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Title: Loops of endings
Post by: NE2 on November 01, 2012, 03:15:43 PM
Just a silly diversion that has served as sheep for my counting:
US 15 ends at US 17 Alternate
US 17 Alternate ends at US 17
US 17 ends at US 522 (among others)
US 522 ends at US 15 (and US 11)
US 15 ends at US 17 Alternate...

There's also an order-two loop of US 64 and US 158. Any more?
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 01, 2012, 03:25:44 PM
CA-138 and CA-18 is a pretty perverse order-two example.

for an order-one example: in Norway, route 820 ends at itself.  these signs show all the roads as being "to 820", but it is actually route 820 the whole way around. 

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Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 01, 2012, 03:30:51 PM
ME-3 and ME-102.

I had been hoping for ME-3 ending at itself, but alas it is not quite that interesting.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: DandyDan on November 01, 2012, 04:09:05 PM
MN 27 and MN 28 end at each other, half a state apart from each other.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: roadman65 on November 01, 2012, 04:14:01 PM
PQ 132 in the Gaspe Pennisula.

I know that I-37 and US 181 both have terminuses at each other in Corpus Christi, TX.   Both routes serve the same purpose and US 181 loops back around to end again at I-37.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: theline on November 01, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
It should be mentioned that any road forming a complete loop, like I-465 in the Indy area, has no ends. Sure, there is a milepost zero, but that's an arbitrary spot rather than a real end.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: NE2 on November 01, 2012, 04:20:00 PM
OK, there are a bunch of 1 and 2. Any longer than 4?
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Alps on November 01, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
I-95 ends at US 1. US 1... okay
I-80 ends at I-95... nope
I-80 ends at US 101. US 101 ends at I-5. I-5 ends at...
US 101 ends at I-10. I-10 ends at I-95...
Dude, this is tough.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Kacie Jane on November 01, 2012, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
Dude, this is tough.

Yeah, I realized that pretty quickly too.  I started looking at a map of Washington, and kept getting stuck at I-5.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Takumi on November 01, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
US 360 ends at VA 360, VA 360 ends at US 360 :p
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:00:59 AM

I-5 ends at BC-99
BC-99 ends at BC-97
BC-97 ends at US-97
US-97 ends at I-5
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:05:36 AM
Boom, bitches

I-40 ends at I-15
I-15 ends at AB-4
AB-4 ends at AB-3
AB-3 ends at AB-41A
AB-41A ends at AB-41
AB-41 ends at AB-55
AB-55 ends at AB-2
AB-2 ends at US-89
US-89 ends at I-40 Business
I-40 Business ends at I-40
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:16:52 AM
I-10 ends at CA 1
CA 1 ends at US-101
US-101 ends at CA 60
CA 60 ends at I-10
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:25:09 AM
US-1 ends at NB-161
NB-161 ends at NB-120
NB-120 ends at QC-289
QC-289 ends at QC-132
QC-132 ends at NY-37
NY-37 ends at NY-30
NY-30 ends at NY-17
NY-17 ends at NJ-17
NJ-17 ends at NJ-7
NJ-7 ends at US-9 Truck
US-9 Truck ends at US-9
US-9 ends at US-13
US-13 ends at US-1

I'm still trying to find a ridiculously long one that uses Wyoming 230 ending at Wyoming 130, and then I find these insanely long loops and end up with loops within loops- seems to be working as a strategy
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
Here's a Washington one for you

US-2 ends at WA-529
WA-529 ends at WA-528
WA-528 ends at WA-9
WA-9 ends at WA-522
WA-522 ends at US-2
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:48:17 AM
US-40 ends at US-189
US-189 ends at US-26
US-26 ends at NE-61
NE-61 ends at KS-161
KS-161 ends at US-36
US-36 ends at US-34
US-34 ends at US-40
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
AB-3 ends at AB-41A
AB-41A ends at AB-41
AB-41 ends at AB-55
AB-55 ends at SK-55
SK-55 ends at SK-9
SK-9 ends at MB-283
MB-283 ends at MB-10
MB-10 ends at ND-3
ND-3 ends at SD-45
SD-45 ends at SD-44
SD-44 ends at I-29
I-29 ends at US-40
US-40 ends at US-189
US-189 ends at US-26
US-26 ends at NE-61
NE-61 ends at KS-161
KS-161 ends at US-36
US-36 ends at US-250
US-250 ends at US-6
US-6 ends at US-395
US-395 ends at BC-395
BC-395 ends at BC-3
BC-3 ends at AB-3

There seem to be certain "pinch" points that keep coming up- namely NY 17, QC 132, WA 529, US 190, and the Crowsnest

Alternatively

I-15 ends at AB-4
AB-4 ends at AB-3
AB-3 ends at AB-41A
AB-41A ends at AB-41
AB-41 ends at AB-55
AB-55 ends at SK-55
SK-55 ends at SK-9
SK-9 ends at MB-283
MB-283 ends at MB-10
MB-10 ends at ND-3
ND-3 ends at SD-45
SD-45 ends at SD-44
SD-44 ends at I-29
I-29 ends at US-40
US-40 ends at US-189
US-189 ends at I-15
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Takumi on November 02, 2012, 06:29:08 AM
I had been trying to think of some for Virginia that were more than 2, but I keep getting stuck at US 60.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2012, 09:51:02 AM
is there one involving only interstate highways?  I cannot think of one offhand. 

also, does US-101 really end at CA-60?  I thought it went just a bit further to end at I-5.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Scott5114 on November 02, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
KS-161

*twitches*
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2012, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
KS-161

*twitches*

what's so unusual about it?  looks to me, on the map, like it runs from US-36 near Bird City north to Nebraska, where it turns into NE-61.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 11:26:02 AM
I know it's K-161. I was using uniform abbreviations for clarity.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: kphoger on November 02, 2012, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2012, 11:18:51 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: corco on November 02, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
KS-161

*twitches*

what's so unusual about it?  looks to me, on the map, like it runs from US-36 near Bird City north to Nebraska, where it turns into NE-61.
Quote from: corco on November 02, 2012, 11:26:02 AM
I know it's K-161. I was using uniform abbreviations for clarity.

I would have done the same thing in a long list of highways.  FWIW, K-161 takes me back to high school track meets...and not in a pleasant way.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Alps on November 02, 2012, 07:25:20 PM
How about we just hand this thread over to corco.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: corco on November 02, 2012, 08:26:22 PM
I-10 ends at I-95
I-95 ends at NB-95
NB-95 ends at NB-103
NB-103 ends at NB-110
NB-110 ends at NB-2
NB-2 ends at QC-185
QC-185 ends at A-85
A-85 ends at A-20
A-20 ends at QC-132
QC-132 ends at NY-37
NY-37 ends at US-11
US-11 ends at US-90
US-90 ends at I-10

Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: pianocello on November 02, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2012, 09:51:02 AM
is there one involving only interstate highways?  I cannot think of one offhand. 

Probably not, since (almost?) every interstate endpoint will eventually get you to I-5, I-95, a US or state highway, an infinite loop (69 ending at 465), or an international border.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Takumi on November 03, 2012, 08:27:13 AM
The only interstate one I can think of is a two: I-64 ends at I-664, I-664 ends at I-64.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: NE2 on November 03, 2012, 08:38:03 AM
The only Interstates I came up with are beltways (64-664, 255-270, 494-694, etc.). As well as 95-295 for now.
BUT there will be 76-295-195-276 in the future.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Big John on November 03, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
Quote from: Takumi on November 03, 2012, 08:27:13 AM
The only interstate one I can think of is a two: I-64 ends at I-664, I-664 ends at I-64.
Once the US 41 interstate conversion is complete, it is likely that the new interstate (probably I-41) and I-43 will end each other by Green Bay.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Alps on November 03, 2012, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: pianocello on November 02, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2012, 09:51:02 AM
is there one involving only interstate highways?  I cannot think of one offhand. 

Probably not, since (almost?) every interstate endpoint will eventually get you to I-5, I-95, a US or state highway, an infinite loop (69 ending at 465), or an international border.
I-10 and I-90 are other "problems" that end the fun prematurely.

I-12 I-59 I-24 I-57 I-55... sooooo close but it goes past I-12 down to 10. That's the best I can do with 2di's.
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: mgk920 on November 03, 2012, 08:49:30 PM
US 41 ends a lot of the 'fun' here in Wisconsin, too.

:rolleyes:

Mike
Title: Re: Loops of endings
Post by: Michael on November 05, 2012, 08:07:54 PM
Three involving NY 89 (technically, they fall apart at NY 89/NY 104, but I figured I'd post them anyway):

1:

2 (variation of #1):

3:
      *Before NY 34 was extended to NY 104, this step would be NY 370 to NY 104