, 2012, 11:53:17 AM
Seems the reason was completely valid here.
no, not really. it's been a well-known limitation of Wikipedia since... approximately 30 seconds after it started. he's not stating anything new.
Quote from: NE2 on August 30, 2012, 01:05:13 AM
More relevantly, Death gives figures from both Wikipedia and AARoads - but Wikipedia cites AARoads and gets it wrong. Tee hee! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-95_(ME)#cite_ref-2
This thread is not the place for any of the above discussion, and neither is this forum for most of it. If anyone has any evidence as to which interstate has the lowest AADT, post it, if not, just don't post anything.
P.S.: Wikipedia is a starting point. Use the information from it and trace it back to reliable sources. It's not a complete junkyard - this is why they keep saying "citation needed." Without citations, you can't prove anything you read there. Fully cited, you can go back to the source material and verify. That said, I-95 in Maine has historically been the lowest 2-digit Interstate AADT, and I-180 IL has been the lowest 3-digit.
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I compiled a whole bunch of AADT data (most, if not all, from 2013):
Lowest AADT 2dis
1. I-A2 AK 237 @ mile 145
2. I-A1 AK 307 @ 256
3. I-A4 AK 1080 @ 104
4. I-95 ME 1682 @ 300
5. I-15 MT 1790 @ 396
6. I-89 VT 2000 @ 130
7. I-91 VT 2100 @ 177
8. I-90 WY 2198 @ 59
9. I-10 TX 2652 @ 364
10. I-25 WY 2718 @ 299
11. I-29 ND 2980 @ 217
12. I-15 ID 3000 @ 181
13. I-A3 AK 3021 @ 52
14. I-75 MI 3100 @ 375
15. I-94 MT 3170 @ 241
16. I-70 UT 3275 @ 104
17. I-90 MT 3420 @ 520
18. I-25 NM 3630 @ 453
19. I-94 ND 3868 @ 0
20. I-29 SD 4460 @ 227
21. I-80 NV 4600 @ 404
22. I-20 TX 4804 @ 38
23. I-81 NY 4998 @ 180
Lowest AADT 3dis
1. I-180 IL 2200 @ mile 10
2. I-185 SC 3400 @ 12
3. I-115 MT 3630 @ 0
4. I-229 MO 4228 @ 6
5. I-680 IA 5700 @ 19
6. I-172 IL 6300 @ 12
7. I-890 NY 7053 @ 8
8. I-781 NY 7297 @ 0
9. I-155 MO 7312 @ 0
10. I-335 KS 7320 @ 137
11. I-380 IA 770 @ 65
12. I-476 PA 7930 @ 124
13. I-129 NE 8250 @ 0
14. I-495 ME 8680 @ 0
15. I-795 NC 8900 @ 7
16. I-505 CA 8900 @ 30
17. I-155 IL 8900 @ 0
18. I-520 SC 9300 @ 23
19. I-790 NY 9324 @ 1
Chris
Welcome on board, Chris!
Oscar (fellow denizen of CHM/Travel Mapping and mob-rule.com)
Quote from: oscar on December 22, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
Welcome on board, Chris!
Oscar (fellow denizen of CHM/Travel Mapping and mob-rule.com)
Thanks. I'm a former MTR guy from way back (late 90's), so we've definitely spoken before. With new jobs and some other interests (international travel and whatnot taking some precedence), been tough to keep up on my roadgeeking. Happy to see everyone here keeping the hobby alive. Even having been away, I've still gotten my ring bound Rand McNally and a new yellow highlighter every year.
Chris
Just off the chart, there are some low ones in New York as well. I-81 is at 4852 between the Thousand Islands bridges and likely the 4th lowest 2DI in the northeast. For comparison, I-781 is a little under 6800.
Quote from: cl94 on December 22, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
Just off the chart, there are some low ones in New York as well. I-81 is at 4852 between the Thousand Islands bridges and likely the 4th lowest 2DI in the northeast. For comparison, I-781 is a little under 6800.
I knew I'd miss something. I'll edit the original post. For some reason I didn't have I-781 on my clinching spreadsheet and I got the wrong number for I-81 when digging through the .xml file from New York.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on December 22, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 22, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
Just off the chart, there are some low ones in New York as well. I-81 is at 4852 between the Thousand Islands bridges and likely the 4th lowest 2DI in the northeast. For comparison, I-781 is a little under 6800.
I knew I'd miss something. I'll edit the original post. For some reason I didn't have I-781 on my clinching spreadsheet and I got the wrong number for I-81 when digging through the .xml file from New York.
Chris
I-81 is a 2013 estimate. Don't remember the actual count.
Quote from: cl94 on December 22, 2015, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on December 22, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 22, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
Just off the chart, there are some low ones in New York as well. I-81 is at 4852 between the Thousand Islands bridges and likely the 4th lowest 2DI in the northeast. For comparison, I-781 is a little under 6800.
I knew I'd miss something. I'll edit the original post. For some reason I didn't have I-781 on my clinching spreadsheet and I got the wrong number for I-81 when digging through the .xml file from New York.
Chris
I-81 is a 2013 estimate. Don't remember the actual count.
From the data I was using, it shows up as 4,998.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on December 22, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I compiled a whole bunch of AADT data (most, if not all, from 2013):
Lowest AADT 2dis
4. I-95 ME 1682 @ 300
5. I-15 MT 1790 @ 396
6. I-89 VT 2000 @ 130
7. I-91 VT 2100 @ 177
8. I-90 WY 2198 @ 59
Lowest AADT 3dis
1. I-180 IL 2200 @ mile 10
Now that is stunning. Only five stretches of 2dis have an AADT lower than I-180.
Quote from: Brandon on December 22, 2015, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on December 22, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I compiled a whole bunch of AADT data (most, if not all, from 2013):
Lowest AADT 2dis
4. I-95 ME 1682 @ 300
5. I-15 MT 1790 @ 396
6. I-89 VT 2000 @ 130
7. I-91 VT 2100 @ 177
8. I-90 WY 2198 @ 59
Lowest AADT 3dis
1. I-180 IL 2200 @ mile 10
Now that is stunning. Only five stretches of 2dis have an AADT lower than I-180.
And at least to me, I think the fact that one of those isn't at an international boundary means that I-90 in WY is our winner of loneliest interstate.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on December 22, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
Lowest AADT 2dis
9. I-94 MT 2530 @ 229
19. I-94 ND 3868 @ 0
Interesting how there's such a difference in 21 miles of nothing in E MT. Wibaux, MT isn't exactly a booming metropolis that could account for 1300 AADT. 2013 was towards the end of the peak of the Bakken oil boom, so it'll be interesting to see the 2015 numbers now that the oilfield traffic has dropped quite a bit.
Quote from: FrCorySticha on December 22, 2015, 03:28:05 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on December 22, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
Lowest AADT 2dis
9. I-94 MT 2530 @ 229
19. I-94 ND 3868 @ 0
Interesting how there's such a difference in 21 miles of nothing in E MT. Wibaux, MT isn't exactly a booming metropolis that could account for 1300 AADT. 2013 was towards the end of the peak of the Bakken oil boom, so it'll be interesting to see the 2015 numbers now that the oilfield traffic has dropped quite a bit.
Well, looks like I had outdated data for Montana (or at least data that didn't match up with ND's data) so it is now corrected. 3170 @ MM 241 in MT now. ND was my most recent available data. Still a delta of ~700 cars though.
Chris
QuoteNow that is stunning. Only five stretches of 2dis have an AADT lower than I-180.
FWIW, 2 of those 5 are Canadian border crossings...
Quote from: froggie on December 22, 2015, 08:13:59 PM
QuoteNow that is stunning. Only five stretches of 2dis have an AADT lower than I-180.
FWIW, 2 of those 5 are Canadian border crossings...
4 are actually. (Houlton, ME; Sweetgrass, MT; Derby, VT; and Highgate Springs, VT)
Chris
The Houlton, ME example is near the border crossing, but not at the border crossing...I-95's traffic is lower west of that last interchange at US 2 than at the border crossing itself. I know that from MaineDOT GIS data I have.
The way you described the Montana example (using the milemarker) puts it south of the last interchange.
New Jersey
- No traffic on Sundays (due to local blue laws)
- Reflectors on highways (except the Turnpike)
- No trucks in left lane
- Lights on Wipers on law
- Keep right pass left law
- No cell phone while driving
Quote from: NJ on December 23, 2015, 10:22:54 AM
New Jersey
- No traffic on Sundays (due to local blue laws)
- Reflectors on highways (except the Turnpike)
- No trucks in left lane
- Lights on Wipers on law
- Keep right pass left law
- No cell phone while driving
Either this was supposed to be a response to another thread, or you don't know what AADT references.
Quote from: froggie on December 23, 2015, 07:44:46 AM
The Houlton, ME example is near the border crossing, but not at the border crossing...I-95's traffic is lower west of that last interchange at US 2 than at the border crossing itself. I know that from MaineDOT GIS data I have.
The way you described the Montana example (using the milemarker) puts it south of the last interchange.
Might have just been that way I accumulated the data. When I had a stretch of highway with the same AADT, I took the median mileage marker: i.e. if miles 240-260 all had the same traffic, I put down 250. I'm pretty sure (I don't have the data in front of me since I'm at work) that the I-15 data is consistent to the "end of the road".
Chris
Quote from: 3467 on August 28, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
I think the plant is open for I-180 in Illinois but traffic isnt . Most of the 2000 a day are using it as part of IL 29 from north Peoria to 80.
I mentioned the inder 10K routes in Illinois. Maybe everyone else can list their under 10K routes so we can finish Zmappers map
I-57 near Cairo drops under 10,000. FWIW, all the machinery in the Hennepin steel plant along I-180 was auctioned off early this year by Arcelor Mittal. New owner IPS Steel hopes to attract some other kind of business(es) there, with its ready made rail and highway access and ample electricity from the nearby Hennepin Ameren power plant, but no major tenants AFAIK. The newer Marquis Energy ethanol plant north of the steel mill has basically kept the NS rail service in business as the only major shipper on the line west of Streator.