the CA-56 freeway starts off at a freeway (I-5) with some inexplicable traffic lights along the connections, and ends at a freeway (I-15) with some inexplicable traffic lights along the connections.
I-285.
I-37
VT 26
Quote from: NE2 on November 01, 2012, 03:51:36 PM
I-285.
It is a complete loop around Atlanta, thus no ends.
US 62 has both ends with an international bridge nearby.
the old US-6 (pre-1964) had, at each terminus, the road going the complete opposite of the route's overall direction.
I-5
VA 13. Not much of anything on either end, or between for that matter. As a bonus, it ends at the same route both times.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on November 01, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
I-5
Not really. San Diego is a pretty big city, with a big navy base, colleges, tourism year-round. Blaine is a sleepy little town that doesn't have any of those things. Also the San Ysidro border crossing gets about 4 x the traffic as Blaine.
Quote from: kkt on November 01, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on November 01, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
I-5
Not really. San Diego is a pretty big city, with a big navy base, colleges, tourism year-round. Blaine is a sleepy little town that doesn't have any of those things. Also the San Ysidro border crossing gets about 4 x the traffic as Blaine.
No route that long is going to have exactly the same character, but you have an interstate adjacent to the ocean, going directly into a major international crossing (not all interstates at the border do this) on both ends. "Exactly" is a pretty high hurdle.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on November 01, 2012, 06:55:03 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 01, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on November 01, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
I-5
Not really. San Diego is a pretty big city, with a big navy base, colleges, tourism year-round. Blaine is a sleepy little town that doesn't have any of those things. Also the San Ysidro border crossing gets about 4 x the traffic as Blaine.
No route that long is going to have exactly the same character, but you have an interstate adjacent to the ocean, going directly into a major international crossing (not all interstates at the border do this) on both ends. "Exactly" is a pretty high hurdle.
As much as I see your point, I think kkt is clearly right here. The two ends of I-5 are similar -- both being relatively major border crossings -- but I think their
character is certainly one place where they are not. (While I'd be hesitant to call Blaine "sleepy", to say it's in any way similar to San Diego would be laughable.)
Also, Boundary Bay and the Strait of Georgia do not equal the ocean. I-5 is over 100 miles from the Pacific Ocean at its northern end, far from adjacent.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on November 01, 2012, 06:55:03 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 01, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on November 01, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
I-5
Not really. San Diego is a pretty big city, with a big navy base, colleges, tourism year-round. Blaine is a sleepy little town that doesn't have any of those things. Also the San Ysidro border crossing gets about 4 x the traffic as Blaine.
No route that long is going to have exactly the same character, but you have an interstate adjacent to the ocean, going directly into a major international crossing (not all interstates at the border do this) on both ends. "Exactly" is a pretty high hurdle.
I-5 is the only x5 interstate to touch both Mexican and Canadian borders.
I-238. :spin:
I-99.
Both ends are not at other interstates, but very close to them.
I suppose NJ 70 could qualify. To the west it ends in Cherry Hill as a divided highway with jughandle intersections. To the east, it ends in Point Pleasant the exact same way.
both ends of I-405 in California end at multilane high-speed merges with I-5. they are each at such an acute angle with I-5 that if one is paralleling the ending road on I-5 (northbound in Sylmar, southbound in Irvine), they receive no signage whatsoever for I-405 (not even a "to I-405, use [X surface street]") and if one is unfamiliar with the freeways, they would have no idea what road just merged in.
furthermore, both ends feature truck and regular ramps for the split.
NJ:
US 1: Both ends in NJ are a freeway bridge in a city that requires you to pay a toll.
NJ 3: While the entire length is six lanes, both ends are four lanes at a divided US highway that's not a freeway.
NJ 7, western half: Both ends are at borders and not at routes (Essex/Passaic Co. line, Belleville/Newark line)
NJ 13: Self-explanatory
NJ 18: For now, both ends are 4-lane freeways with planned extensions.
NJ 23: Although much of the highway is divided, both ends are undivided and at a county route, not a state route or better.
NJ 36: Both ends are four-lane divided at a set of elongated Parkway ramps. (Much of the route is undivided.) Once upon a time, both sets of Parkway ramps had internal numbers, but 444R was dropped (444S remains).
NJ 44: Both ends are in a suburban town on the side of US 130 while 130 itself is up on a freeway (44 is old 130).
NJ 56: Both ends are at 2-digit state highways where the road continues but not as 56.
NJ 62: Both ends turn from four lanes (on 62) into two lanes on Union Blvd., numbered as the same county route. Both ends are defined at the far edges of interchanges with divided highways below. Both ends are in the same town, for that matter.
NJ 64: Self-explanatory
NJ 66: Both ends are at strange-shaped traffic circles with 2-digit odd-numbered highways beginning with "3".
NJ 70: Both ends flow seamlessly into multi-lane divided highways beginning with "3" in a suburban milieu.
NJ 77: Both ends are at a odd-numbered 4x route in a sizable South Jersey town that's not the county seat.
NJ 81: Both ends are interchanges with a four-roadway freeway and ramps for local access on the south side of Newark Airport. Both ends have "BEGIN" and "END" 81 signs and there are no other 81 reassurances between them.
NJ 83: Both ends are rural Shore intersections with major through roads. No one's heard of Dennis. I thought I'd just throw that last one in there.
NJ 92: Both ends don't exist, but almost did. (I've had 3 beers since I started this post. Celebrating the return of electricity.)
NJ 133: Until the new interchange opens, both ends have been at signalized intersections requiring jughandles from the cross street to make a left turn, but with the ability to make a direct left turn from 133. Except for both ends, 133 is a freeway. (Note: construction at the east end/33 has since resulted in a direct left turn, as part of the eventual SPUI to be constructed there. But the final configuration won't open until probably 2014.)
NJ 152: Both ends are not at a state highway. At both ends, the road continues as a town street.
NJ 156: Self-explanatory
NJ 158, when it existed: Both ends were at city streets; 158 never intersected a state highway. (It was a converted railroad bridge from Newark to Harrison.)
NJ 162: Both ends are on the same county route, and include a sharp-angled turnoff for the old road that crossed the old pre-162 bridge at that location.
NJ 167, former definition: When it still existed in two pieces or in its original definition, NJ 167 began at two-lane US 9 on both ends and dead-ended in the middle; more recently, the southern half was decommissioned, so this no longer counts.
NJ 169, when it existed: Both ends were at half-interchanges with NJ 440 that were planned to be full interchanges if 440 had been completed as intended.
NJ 195: Both ends turn into a four-lane divided state highway at a modified cloverleaf interchange. (NJ 29 at the west end temporarily has more lanes, but those can be considered auxiliary.)
NJ 208: Both ends are 2-lane/2-lane splits with a divided highway with no median breaks. Both ends have local access within 1/4 mile.
NJ 324: Both ends are dead-ends. (Although they're somewhat different, I think that's pretty unique for a state highway.)
NJ 347: Self-explanatory
Special mention: CR 506: Both ends are a wye with a state highway (159 and 7). (Admittedly, it's already multiplexed with 7 at the east end, but it's still a wye split.)
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
NJ 92: Both ends don't exist, but almost did. (I've had 3 beers since I started this post. Celebrating the return of electricity.)
There's been a lot of funny stuff on this board, but outside of the Alanland thread, this is the best I've seen recently. Cheers, my good man.
QuoteNJ 167, former definition: When it still existed in two pieces or in its original definition, NJ 167 began at two-lane US 9 on both ends and dead-ended in the middle; more recently, the southern half was decommissioned, so this no longer counts.
Hold on, when was NJ 167 south decommissioned? I haven't heard anything.
I-80
I-805
Quote from: Roadgeek Adam on November 01, 2012, 11:57:00 PM
QuoteNJ 167, former definition: When it still existed in two pieces or in its original definition, NJ 167 began at two-lane US 9 on both ends and dead-ended in the middle; more recently, the southern half was decommissioned, so this no longer counts.
Hold on, when was NJ 167 south decommissioned? I haven't heard anything.
In that case, it still counts.
FL 50 at both ends are with a US Highway that is the last major N-S highway before a large body of water.
FL 70 is the same.
US 92 ends on both sides with state route designations. In fact its only other connection to the US Route system is via junctions.
FL 60 on both ends are near large bodies of water.
FL 80 on both ends are in popular Florida cities: Fort Myers and Palm Beach
FL 436 ends with interchanges on both sides.
FL 414 has the same only with interchanges on both sides modified from its original design.
FL 527 continues as other routes at either end.
FL 482 continues also as other county roads cause FL 528 is part of the OOCEA that is a county agency.
FL 408 used to end at FL 50 at both ends, but now its west end is at the FL Turnpike.
FL 535 ends at popular tourist areas on both sides: US 192 Resort Area and Lake Buena Vista. There are hotels at each terminus.
FL 417 (for now) ends at I-4 at each end.
FL 415 ends at two routes starting in the digit "4."
FL 46 ends at US Routes.
I-405 Oregon's termini end with left exits to I-5 South. Both ends of western I-84 feature trumpet interchanges (although a bit wonky at the I-80 end).
Quote from: national highway 1 on November 01, 2012, 08:37:22 PM
I-5 is the only x5 interstate to touch both Mexican and Canadian borders.
We'd better get busy and extend I-25 towards Regina, then!
(Traffic counts? We ain't got no traffic counts! We don't need no traffic counts! I don't have to show you any stinking traffic counts!)
Quote from: Kacie Jane on November 01, 2012, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
NJ 92: Both ends don't exist, but almost did. (I've had 3 beers since I started this post. Celebrating the return of electricity.)
There's been a lot of funny stuff on this board, but outside of the Alanland thread, this is the best I've seen recently. Cheers, my good man.
I laughed almost as much at these:
QuoteNJ 66: Both ends are at strange-shaped traffic circles with 2-digit odd-numbered highways beginning with "3".
NJ 70: Both ends flow seamlessly into multi-lane divided highways beginning with "3" in a suburban milieu.
NJ 77: Both ends are at a odd-numbered 4x route in a sizable South Jersey town that's not the county seat.
You must have nothing to do, man....
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2012, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on November 01, 2012, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
NJ 92: Both ends don't exist, but almost did. (I've had 3 beers since I started this post. Celebrating the return of electricity.)
There's been a lot of funny stuff on this board, but outside of the Alanland thread, this is the best I've seen recently. Cheers, my good man.
I laughed almost as much at these:
QuoteNJ 66: Both ends are at strange-shaped traffic circles with 2-digit odd-numbered highways beginning with "3".
NJ 70: Both ends flow seamlessly into multi-lane divided highways beginning with "3" in a suburban milieu.
NJ 77: Both ends are at a odd-numbered 4x route in a sizable South Jersey town that's not the county seat.
You must have nothing to do, man....
Drinking is a thing to do.
IA 141's west end is at an interchange with I-29, exit 127. Its east end is at an interchange with I-80... exit 127.
WA LOOP 100. This is cheating, though, because it only has 1 end. But they are exactly the same character.
Quote from: xonhulu on November 02, 2012, 09:45:50 PM
WA LOOP 100. This is cheating, though, because it only has 1 end. But they are exactly the same character.
I know how a route can have no ends (continuous loop) or two ends. Or even three or more ends. But one end? That does, indeed, strike me as cheating. Does 100 follow a Möbius strip?
I agree with what Steve is hinting at... that WA 100 does in fact have two ends. It's just that one of those ends is at itself, and is only 0.06 miles away from the other, despite having traveled 4.68 miles.
One end would be a sort of lasso shape, where the circular part is one-way.
U.S. 101 both starts and ends at an interchange with I-5...but for much of its length (in northern California, and nearly all of Oregon and Washington) is a narrow, winding two lane road.
Quote from: Steve on November 01, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
NJ 83: Both ends are rural Shore intersections with major through roads. No one's heard of Dennis. I thought I'd just throw that last one in there.
The one end is off of 9, if I remember right, off of the stretch of 9 that is between exits 13 and 17 on the Parkway. Shortly after on 9 north is the driving range with the overpriced bucket of balls. :) I don't remember if the mainland area there is Dennis, though, or if that is further SW toward the Delaware bay. All of this near one of my favorite places to be - Sea Isle City
Practically every state highway in Nevada (outside of Las Vegas or Reno/Sparks) starts as a rural two-lane road and ends as a rural two-lane road...