Posted below is a snapshot of the current LA 1 along with US 84.
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And posted below is a snapshot of the old SR 20, with US 84.
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In case nothing is known about the pre-1955 Louisiana system, 98 state routes were designated by the legislature, and SR 9 was one of them. Routes were added in a numerical order as the years went along. US 84 was designated through Louisiana all at once, but the segment near US 165 is SR 474, designated three years before SR 798.
In a nutshell, US 84 has been moved three times. The first was from SR 6 to SR 474, supposedly to use a nicer and straighter roadway. The second was from SR 9 to SR 798, to give the road a more northeastern path. The third was after 1955, when US 84 was moved completely north to Grand Bayou, joined with LA 1. It came as a surprise, mostly as a general junction list for the old State Route 20.
The creepiest part was that the old State Route 9 has been completely removed since 1955. Just two parish roads, gravel at the most, separated. Comments, or any other instances of this happening?
US 67 has flipped back and forth with IL 267 between Alton and Jacksonville for the second time . This time for 4 laning so that should stop. It also changed locations north of Jacksonville.
US 34 became IL 164 between Monmouth and Galesburg when US 34 became a freeway.
US 34 replaced US 32 North of I-80. I dont think moving routes is uncommon.
During the 1980s, ODOT and City of Columbus rerouted US 33, between Bexley and DT Columbus, from Main St. to Livingston Ave.
While the maps showed the change, actual signage didn't show the change till 2003.
US 9 swapped with NJ 35 through Perth Amboy. Also, to the south, "NJ 4" was the coast road (original 9) and "NJ 35" followed US 9 on the inland route. In 1953, NJ 35 switched onto the coast road and 4 disappeared.
Quote from: Steve on August 31, 2012, 07:13:38 PM
US 9 swapped with NJ 35 through Perth Amboy. Also, to the south, "NJ 4" was the coast road (original 9) and "NJ 35" followed US 9 on the inland route. In 1953, NJ 35 switched onto the coast road and 4 disappeared.
The swap was to the north; only the pre-1927 NJ 4 was on the coast route south of South Amboy.
http://www.jimmyandsharonwilliams.com/njroads/1920s/images/1927_routes.gif
NJ 35 was presumably extended north from South Amboy when the new US 9 was built.
US 11 between Potsdam and Malone has moved a couple times. It originally ran on what is now NY 11B, then jogged north on St. Lawrence CR 55 to modern US 11. Then it was moved closer to the present route, following NY 11C. Then US 11 and NY 11C were swapped to their present routings.
You know you're in a rural area when you're dealing with spurs of US 11 (or US 9, for that matter).
Quote from: deanej on August 31, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
You know you're in a rural area when you're dealing with spurs of US 11 (or US 9, for that matter).
(https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/new_york001/ny-009a_sb_at_canal_st.jpg)
More on-topic, this was de facto (but not signed) US 9 until 1934.
In Kissimmee, FL, US 17-92 was routed through Downtown along Main Street, Broadway, and Emmet Street. It was then routed concurrently with US 192 between North Main Street and John Young Parkway and uses John Young southward to where Emmet comes in.
US 17 in Savanah used to use GA 25 through Garden City and then SC 171 across the Savanah River and current US 17 across the Talmage Bridge was US 17 Alternate.
In Florence, SC, US 301 went through the Downtown, but now bypasses it on another roadway east of the business area.
In Trenton, NJ US 206 NB between NJ 31 and US 1 Business used to use Brunswick Avenue, but now is aligned with its southern counterpart on Princeton Avenue after US 1 Alternate was decommissioned in Trenton.
US 70 between 1926-32 inititially followed what is now US 60 and US 180 from Clovis NM to US 66 at Holbrook AZ. In 1932, US 70 was rerouted down its current route to Alamogordo, but along what is now US 54 to El Paso. The modern route of US 70 to Globe, Phoenix, San Bernardino and Los Angeles was created in 1934-35.
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I'm not even going to start with the number of reroutes that US 41 has had in eastern Wisconsin over the years!
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Mike
Just took me by surprise, Louisiana doesn't usually reroute US highways at all.
US 60's original route between Richmond and Buena Vista, VA was completely different, following current US 360 west from Richmond to Burkeville, US 460 from Burkeville to Lynchburg, and US 501 from Lynchburg to Buena Vista. It was rerouted in 1933, using its current route through Midlothian and Amherst (between which is a whole lot of nothing).
What about US 70 in the Selma- Smithfield area of NC? US 70 used to follow what is now Business US 70 through Smithfield and now a new cut off road leads US 70 over to US 70 Alternate just east of I-95 in Selma (next to the infamous JRs) that truncated US 70 Alternate to there and US 70 taking over its former alternate through Downtown Selma.
Quote from: roadman65 on August 31, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
In Trenton, NJ US 206 NB between NJ 31 and US 1 Business used to use Brunswick Avenue, but now is aligned with its southern counterpart on Princeton Avenue after US 1 Alternate was decommissioned in Trenton.
Actually, no, it wasn't moved.
SB side (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206Z_-.pdf)
NB side (start on page 16) (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206__-.pdf)
U.S. 29 in Montgomery and Howard Counties in Maryland once followed present-day Md. 650 (New Hampshire Avenue) and Md. 108 (various names) passing through Ashton between the White Oak area of Silver Spring and present-day Columbia. It was re-routed to its current alignment (which has had significant widening and other upgrades) in the late 1950's.
Quote from: Steve on September 01, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 31, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
In Trenton, NJ US 206 NB between NJ 31 and US 1 Business used to use Brunswick Avenue, but now is aligned with its southern counterpart on Princeton Avenue after US 1 Alternate was decommissioned in Trenton.
Actually, no, it wasn't moved.
SB side (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206Z_-.pdf)
NB side (start on page 16) (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206__-.pdf)
Interesting, as signage indicates that both SB and NB use Princeton Avenue. Even toward the end of US 1 Alternate's existence it had more shields on NB Princeton Avenue (as you probably know both NB and SB US 1 Alternate were on Princeton spite that US 206 NB was on Brunswick) for US 206.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
Quote from: Steve on September 01, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 31, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
In Trenton, NJ US 206 NB between NJ 31 and US 1 Business used to use Brunswick Avenue, but now is aligned with its southern counterpart on Princeton Avenue after US 1 Alternate was decommissioned in Trenton.
Actually, no, it wasn't moved.
SB side (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206Z_-.pdf)
NB side (start on page 16) (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206__-.pdf)
Interesting, as signage indicates that both SB and NB use Princeton Avenue. Even toward the end of US 1 Alternate's existence it had more shields on NB Princeton Avenue (as you probably know both NB and SB US 1 Alternate were on Princeton spite that US 206 NB was on Brunswick) for US 206.
Yes - just keep in mind that Trenton maintains 206 (and other routes') signage within city limits. So they may want people to use Princeton Ave., or they may be mistaken, or they may have signed both roads as ways out of town.
Quote from: Steve on September 01, 2012, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
Quote from: Steve on September 01, 2012, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 31, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
In Trenton, NJ US 206 NB between NJ 31 and US 1 Business used to use Brunswick Avenue, but now is aligned with its southern counterpart on Princeton Avenue after US 1 Alternate was decommissioned in Trenton.
Actually, no, it wasn't moved.
SB side (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206Z_-.pdf)
NB side (start on page 16) (http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000206__-.pdf)
Interesting, as signage indicates that both SB and NB use Princeton Avenue. Even toward the end of US 1 Alternate's existence it had more shields on NB Princeton Avenue (as you probably know both NB and SB US 1 Alternate were on Princeton spite that US 206 NB was on Brunswick) for US 206.
Yes - just keep in mind that Trenton maintains 206 (and other routes') signage within city limits. So they may want people to use Princeton Ave., or they may be mistaken, or they may have signed both roads as ways out of town.
You know that is funny cause SB on US 206 they want you to use the Brunswick Circle to the old US 1 Alternate (Strawberry Street) and back over to Princeton Avenue. There is no sign that directs motorists to turn right where US 206 meets Princeton Avenue before the circle as that is what the SLD shows.
Mississippi is notorious for this, especially since they started the statewide 4-laning project back in the 80s. Nearly every sizable town has had the main U.S. and/or state route rerouted from downtown to around the edges of the town/city.
Quote from: brownpelican on October 01, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
Mississippi is notorious for this, especially since they started the statewide 4-laning project back in the 80s. Nearly every sizable town has had the main U.S. and/or state route rerouted from downtown to around the edges of the town/city.
Virginia has done a fair amount of this with some of its U.S. highways, including U.S. 17 around Saluda, U.S. 301 around Bowling Green, U.S. 15/17/29 around Warrenton and U.S. 15/Va. 7 around Leesburg.
PA is also notorious for changing alignments of routes. Example, PA 309 into its southern terminus with PA 611 used to use Ogandiz Avenue and now was moved over a few blocks to Cheltam Avenue. Then you have PA 611 that once terminated at City Hall where Broad Street became PA 291. Now PA 611 goes all the way to I-95 and PA 291 was truncated as well as re-aligned near the Philadelphia Airport from Essington Avenue to Beltram Avenue. The list goes on and on throughout PA as these are only a few of many. Whether state or US, they have done it all.